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Running around Nona while waiting for Alecto and....John was 100% responsible for the trillionaires grabbing his funding and leaving Earth. He leaves it in pieces so it's not obvious, but yeah, it's his fault.
Look at the sequence of events. The cryonics project was a secret. Most of the planet knew it was bad, but they didn't know it was THAT bad, hence why some of the most important work was being done in a small town in New Zealand. The plan is to get everything lined up so that by the time they have to break the news that, yeah, we're gonna have to evacuate the Earth, they'd have a solution ready to go. Sure, there would inevitably be some panic, but nothing as bad as revealing it without the cryonics figured out and ships ready to go.
Then John decides to livestream himself playing with cadavers, and also reveals that the Earth is doomed and they don't have the technology to evacuate everyone yet. The economy is tanked. Country turns on country. A major world leader has to be puppeted by John because his death would destroy the country. The whole planet is directly thrown into crisis mode, and the trillionaires use the chaos to snap up all the funding and research for their "leave everyone else to die" plan. And since cryonics research has been halted because the main guy in charge is now using the lab as a cult compound instead, they're able to convince people this is the only viable option.
The only reason the trillionaires knew they had to evacuate, and there's a spaceship project they can take over to save themselves, is because John told them about it.
I suspect it might have been a little more complicated than that.
"Then another year abroad, where he got the grant and met the men who would make things happen". That's a very vague phrasing, and seems to suggest a funding situation slightly more complicated than some kind of governmental or NGO grant. Is he being funded by some of the trillionnaires? (Or do these mysterious men have anything to do with the fact that we later learn his cryo cans were being made in a facility owned by a multinational intelligence alliance?)
John talks about "oversight execs" in relation to C—'s hiring, but otherwise only refers to those funding his project as "they": "They mocked it up to look like a freezing works", "they bitched about the timeline, and they bitched about the money", and then, the next paragraph "they were constructing the other ships", "we even lent them G—". It's not entirely clear who "they" are, or whether all of them are referring to the same group. But it's possible that the ships being constructed here, which are the ones that would later be fitted with FTL engines, were being constructed as part of another project funded by the same people as the cryo lab - who may well have included some trillionnaires, and who certainly seem to have been avoiding putting all of their eggs in one basket right from the beginning.
And that's all John 20:8. We don't see John's powers until the next chapter, John 5:20 - it seems like the powers are bestowed on him at least in part as a response to his distress at the cancellation of the cryo project.
It's strongly implied that the funders cut the cryo lab specifically to fund an FTL project instead: "official paperwork claimed they’d decided to pull back and think things through again, but he’d [A-] always known they’d reinvested in something else".
What's not clear is whether it's John that leaks the fact that these kinds of projects are underway. He just says "when the leak happened" (the one that crashes the global economy!), and it's tempting to assume he's glossing over his own actions there. But after the cow dome incident, several chapters later, John says "I wanted to break my NDAs. I wanted to let them know about the cryo plans and how we got shut down", which suggests he previously hadn't broken his NDAs. (This could be a what order did the bombs go off in Melbourne situation, of course...).
John certainly doesn't always help his own case, but by the time he was setting up a YouTube channel for his misappropriated medical cadavers, the ships were already being built and the global panic had already set in.
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rereading nona the ninth and this is what john chapters look like to me

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Crown prince Kiriona Gaia, saddest girl in the world
John Gaius circa the Mithraeum:
the pain of seeing nona be raised by cam, pal, and pyrrha in a gentle, loving way and then having it contrasted by kiriona- who glibly says that her dad made her skin impenetrable and left speed holes in her body. the whiplash of spending a good portion of the book wondering if nona could maybe be gideon and/or harrow if given a proper warm upbringing, to then be faced with kiriona at her lowest, most bitter and (in her eyes) unloved self!!!!
tired of cannibalism as a metaphor for love or sex. can we get into cannibalism as a metaphor for colonization.
1. Europeans using Egyptian mummies as medicine
2. The Delectable Negro: Human Consumption and Homoeroticism Within US Slave Culture by Vincent Woodard
3. "Abolitionists turned the tables on Europeans by accusing them of being cannibals when they ate sugar tainted with the flesh and blood of slaves."
4. Zombies (which I would class as cannibals, since they were human and need to eat humans to live) have a root in Haitian folklore and represented enslavement.
adding that, if you can find it, cannibal culture by deborah root is about exactly this. the way the white western world is a hungry, destructive force that cannibalizes non-white cultures and creates wealth and status through the cannibal colonization of those cultures.
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i almost think there's an essay in bell hooks' black looks about this too? yes! just checked, there's an essay called "eating the other"
she's so awful sexy and pathetic i hope she eats me next

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It was the first time you realized God could not understand you.
first few months of alectopause: damn can't wait until atn comes out
2023 alectopause: you know it's ok we can wait. i got some fics to write
2024 alectopause: here is 30,000 words on how john's characterization as emperor and lyctorhood interplays with colonialism, imperialism, sexual assault, and misogyny, featuring a full bibliography, a reading list, and peer reviewed by three mutuals
2025 alectopause: gideon would not fucking say that
2026 alectopause: what is everyone's blood pressure headcanons for the characters. i think harrow is orthostatic and gets a regular 90/50
you can really tell who in this fandom was a homestuck and who wasn't by how they're handling things
Griddlehark modern au shenanigans ✨ I was so obsessed with this drawing from Andy that I just had to make fanart of it…!!!
quick question
what the fuck was john, necromantically speaking
i don’t mean after the genocide/resurrection thing. we have plenty of theories about what he is then (i personally favor the theory that he’s a new and exciting kind of resurrection beast).
BUT. before that, but after he gains necromancy, he should just be a normal necromancer, right? but instead there’s a bunch a weird shit:
1. he isn’t frail? like necromancers are canonically pretty physically weak and sickly. but john mentions no illnesses or new limitations (there’s an argument to be had about his mental state, but that can easily be attributed to the Everything Burning Down)
2. doesn’t eat?? PLEASE correct me if i’m wrong, but i believe that john stops eating food while back on earth and he’s fine (for a given definition of the word). afaik, necromancers still need to eat, right? canaan house served kind of shitty meals that the necromancers still ate. why would they eat plain leaves if they didn’t have to? sooooo why could john starve himself without actually starving?
3. is more powerful that most necromancers??? at some point, john drops 100 people in a kilometer radius, and he can pinpoint the ones with guns. if adepts can do that, why aren’t the battles against boe and the rest being won much faster? if that level of power is - we’ll say slightly above average, for the sake of argument, then the normal necromancers are really not up to par.
the thing is, we know necromancy has a genetic component to it. it is possible to alter dna to make an extra strong necromancer (hi, harrow). john’s eyes turned gold when his necromancy kicked in and his daughter inherited them, as well as a portion of his unkillability, indicating they were at least partly genetic traits.
so. how exactly was john the necromancer made? and why are post-resurrection necromancers so different?
Ok, as far as I understand it (so the details could be wrong), regular necromancers can kind of get "in tune" with the thanergy around them and use it. In general they work as their own battery, but there are specific ways (siphoning, cannibalism) to get energy out of others, and that lets them do more or at a greater scale.
A soul is the best battery there is, and having total access to one is what makes Lyctors so much more powerful than a regular necromancer and means the toll for their "magic" does not go to their bodies. (I'll also like to add that Lyctor's apparent lack of "necromantic recoil" could be because they just heal super fast.)
In John's case, he was connected to a planet's soul, which would be the greatest source of energy we have seen until now, so his limit is extremely high (but as far as we have seen, it does exist, he can't just do whatever he wants), and his regeneration is also almost limitless.
He does seem to have an adverse effect (or to have had it before killing the planet) since Harrow lumps him with Augustine and Mercy as having a more typical necromantic look in comparison with Gideon I, but that could also be because he was being influenced by a non-human soul to have weird habits that were detrimental to his health (like how Nona acts). As for why that did not kill him, my best bet is that being connected to the Earth's energy let him keep his body functioning via magic.
Also, necromancy is pretty much not genetic but does seem to be soul-based (it is said that there is no biological difference between necromancers and non-necromancers except for greater activity from vestigial organs), but being conceived in the wake of a mass death (so, a place supercharged with thanergy) would seem to be able to skyrocket the chances of a soul being "in tune" with thanergy and therefore the baby being a necromancer. Gideon does not only have John/Alecto's golden eyes but also their regenerative abilities (or at least regeneration on par with a Lyctor), so she is probably (somehow) also connected to the Earth's soul, and that is how she gets both of those things.
Long story short, I would say that John is so different from every other necromancer because they are specifically "in tune" with thanergy while he is like...not exclusively a necromancer? If that makes sense? Or at least he had the ability to control more kinds of "energies" before killing the solar system (and probably after too since he does talk of controlling time as a real thing he could achieve via magic).
Yes - I think the key thing is that "a necromancer" is something created by John for his resurrected world. John himself uses what might be called necromancy, but that's only an element of a broader set of powers.
What John is, pre-res, is actually pretty horrifying.
He's a regular human being, and something about him catches the attention of a vast and ancient entity entirely beyond human comprehension and communication. It picks up in some way that he is trying to help it, even though he does not understand that the thing he is trying to help isn't just a biosphere but a conscious, ensouled entity, albeit on a scale so vastly more complex than a human that they are scarcely comparable. It wants to help him to help it. They will both live to regret it.
This entity modifies him on a genetic level without his knowledge or consent - and we still don't know the extent of that. What can Gideon's abilities tell us about John pre-res, and how might they be relevant in ATN?
It's hard to say at what stage John not sleeping or eating went from a symptom of his mania to something preternatural. Maybe it was always both. He's certainly latterly manually tweaking biochemical processes to skip sleep and meals. What's not entirely clear is whether he's describing a situation where there's something else sustaining him, or if it's more akin to Harrow's experience on the Mithraeum and he is running on reserves he can't spare. Or whether the framework laid onto him by an entity so different to him has complicated these things for him - after all, even experiencing human bodily needs doesn't make Nona like eating.
Pre-res, he's operating at a level beyond the necromancers he created, but within a recognisable framework of energy exchange. : he kills those 100 people using the thanergy from five accidental deaths, and in GTN Harrow says "Give me a single death and I can go for ten minutes". But we don't know much of the broader mechanics of his abilities - just the aspects that he comes to identify as 'necromancy'.
John has been Changed and has no frame of reference for how or why. But he is working closely with cadavers, and much of his work will have involved the liminality of life and dormancy and death. So that's where his terrifying new senses take him. To the cadavers, to the workings of bodies, to what makes someone alive or not. But we know he had other abilities, and that he was aware of them: C- talks about the idea of him stabilising a glacier or manipulating the atmosphere. Later, we see him commanding water and earth.
He was given powers that could have reversed global warming. But he did not understand what was happening to him, rapidly deteriorated physically and mentally under the strain of how he was changed, and the entity that we meet as the King Undying does not possess a full human soul - his body contains some of his original soul and some of the earth's, and we know that the interactions between bodies and souls are complicated. Actually containing some of the entity that originally modified his body may account for the emperor seeming somewhat more stable (metaphysically, at least...) than the man he was latterly (and also, as you point out, makes the stoma recognise him as a Resurrection Beast).
okay i like this explanation best! i’ve seen it argued that john’s powers are more thalergy-aligned than thanergy and i’ve always liked that theory. it definitely makes more sense for the Earth/alecto/wtv to have granted him power over life that also bled over into death territory, in terms of motive (as much as we can ascribe it motive).
it’s also just way more juicy for john. like he is so obsessed with getting it right and fixing it all, but it’s not just because of his literal god complex. he was made to fix it all, and he failed. oooh that’s just so interesting.
i am very curious about the hereditary mechanisms of necromancy. @just-a-river i see your point about thanergy blooms creating necromancers, and i agree that it definitely enhances them. but i could have sworn that harrow mentions her parents manipulating chromosomes (did i make this up somehow?). and when john gives harrow replenishments for her house, he predicts a percentage of them to be necromancers. did he expose some of them to a battlefield and not the rest? on the other hand, this implies gideon’s god-genes kicked in when her nursery-mates were killed, which is very cool. idk i am very confused, which is par for the course lol.
(Sorry to butt in, @just-a-river - do add anything I've missed here!)
The thing with how necromancy works, and indeed, what's going on with House fertility in general, is a bit murky.
What we do know:
There is something specific about the thanergetic Dominicus system that makes it possible for necromancers to be born: "necromancers do not reproduce successfully outside the system" [GTN glossary] The planets of the Dominicus system are "thanergetic" - they produce death energy in the way a normal planet produces life energy, as opposed to flipped shepherd worlds which are merely "thanergy planets", dying slowly. Hence Judith (or her pregnant mother - it's unclear) wrapped in grave dirt while stranded interstellar, and also presumably why Gideon - conceived, gestated, and born away from the thanergetic soil of the system - is not a necromancer.
M Bias also has a long digression about this in the Sermon: "'One flesh' is the underpinning of our whole Empire. We are born necromancers, or we are not; yet we are one. The non-necromancer will still have necromantic children. The necromancer will have parents who lacked the aptitude. The possibility is within us. We live under the thanergetic light of Dominicus, are born, grow, and die in his thanergetic Houses; the Resurrection made us so. We are fundamentally different to those born on thalergy planets outside the empire" (it rather goes on, including the whole wrapping your...bump?...baby?...in grave dirt thing, and a whole kind of imago dei-esque bit).
There is some kind of intersection of exposure to thanergy and necromantic potential: Harrow's conception is obviously an extreme example of that, but Silas' comment that the twins' parents intervening to save Ianthe in utero was "a wasted opportunity, I'd think" seems to suggest there would have been some theoretical benefit to extra thanergy exposure at birth.
Harrow seems to describe two separate processes in her parents' terrible no good very bad date night: "My mother used the resultant power to modify her ovum on a chromosomal level, so thanergy ignition wouldn't compromise the embryo. She did this so I would be a necromancer" (HTN ch 14). The only other reference to chromosomes we get in TLT is Judith's description of the Fifth's "genetic failure of their chromosomes", and given how strongly Abigail is figured against Pelleamena in TLT, I wonder if we're meant to read this as Harrow's parents resolving some kind of genetic issue that was impacting their ability to carry to term, as well as making the embryo able to withstand an abnormally high thanergy exposure at conception?
"Only a third will display necromantic aptitude, and the same for their next generation" (HTN ch 2) is such an intriguing statement. These are "the ancient dead" - people who were resurrected at the same time as the ancestors of the Housers. Given the extent to which 'necromancy should never have existed and should be destoryed' is a running theme in the series, I'm assuming that necromancers as a thing are something that John intentionally caused to happen as part of the resurrection. If so, we don't know what John did to cause that, but he could well be quoting historical data here - he knows that this is the rate necromancy emerges in those first few generations, before...rising to a slightly higher rate ("only")?
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My deepest fantasy is to be mercymorn's stupid underling who she treats like I'm useless but due to my many years in customer service and my blatant autistic tendencies I pretend I'm too oblivious to notice until she has to admit her days are much easier when I'm working versus admiral sarpedon and gradually my combination of feigned innocence, ability to empathize without technically agreeing to anything, genuine human emotion peeking out from underneath several tantalizing layers of deflection, and let's be real my status as a nonthreatening gay friend remind her of the past she's left behind and she finally imprints on me to the point where she's left broken when I leave for $2 more per hour at a different job and has to confront who she truly is in a way she hasn't in 10 thousand years
You all want to fuck her I want to change her irrevocably