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North West Infidels: How Low Can They Get?
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Only a ginger can call another âgingerâ
 Woe is us, for this evil man Joshua Bonehill-Paine has been visited upon us all! Woe is us! Actually, maybe not. Joshua Bonehill-Paine to put it bluntly is a nobody: a nothing, a zero and correctly called a moronic troll. Practically anything you read about him is what a vile, evil, repulsive, individual he is.Well yes, he is. But heâs not scary, in fact not a bit of it, heâs really pathetic. He gets bested by barmaids in fights and appears to exist in a drunken stupor. Because heâs such an absolute loser, naturally heâs overjoyed with allthe attention heâs having lavished upon him and is in fact proud to be called aracist and a Nazi, so weâre not going to attack him on that and play his game.
 We could go into detail about how his ridiculous plans for running the country are the sort of 3rd rate GCSE material that would embarrass a drunken village idiot. But thatâs already been done by other people.
No, instead what we shall do is compile a big list of what a total imbecile he is, how his life has been a total failure and how he has tried to compensate for his lack of any real achievement by drinking heavily, being thuggish, courting notoriety, inventing an online fantasy version of himself and publicly humiliating himself. Sorry if we play fast and loose here and it apparently lacks the seriousness that other blogs have dedicated to Bonehill, but in all fairness why should we do him the favour of showing him any respect?
His first accomplishment in life was being born, which he was on 7th December 1992 in Yeovil Maternity Hospital, to Mark Bonehill and Caroline Paine. He would also have you believe that being born into white skin is an accomplishment in life. It is not, it's an accident of birth. Equally we don't count outwitting the EDL as an accomplishment, any more than drawing breath is. After that it was all downhill.Â
 Joshua Redhill, the closet gingerÂ
Yes, Bonehill has indeed expressed his dislike of red haired people: he is a âgingeristâ. Â
Take this stupid, fake Daily Bale story about a ban on gingerbread men.
 But wait! Whatâs this?
 BonehillGNRfan01: on September 22, 2008, 11:29:49 AM               Hair: Reddish blondie kinda colour
JLR: why not just say ginger? I hate when ginger people try to make up an new colour for their hair, you're ginger, deal with it.
BonehillGNRfan01: well its kinda funny, in the sun it is blonde red, and in the dark it is ginger, And im proud of it cause we all know a famous ginger dont we??? Â
 BonehillGNRfan01: on November 18, 2008                        people Rip the piss out ta me havuing red hair all the time, but then i think to myself well look at people like Axl Rose hes got red hair so therefore why the fuck should i get pissed over people making comments over my hair, fuck everybodys opions, just be yourself thats all that matters, every body is unique in there oqn ways in this world. yes you get ur Beautifull people etc, but then you get your real people the people who are themselves and are proud for who they are. one time back a few years ago i got really pissed off with the fact people were ripping the piss out ta me, so i got aggresive with these [pople and hurt them, but it landed me in a whole lotta shit etc,. So just be yourself and be proud!
 Yes indeed, Bonehill is red-haired himself!
 So although he created an insulting depiction of a ginger-haired man, he is also ginger.
 But these days the older Bonehill no longer uses the mantra âjust be yourself and be proudâ, no he dyes his ginger locks black or shaves them short so that no-one can tell. He actually calls people âgingerâ as an insult. For instance, see what he called Musical Becki when she accidentally angered him.
 After some time, and some more debate on Twitter, Joshua turned on me after a comment I made. Having uploaded an interview on his blog, he told us (the readers) about his education history. Googling the schools he provided, people noted that he had attended a private school, and interestingly, a school for those with conditions such as Autism and Aspergerâs. Commenting on this during a debate with him, he lost his cool and went into an abusive rage against me. He began by calling me things such as âshapelessâ and âgingerâ.
Musical Becki, Joshua Bonehill, 1st February 2015
 So Joshua âGingerâ Bonehill attacks other people for being ginger!
 Joshua Brainhell-Paine: does he have mental disabilities?
 Incidentally the Merry Hay Academy was the name of the school he claimed to have gone to in the âinterviewâ (him talking to an imaginary interviewer) on his blog. Itâs now known as the Farringdon Centre and is based at Ilminster, Somerset. It caters for pupils aged 11 to 16 with special needs, which include emotional and behavioural disorders, and autism spectrum disorders, with a capacity of 10 pupils. Bonehill subsequently deleted the reference to that school and denies he ever wrote it. He, according to him, saw lots of counsellors (see below), suggesting that he had a lot of problems as a child. He refers to the mentally disabled in far from glowing terms.
 You see them everywhere, genetic misfits and the retarded, marching around in chain-gangs throughout our towns and cities as they are looked after by poor White Carers who are tasked with being slave to these malformations of humanity. It is estimated at current that we as a nation spend at least ÂŁ60 million on caring for and keeping alive the genetically ill, weâve even adapted our way of life in order to fit their greedy need of âdisability accessâ in every facet of society.
Joshua Bonehill, Eugenics, the Radical Case, January 20, 2015
When these degenerates breed, more of their kind are forced upon our race and we are left to care for their existence. More often than not, the offspring of degenerates go on to commit horrific crimes, anti-social behaviour or simply identity with the liberal mentality which is offensive to national and racial interests. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Joshua Bonehill, Eugenics, the Radical Case, January 20, 2015Â
Disabled Children even have their own âSpecial Schoolsâ where they are made into an upper class of their own with a private education that is paid for by the taxpayer and better than the average âchild of the taxpayerâ would earn. The Disabled have become an upper class in their own right, with disability freaks rejoicing when they claim their Disability benefits which secure their way of existence for lifeâŚ.It is also upsetting for children who have to deal with the disabled kids who do not go to âSpecial Schoolsâ and form part of the mainstream at state schools. Referring back to my childhood again, I remember how the children of my school would rightfully bully the Downes Syndrome and Autistic children, recognising that these creatures were different from us the pure.
Joshua Bonehill, Eugenics, the Radical Case, January 20, 2015
 A special school like the one he went to. I wonder if he was one of the kids being bullied. He really hates autism it seems, which makes you wonder why that is so.
Joshua Bonehill â@VoiceOfBonehill                                @musicalbecki You're Ill in the head if you believe Autism is a positive thing, it's a genetic illness. 3:13 PM - 17 Jan 2015                                         Â
 Heâs also attacked the mentally disabled before on his Daly Bale website: people with Down Syndrome and autism being his pet hates.
  He got quite irate when it was pointed out that he went to a school specialising in autism and Aspergerâs.
 Maybe itâs another example of how he hates himself for what he is and pretends to be someone completely different?  And thus we start to go into darker realms than hair colour. Now, we arenât going to say Joshua Bonehill has mental problems or that his current behaviour stems to mental disabilities such as autism, but his reaction speaks volumes.
Joshua Napoleon Bonahill, the would-be short-arse dictator
Does Joshua Bonehill have a Napoleon complex? He views himself as a would-be dictator and likes to pretend he is much taller than he actually is. He tends to create false identities that have heights given as well over 6 feet tall. In one instance, if I recall correctly, he referred to himself as being 6 foot 2. But the fact is he is below average height and is very sensitive about it. If we use this photo taken by Richard Day when Bonehill was stalking him and that Mr. Day says he is 6 foot 1, Bonehillâs eye line appears to be a good 6 to 7 inches below that of Mr. Day. The basis of this is that Mr. Day was taking the photo using a phone and heâd have held it up at eye level to take the photo. So Bonehillâs something like 5 foot 6 or 5 foot 7.
Joshua Bonehill is a short-arse.
Another example of the difference in height is here.
Richard Day when stood on level ground is quite obviously looking down at the interviewer, Fiona Lamdin, whereas Bonehillâs eye-line is directly ahead and he may have even been standing on a slight slope. It is also easy to tell that Mr. Day is bigger in stature and height than Bonehill. But Bonehill is even prepared to lie about his height. On his Plenty of Fish profile he again gives his height at 6 foot 2 inches. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=92680360
Details  22 year old Male, 6' 2" (188cm), Non-religious
If true, that would make Richard Day around 6 foot 8 (and why would pretend to be massively shorter than he actually is?) and Fiona Lamdin around 6 feet tall. In fact Ms Lamdin appears to be about average height for a woman.
His Plenty of Fish profile is pretty rubbish anyway.Â
Ethnicity Caucasian Sagittarius with Mixed Color [hair]
Itâs red, man, red! Your photos even show this!
Do you have a car? Prefer Not To SayÂ
In other words no, but see below for where he pretends on another PoF account to own a Ferrari!
About Joshua On a constant adventure Check out the links below if you want to learn more about me Aside from what I do, I have a personal life and you are welcome to message me and find out. Â
He actually changed the description of himself, probably because people were mocking him.
 Interests Speeches Rugby Fascism Walking Beaches Animals Reading Art Creating Free Speech Clubbing
About Joshua  I'm proudly a Fascist and lead an upcoming movement called "National Liberation" (www.national-liberation.org). I believe that our people have been betrayed and democracy is wrong, so I'm going to do something about that. You may have seen me in the news etc, I don't try to hide the fact about who I am because I'm proud, but I also understand people will have disagreeable opinions and indeed agreeable political opinions. I'm not here for political debate necessarily lol It's important that you understand I am very passionate about what I do, it's not my career, it's my life. Check out the links below if you want to learn more about me Aside from what I do, I have a personal life and you are welcome to message me and find out. Â
Wow, what a catch! Obviously heâs so proud of being a fascist that he removed any reference to it whatsoever from his profile! All the links show his political views and apart from his political views he says nothing about his personal life, which apparently you have to message him to find out about. Coupled with his profession being listed as politics, he has baited his hook with a big lump of arsenic and sounds like a dodgier member of the 6th Form Debating Society of the sort that thinks Nick Griffin and Nigel Farage are wonderful, i.e. one big massive turn-off for women. What a sad little âmanâ.
On his website he even states that Anglo-Saxons are, âGenetically and racially, we are with broad shoulders, tall bones and stature that defines the strong build of our race.â
From images of him you can see he is nothing of the sort.
In his âBonehillism - A new future for Britainâ he also orders his âfollowersâ (i.e. imaginary friends) to avoid obesity, which he claims is a disease created by the Left.
17) Mega Morbid obesity is not permitted within Bonehillism, a Bonehillist must maintain a healthy body and reject fast food. Obesity is a disease created by the Left-Wing to kill off the British people.
As you tell in this photo Bonehill was quite chubby when younger.
I wonder if Bonehill could do the truffle-shuffle? Maybe his fatness is yet another aspect of his life he blames on the Left?
His âBonehillism - A new future for Britainâ demands that his followers idolise him.
16) Bonehillists must address the founder himself as âThe Founderâ or âLeaderâ, again this is done as a mark of respect towards the divine providence of the founder who rules over Bonehillism with an iron fist.
20) Bonehillists must never question the authority of the founder. The Founder himself has a Job to do and is always right in all of his decisions. There is only one leader of Bonehillism and that is Joshua Bonehill.
To quote Arnold Rimmer, well, we know what to get you for Christmas. A double lobotomy and ten rolls of rubber wallpaper.
In stating that his Daily Bale website is merely trolling on his part, Bonehill says he became the fictional persona of âLeader Bonehillâ, which he created. A bit like that Michael Crawford film, Condorman. You havenât heard of it? Never mind, youâve not missed much.
It was after listening to David Bowie's iconic album, "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust" on repeat for the best part of a day, I realised that I too could potentially create a "Persona" and play a character but instead of basing my character in the musical world, I'd place him in the political world - Leader Bonehill, the Founder was born.   Firstly I created my fictional and satire news website www.DailyBaleNews.com and set about generating headlines which quickly went viral throughout 2013. I was responsible for creating myths such as the campaign to ban black pudding and various other oddities that were quickly picked up upon right-wing groups such as the EDL and Britain First to which went viral. [...] It wasn't until the press and media caught onto my activity and started reporting on me as a real person that the ego started to be transferred into the real world. I was invited to speak at meetings and felt almost forced to display this persona in public and this I couldn't keep on doing because it fundamentally went against everything I believe in as a person.  Yes - I make no bones about it, for the past 16 months I have been trolling relentlessly at the expense of both the Left and the Right - it has been through this trolling that I am now appearing back in court over Daily Bale articles but this was a price i was prepared to pay and knew that my actions would of course have very real world consequences.  Leader Bonehill came alive and consumed me at times, the ego almost controlled me and took upon a very powerful and possessive role in my normal everyday life. I found myself almost believing that I was a "Right-Wing messiah" and had been sent from another planet to free the people and bring about a new great nationalist age - though this of course in reality was absolute bollocks and would never happen. [...] Everything I have said and done, right from posing for photographs or the videos I have made are the result of this "Persona". These do not represent my real views and can instead be seen as a comical 'act'        Â
 Is it the truth? Is he lying in an attempt to avoid prison by saying, âI didnât mean itâ? Whatever the case, it shows that he knows he can get the media to turn a pathetic drunken petty criminal into a public figure that people talk about.
 David Bowie inspires him? Well hereâs another David Bowie song that sums up Bonehill perfectly!
âPathetic little fat man, No-one's bloody laughing, The clown that no one laughs at, They all just wish he'd die.â âHe's so depressed at being hated, Fatso takes his own life, He blows his stupid brains out. âHe sold his soul for a shot at fame, Catchphrase and wig and the jokes are lame, He's got no style, he's got no grace, He's banal and facile, he's a fat waste of space,                       He's banal and facile, he's a fat waste of space.â  âSee his pug-nosed face,                                         Pug, pug, pug, pug,                                             See his pug-nosed face,                                         Pug, pug, pug, pug,                                            See his pug-nosed face,                                        Pug, pug, pug, pug." "The little fat man with the pug-nosed face,                           Pug, pug, pug, pug,                                             Little fat man, pug-nosed face,                                    Pug, pug, pug, pug,                                             He's a little fat man with a pug-nosed face,                           Pug, pug, pug, pug.â
 David Bowie
 He does seem oddly pre-occupied with his appearance, like he was massively insecure about it. In his âBonehillism - A new future for Britainâ, two of his twenty points concern what he considers to be the desirable physical appearance.
6) All Bonehillists must maintain a degree of personal hygiene. We are not like the Left-Wing who refuse to wash so therefore we will be clean, free and fresh in appearance. Short cropped hair is advised for males but not mandatory. 8) baggy or loose clothing is strictly forbidden. As touched on with rule number 6, Bonehillists are smart and clean in appearance. All items of âChavâ clothing should be disposed of before you even consider becoming a Bonehillist.
 You mean your followers must look like some ridiculous Teddy Boy with a Kim Jong-un haircut, like this?
Or maybe they should have that Mr. Potato Head look? Bonehead, potato head: no real difference.
Joshua Bonejob, the business failure
 Bonehill's 'businesses' have all amounted to scams. He started off with a music management scam where the staff were all fictitious people. PCX Management Ltd was supposed to promote artists and deal with their bookings. Bonehill was the chairman, but the rest of the staff were all his fake identities. He even created a fake solicitorâs firm, supposedly based in Crewkerne, Somerset. The Facebook page of PCX Management Ltd showed that the artists and DJs werenât at all convinced and that the company wasnât actually doing what it claimed it would.
Take a look at the names of the people who supposedly ran it.
Pacific Coast Extreme Management Ltd (PCX) PCX was established in 2007 to help promote local artists and manage their bookings. During the first year, PCX became well known and provided many success stories for local bands. With over 10 local bands currently signed to the label, PCX strives to bring local venues the cream of the crop, bringing excellent entertainment for excellent value. Formerly based in Weston-Super-Mare, PCX is now based in Yeovil, North Somerset. If you're looking to hire an act for your venue, please contact Theodore Pimpleton. If you're a musical act looking to be signed to our label, contact Joshua Bonehill-Paine. Personnel: Mr. Joshua Bonehill-Paine (Chairman, voluntary) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Mr. Joe Maclarel (HR Department) Mr. Theodore Pimpleton (Bookings) Mr. Tom Murray (PR)
Yeovil is not in North Somerset and attaching âPacificâ to anything based in Weston-Super-Mare requires imagination! Established when Bonehill was 14 or 15? Err, no! So itâs an obvious Bonehill scam. Elsewhere, Tom Murray is referred to as one of Bonehillâs greatest friends.
Joshua Bonehill @JoshuaBonehill 18h ¡                             @kickoutbnp @SLATFascists Thatâs my good friend Tom yes, one of my   greatest friends                                                5 Apr 2014
Theodore Pimpletonâs a known Bonehill alias and was originally Theodore Pimpleton-Maclarel.
Joe Maclarel is another alias, because apart from sharing part of Theodore Pimpletonâs original surname, there are no records of a âJoseph Maclarelâ or âJoe Maclarelâ ever having been born in the UK or being resident in the UK.
Then finally there is Tom Murray who is supposedly resident in Tennessee, but is doing the public relations for a company in Somerset. Notice how Tom says that when he goes back to Tennessee heâll âhang some of the locals in Atlantaâ, which is in neighbouring Georgia? Admittedly Atlantaâs not far away at all from Tennessee, but it doesnât sound right; like saying âIâm going back to England to have a night out in Edinburghâ.
Right, so we have Bonehill, two Bonehill aliases and Tom MurrayâŚ.more on him later.
Bonehill then tried to raise ÂŁ30,000 through a crowd-funding scheme, again with a fictitious management team, to make a film called "A Boston Tale" about the Boston Marathon bombings. He claimed he needed a total of ÂŁ50,000, with ÂŁ20,000 being his own money (itâs reasonable to assume that he doesnât have ÂŁ20,000), in order to produce a high quality film. The staff were again Bonehillâs creations.
âTerrance Frinton-Smithâ was later renamed âTerrance Barlingtonâ, a known Bonehill fake persona, and the photo is of unknown provenance.
âTheodore Maclarelâ is actually using a stolen photo of a model called Josh Barber. Maclarel doesnât appear to be a real surname and the link to âJoe Maclarelâ is obvious.
After 49 days the project folded with a single pledge of ÂŁ1. Whether Bonehill, who has no apparent film-making experience, would've actually attempted to make a film with the ÂŁ30,000 or just pocketed it is anyone's guess. Although based on his background it is likely that he intended to make ÂŁ30,000 out Bostonâs misery.
After the horrific murder of Lee Rigby, Bonehill took the idea of Boston Strong and came up with Woolwich Strong, marches for national unity to heal religious or racial divisions caused by the murder. Oh, how his attitude has changed!
He actually had very little to do with the Strong movement in the UK, with many of the individual, local, Strong organisations being heavily infiltrated by the far-right. However, peaceful marches took place and money was raised for charity.
Bonehill, literally within hours, of Lee Rigby's death was trying to sell T-shirts. He set a target of selling 1,000 T-shirts at ÂŁ20 a shirt via an online American charity, despite the charity costing the T-shirts at $20 each, not ÂŁ20. The charity only produces the money once the target is reached. Without asking for their permission, Bonehill claimed the money was going to Help for Heroes. Unfortunately the deadline for which he had to sell the shirts was approaching and his sales remained at 94, so he changed the target from 1,000 to 100, which he then accomplished.
Apparently he made a total of ÂŁ1105 off the sale of the T-shirts, with ÂŁ500 to himself as a âsalaryâ, a further ÂŁ500 going to an accomplice of his (who was probably him as well) as a âsalaryâ, ÂŁ100 in âadministrative costsâ and ÂŁ5 going to charity!
Joshua Bonehill-Paine is a fraudster, pure and simple, but as with his trolling he lacks the sense to do it under a different name.
 Joshua Badhill-Paine, his life and crimesÂ
It would appear that Bonehill is a career criminal, specialising in thuggery, criminal damage, theft/fraud and malicious communications.
His arrests and convictions from the available sources, although his word is suspect, are most likely include the following.
 Joshua Bonehill-Paineâs arrests and convictions up until 24th February 2015
Common assault
Affray
Common assault
Criminal damage (heâd also apparently been arrested 12 times by this point)
Affray
Fraud (stealing from an Indian restaurant): 12-month community order
Shoplifting
Burglary and assault (at Chard police station): 12-month community order with 100 hoursâ unpaid work and supervision by the probation service
Criminal damage (of flower beds in Yeovil)
Malicious communications (against the Globe pub): 180 hoursâ unpaid work, a 24-month community order and costs of ÂŁ145
Malicious communications: five counts of sending communications with false information and one of harassment. 3-month sentence suspended for 18 months, 80 hours unpaid work, ten sessions of 'education, training and employment', 18-month restraining order preventing him from identifying any victims on social media and ordered to pay ÂŁ85 costs and ÂŁ80 victim surcharge.Â
Racial hate, political harassment and malicious communications (relating to his proposed anti-Jewish rally Stamford Hill and his targeting of MP Luciana Berger)
 Thatâs just the ones we know about. Amazingly despite several threats of imprisonment he keeps avoiding getting sent down.
 When heâd only just turned 18 heâd already been banned from drinking in many pubs.
 Joshua Bonehill                                              January 2, 2011 I am going to have to desguise myself with a great bushy beard whilst going out in town. Banned from so many places. Like ⢠Comment ⢠Share
 Less than five months later he also managed to get banned from Wetherspoonâs for life.
Joshua Bonehill May 22, 2011 Banned from wetherspoons for lifeâŚoh well. no big loss! Like ⢠Comment ⢠Share
But despite that he videoed himself sat outside the William Dampier branch of J. D. Wetherspoonâs in Yeovil.
Do they know he was sat on their premises?Â
He was even on Pub Watch for 18 months for drinking underage, as he was apparently drinking in pubs from the age of 13.
 Joshua Bonehill @JoshuaBonehill  18h                             @kickoutbnp @SLATFascists Thatâs true, I was on pub watch for 18 months for drinking underage. I was drinking in pubs at 13.
 Indeed, Bonehill appears to have had a very troubled childhood in which he appears to have been completely out of control. Hereâs Bonehill aged 15 recounting his messed up life (his version anyway).
 bonehillGNRfan1                                              WILL SOMEONE GIVE ME A FREE ROCKBAND II FOR PS3 September 18, 2008, 09:38:58 PM  well thanks, As i think GnR and Axl saved me from destruction, that is my hobby GnR i did see loads of councillers and shit and i worked with them Gradually, i mean i was moved from place to place, at one stage i was sat in a city park at 2 in the morning with a bunch of Druggies, i was on Vodka and fags but they get real strange on that heroine, i got in many fights, i was arrested 12 times, court 4 times, and i was so close to being banged up and locked away in prison. I robbed stores for booze and fags, i travelled from town to city and villages, my life was on fire. Andyp: is there anyway you can prove all that in someway?  bonehillGNRfan1: well i wish i could, but i dont know how to, but i promise that is the truth, i just spent the last 2 years going through all dat shit, im not liaing, i really do promise what i told you is the truth
  Bonehill swearing something is true? Uh-huh! On the other hand there would be little point in inventing all that. Yet just 2 months after that, he was facing prison again and worried that he would not be able to hear the new Guns âNâ Roses album for 6 months.
BonehillGNRfan01                                              Im Facing a horrible situation  on: November 18, 2008, 06:56:48 PM  On the 25th the day after CD is released i have to go to court, and because this is like my 6 visit to court i could go to Juvie for about 6 months (possible) or i could get a tag, my horrible situation is that in england CD is released on the 24th therefore if i dosent come to my house on the 24th and i got to jail on the 25th i may very well not hear it for 6 months, that is pretty fuckin shite that the old bill had to give me a court date of the 25th fuck any one wanna help me break out of prison if i get put inside?  DrRedFox                                                    Re: Im Facing a horrible situation  Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 07:13:57 PM  your fifthteen and your already going to jail... nice  BonehillGNRfan01                                              Re: Im Facing a horrible situation  Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 07:23:02 PM  yep, (nearly 16) but what makes it even more wierd is that i was done for fraud, i walked into an Indian restruant drunk out ta my head and then i sat and ate and drank cyrrues and vodka and then tried to leave without paying i then got into a little fight with some indians and then later the police, also i got dreally fucking fucking frunk the other day on Vodie and i got a lady freind to record it on video and i was doing some wacky stuffm hopefully it is going on to youtube, and on parts of it i was actually shouting to random people in the streets to buy chinese democracy and i was shouting it out in my community so loud lol,
 Four months later, having avoided the juvenile detention centre, and he was able to reel off a growing list of arrests and convictions. Previously He said heâd been arrested 12 times, so itâs unknown whether these are the arrests that led to convictions.
BonehillGNRfan01                                               Re: Have u ever beeen arrested? ÂŤ Reply #25 on: March 06, 2009, 07:38:40 PM Âť Right Fuckers i will give you a list of my Arrests etc, 1,Common Assult 2. Affray section 2 3. Common Assult 4. Criminal Damage (court) 5. Affray Section 2  (court) 6.  Frued    (court) 7.  Shoplifting  (court) And thats my lot.. nor is it something to be proud of due to the fact i am now on a 12 month order which stops me from commiting any crimes because if i do then a go to jail P.S(to all the 'Do Gooders' who have been insulting me constantly in this thread. F.A.W.K  U. P.P.S (Mods i dont see F.A.W.K  U as being offensive, if you pull me up on this than i shall explaine what it means etc :) P.P.P.S (its nice to see that my name is mentioned every so now and again, it jsut shows how you all miss me so :) Â
 Attention-seeking as alwaysâŚ. The following is from Bonehillâs nationalistresistance.com blog, posted 4th April 2014. He left out Merry Hay Academy in this version. It appears he was violent at school too.
 Joshua: I was a pupil at Merriott Primary School before going to Maiden Beech school in Crewkerne and then followed by a brief stint at Wadham School. I was subsequently kicked out and excluded from Wadham for naughtiness and later went to Tauntom [sic] School which was a privately run school in taunton [sic], Somerset.Â
 Grant: You were kicked out for naughtiness?
Joshua: Yes, I was excluded for assaulting a fellow pupil by battery. The kids [sic] name was Zack, Iâll always remember that little weirdo. Essentially he provoked me and I decided to punch him right across the face and delivery [sic] a shiner on his cheekbone. Â
 "Grant" is of course Bonehill interviewing himself and being extremely narcissistic. I wonder if Zack was bullying him about being autistic or having red hairâŚ.or was Bonehill bullying Zack?
This is from Bonehillâs forthcoming autobiography when he claims he was in care from the age of 14.
At the age of 14 I entered the care system, politically unaware and naive to the world around me. During this time Britain was held under the tyrannical rule of the New Labour government and social services was an organisation known for stealing children and subjecting them to politically correct brainwashing through emotional and moral manipulation. I came from a perfectly normal background and upbringing yet my angst and fury at the âestablishmentâ [sic] was ever present at an early age and this evidently resulted in me being placed into the care of social services from the house of my parents. Growing up In care was fantastic. I realise that this of course is a highly inflammatory view but the experiences and skills for life that the care system had taught me are of great value to me. Childrenâs homes are a form of politically correct imprisonment where you are locked inside between the hours of 5pm till 10am the next morning and forced to adhere to a left-wing politically correct lifestyle except I rebelled against this. Whilst living in a care home in the Town of Taunton in Somerset I would frequently smash windows to break out and interact with the world around me. I refused to conform to a lifestyle that was not mine and the arrests pilled up against me as I resorted to crime in order to live normally away from the politically correct prison. I remember this one occasion where a black resident took a baseball bat to the cranium of an austic [sic] child to âreleaseâ demons inside. The care staff were horrified by this incident but covered it up entirely because the assailant was black and they didnât want to be labelled as a âracistâ establishment. I also witnessed what appeared to be a âguilt complexâ directed to the black resident in question by white members of staff who indeed worshipped the black because of his skin colour. Apart from frequent cover ups and politically correct tyranny, I was treated as a prisoner and would have to listen to deluded members of care staff telling me about how important equality Is. One member of staff would brag about his conquests in Africa over blacks and made out as if race mixing was indeed the normal state of affairs in the bedroom â not in my books. Fighting was another regular occurance [sic] within the care system to which I believe is natural and do not critic it. One has to learn to fight with ones fists and eliminate threats to ensure the survival of the fittest. There were many victories but just as many loses but nothing quite got the blood pumping faster than landing a beautiful and well formed punch across the jaw of the opponent. I would stage frequent break outs after lockdown by force or by stealth. The care home I was imprisoned at in Taunton had a small office where the keys to all the doors were kept in a deposit box and I would make it both my pride and duty to liberate those keys and force my way out and into the world. Indeed on one occasion where an obesic [sic] care home manager told me that I was never going to leave the confides of the care home I proceeded to throw a bunch of keys at him, landing a shiner on his forehead before picking up the large television set, wholly throwing it through the window and gleefully saying âjust watch meâ before jumping out of the destroyed window. In those days we would operate in what can only be described as âgangsâ. I by my own admission was a little thug and we as a gang would frequently steal from supermarkets and shops, mainly for alcohol to get our youngselves [sic] high and on the path to a good nightâs worth of entertainment. Crime is Crime and the only outcome is imprisonment, itâs not a lifestyle that one can adapt to easily yet luckily enough for me I avoided this and managed to pull myself up and out of the system. I was enraged by my treatment and the treatment of others around me in what seemed to be the direct result of political correctness and 12 years of New Labour. Â
*Slow hand clap* Utter crap. Ken Kesey must be rolling in his grave, seeing as Bonehillâs stolen his ideas from One Flew Over the Cuckooâs Nest! Criminal is institutionalised with mad people; check. Criminal is rebellious against authority; check. Criminal absconds from the institution and has fun; check. Criminal steals keys from the office; check. Criminal is violent in the institution; check. A heavy object is thrown through a window in order to escape the institution; check. The criminal is lobotomisedâŚ.well, Bonehill behaves like heâs had a lobotomy. All the tale is missing is going fishing in a stolen boat and a giant Native American. But why did no-one see fit to smother Bonehill?
Since when have people suffering from severe psychosis and in institutions, been allowed access to baseball bats? That bit seems to fulfil his contempt for blacks and autistic people. All the rest of it reads like either a) he had paranoid delusions or b) heâs making it all up.
He had a âperfectly normalâ upbringing and background, and his âangst and fury at the Establishmentâ put him care at 14? Look at how he described his life at age 15 when he said heâd spent two years totally out of control, drinking heavily, engaging in criminal activity and violence, the latter he appears to particularly enjoy. Or how as an adult he is saying he was drinking in pubs aged 13 and was on Pub Watch for underage drinking. Does that not suggest that his tale of having a perfectly normal childhood and being mysteriously kidnapped by social services, is him trying to deny that he was an out-of-control teenage alcoholic?
He admits he was expelled from one school for violence, was guilty of two counts of assault and two of affray by the age of 15, was involved in âmany fightsâ and even says he was even violent in this care home he claims he was in. Sounds more like that his âangst and fury at the Establishmentâ is in fact his euphemism for him being violent and out of control.
Violence along with alcohol appears to be a defining factor in his criminality and indeed, his so-called life in general. See how again he revels in his own violence and threats of violence. As Terrance Barlington he threatened to stab someone with a machete and an SS knife.
Terrance Barlington Hey Rod, come to my door and Iâll cut your face up with the machete iâve got next to it 8 hours ago ⢠Like ⢠1
Terrance Barlington Or perhaps Iâll shank you with this 8 hours ago ⢠Like â˘
 He was violent at college.
Joshua Bonehill                                                March 14, 2010 Lawl, a week off drinking Nâ Smoking, havenât had the time for facebook. Getting kicked from college does have its advantages. :D  Piers Szczepanski What you get kicked out for ? March 14, 2010 at 6:16pm ⢠Like  Joshua Bonehill :D Nâ hitting him good, he deserved it though, hopefully âiâll be backâ for good.  March 14, 2010 at 6:17pm ⢠Like  Joshua Bonehill :D haha, lawl..lookinâ forward to comin back. Apprently tom was Bleedinâ bad.  March 14, 2010 at 6:18pm ⢠Like Joshua Bonehill Pretty bad apprently, :D well so Nikky Sendell has told me. If it was like in the police hands Iâd be done for GBH.                   March 14, 2010 at 7:41pm ⢠Like                                                   Â
Bonehill shows absolutely no sign of remorse and tends to blame his actions on others, as if all his criminal activity was always someone elseâs fault. Take his recent court case on 9th February. Despite pleading guilty to malicious communications, i.e. making up lies about people on the internet, he still claims he was telling the truth.
I branded several Leftists as being âPaedophilesâ, after I was tipped off about their shady history with organisations such as P.I.E (Paedophile Information Exchange) and indeed their defence in covering up for the Paedophiles in Rotherham.
âTipped offâ, like he was âtipped offâ about the Globe pub. Nah, he just made it up and pretends he was passing on information in good faith, so heâs still insisting that the lies he pleaded guilty to are in fact true. If thatâs not the case and he was tipped off, why does he never provide evidence to prove it?
I fully believe every word I have written about these evil people, yet I was arrested for the crime of merely writing an article on the internet. I also branded Homosexuals, âHomosexualsâ, Jews, âJewsâ and for both of these accusations I was arrested for Harassment. I am proud of my accusations and fully stand by everything that has been said against the Left-Wing.
So proud about it that he cravenly pleaded guilty?
Now, remember that I was put through a campaign of hate and harassment which led to my family losing their jobs and coming under attack from the Left-Wing, simply because I was actively involved in politics. This campaign of hatred directed towards myself was being conducted by the very âvictimsâ of this court case Iâve been sentenced for.
He claims his victims were hassling him and that he is the victim. If he means they responded angrily to his lies, then he can hardly complain can he?
I in effect have been persecuted for retaliating to attacks made on myself and my family. These victims turned up to my home, took photographs and spread this online before putting a number of inflammatory objects through my letterbox. In court, statements were read out which claimed the victims to have been âTraumatisedâ, âScaredâ and âVictimisedâ by myself, yet these Left-Wing perverts would attend every trial, stalk me by turning up to my home and message me on a daily basis via Twitter or other social media platforms.
The Daily Bale was set up to fight the Left-Wing with the same brand of fire that theyâd been using against us with their news websites and outlets. I wasnât going to sit there and let the Left-Wing continue to attack our people without facing any consequences, they needed a taste of their own medicine and thatâs exactly what they got.
No, what actually happened was that he brought himself to the attention of anti-fascists by jumping on the Lee Rigby bandwagon, setting up Woolwich Strong with its EDL connections and trying to flog T-shirts. Then various things came out about him that showed he was a conman and a racist bigot. At which point he set up the Daily Bale and started publishing fake stories about a totally innocent Romanian shop banning English people, a totally innocent pub banning soldiers, and numerous other libels and acts of incitement.
I draw your attention to the fact that one of the Left-Wing victims issued a witness statement that was read out in court, they said âJoshua Bonehillâs article about me on the Daily Bale made me have a type 2 respiratory failure and I nearly diedâ. Another Left-Wing sicko claimed to have âlost his businessâ, whilst another claimed to have suffered anxiety and mental health problems because of my articles. All of these supposed victims are over the age of 40 and yet they make me, a 22 year old man, out to be some kind of evil genius with a website.
No, heâs a moronic troll with a website.
I found it all very funny, I openly laughed in court at several points as witness statements were read out in what seemed to be a conspiracy of collusion against me on the part of the Left-Wing. I really hope there is some truth to the statements given by these people, I hope they did find misery and suffering because itâs nothing compared to the utter hell they put me through.
The hell he put himself through due to his oddball behaviour. Obviously no sense of remorse there.
With regards to these victims, the real criminals of this court hearing, I understand that two are now under police investigation for harassment and malicious communications against myself. I have collected heap loads of evidence over the past 2 years from all the abuse Iâve received and will be perusing full prosecutions to brought against these people for their crimes.
âHeaps of evidenceâ, as in the âheaps of evidenceâ that he stuck on the Daily Bale? More demented BS.
In sentencing, the judge issued a 3 month suspended sentence, 18 month community order, a minor fine for court costs and a restraining order against the Left-Wing sickos involved in this case. The hypocritical thing about the restraining order is that the âVictimsâ continue to contact me on a daily basis, they continue to stalk me, harass me and issue me with their vile abuse. There was also 80 hours of unpaid work issued, this I look upon more as a reward than anything else. The unpaid work team tend to do work in country houses and scenic places throughout the beautiful countryside here in Somerset. I look at my sentencing as a glorious victory for free speech, fascism and indeed the great truth movement. I could have gone to prison but I was one hundred percent confident that this wouldnât be the case throughout the whole journey.
See, he still sees himself as the victim when in fact he published outright libels against these people, who were perfect strangers, and is whinging because they hate his guts for all the misery heâs caused them. It would appear that the âliberal PC justice systemâ that the likes of Bonehill are always moaning about as being too soft, suits him when he gets put on trial. Heâs not learnt his lesson and justice has not been served.
Further alleged criminal activities that Bonehill alleged to have engaged in are being banned nationwide from a major supermarket chain for getting drunk and attempting to defecate by the cosmetics department. He was thrown out by the security guards. There are several witnesses to this incident apparently.Â
He is also allegedly banned from the Mermaid Hotel in Yeovil, due to him being pinned against the wall by his throat by a barmaid who then threw him out. The reasons for the barmaid doing this are undisclosed, but there are apparently witnesses to this incident as well. On that matter you may draw your own conclusions.
 Joshua Bone-Idle-Paine
Bonehill is a lazy dosser, who was kicked out of college, is unemployable and has trouble getting housing due to his lifestyle, and spends his money on booze and fags it appears.
Joshua Bonehill                                                March 14, 2011 Have been made homeless by the somerset councill for silly reasons. Any ideas? Other than going to prison or joining a religious cult..lols Like ⢠Comment ⢠ShareÂ
Joshua Bonehill lol cheers..Basically the housing authority in Yeovil have said they will not help me because of my drinking and behavioral choices. The irony in this is that i am actually standing  for the District Councill in May, which means i could potentially be their boss. However that is very unlikely! lol March 14, 2011 at 12:52pm ⢠Like  Â
As we know he failed to get elected; got drunk in the Phoenix Hotel in Chard by downing a litre bottle of Jack Danielâs and four sleeping pills; got thrown out of the hotel; wandered up to the local police station and was refused entry; later returned and flicked the latch with his Conservative Party membership card; nicked an inspectorâs uniform complete with baton, handcuffs and body armour that he put on outside the police station to âkeep warmâ, and when challenged by the police got involved in a âbaton-to-baton fightâ that resulted in him ending up with âincredibly sore legsâ and yet another conviction. Thereby proving that the Yeovil housing authority were right about him in the first place!
Ten minutes after that post and he was joking about heading down to the Job Centre to get a crisis loan, as he needed tobacco.
Joshua Bonehill lolsâŚRight, now i must head to the Jobcentre and get an emergency crisis loan. i need tobaccoâŚâŚâŚ March 14, 2011 at 1:02pm ⢠Like  Â
Crisis loans are for emergencies, like when you have no food for instance, and urgently need money before your next lot of benefits come in. They are not for luxuries like tobacco. If this individual was like most people in his position, an unemployable alcoholic on benefits and living in council housing, he would not attract any attention at all. Imagine Bonehill with a rural West Country accent (or any working class accent for that matter), wearing tracksuit bottoms, a pair of Nikes and a hoodie: would anyone on either side of the Atlantic have ever had paid him any attention whatsoever? So why did they? Because he has a posh voice and wears suits, so was seen as somehow being ârespectableâ and âwell-informedâ by the far-Right. Itâs funny how appearance counts for more than substance in politics.
Joshua Kosherhill?
 Bonehill-Paine hates Jews with a passion, even going so far as to accuse anyone opposed to him of being a Jew. He is also intensely proud of the Bonehill (his fatherâs) side of his family, which he is fond of pointing out, comes from the Tamworth area and has produced a DNA test that he says proves all his ancestors are from Northern Europe.
 On both my paternal and maternal side, the DNA results found that I was 100% Northern European and there was not one single trace of any Jewish, non-white or other racial group in the findings. My strongest genetic ties were found in East Anglia, London and Germany, with ancestors also found in Norway, Sweden, Scotland and Ireland. [âŚ]  The surname Bonehill is a traditional Anglo-Saxon name, taken from the Hill fort of my ancestors in Tamworth to which remains till this day.
 Interesting how he only showed what is obviously a zoomed in and cropped image of what he claims are his genetic origins. I wonder what he left out. Moreover, he doesn't mention the origins of the Paine family, as if his motherâs surname was embarrassing, only mentioning where his fatherâs name comes from. The name Paine or Payne originates in Payen in France and is a noble name, coming over to England after the Conquest. An American DNA study of the Payne family is here, which includes British Paynes: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/payne/default.aspx?section=yresults
The I-M170 haplogroup features quite a bit and thatâs interesting as the people it is most strongly connected with are the Andalusians, French, Slovenians, Tabassarans, Saami with the strongest link being to the Laks in Dagestan. Â The J haplogroup is found in only 11% of the population of England and Wales. There are two examples of J-M172, which is found in the Near East, the Balkans, Arabia, Italy and the Caucasus. I-M253 also features strongly and is found mostly amongst Scandinavians. Haplogroup Q-M242 is also very common in the Payne DNA results and is believed to have arisen in North Asia, from where it migrated to the Americas, where it is found in 94% of the indigenous peoples of South America. It can be found in 95% of Siberian Kets. There are a few examples of haplogroup E, which is of South East Asian origin. Haplogroup R-M269 is about 92% in Wales, 82% in Ireland, 70% in Scotland, 68% in Spain, 60% in France (76% in Normandy), 45% in Eastern England, 50% in Germany, 50% in the Netherlands, 42% in Iceland, and 43% in Denmark. Haplogroup I-P37 (I2a) comes up a lot and can be found most strongly in the Balkans. All in all the Payne/Paine family has quite a varied genetic background.
Bonehill-Paine probably didnât look through all that though. What he may well have seen however were various sites saying that Paine or Payne is a Jewish surname. It looks as though Paine isnât originally a Jewish surname, but Jews have adopted it. Notice that the surname Paine is included in the Sourcebook for Jewish Genealogies and Family Histories by David Zubatsky and Irwin Berent: http://www.avotaynu.com/books/sourcebook.htm
We donât know Bonehill-Paineâs motherâs religion or ethnic origins, but maybe the mere thought that he might be Jewish has upset Bonehill-Paine to the extent that, yet again, he has projected his self-loathing onto others? This is pure speculation of course and we arenât suggesting Joshua Bonehill-Paine is a Jew himself. Indeed, it could be that Bonehill-Paine is merely targeting the Jews because he knows it will get a media reaction.
 Joshua Benthill-Paine?
 Joshua Bonehill also seems to have a problem with homosexuals and in fact along with âpaedophileâ and âJewâ is probably his most used slur against his victims. For example, he falsely accused Joseph Carlisle online of being Jewish, homosexual and a convicted paedophile. Â
Take this conversation on Facebook.
Nazleen Imam So those who say they are born being gay What do you say to them? 29th March 2014 at 15:52 ⢠Like ⢠ Joshua Bonehill I donât believe they are, itâs a mental illness that is developed in childhood through experiences and bad parenting in my opinion. The absence of a father figure or the decline in discipline. 29th March 2014 at 16:02 ⢠Like ⢠ Nazleen Imam So under your leadership what would gays face? 29th March 2014 at 16:14 ⢠Like ⢠ Tom Murray Kill them all ! Gas em like Hitler did back in the day 29th March 2014 at 16:31 ⢠1 Like ⢠Joshua Bonehill likes this
  Interesting how Bonehill comes across all rational sounding, but likes the bloodthirsty comment by Tom Murray, but more on Murray later. And on Twitter Bonehill again declares homosexuality to be a mental illness.
Joshua Bonehill @VoiceOfBonehill                                 @TheWulf_93 @Hotdesigner Homosexuality is a mental illness, it does not occur in nature other than mentally ill elements. 4:21 AM - 16 Jan 2015
 On his National British Resistance website he goes even further. Railing against same-sex marriage, he says:
Homosexuality is a mental illness, a sexual perversion that is classified in the same bracket as paedophilia in the eyes of medical experts.
 Joshua Bonehill, Same-Sex Marriage: A threat to our nation, 24th March 2014
Oh really, which experts would these be? Would they have surnames like Sodholmy, Barlington, Pimpleton and Maclarel? He then rambles on about gay marriage giving rights to paedophiles, but weâll address the latter in a bit.
 In his âBonehillism - A new future for Britainâ Bonehill also denounces metrosexuality as a fiendish plot to effeminise men.
3) Metrosexualism is strictly forbidden for all males who identify with Bonehillism. We recognise that Metrosexualism is a perverse tactic used by the Left-wing to feminise masculinity and We [sic] believe that men should be men.
 Yep, he really thinks homosexuality is a mental illness brought on by bad parenting, the absence of a father figure, childhood experiences and a decline in disciplineâŚ. But Bonehill seems to have been brought up by his mother, i.e. it doesnât look like he had a father figure, he went to a special needs school that specialises in mental disabilities, and his adolescence was full of wild behaviour and a lack of discipline. Did he have any âchildhood experiencesâ as well? Is he trying to tell us something about his own sexuality here? He doesnât sound very secure in his sexuality, does he? Now, we arenât saying Joshua Bonehill is gay, but a scientific study of homophobes discovered that many homophobes are in fact repressed homosexuals: http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html Maybe heâs just worried that heâs gay.
 Joshua Bonerfail-Paine: a lack of sexual success?
That brings us to Bonehillâs sexually immature behaviour and his attitudes towards women. For example, from his âBonehillistâ doctrine we can see that he regards women as being totally subservient to men.
18) A Woman must never question the authority of a man. A Bonehillist male is viewed as the âPack Leaderâ and main bread winner of the household. The male will offer protection and a roof for the female and maintain household authority whilst the woman will engage in feminine activity that doesnât overtake the mans [sic] standing within the household.
He seems to have very immature views on what men and women should really be like and his attitude to women can be seen in some further examples.
He falsely accused one woman of attempting to sexually assault him and of stalking him.
Then we have some threats made by Bonehill under his Theodore Pimpleton persona threatening Maggie Chapman.
Remember Joe Maclarel? Interestingly there is an entry on Plenty of Fish with that name from Yeovil.
Now, this could be a genuine person, but considering that no-one by that name has ever been born in the UK with that name since 1836, he lives in the same town as Bonehill when no-one of that name apparently lives in the UK and the surname seems to originate with Bonehillâs alternative personas, I think we can rule that out. We have blanked out the presumably stolen photos. His height is given as 6 foot 5, which is well in keeping with Bonehillâs sensitivity with being short. His hair colour is given as being black, which is the colour Bonehill dyes his, ginger, hair. We can have a look at what he says about himself.
Hey hey, i'm Joe Maclarel. DJ for the drivetime show on eXtreme FM. I also work as a part time model for YSL and am currently doing some university when i can fit it in. I goto the gym and work out daily, i believe keeping my body up to scratch is an important thing.
Thereâs an Extreme FM based in South Africa and an extreme fm in Clacton-on-Sea. There is also an Xtreme FM that is based in Craigavon. All of which are an awful long commuting distance from Yeovil. Additionally there appears to be a solitary, now defunct, entry on Facebook for âDrive Time on Extreme FMâ, where the host DJ is one Trevor Rapley. If he was actually at university it would never be a matter of doing it when he could âfit it inâ, i.e. doing it on occasion. He models for Yves Saint Laurent as well as going to university and working as a DJ, and he owns a Ferrari (see below)? Wow, what a catch!
Just finished with a girl called nelly so now i'm looking for new love, but a lover that will love me for who i am, not money, cars or my job.
Ha, ha! Whoâs called Nelly these days?
I love massages and massaging which is why i did a course in it a few years back, i believe a good massage is sensual, sexual and utter bliss.
That translates as, âI want to grope you and fuck you.â
Some of you folks may have seen me speeding around in Yeovil in my Red Ferrari (only an old one from the 90s) but it's a sexy motor and i'd very much like to take you for a ride in it.
That translates as, âI want to fuck you in my (non-existent) car.â
I have big hands that are well suited to being placed around the body of a beautifull woman. So give me a message if you like what you're reading and we'll see what happens, ya? xxxx
That translates as, âI want to grope you.â
His interests include, âwomen, girls, birds, chicksâ and most interestingly, âAlfa maleâ [sic], which ties in with Bonehillâs vision of what Bonhillist men and presumably himself are.
For a first date, this is what he has to say.
life is good, sex i great and soul is everything, sex is not always everybody's cup of tea on a first date but if you want it i can give it.
Which translates as, âI want sex on a first date.â
Essentially the whole profile reads as âcreepy, fake, pervertâ.
Why does he behave in such a sexually immature manner? Is it the lack of a real sex life? Certainly Alex Wood believes Bonehill is a virgin.
Peter Birch â@YeovilBirch Jan 25 @ObiWanKenazi @YeovilHG @VoiceOfBonehill "If I cut my hair short maybe you won't tell I'm ginger. Dyeing didn't work" pic.twitter.com/BaiIFwwxf8  Richard Day â@richard12345776 Jan 25                             @YeovilBirch @loup_dargent @ObiWanKenazi @YeovilHG @VoiceOfBonehill In with the nonces, they will appreciate him. Fresh flesh.  Comrade Wood â@YeovilHG Jan 26 @richard12345776 he's a virgin too, theyll love that! @YeovilBirch @loup_dargent @ObiWanKenazi @VoiceOfBonehill  Joshua Bonehill â@VoiceOfBonehill Jan 26 @YeovilHG Talking about virginity, didn't you take the virginity of a 13 year old when you were 18? I remember talk of this at college.  Comrade Wood â@YeovilHG Jan 26 @VoiceOfBonehill haha i heard talk that you were a gay cross dresser in college. Best to ignore rumors  Joshua Bonehill â@VoiceOfBonehill Jan 26 @YeovilHG LOL!! I'll give you a point for the humour factor
 That couldâve been a mere childish insult, but notice how Bonehill never attempts to deny it? Could his behaviour towards women be as a result of sexual frustration?
Bonehill is utterly obsessed with paedophilia, unhealthily obsessed in fact.
 He even manages to combine anti-Semitism with accusations of support for paedophilia. He insists that âRabbis suck babiesâ penises after circumcisionâ and âgo back to Israel you hateful argument-less fear arse shaking little Jewâ.
He accuses random innocent people of being paedophiles, but at the same time never condemns his friends when they actually do say paedophilic things. Which eventually brings us back to Tom MurrayâŚ.
Tom Murray haha i can fuck 14 year olds in england and america, as long as im under 18, if im over 18 its rape.. and holland is nice id like to smoke mary j legally mostly. drinking is no biggie for me and neither is fucking a small titted 14 year old December 26, 2010 at 10:55 pm Tom Murray haha yes ofcourse id love to fuck 8 year old girls, god yes. No not really, there is no point fucking a little girl, they have no tits, no ass and there pussy is so tight it would make your dick bleed. I do like the part about buying a wife tho, and having more then 1 wife.  December 26, 2010 at 10:58 pm  Joshua Bonehill Wait, you can only have sex with a 14 year old with you are under 16. Although itâs still illegal. December 26, 2010 at 10:59 pm
 Bonehill doesnât condemn what Tom Murray says and merely gives advice on having sex with 14 year olds. As a point of note, Bonehill turned 18 less than three weeks before this exchange, on 7th December 2010.
Who is Tom Murray? Bonehill insists heâs a âgood friendâ who lives in America. Remember the PCX fake music promotion business based in Yeovil, Somerset (where Bonehill lives) that we mentioned earlier? We have a fake music promotion business created by a total loner, who also has an obsession with paedophilia, and who creates lots of fake businesses and fake online personas. One of the names of the staff, as you know, was Tom Murray. Bonehill however insists that Murray is a friend who lives in America and he takes no responsibility for him.
EDL News @edlnews Apr 7 ¡                                    Is Tom Murray your @joshuabonehill? seems kids are at risk of abuse under Bonhilism. Paedo ring, u need locking up joshuabonehill.tumblr.com  Joshua Bonehill â@LeaderBonehill Apr 7 ¡                            @edlnews Tom Murray lives in America and is a friend, his comments aren't my responsibility.  EDL News @edlnews Apr 7 ¡                                    @Joshuabonehill an admission you are friends with a paedophile. Oh deary me. You will fit in well as #EDL leader  Joshua Bonehill â@LeaderBonehill Apr 7 ¡                            @edlnews Tom isnit a paedophile though, why are you falsely accusing people of paedophillia Richard?  EDL News @edlnews Apr 7 ¡                                     @Joshuabonehill so wanting to have sex with 14 year old is not paedophilia according to you.  You are sick #edl  Joshua Bonehill â@LeaderBonehill Apr 7 ¡                            @edlnews So why do the comments of somebody else mean that I'm involved in a paedophile ring? You falsely accused me of it as well.Â
Oh no, how dare someone suggest Bonehill's a paedophile! How very dare they! If we had to make an educated guess we might say that Tom Murray appears to be another fake profile; one that expresses Bonehillâs darker urges (underage sex and homosexuals in the cases above), when at the same time he is trying to appear rational under his own name. In which case Bonehillâs right on two accounts: 1) Tom isnât a paedophile, because imaginary people canât be paedophiles, and 2) Bonehillâs not in a paedophile ring, because you need more than one person for that. Â
Either:
Bonehill can prove Tom Murray is real, but if Bonehill doesnât condemn him (bearing in mind that in more than four years he still hasnât and doesnât believe he should) he condones paedophilia.
Tom Murray is a fake account of Bonehillâs and Bonehill is a paedophile, who needs help.
Even more disturbingly, Joshua Bonehill claims in a video called âWhat is an Anti-Whiteâ, in which he sets the world record for saying âwhiteâ the most times in a six-and-a-half minute YouTube video, that he hung around four London schools looking at children. Apparently he was trying to determine what races they were, but whatever his reasons thatâs extremely weird and creepy.
Now, weâre not actually saying Joshua Bonehill is a paedophile, but there is more circumstantial evidence to support this than the totally invented libels he creates. Weâre also not saying Joshua Bonehill is a virgin, a pervert and useless with women, but there are certain hints that suggest this may be true.
 Joshua Boneheil-Hitler is really Joshua Downhill-Drain
Joshua Bonehill is a massive underachiever, whose life consists of a series of personal failures and social isolation. He craves attention more than anything else (maybe he didnât get enough as a kid?). In recent years he has discovered that he can manipulate the media and social networking to draw attention to himself.
The trouble is although he causes an awful lot of damage with his trolling, he lacks the brains to avoid using his own name and thereby getting hoist by his own petard. He's in effect the troll equivalent of a suicide bomber.
Never mind if none of his publicised marches ever take place, his attempts at charity fail or that is ideas are total bollocks, because in the end all that draws attention to himself. This blog entry is as a result of that trend of course.
However, what will happen is that as he has realised that by saying truly vile things and becoming as infamous as possible draws the most attention to him, ultimately using that tactic will backfire and make him the biggest loser. Whether he actually believes in any of the rubbish he spouts or not, his victimsâ names will be swiftly forgotten by the general public, but his, highly unique, name will not.
Joshua Bonehill has created a mighty persona for himself online (the sort of powerful person he wishes he was) that the media would have you believe is true Bonehill: that of the scary neo-Nazi. He is in reality a sad, pathetic character who has failed at life. Bonehillâs social circle seems to consist entirely of people he invents online, with ridiculous names like Theodore Pimpleton and Steven Sodholmy. He canât even create realistic sounding names for his aliases; they sound like names a child would invent! Maybe theyâre his childhood imaginary friends? Heâs an unemployable, moronic troll who lives in an online fantasy world to escape the reality of his existence, and who is angry at the world for the crappy life he leads, so he uses the internet to vent his anger out on whoever he pleases. He simply canât stop himself. For Joshua Bonehill-Paine the future is dark, the future is orange.
Take it away Tim Minchin!
The BBC describe him as such, so who are we to argue? P.S. He also appears to hate being called that, so even more of a reason to stick this up.
The Cunt of Monta Cute
An Arrogant Pillock
Is he mad? Is he an incompetent troll? Or is he on drugs (in which case crack meet pot)? In The Count of Monte Cristo, Edmond Dantès was locked up for many years, escaped and wreaked a terrible revenge on his enemies under the guise of several different aliases. In real life a certain internet troll has managed to do the above in reverse. So far he has brought suffering to a lot of people whilst using a series of aliases and now is facing prison. With any luck though if he is imprisoned heâll never escape, although the idea of him trapped at the bottom of the sea in a weighted bodybag does have a certain appeal! We therefore present to you The Cunt of Monta Cute*!
The Cunt of Monta Cute looking for all the world like he is constipated or has a rectal thermometer jammed up his arse
Weâve given him this alias so we donât have to give him further publicity by using his real name, as he is an attention-seeking bastard.
The Compulsive Criminal: A Defence Lawyerâs Worst Nightmare
Despite facing gaol for multiple cases of malicious communications, he simply canât stop breaking the law it seems. His trial has been adjourned several times now and yet he still carries on creating malicious hoaxes. His defence lawyer must be on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
His website is such a massive collection of fabrications, we can only assume he doesnât work, go to college/university or do anything other than invent outrageous lies.
Because Ebolaâs such a laughâŚ.
He really canât stop libelling and creating hoaxes, and his latest little wheeze is to try and cash in on the Ebola scare, by inventing stories of it spreading in the UK. Yeah, thatâs really clever: start a mass panic. For that reason we can only stick up a few of the Ebola related ones. In order to deny his website more hits we wonât provide direct links. You can see his name in the screen-captures of course, but you probably already know it.
Hoax 1: Accusing Tesco of spreading Ebola
http://i.imgur.com/JFI8oho.jpg?1
A fairly straightforward piece of scaremongering, suggesting that Tesco and other supermarkets may be importing food contaminated with Ebola into the UK. He says may be, but itâs a case of making out that they are without actually saying it. There is zero evidence to support this and he is using the threat of Ebola to call for a boycott of all âJewishâ owned supermarkets and for people to buy only food produced in the UK (which is unsustainable anyway). He hates Jews and foreign goods, basically. Tesco is unsurprisingly somewhat angry about this and arenât the sort of people to take it lying down.
Hoax 2: Claiming an illegal immigrant with Ebola is on the loose in Leicester
http://i.imgur.com/zjLAA9V.jpg?1
Oh Lordy, Lordy! Who will save us from this black man? Once again itâs total nonsense and the whole thingâs a fake. As if the Prime Minister is going to call for public calm in the face of a major epidemicâŚ.which is only being reported by a single blog. Youâd think such an announcement would be on the telly, wouldnât you? How would they know that an illegal immigrant had entered the country âlast Wednesdayâ and using illegal immigration as a reason to ban legal immigration is plain dumb. You see, the art of trolling is that what you say has to be somewhat believable, believable enough to fool people into believing it and arguing over it, so this is an example of bad trolling. I think itâs pretty clear that anyone who uses the threat of Ebola as an excuse to end immigration; is a total wanker, especially when it involves inventing stories. Equally, it says a lot about someone who tags their blogs with ân*ggers getting searchedâ, ân*ggers have ebolaâ, ân*ggers spread ebolaâ and âvote BNPâ.
The man in the poster is actually called Ansumana Jadama not âJamal Maloufâ, heâs 20 not 32, and heâs accused of murdering a neighbour in South Salt Lake, Utah. Nothing to do with Ebola.
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27121462
The NHS has categorically denied having anything to do with the poster.
http://i.imgur.com/JrBj7Cd.png?1
The photo purporting to be of police stopping suspects in Leicester is in fact from the Guardian in June 2014, those are Metropolitan Police officers and it is totally unrelated to Ebola.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/16/complaints-police-racism-accusations-officers
Those arenât police in Leicester sealing off a street looking for a man with Ebola; they are hunting a sex attacker in Market Harborough in June 2013.
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Suspected-sex-attack-town/story-19376014-detail/story.html
The phone number 08006122918 is linked to the Animal Foundation Platform: http://www.animalfoundationplatform.com/contact.html Last time round the number that was given (on a hoax missing girl poster) belonged to Hastings Direct.
Hoax 3: Pretending that Oxfam spreads Ebola
http://i.imgur.com/PQ2HW5C.jpg?1
This is so totally batshit insane that I donât really see much point in passing comment on it, but it is sufficiently weird that I think I should summarise. He is trying to pretend that all African countries that Oxfam has established wells in now have Ebola. The map showing the countries where he says Ebola is shows far more countries than are actually affected. Apparently Oxfam workers go to Africa in order to feel âmorally superiorâ, and Ebola apparently is spread via water and air. Oh yes and we get to hear how Ebola was created by Judeo-Marxists to exterminate white people (which it is why it is killing only black people!) and how he will become the messianic leader of a post-apocalyptic colony in the Falkland Islands! Err, yeah, whateverâŚ.
He REALLY hates black people
http://i.imgur.com/1pPuYuA.png?1
He hates them with a passion, believing them to spread disease and crime, and that they live in filthy conditions. Oh and he also hates race-mixers, the left wing and disabled people. The Black Death originated in Central Asia and the name has nothing to do with black people. Spanish Flu may have originated in the USA, France or China, but not Africa. He is an idiotic chinless wonder.
EBOLAGEDDON!
http://i.imgur.com/owzRr2f.png?1
A sort of I Am Legend meets The Triumph of the Will.
Some serious back-peddling!
Because heâs an arrogant tosser who never thinks anything through, he openly libels people and organisations in his own name. Tescoâs understandably were not happy at the suggestion that their food may be laced with Ebola and have now taken the matter with the police. Cue the, âI didnât mean what you think I meantâ, video.
https://vid.me/T9z
1st part of the video, 0 â 4:43
Tesco have âdee-posâ in Africa: I thought this fool was supposed to be some sort of British nationalist, yet he uses Americanisms, and having saidâŚ.
âTesco is an evil, capitalistic judeo backed store. I'm sure their shares will be plummeting after the Ebola scare.â
âŚ.Iâm not entirely convinced of his sincerity when he declares that he wasnât being malicious.
âWe donât know a lot about Ebola. It could be spread by waterâ
Speak for yourself. Ebola is spread by human contact, not by water. He has no evidence to support his theory that Ebola can be spread in preserved food, because there is none. He provides further proof that he wants to start a food scare in order to stop Britain importing food from Africa. The article went viral: an unintentional joke there! Tesco were angry? You donât say! Theyâve not examined your claims because theyâre the musings of a simpleton. Why would Tesco donate ÂŁ25,000 to the Ebola Outreach Fund on account of someone starting malicious rumours about their food? Apparently youâre allowed to disagree with himâŚ.although elsewhere heâs harassed and libelled any such critics and said when heâs in charge theyâll be rounded up. The article is heartfelt and caring? He tried to trigger a mass panic by hinting strongly that the food of Britainâs largest grocer was contaminated by a deadly disease!
2nd part of the video, 4:43 â 7:03
He admits that his phony âAmy Hamiltonâ poster was fictitious, but arrogantly believes that it led to arrests in Rotherham and Rochdale, by encouraging victims to contact the police. But the poster was created after the arrests.
He also admits to that the "Jamal Malouf" poster was a fake. âHe might have Ebola, it doesnât say for definiteâ: the poster does say for definite that the illegal immigrant has Ebola, as it says âJamal tested positive for Ebolaâ. I love the way how he says sticking up posters impersonating the NHS and claiming thereâs a man with Ebola on the loose is not malicious or designed to provoke fear! There are no security checks when entering the UK: has he ever actually gone abroad? There in fact checks for Ebola at the airports and London St. Pancras International railway station.
So creating a fictional man with Ebola, telling the public to look out for this non-existent individual and if they do to phone a number thatâs not even linked to the NHS, will have the effect of raising awareness of Ebola? Err, no. All it will in fact do is to cause a panic, a panic calculated to be aimed at blacks, whom The Cunt obviously detests with a vengeance.
3rd part of the video, 7:03 â 8:58
The third part is him saying he may get locked up, with a lot of foot-stamping defiance, arrogance and petulance, which isnât worth watching.
The bit we removed on the grounds of taste
That was followed by 6 minutes of photos of happy African kids, Ebola victims and The Cunt, who apparently is their saviour for getting Tesco to donate ÂŁ25,000 and deserves to be saved from prison, and all set to âOne Day Like Thisâ by Elbow. Yes it is that bad, so itâs been chopped off to prevent you from vomiting! Itâs also pretty cynical, as he hates blacks with a passion.
Both hoaxes are him exploiting Ebola as a weapon (figuratively speaking) in order to whip up fear of the minority groups he has issues with, cause them as much trouble as possible, and to drive people towards his line of politics. Err, yes, he is a little bit twisted.
Anyone for herpes?
But suppose his plan has a grain of truth to it and creating fictional bogeymen to terrorise the public, in fact makes them aware of health issues? Well letâs do an experiment.
Weâll use a fictional name: "Terrance Barlington" is one of the fake names used by The Cunt, so weâll use that name as the person isnât real. Weâll use a photo of The Cunt, because this is his theory we are testing, although this fictional character is not meant to represent him.
What particular disease shall we make this about? An STD? Sounds good, but we donât want to make it something really nasty like HIV, more like something unpleasant like herpes. Letâs say the fictional character called "Terrance Barlington"Â Â has herpes. Itâs more than likely that given the number of aliases The Cunt uses, that in real life at least one of them would have an STD.
Then weâll create a poster that will raise awareness of herpes by saying thereâs a non-existent, fictional illegal immigrant called "Terrance Barlington"Â Â spreading herpes around. Cool? Because The Cunt is a massive racist, weâll make "Terrance"Â Â black for the hell of it and stick up his mates at the BNPâs hotline number, instead of the Animal Foundation Platformâs one. Here we go!
DISCLAIMER
"Terrance Barlington"Â Â is a fictional person and you cannot libel a fictional person. Fictional people also cannot carry and spread real diseases. The person in the image is real, although the image has been heavily doctored, and the character of "Terrance Barlington"Â Â is not intended to represent the person in the image. The image is being used for artistic purposes only. We are not claiming that the person in the image carries a sexual disease or indeed has even been in a position to contract one.
Seeing as your average BNP knuckle-dragger thinks all black people look the same, with any luck their hotline will be jammed with calls by the racist morons. You know; the ones who donât understand what the word âfictionalâ means.
Iâm vewwy, vewwy sowwy
Oh look, the defender of free speech who believes all left wingers should be rounded up, has pleaded guilty to seven different charges, having already tweeted to himself via his fake accounts that he was going to get a favourable verdict.
Nice screen-capture of Robert Carlyle as Hitler in court thereâŚ.
Whoops! Have fun in prison, you prize turnip!
*Montacute is small and lovely village near where this idiot lives. It has nothing really to do with him apart from sounding vaguely like Monte Cristo and providing said idiot with a title. Thereâs a very beautiful National Trust house there, big gardens that are wonderful in the summer. Pay a visit, take the kids, eat cream teas in the sunshine and forget any associations with this idiot. ;)
A Distorted Kind of Reality
I thought I'd give a few examples of just how the EDL think and how their thought patterns don't really conform to most people's definition of reality.
Muslims and Asians
As noted previously the EDL go out of their way to make a big fuss any time grooming gangs are referred to as "Asian", insisting that they be called "Muslim" instead. This is entirely down to them having to keep up the pretence that they are against Islam as a religion and not just a bunch of "Paki-bashing" racists. References to members of their victim group as "Asian" merely underline what they're really about, so they hate it. Just how stupid the picture is can be summed up thus.
1. They have multiple different ethnic groups on there from Asia (some of whom, like Burma and India, may well be Muslims), which they collectively refer to as the "Asian race", but leave out Pakistanis. Pakistan being an Asian country.
2. The grooming gang in the photo consists of men of Pakistani origin.
3. Saying they should be called Muslims as "Asian" covers many different ethnicities is hypocritical, because "Muslim" covers many different ethnicities including Turks, Albanians, Moroccans, Malaysians Somalis and Nigerians, none of whom are represented in the above "Muslims" image.
We have no free speech
There's a line between free speech and mere rabble-rousing hatred. The EDL don't believe it should apply to them, although they're happy to call for Anjem Choudary to be hanged  for what he says, when in truth he's no different from them. If they themselves had no free speech they wouldn't have been at liberty to chat shite for the last five years.
Craig Carrick Holsgrove I've just been suspended because of the views I have. I put on twitter that I believe Muslims are paedo's, this got reported to the police and the police reported my tweet to my company. I am devastated and heartbroken that something I know is true and something I truly believe in has resulted in me being a victim of my own view
Like ¡ Reply ¡ 8 ¡ 29 August at 14:38
Martin Guthrie have they removed free speech in this country now, being truthful is not racism.
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Craig Carrick Holsgrove I will stand my ground Martin. We are the minority that is now silenced. It is true that in the book they believe in is represented by a prophet that married a 6 of 7 year old. This gives the deranged a reason to believe that it is ok to rape children
Like ¡ 2 ¡ 29 August at 14:44
Caroline Queeny Bannon Im so sorry this has happened to you craig.
Like ¡ 1 ¡ 29 August at 14:54
Craig Carrick Holsgrove It's fine thanks Caroline. Goes to show what a toilet of a country we've become
Like ¡ 2 ¡ 29 August at 14:56
Rob Bellis Social media is no longer a safe place to air your views....I too have fallen prey to my loss of free speech....sorry to hear that your ability to provide for you and yours has been stripped due to the political correctness need to pander to scum
Like ¡ 2 ¡ 29 August at 15:20
Rehan Talreja i cant believe this happened in .....UK....?.......i mean isnt free speech a pillar on which democracy stands?
Like ¡ 1 ¡ 29 August at 17:45
Craig Carrick Holsgrove has been suspended from his job for saying he thinks Muslims are paedophiles and that's because we have no free speech....but wait, how are they able to write this if they have no free speech? No, dear Craig, the law says you can't go round whipping up hatred of minority groups by the use of libellous bullshit. How would he feel if some Muslim said he was a paedophile due to Jimmy Saville being white and a Christian?
Craig Holsgrove â@holsy84craig  6h
@RmSalih @TellMamaUK get Over yourselves. Playing the race card again. Shame on you all
Craig Holsgrove â@holsy84craig  6h @RmSalih @TellMamaUK Muslims are paedo's end off, the book says it's ok
Looking at the tweet (since removed) he does appear to be labouring under the false impression that the Qu'ran advocates paedophilia. It doesn't. In fact it would appear there are all sorts of things in the Qu'ran according to the EDL that a search reveals aren't actually in there. According to the EDL the Qu'ran even allows for having sex with goats! The EDL seem happy to accept baseless rumours as fact, so I suspect the ground upon which Mr. Holgrove intends to stand will collapse under his feet the moment he cites the Qu'ran as evidence.Â
We're peaceful!
I found this one particularly funny!
Oh no, they've taken his human rights away from him and are treating him like a terrorist or extremist! Please send money, because he's helped the cause in the past!
But wait....
So he's got 45 months inside for violent disorder at the EDL's Walsall demonstration. A bit violent ain't he?
And do this....
This....
This....
And this....
....make you think that he's anything other than a violent, racist maniac? Oh, and Mrs Schultz can forget about getting any help from the EDL, because they probably forgot about Richard Schultz the moment he got sent down.

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Remember how the EDL aren't Nazis? Well....
This blog entry all started with a picture on the EDL's main page....it's a doctored quote.
Being called racist or fascist makes the EDL squirm
The English Defence League are quite vocal about what they say they aren't, i.e. racists and Nazis. They really hate being called that, but the trouble is they keep contradicting this.
Their defences consist of:
1. Islam's not a race. However Judaism not being a race never stopped Hitler and "Muslim" is a euphemism for "Pakistani" in any case.
2. "We're not Nazis, we're patriots/nationalists!" The Nazis were both extremely patriotic and extremely nationalistic.
3. "Our grandfathers fought the Nazis!" So what? You aren't your grandfathers and Nazism or opposition to it isn't a genetically inherited condition. If it was most Germans would be Nazis!
4. They'll say the Mission Statement says they're not racist. That would be the Mission Statement that they themselves wrote. Like if ISIS had a mission statement saying they weren't violent....
5. They'll claim that Islam and Nazism/fascism are the same ideology and that Muslims are the real Nazis, despite the fact that one is extremely nationalistic and centres on a single culture and race; whereas the other ignores national borders and is multicultural and multi-ethnic. Thus they attempt to do a bit of role reversal and have you believe that the religious minority that the far right extremists want to wipe out, are the real Nazis.
6. They'll claim racism is a "made up word" and therefore carries no meaning. Here's news: all words are made up and that's pretty much an admission that their behaviour is racist.
7. In a couple of incidents - Tommy Robinson for one - the EDL have even claimed that fascism ceased to exist in 1945.
Their excuses are so ludicrous and vocal they merely add fuel to the fire.
The EDL forget the script
And when they forget it, man do they forget it! We are well accustomed to seeing the EDL write and say things that are totally racist and then then deny they ever said such things.
The EDL's history of the Second World War
The EDL basically either don't know history or don't get the lessons of history. Their account of Nazism contains elements of the following. We fought the Nazis in both world wars; Hitler allied himself with Islam (i.e. all Muslims); no Muslims fought for the Allies; if any Muslims fought for the Allies they were either forced to or were defending Mecca; the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a close friend of Hitler's and invented the Final Solution/gas chambers; the SS Handschar Division was their most feared division and killed most of the Jews in Yugoslavia; if your grandparents fought fascists that means your immune to becoming one yourself; the Muslims are worse than the Nazis; Hitler was a decent leader but he should've killed the Muslims instead of the Jews; Hitler would've been all right if he hadn't have gone to war with us; it's a shame the Nazis lost because there'd be no "ethnics"/Muslims in Britain now; we need a man like Hitler now; send the Muslims to the gas chambers.
The above paragraph is total bollocks
A lot of the above is morally wrong. As for the factual inaccuracies, well obviously we only fought the Nazis in WW2. Then there's the Grand Mufti, who only met Hitler once briefly in Berlin, was not influential on Nazi policy, the Final Solution was arrived at at the Wannsee Conference at which the Mufti wasn't present, Hitler viewed the Arabs as "painted half-apes", the Nazis had already killed hundreds of thousands of Jews and had started using Zyklon B gas in August 1941 before the Grand Mufti arrived in Berlin in November 1941, and the crematoria  were designed by Topf & Sons. He may have not opposed the Final Solution, but it would be silly to suggest that the Nazis actually required encouragement. The total number of Muslims in the SS barely got over 2% of its total strength, the SS's Muslim divisions suffered from high levels of desertion, and it was the Catholic Croatian Ustaťe (Croatian Nazis) who ran the death camps in Yugoslavia and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people, including Jews, Serbs, Gypsies and Muslims.
The Axis forces never threatened Mecca and the Indian Army, of which 800,000 out of 2.5 million soldiers were Muslims, was a 100% volunteer army.Â
Yes, indeed, the EDL know fuck all about the Second World War, apart from a few scant details that they have wildly elaborated on or reinterpreted.
No, scratch that. I'm crediting them with too much intelligence.
The EDL know fuck all about the Second World War, apart from a few scant details that other people have wildly elaborated on or reinterpreted for them. They combine a lack of critical thinking ability with ignorance and a penchant for believing any bullshit that suits them.
Deep down the EDL know they're like Nazis, but want to distance themselves from themÂ
So they invent all sorts of stupid reasons as to why they aren't, but at the same time let slip Nazi-like things about genocide, subhumans, etc. Well either that or they must be the stupidest fuckers who ever drew breath.
Without further ado....
Here is the above put into practice. https://www.facebook.com/238696516197018/photos/pb.238696516197018.-2207520000.1412512547./795587420507922/?type=1&permPage=1
A screen-cap for when the admins pull the thread. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2014/10/05/Hitler_misquote_and_EDL_admiration_for_Hitler.jpg
Their latest trick is to pretend Hitler himself was in fact a Muslim! A fine collection of Hitler-licking, conspiracy theories and utter nonsense it is too!
What he actually said is on page 65 of Mein Kampf.
 If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.
Eternal Nature inexorably avenges the infringement of her commands.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Yep, the same Marxists the EDL are always say run the country. In fact the very same Marxists the British far right have always claimed to be a Jewish conspiracy. Now Muslims are Enemy Number One and not the Jews, Marxism is part of some sort of Muslim plot to take over. Coincidence? Not bloody likely!
Now we have some examples of pure EDL bigotry, Hitler-licking and pure paranoid lunacy from the above thread.
I'm not a Nazi, but....
Ooh, Luke doesn't take criticism well!
Not holding back there, are you Elliot Felski?
See, Hitler's only vice was killing Jews and that was down to him being a failed artist! Him being a violent dictator, killing millions of other people and starting a world war was OK.
Ah, so him killing Jews was OK, but being over-ambitious when it came to enemies wasn't?Â
"Do some research" means "Read the same bullshit theories I did"
That's funny; Islam's only been around 1400 years and Israel 66 years.
Nazism and Islam are the same, the Kingdom of Israel never ended, we're all descended from Jews, the Nazis didn't want world domination, and Richard Mßller appears to be saying that there's some sort of secret truth about the Nazis that we are discouraged from knowing about.
Hitler was a kind, humble human being who did what he thought was right, was betrayed by his closest friends and has been slandered after his death. Aw, bless! He had no slaves? WTF!?
I'm not exactly sure what that says. Something about Hitler having a point: which point would that be?
I thought they weren't a race? Make your minds up!
How dare you call Mr. Hitler a Muslim! If he were around today he'd be very old indeed.
Mein Kampf is a great bedtime read
The Bromberg Massacre (now Bydgoszcz) happened on 3rd September 1939 (i.e. after the invasion), when retreating Polish troops were fired on by German agents and irregulars. The Nazis used it as propaganda of "Polish barbarism". He owns a copy of the Nazi bible, regurgitates Nazi propaganda and thinks it's a shame the Nazis didn't win the war: what do we think he is?Â
Yeah, because Waterstone's probably reckoned you're a neo-Nazi. Weren't wearing an EDL hoodie when you asked, were you?
History isn't our strong pointÂ
Muslims were allied to Hitler in the two world wars? Or is that a weird abbreviation of Second World War? If it's the latter it's broadly correct, however both of them ignore that Hitler was allied to many different non-Muslims and Muslims fought against Hitler.
He briefly met Hitler once, the Grand Mufti didn't help Hitler kill thousands of Jews, and his real motivation was his opposition to British rule in Palestine and Zionism. His anti-Semitism is only relevant from the point of view that he sided with Hitler, as other anti-Semites put their nations' interests first when their countries declared war on Germany. Everyone except Elvis Dali thinks the fake quote is real.Â
Hitler "liberated" Poland and Poland hardly fired a shot? That would be why the Poles held out for a month, the Germans committed atrocities against civilians and bombed Warsaw, and the Poles carried on fighting underground in huge numbers until the Red Army arrived in 1944. Hitler was taking back what had been "stolen" from Germany? Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Greece, Yugoslavia: none had territory taken from Germany after WWI. "Jew" history books? Russia needed invading because of the Bolsheviks? European countries presumably wanted to be occupied so much that they were happy to work as slave labour and be subject to genocide. More Nazi propaganda about the Polish military shooting down German civilian aeroplanes.Â
We'll believe any picture with a quote attributed to a famous person
Yep, some people are quite happy to believe dodgy quotes without bothering to check them up.
Just plain weird!
The Astors were Christians of German extraction, the Rockefellers were Protestants with German, English and Scots-Irish roots. The Manhattan Project did not use captured Nazi scientists and....well...I think the rest comes from watching too many films!Â
Alan Henning: The EDL's Reaction To His Murder
Do you want to know what sick is? The following. Alan Henning, a good man, was brutally murdered by the scum of ISIL. What was the EDL reaction? This.
A link to the image:Â http://oi62.tinypic.com/68vscz.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/DEBATEUNPLUGGED/posts/776294785726639?comment_id=776598935696224&offset=0&total_comments=14
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17 September at 09:58 ¡
It's turns out the British hostage Alan Henning is a well intentioned idiot who was helping out militant Islamists.
Alan Henning did not know of aid charity's alleged 'militant links'
Father-of-two Mr Henning, from Eccles, Salford, was seized by jihadists in Syria while attempting to deliver aid and now faces death at the hands of ISIS...
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Infidel defence league added 4 new photos.
Not wanting to speculate. However this picture shows the most recent victim-to-be 'Alan Henning', a Manchester taxi driver who went on an unofficial aid convoy with a Muslim charity to Syria, so he could help Muslim refugees. Something smells a bit fishy....
Can you spot it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2755705/Find-s-late-He-s-Manchester-taxi-driver-went-Syria-help-refugees-Now-s-facing-death-hands-Jihadi-John.html
17 September at 10:09 ¡ Like ¡ 1
John Andy Hand His problem. Fuck him.
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Unplugged Debate (Renovate Animos) It is quite clear that he would have protested that they were moderate Muslims before he was kidnapped.
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Darren Adamson Were there not enough Muslims for him in Eccles to play with ?
17 September at 14:18 ¡ Like ¡ 2
Darren Adamson Racist muslims dont know the difference between lefty shit knockers and respectable Nationalists, all they see is White man and they hate him.
17 September at 14:38 ¡ Like ¡ 4
Stuart Hamilton Reminds me of those women who went to Africa to be do-gooders and got acid thrown in their face - sometimes when you learn a lesson it is to late
17 September at 14:56 ¡ Like ¡ 2
Stephanie Mitchell I had doubts about this one too. Doesnt he work as a taxi driver for some muslim boss
17 September at 16:40 ¡ Like
Unplugged Debate (Renovate Animos) That's possible.
17 September at 16:42 ¡ Like
Stephanie Mitchell I heard somewhere he worked for a muslim taxi firm
17 September at 16:53 ¡ Like ¡ 1
John Swales Typical dhimmi.
17 September at 17:12 ¡ Like
Unplugged Debate (Renovate Animos) and his daft BROTHER was quoting the Koran about how peaceful Muslims are when his sibling is gonna lose his head
17 September at 17:18 ¡ Like ¡ 1
Stuart Anderson Daz he works for us he got taken just after christmas and the government are saying ir arace against time they have known for 9 months and told the family to say nothing he should have stayed its his own fault a moronic thing to do funny how they knew the camp where he would be before he got there and why didnt they take any of the british asians who went with him
18 September at 02:41 ¡ Like
Stuart Anderson No he doesnt work for a muslim boss but he does rent a car of a muslim
18 September at 02:43 ¡ Like ¡ 1
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Far Left British aid worker Alan Henning beheaded by ISIS brute 'Jihadi John'...
BREAKING NEWS: British ISIS hostage Alan Henning 'beheaded'
www.dailymail.co.uk
A video purporting to show the beheading of British aid working Alan Henning by ISIS militants in Syria has been posted online. At the end of the footage, American war veteran Peter Kassig is shown.
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Darren Adamson He wont be going back there in a hurry.
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Unplugged Debate (Renovate Animos) I have little sympathy...
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Sumit Singh Sandal You have little sympathy...that makes sense, unfortunately.
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Paul Broadfield he was according to the headline "far left" ...a strong message to left wingers !
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Darren Adamson i find it hard, these are the kind of do gooders that have a burning hatred for nationalists and call us all racists. No sympathy here.
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Unplugged Debate (Renovate Animos) He meant well - I get that - but he was a well meaning idiot...
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Stephanie Mitchell Pull all westerners out of the whole of the middle east and level it . Worlds problems solved
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John Swales He's one of the use full idiots we warned the far left about.
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Sumit Singh Sandal Level it? I wondered when you'd come up with a sensible idea Stephanie Mitchell.
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Darren Adamson The same as all the arse lickers here who will be in the firing line when they turn on our streets.
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Stephanie Mitchell Theres no harm in voicing what many think
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The original title of the article was "British aid worker Alan Henning beheaded by ISIS brute 'Jihadi John'...", there being NO mention of his political affiliations whatsoever in the article. I believe there is grounds for libel there and possibly glorification of terrorism in the comments. Lee Rigby got beheaded by Islamic extremists and the EDL went berserk, saying he was a slain hero. Alan Henning gets beheaded by Islamic extremists and the EDL say HE was an extremist and brought it on himself. Both men risked their lives doing their respective jobs in the Middle East. The difference? Presumably it comes down to Lee Rigby being a soldier and fighting Muslims, and Alan Henning being an aid worker and helping Muslims. Because in the English Defence League's fucked up universe Muslims are all evil, so killing them is good and doing charitable work with them is bad.
Seeing as they've decided to trash Mr. Henning simply because he was helping people they have a psychopathic hatred of and because his murder will be trending higher than anything else in the UK tomorrow, their names will be tagged with his name on this blog. Â Fuck the sick bastards.
ANDREW EDGE: A PORTRAIT OF A FANATIC
  Andrew Edge. Why is it all EDL supporters resemble the aliens from the film Hangar 18?Â
Is there some sort of top secret government cloning tank that produces them? They all seem to think and act the same way too, like they had one mind!
A Bad Lad (Allegedly)Â
Anyway it seems Andrew Edge is facing prison: https://www.facebook.com/andrew.edge.1426/posts/326771527503041?fref=nf
 A nice screen-cap in case the thread mysteriously vanishesâŚ.Â
http://postimg.org/image/fbghhl5uj/
Phew! What A Loony!
His own words:
Andrew Edge
5 hrs ¡
this time in a week from now i start a four day trial in birmingham crown court with my fellow edl lions im about to lose my home my family my business becauz were goin to be fitted up by west midlands police and our corrupt goverment my barristers telling me to expect 3/4 yrs ffs ..but you know what its all been worth it to stand with my edl family and to make a stand against islam dnt get me wrong im gona miss my kids and grandkids but my home and business i can build again ...the way i see it sumone as to stand up to muslims tryna over run our country and make us live under sharia law how am i supposed to just sit back and say or do nothing wen pakistani men are raping our children i carnt!! thats not me i will stand and fight for my country for our customs and my beleifs i dnt want halal meat forced dwn my throat i dont want arranged marriages and under age sex its all totally wrong and against our countrys laws ..but our corrupt goverment are happy to turn a blind eye ...WELL guess wat im fakin not and i refuse to thats why im a proud footsoldier of the EDL and while ill always will be they can throw me in prison and throw away the key but ill never change my views the days islam attacked lee rigby on the streets of our capital city was in my eyes the day i went to war and i will continue to be at war until the last muslim as left our lands im sat watching channel 4 news writing this there interveiwing muslims in rusholme manchester there sayin how britain shud not join america in bombing isis ffs !!" wel i say fuck you u horrible cunts i hope we blow them all to smithereans ther fukin barbaric evil paedos in my eyes and they disgust me and always will ..to all my edl family keep up the good fight caus ur the only people who giv me and my country any kind of hope ...wen i do get sent dwn i wil open a edl prison division and will sumhow keep in touch with all u brave men and angels cauz in my eyes ur all good down to earth people the backbone of our country so remember NFSE to islam stay loud and proud and respect to u all E E EDL til day i die ...plz like and share so amany patriots
 Edge considers himself a foot-soldier at war with Islam, prepared to lose his family and his livelihood for his beliefs, which involve forcing Islam from this country.
Now if the last sentence actually read, âEdge considers himself a foot-soldier at war for Islam, prepared to lose his family and his livelihood for his beliefs, which involve forcing Islam on this countryâ, the media would doubtless be having a field day.
He is an intolerant fanatic who sees violence as a means to an end and sees a specific incident as an excuse to behave this way. The same as Islamist fanatics in fact. Hamas say pretty much the same thing about how theyâll be at war until every last Jew has left Israel/Palestine, yet everyone accepts them as fanatical extremists whereas the EDL are âpatriotsâ.
  We Woz Set Up!
As usual we have the EDL claiming they were âfitted upâ by the police and our âcorrupt governmentâ. Itâs apparently all some big conspiracy against the EDL in order to silence them and protect Muslims, who according to people like Andrew Edge are paedophiles and terrorists who are taking over.
Why non-Muslim politicians would happily protect such people, who according to the EDL will eventually kill them, is anyoneâs guess. The usual explanation is that itâs either a conspiracy between hardcore communists (that includes David Cameron!) and ultra-zealous Islamists, or that the âleftiesâ (anyone who doesnât spend their entire existence hating Muslims) are too stupid to notice that every last single Muslim is engaged in a holy war to take over the UK. In all cases anyone who doesnât like the EDL and similar extremists is considered to support paedophilia and terrorism.
 Yes, most conspiracy theories are built on mindless bullshit when you think about it.
Reality vs Bullshit
Hereâs what himself and eight other EDL supporters were charged with on 25th February 2014: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-edl-riot-nine-court-6745053
 To give you some idea just how much the EDL were âfitted upâ, sixteen men have already pleaded guilty: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/edl-rally-birmingham-sixteen-men-7154286
 £150,000 worth of damage to an office block and ÂŁ6000 damage to a sign: the EDLâs violent disorder was not exactly a figment of West Midlands Policeâs imagination.
In fact here we have the EDL being violent in Birmingham on 20th July 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcH8RTDWR38
The stupid thing is the EDL know that they are violent. Videos of them show them enjoying being violent and they brag about being violent on social media sites, such as Facebook. Until they get put on trial and then they say they were "fitted up" and deny any association with the EDL in court. Both childish and cowardly when you think about it.
  Edge And His EDL Friends Are Deluded Twats
Looking through the responses to his post you can see a shared hatred of Muslims, a shared belief in a conspiracy by the authorities, a disbelief that he could be violent despite his statement that he is a soldier at war with Islam, two of his fellow defendants one of whom has already pleaded guilty, a misplaced belief that Edge has actually accomplished something of note by his actions including the removal of Shaun Wright, a misplaced belief that the British authorities are pro-Muslim, a misplaced belief that Edge is being locked up for being a âpatriotâ, a misplaced belief that Muslim paedophiles/terrorists get away with everything, and confusion as to why the British public are allowing the authorities to behave in the way the EDL believe theyâre behaving.
 A Few Conclusions
The simple fact is that the EDL did not bother to make any great fuss when the Rotherham case broke in 2010 (5 men were convicted for sexual offences against children) and have only made a real fuss now that it is big news. In what way does protesting help 1400 victims of rape and sexual abuse, when the case is already firmly in the public eye and further publicity is superfluous?
Andrew Edge accomplished absolutely nothing noteworthy by camping outside Rotherham Police Station for a couple of weeks. He did not go on hunger strike, his protest was barely mentioned outside of EDL/anti-EDL circles, and Shaun Wright resigned after the EDL had packed up and gone home.
Andrew Edge is facing 3 to 4 years in prison for allegedly being involved in EDL violence in Birmingham, something that they did do beyond doubt, and not because of any insignificant beliefs he may hold. Andrew Edge believes whatever crap he likes; meanwhile the world keeps turning.
The authorities are not pro-Muslim. Their incompetence as regards to preventing the sexual exploitation of children and them not having an open hatred of Muslims does not make them pro-Muslim.
The British public donât need the EDL to tell them about sexual abuse in Rotherham or in fact anything. They can find out such information themselves. Also they do not need to descend in an angry mob on a town in order to care about the sexual abuse of children.
Andrew Edge states various things about Muslims that make you realise that he has a high exposure to anti-Muslim indoctrination. This includes his belief that Muslims are treated as exempt from UK laws, even though that is untrue, and that Edge and people like him must go to war with them to stop it. The very idea that all Muslim criminals get automatically get let off is a joke, especially as the EDL themselves frequently publish newspaper articles about convicted Muslim criminals and there were in fact 5 convictions for the Rotherham case (see above).
Andrew Edge mentions âPakistani men raping our childrenâ as a motivation for him, so itâs apparent that race not religion is the issue there. Is he therefore cool with white men raping white children? We havenât seen him threaten to starve himself to death over cases where hundreds of children have been sexually abused by white adults, so draw your own conclusions.
The only time the EDL has protested or shown any collective concern over any of their supporters going to prison was when Tommy Robinson was locked up when he was still their leader. Anyone else, forget it. If convicted, Andrew Edge will be forgotten about by the rest of the EDL as soon as heâs put inside; like a child kept in detention is forgotten about by the other children when they go out to play.
 Barmy Andy
The aptly-named Andrew Edge has quite plainly gone over the edge of fanaticism, and he and his fellow fanatics see nothing wrong in what they say. They really donât think like normal people. What sort of normal person thinks that having a riot and smashing up a city centre is the best way to serve your country, and almost casually is prepared to lose their family and livelihood by being sent to prison for years?
Andrew Edge....or is it Uncle Fester?
 They all truly believe his actions have some real meaning, as if him camping outside a police station made a difference. In fact all heâll be if heâs convicted is some loser who camped outside a police station for two weeks and was ignored, and who also got involved in a riot and got sent to prison as a result. No great loss. The world keeps turning.
DO THE FAR RIGHT ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE EXISTENCE OF GROOMING GANGS?
The EDL, NF, BNP, NWI, BF and the whole roguesâ gallery of far-right acronyms have all descended upon Rotherham, for a patriotic dick-swinging contest to see who can exploit hundreds of sexually abused children the most.Â
 Any excuse is good when it comes to a spot of âPaki-bashingâ, especially when itâs the thought of white kids being sexually abused by swarthy, brown-skinned men. Of course they are only assuming the children were all a) white and b) girls. If it was white men doing this or they didnât think the children were white, you can guarantee that all this mob would be sat at home watching football at the weekend.
 This ranty-but-boring bloke from the Bolton and Spalding EDL Division is going on about travelling to Rotherham to protect his children (assuming he has any), who presumably are in Lincolnshire, against Muslim paedophile gangs in South Yorkshire.
http://tinypic.com/r/auvz3b/8
Children in Lincolnshire are threatened by paedophiles in South Yorkshire? Look mate, if youâre so worried about your childrenâs future, then why are you leaving them and buggering off to another part of the country? Surely staying at home with your kids would be better for their safety and future? Think about it.
 âThe authorities wonât do anything, so weâre the last chance!â
If the authorities arenât going to do anything, what exactly is the demo going to achieve? Demos are supposed to bring pressure on the authorities to do stuff, so it makes you wonder why heâs bothering if he doesnât think it will work. Presumably he thinks this demo will magically make the grooming gangs vanish, drop dead or have some other magic effect. Or maybe heâs just plain stupid.
 Slagging off your own supporters is probably not going to inspire them much either, especially accusing them of being paedophiles for not going to Rotherham. As if going to Rotherham was necessary to prove ones non-paedophile credentials. As he talks of them being on their keyboards a lot, itâs tempting to think that maybe thatâs all the Bolton and Spalding EDL Division is, with Mr. Boring Rant Man being its only genuine real world activist.
 The EDL are always saying how theyâre defending their âchildren and grandchildrenâs futuresâ, because otherwise theyâll be raped, beheaded, genitally mutilated and forced to wear burqas or something (not necessarily in that order). The grandchildren, and sometimes the children, are theoretical in most cases anyway and donât exist.
                Because camping outside a cop shopâŚ.           Â
 Having a barbecueâŚ.
 Drinking beerâŚ.
       And pissing up walls is a good way to a) defend your children who may be hundreds of miles away and b) sympathise with 1400 sexually abused kids.
 But hey, if they thought those kids had been murdered then it would be mankini and pig mask time!
The EDL keeping it classy in Blackpool for Charlene DownesÂ
And how can the likes of Andrew Edge afford to take a couple of weeks off work on what mustâve been a spur of the moment decision? How did he persuade his employers to give him the time off or, if heâs self-employed, how can he afford to lose the work? If heâs on working benefits he has to make himself available for work, which he isnât, and if heâs on sickness/disability benefits, isnât sleeping rough in a tent in all weathers something that someone who has a long-term health condition would want to avoid? This isnât just him remember, it is several individuals, so how are they managing this?
As Iâve not seen him declare that heâs ended his hunger strike, after 2 weeks he shouldâve lost a massive amount of weight compared to this photo above. If this strike carries on for another few weeks, bearing in mind he says in writing that he'll go on until Shaun Wright resigns, we can expect him to die of starvation. If however he still looks the same, he isn't dead and still pretends he was on hunger strike, then he's a bullshitter. Of course if he admits to not going through with it, then we can tell that it was just piss and wind, like all EDL threats. The thing is with the previous EDL hunger strike it lasted 24 hours (until Tommy got hungry!), but was claimed to have lasted a week, so we can do doubt expect the same here. EDL hunger strikes like all of their politics totally fall short of all their boasts, and revolve around alcohol and bacon! Â Â
 They also plonked themselves outside the police station in Rotherham, despite the Police and Crime Commissioner for South Yorkshire (Shaun Wright being the man theyâre after) being based at 18 Regent Street, Barnsley, about 13 miles away.
Andy Edge is EDL, obviously. Like Mr. Boring Rant Man, Andy Edge says anyone who doesnât support him is a paedophile. Â
  The EDL and many other far-right organisations level that very same accusation against anyone who opposes them on their demos.
 Oh dear, the other far-right organisations are trying to muscle in on the EDLâs prime location grief tourism campsite!
This is David Gorton, former supporter of the non-racist EDLâs Blackburn DivisionâŚ.
 âŚ.Who now sympathises with the white supremacist National Front and has become a member of the neo-Nazi NWI. Note the neo-Nazi 14W (14 Words) slogan on his T-shirt.
He looks like Frankenstein's Monster in a wedding dress!
They have thus declared their opposition to the EDL and anyone opposing a âpatrioticâ group supports paedophiles, so surely that means the NF, BNP, NWI, BF and all the rest of them support paedophiles?
 The EDL must support paedophiles too, because they object to the presence of other âpatrioticâ groups protesting about paedophiles. Oh dear, oh dear!
But then again news about Muslim paedophiles and the threat of Muslim paedophiles seems to be what fuels these groups, which is why they are buzzing around Rotherham like flies around shit. So in a sense thatâs right: they support the existence of kiddy fiddlers.
  Thanks to EDL News for the photos.
8,000 Men of Pakistani Origin?
There appears to be a trend now, especially on English Defence League pages, of stating that there were 8,000 men of Pakistani origin involved in the rape and sexual abuse of 1,400 children. I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to support such a high figure, although I suspect it will now become part of EDL lore like all the other rubbish "FACTS" they believe in.Â
Here's the story linked on the EDL page shown in the screen-capture above: http://news.sky.com/story/1324952/horrific-cases-of-child-abuse-in-rotherhamÂ
'Horrific' Cases Of Child Abuse In Rotherham
Rotherham Council's leader quits after a highly critical report finds officials failed to protect 1,400 children over 16 years.
6:21pm UK, Tuesday 26 August 2014
By Becky Johnson, North of England Correspondent
More than 1,400 children were sexually exploited in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, a report has concluded.
The abuse of youngsters, some just 11 years old, has been described as "horrific" and "not confined to the past but continues to this day".
One victim told Sky News she was sexually exploited by "hundreds" of men and authorities did nothing to stop them.
Roger Stone, leader of Rotherham Council, has stepped down over the damning report.
Council leader Roger Stone
"I believe it is only right that I, as leader, take responsibility on behalf of the council for the historic failings that are described so clearly in the report and it is my intention to do so," he said.
In the summary of her findings, Professor Alexis Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that the victims suffered.
"They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated.
"There were examples of children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made witness to brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone.
"Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of male perpetrators."
A Number 10 spokesman described the failings of local agencies as "appalling" and said the attackers need to be brought to justice.
Chief executive Martin Kimber says there will be no sackings at the council
South Yorkshire Police issued an "unreserved apology" to victims and said "we fully acknowledge our previous failings".
The report highlights a variety of serious child protection failings and concludes the council and other agencies should have done more to protect those at risk.
However, Rotherham Council Chief Executive Martin Kimber said no council officers will face disciplinary action.
"Officers in senior positions responsible for children's safeguarding services throughout the critical periods when services fell some way short of today's standards do not work for the council today," he said.
"To that extent, I have not been able to identify any issues of professional practice related to current serving officers of this council that would require me to consider use of disciplinary or capability procedures."
Professor Jay presents her report
In just over a third of cases, victims were previously known to services in the South Yorkshire town.
The report says there was a series of failings including poor leadership from senior managers in child protection services and a perceived "lack of interest" in, and understanding of, grooming as a model of child abuse.
Victims were not heard or believed and there was a perception that a "macho and bullying" culture within the council prevented child sexual exploitation from being properly discussed.
There was "denial" that such events could happen in Rotherham and issues of ethnicity were "played down" by senior managers.
"Almost all" the abusers were described by victims as being of Pakistani origin, but authorities "wanted to play down ethnic dimensions... for fear of being thought racist."
The spotlight first fell on Rotherham in 2010 when five men, described as "sexual predators", were given lengthy jail terms for grooming teenage girls for sex.
The prosecution was the first of a series of high-profile cases in the last four years that have revealed the exploitation of young girls in areas including Rochdale, Derby and Oxford.
No mention of "8,000 men of Pakistani origin" in the entire article, in fact no exact figure is given. It appears that they have taken the entire Pakistani heritage population of Rotherham - men, women and children - made them all men and made them all complicit in the crime. That's totally in keeping with the EDL practice of collective blame/punishment, something of course that never applies to them when one of theirs commits a crime.

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Rotherham
It is very difficult to adequately convey in words the feelings that are stirred up by the information that 1,400 children were sexually abused by gangs of paedophiles in Rotherham and the authorities did nothing to stop it. Understanding why they did this is not really something I believe is worth exploring in any depth, because there was a simple moral choice between saving children from sexual abuse or avoiding what they claim was the threat of being accused of being racist. If they knew what was happening and action was taken to stop it, how could they then be accused of racism that would imply they were making false accusations on the grounds of race? Maybe it was more complicated than that, but in any case the behaviour of the authorities amounts to cowardice.
If the authorities were acting cowardly, then the gloating from the likes of the English Defence League can only be described as vile and deeply disturbing. Their entire response to the case has been one of attention-seeking and a desire to prove that they are right, added to their obvious need for an excuse to attack Muslims and Pakistanis. When cases of paedophile gangs formed of mostly Asian suspects come to light, the EDL and their ilk firstly claim there's a media blackout (with ongoing trials the media can't release details) and behave as if they themselves were the only source of information, even though they get their information from the media in the first place. Then they protest outside the court where the trial is being held, as if to try and influence the verdict. When the North West Infidels did this outside Liverpool Crown Court they almost caused a mistrial (their presence couldn't guarantee that the defendants would get a fair trial) and what were men guilty of child sex abuse, would've been found not guilty and released on a legal technicality. Afterwards they brag about how they were right and use the trial as an excuse to racially abuse Pakistanis, religiously abuse Muslims and try and score political points over anti-fascists by falsely accusing them of defending paedophiles. There's a world of difference between counter-protesting against a bunch of fascists looking for some free publicity and protesting in defence of paedophiles. Itâs as if not collectively hating all Muslims and Pakistanis amounts to not detesting certain Pakistani and Muslim individuals.
A similar pattern was on display last year with Lee Rigby's murder. After he was murdered, the police had secured the area and the media were covering everything, the EDL turned up and attacked the police. But why? There was absolutely no reason for them to be there: the police had taken the suspects away and the media had broken the story to the world. But the EDL will no doubt claim, as they always do, that they were "defending the streets from Islamic extremists", the police "are in bed with Islam", the media "won't tell the truth" and so presumably the EDL had to come to the scene of the murder to "wake everyone up" to what had happened. And of course have a pointless fight with the police, pose in front of the TV cameras and generally act as if they were important in some way. Despite the murder being a major story in the media for several months afterwards, right up to and including the trial, the EDL were of the opinion that if it wasn't for them Lee Rigby would've been forgotten. Then there was the trial and themselves and the BNP turned up outside the court for no apparent reason, other to demand the non-existent death penalty and moon at the TV cameras.
If we look at their Facebook main page we can see that the EDL actually thrive on stories of Muslims raping, murdering and committing other serious crimes. It fuels and supposedly justifies the EDL's hatred of Muslims/Pakistanis and gives them the excuse they need to do their demos, which are nothing more than events to boost the egos of people with very low self esteem. Demos make them feel like they are important: "Look Mum, I'm on the telly!" If they get to do a march through the streets, well, that's even better because everyone can see them then and they can pretend they're soldiers at a parade. The English Defence League is the Jeremy-Kyleisation of activism.
They are totally silent on cases not involving gangs of Asian or Muslim paedophiles.
A further two men have been arrested in the last week over the child sexual abuse scandal that went on North Welsh care homes in the 70s and 80s. There are currently 283 people under investigation. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/north-wales-child-abuse-inquiry-7659247 The EDL have not commented on this and the names of the latest two suspects suggest why not.
They were also silent on Jimmy Savile, Stuart Hall, Max Clifford and Rolf Harris, when Savile alone had hundreds of victims. Combined with the EDL's off-stated hatred of "Muslims" (because Muslims can be any colour, this probably means Pakistanis) raping white women, we can conclude that the EDL is not interested in the victims, but only in the race or religion of the perpetrators.
The Rotherham case has now presented the EDL with another such excuse to be in the public eye (they've organised a demo after the case is closed) and for them to gloat about being right. Looking at their "Unplugged" Facebook group we can see that they are positively revelling in the outcome, throwing racial abuse around, challenging anti-fascists to come and eat humble pie, and even making a game of falsely accusing anti-fascists of defending Muslim paedophile gangs. Some of the posts almost read like Oscar speeches with their lists of names that the EDL deem responsible.Â
The fate of the 1400 sexually abused children doesn't seem to come into this and the fact they were sexually abused almost seems to be a cause for celebration for the EDL, as it means they can do a bit of point scoring against everyone they don't like.Â
I'd rather not be commenting about this awful crime in relation to the EDL, as it will merely give them something more to squawk about and really it's beneath my dignity to speak about the EDL and sexually abused children in the same blog. However as they seem to be mistaking everyone else's dignified silence on the matter as a sign of humiliation, I thought a few things needed saying.
Where's the money, errm, anyone? Hel Gower confirms EDL cash went missing.
Posting on the now anti-EDL (yeah) facebook page EDL English Defence League Support Group, Tommy Robinson's PA, and director of English Defence League Limited, Hel Gower, has confirmed that money donated by supporters, and raised by merchandise, which we were long convinced was being siphoned off, has indeed been pocketed by, well, someone. "As for the tax issue I wouldnât even go down that route lad. I have enough proof that I was never involved in the Finance side of EDL and that ROâs always have been the ones in charge of it and donât forget by ROâs that means the Committee including you in the past tense. I had one spreadsheet that I did when Tommy/Kev left EDL and closed the Paypal a/c that had been managed by ROâs and I pointed out the shortfall in money and what did the ROâs say, including yourself, drop it donât tell anyone!!! Iâve also got the allegations from Bolton where he âallegedâ Dave McKenna had stolen money/merchandise and again the Committee said drop it, then there was Big J and the money that he took, shall I go on? all swept under the carpet and never revealed to the supporters of the EDL, why was that? Whilst it would be an inconvenience to me if I was investigated by HMRC I know I have enough proof of who was in charge of monies/merchandise throughout my course of time with the EDL, even now they use an ROâs bank account or did. Iâm sure it would be more of an inconvenience to ROâs past and present to also be investigated after all your run by a bankrupt and benefit scroungers and all their accounts would be frozen as well whilst being investigated. Plus the person that now does merchandise and gives 50% to EDL would have to be investigated and have to prove his books are all legit so donât give that threat out because it would really be more of a hassle to you lot then me and where are the accounts for the 50% held?" Hel Gower.
In a lengthy argument with former EDL organiser, Tony Curtis, the one thing that is clear is that money went missing. As for who the culprit was, Hel blames the RO's past and present, and Tony thinks it was Growler, Uncle Kev and Tommy:-
Tony Curtis You forget Hel-i KNOW the truth
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EDL English Defence League Support Group you know nothing you never have, just like to make out you do to stroke yr ego
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Tony Curtis You would be surprised Hel-i was Tommy closest confidant and you would be surprised what he told me especially when drunk-so how are you going to explain the missing money to the supporters then?
And:-
Tony Curtis Tim told me that whatever goes in Tommy and Kev take it out again-and when i said that money belonged the supporters and they had no right to take it and that from now on nothing goes out without our (the committees) say say so tim replied 'tommy and kev won;t like that'-to which i replied well i will tell them myself then-i have witnesses to that conversation-but then you wouldn't know as you weren't invited were you?
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Well, whoever was directly responsible, everyone involved seems to have known it was happening. The EDL are dead, but it would only seem fair that some kind of investigation should take place into exactly whose pockets all the cash poor, unsuspecting mugs spent on hoodies and facemasks ended up.
The full screenshot can be seen here http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/822/2408217405.png
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Julie Blackadder and Janie Munchkin Jones
Murphyâs Bore
In my experience the far-Right comes in two types.
Category A: grunting, snarling illiterate morons whose eyes seem to about to disappear under the weight of their brows and whose pleasures in life involve drinking and attacking brown people/the police/each other. A typical conversation by them reads something like, âim a edl soldya!!!! n im gonna fkn kil ya trayta!!!!â, so you give them a bone and pat them on the headâŚ.well, sort of.
 Category B: swivel-eyed crackpots of the Pamela Geller School, who can actually string sentences together, but whose output seems to consist of blogging paranoid rants about Muslims and secret conspiracies that try and silence anyone who criticises Islam. They just know Muslims are collectively up to no good, so they see cover-ups everywhere, and believe liberals and Marxists control the government, the media, the police, etc. âYou think the Daily Mail is a Marxist newspaper and it wonât criticise Muslims? Yeah buddy, you keep taking your pills and no, I donât need to take the red pill.â
 I came across this fine example of Category B tin-foil-hattery.
 http://theenglishdefenceleagueextra.blogspot.com/2013/06/did-muslims-fight-for-britain-in-both.html
 First of all, to announce its totally biased approach, it uses this picture, not that there's anything wrong with the sentiment expressed in the picture.
  Then it proceeds from what is frankly a completely false assumption.
Only it is actually quite clear how big the contribution was.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/nov/05/muslim-soldiers-first-world-war
âOf the 1.3 million Indians who constituted the volunteer force during the first world war, approximately 400,000 were Muslims.â
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/03/us-britain-security-muslims-idUSTRE5621PL20090703
 âIndia's army grew from 200,000 in 1939 to 2.5 million in 1945, with Muslims making up about a third of the numbers at any one time. Most Muslim recruits came from what is now Pakistan.â
 Well that was easy: 1.2 million Indian Muslims fought for the British in the two world wars and I found that in seconds. Why did anyone fight for us for that matter? Itâs a silly question, but more on that later.
 Not many Muslims fought for the British? Try over 1,200,000 from India, which doesnât include the ones from Africa and the Middle East. Remind me: who exactly was T.E. Lawrence leading into battle? An outright assumption that well over a million Muslims decided to fight for Britain when they had no loyalty to the people they were fighting for. What is that based on?Â
So is Christianity for that matter.Â
Galatians 3:28 âThere is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.â
Apparently then Muslims have no love for their own countries and thereâs no such thing as a Muslim nation-state!
The quote, â[Muslims] should fight for the Ummah; not for the nation stateâ, does not relate to anything I can find. The only examples of it all come from this article in its various reproductions, i.e. it appears to be a made up quote, probably created by the articleâs author, Paul Austin Murphy, in order to prove his point.Â
Considering that Murphy does not appear to be reiterating anything, has apparently falsified his own evidence and gives no examples of what the âmany Muslimsâ say, we can safely assume that the actual reason he is saying this is to slag off Muslims. Indeed, this little bit, âYou would hardly expect anything else from Muslimsâ, utterly destroys any pretence of him being unbiased.
Moving on to the next sectionâŚ.
Yeah, well weâve already covered this. The Sikh contribution actually came in third place after Hindus and Muslims as it happens: 130,000 in World War I and 300,000 in World War II.
Murphy is assuming, despite the absence of any evidence, that there were hardly any Muslims in the Indian Army because the Metro doesnât give numbers.
So his entire argument for there being âvery fewâ Muslims in the Indian Army is his single source (the Metro) not mentioning actually how many Muslims were in the Indian Army. I donât know why based on the evidence heâs presented that this supposed lack of Muslim contribution was so clear to him.
Yes, but then again by that same measure there is not a single reference to the numbers of Hindus and Sikhs either, but the author doubtlessly would tell you that far more Sikhs were in the Indian Army than Muslims, which isnât in fact true.
Which is really rich coming from the very same people who insist that any suspect wanted by the police who is described as being Asian; is in fact a Muslim and should be described as such even when their religion is unknown. Even more ironic is the author objecting to positive generalisations of Muslims when he himself is making negative generalisations!Â
Weâve already covered the numbers, so no further comment needed here.
This is a pointless and deliberately misleading paragraph. It says that because the Ottoman Empire was virtually the only Muslim state, Muslims either fought on the side of non-Muslim states or the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire was one of the Central Powers, as were the German Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire, who were both non-Muslim states.
Any Muslim fighting on the on the side of the Ottoman Empire would also be on the side of Germany and Austro-Hungary. See, pointless. Â
Wrong! The Indian Army in the Second World War was the largest volunteer army ever seen. Muslims fought in the Indian Army because they wanted to. Saying they had a choice between being soldiers and not being soldiers is extremely stupid, as the same could also apply to both Hindus and Sikhs. In fact as India didnât have conscription and Britain did, Indian Muslims fought because they wanted to and vast numbers of Christian Britons fought because they were made to.
Aha, so having criticised the Metro for conflating Muslims with Indians, the author proceeds to do precisely that himself for his own ends! The Legion Freies Indien AKA Infanterie-Regiment 950 (indisches), was founded by Subhas Chandra Bose: a Hindu. There was actually a smaller percentage of Indian Muslims in the Legion Freies Indien than there was in the Indian Army.
(Hartog, Rudolf (2001). The Sign of the Tiger: Subhas Chandra Bose and His Indian Legion in Germany, 1941â45, p. 7) "Compared to the distribution in the Indian Army in the Classification Lists, where the Muslims were 34 per cent, the Hindus 41 per cent, the Sikhs 11 per cent and the Gurkhas and other races 14 per cent, this points to the fact that in the Indian Legion there were most Hindus and Sikhs and fewer Muslims than in the Indian Army."
 Oops, that attempt at further heaping dishonour on Muslims backfired!
Iâve no idea what the random asterisk at the beginning referred to. Thereâs no note at the bottom of the page and it plus the parenthesis were detached from the previous paragraph..
 Anyway, on to the next section we goâŚ.
 None of which is actually untrue as it happens. Oh, but hang on, I thought that it was "not quite clear how big" the Muslim contribution to Britain's war efforts was and it was "clear that of those â1 million troops in the Indian armyâ, very few of them would have been Muslims". Muslims were 40% of the Indian Army in WWI using the information Murphy himself has provided! I wonder how many times he's been knocked down crossing the street, because he thought it was "clear"?
It only sounded as if Bunglawala was talking about British Muslims, but he didnât actually state that and when Bungawala said Muslims fighting for the British Empire/Commonwealth he only meant Indian Muslims, did he? Thatâs a big assumption.
 OK, so Bunglawala was talking about Muslims who fought for Britain in the world wars, which could be several different groups of people including Arabs, Malays and Kenyans, but which Murphy immediately interprets as being Muslims in the British Indian Army. Then he suggests Bunglawala âgave the game awayâ by mentioning British promises to Muslims over the Levant. It does not appear to have occurred to Murphy that when Inayat Bunglawala was talking about the Muslims who were fighting for us that he was talking about Arabs, not Indians. The obvious clue is the author mentioning that Bunglawala spoke of promises made by the British to Muslims about Palestine, Iraq and Syria. Why would the British be making such promises to Indian Muslims? The British also made promises to Jews at the same time, which in conjunction with their promises to the Arabs properly cocked up the Levant.
 Seriously it seems that to Murphy âMuslimâ equals âMuslim Indianâ and that every last Muslim Indian wouldnât have fought for the British if theyâd have known about the Balfour Declaration, which had absolutely nothing to do with India! And all of this is based entirely on Murphyâs assumption that Bunglawala was talking about Muslim Indians and not Muslim Arabs. Yes, thatâs how nonsensical this is! Â
 He apparently makes the foolish error of believing that the regionalised modern conflict between Arabs and Israelis; is a part of a global hatred of Jews by Muslims stretching back into antiquity, which isnât in fact the case.
To put it simply, Muslim Arabs fighting for the British against the Ottoman Empire received certain assurances over Palestine, Iraq and Syria regarding their future autonomy. Then the British promised the Zionists that thereâd also be a Jewish homeland in Palestine, which conflicted with the promises made to the Arabs. The Arabs probably wouldnât have sided with the British if theyâd have known that the British lied to them and had done a deal with the French to carve up the Middle East. Could you blame them?Â
 Iâve absolutely no idea what Murphy is dribbling on about here. What Bunglawala said was that the Arabs, who were not citizens of the British Empire/Commonwealth, would probably not have fought for the British (a foreign power) against the Ottoman Empire (the foreign power occupying their lands) if theyâd have realised that the British were going to stitch them up and replace one empire with another. If by âloyalty to fellow Muslims, and to Islamâ and âif Muslims fought on anyoneâs side, it was either on the side of a non-Muslim state or on the side of the Ottoman Empireâ, Murphy is suggesting that the Arabs wouldâve fought for the Ottomans, he is a total moron. The Arabs were being totally patriotic in wanting national independence. 800,000 Indian Muslims voluntarily joined up and fought for Britain in World War Two: what is that if not loyalty and patriotism? Why should the Arabs have had loyalty to the British state, a foreign power? Ah yes of course, the idiot Murphy still thinks Bunglawala was talking about Muslim Indians!
 On we goâŚ.
Anyone using âvast majorityâ in a sentence has no idea of the actual figure and is bullshitting. Also Murphy deliberately doesnât mention the fact that Britain secured the help of Indiaâs Hindus and Sikhs by promising an independent India after the war. Britain declared war on Nazi Germany on behalf of India without seeking their approval, which understandably did not go down well and led to calls for independence. Britain then had to do a deal with the various Indian factions in order to get their help.
Yeah, Murphy totally ignores the fact that Stafford Cripps was also negotiating with Gandhi in 1942, promising an independent India if India fought for Britain, because Gandhi was campaigning for the British to leave India at that point. Hindus and Sikhs fought for Britain on a promise of independence just as much as Muslims did.
Jinnah was worried about a Hindu-dominated India, so he wanted a separate country and thus India underwent the Partition. The Unionists and Loyalists in Ireland feared a Catholic-dominated Ireland, which led to the partition of Ireland. The British far-Right is very supportive of Ulster Loyalists, but it would seem they are also critical of their Indian counterparts, Jinnahâs Muslim League. Go figure.
 Yes, just as interestingly as Indian Hindu nationalists fought for the British to secure an independent India; Irish Catholic nationalists accepted that Home Rule had been delayed due to World War One and fought for the British; and Burmese Buddhist nationalists were promised independence by the British for helping fight the Japanese. Funny, all those people fighting because theyâd been promised independence! Churchill also ordered ÂŁ100,000 be spent on the establishment of the Central London Mosque in October 1940, as a mark of respect for the Muslim soldiers of the Empire.
âŚ.And Britain shafted the Arabs. The Arabs rose against the Turks on 5th June 1916 at Medina, before British military support arrived and would still have done so even if it never did. Arab nationalism stretched back several decades. General Allenby wouldâve eventually taken Jerusalem and Damascus, and the Middle East wouldâve been divided between Britain and France anyway. The Arabs rose up before they received any support from the British. Their objective was to tie down Turkish troops and to make it easier for the British to fight the Turks. They failed to achieve a pan-Arab state because Britain reneged on its promises.
No, you moved away from the British Indian Army as soon as you started discussing the Balfour Agreement, only you were too stupid to realise that you had.
 Bearing in mind of course that not all Arabs are in fact Muslims and the âshort timeâ they fought for us in World War One being from June 1916 to November 1918, i.e. over half the war and longer than the Americans were our allies for!
The Arabs had no intention of founding their own empire or âdestroying Ottoman Islamic hegemonyâ, just destroying Ottoman hegemony over their own lands and establishing their own rule over their own lands. British High Commissioner Henry McMahon led Grand Sharif Hussein to believe heâd be the ruler of a vast empire if he sided with the Allies, which of course the British had no intention of giving him.
 Most Arabs in WWI were against the British? Which battles did they fight against the British then? Between the wars and during WWII having been screwed out of their independence by the British and then having had their land colonised by Zionists with the support of the British, who were now in control of Palestine, Iraq and Jordan, the Arabs were not exactly pro-British. Again, can you blame them?
 In Arab lands occupied by the French and British, their enemy Germany was viewed as a liberator. National Socialist politics had nothing to do with it; it was simply a case of âthe enemy of my enemy is my friendâ. Also there were huge numbers of Nazis in European countries occupied by Nazi Germany.
Newsflash: Bosnia is not an Arab country! Also about 98% of the SS were in fact non-Muslims: guess which religion they were? 20,000 Muslim SS out of 920,000 total SS is not exactly a huge number. The Bosnian Muslims were recruited because of the need to defeat Serb partisans without tying down large numbers of German troops in the process. The Orthodox Christian Serbs had massacred 100,000 Bosnian Muslims, so recruitment was easy. Yugoslavia was controlled by the UstaĹĄe, Nazi Croats, who were Catholics and enemies of the Serbs. The UstaĹĄe were responsible for the Holocaust in Yugoslavia and killed 60% of Yugoslaviaâs Jews.
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was opposed to British rule in Palestine, opposed to Zionism, appealed to Hitler to stop Jewish immigration to Palestine (even if it meant sending Jews to their deaths) and was a disgusting anti-Semite. He was however merely a religious leader with no army, his country under British control and wielding significantly less power on the world stage than the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Thatâs unlike non-Muslim, pro-Nazi leaders such as Petain, Mussolini, Tojo and Quisling, who actually had political power and, excluding Quisling, had armies at their command. His role in the Holocaust and WWII generally is massively inflated by Islamophobes, ditto the Bosnian Muslim contribution to the SS.
In far-Right Islamophobic writings the Mufti becomes Hitlerâs closest and most powerful ally, who designed the gas chambers, persuaded Hitler to start the Holocaust and toured Auschwitz, whilst the Bosnian Muslim SS were busy running the death camps and exterminating Yugoslaviaâs Jews. None of that is remotely true: itâs all bullshit to deflect blame from European Christian society, from which those genuinely responsible for those crimes came from.
Not forgetting of course that most Nazi âlabour campsâ for Jews were in Europe.
Quisling was an Arab too was he? Petain? Laval? Most collaboration with the Nazis happened in non-Arab, Christian Europe. Vichy France even introduced anti-Semitic laws without even being told to do so by Nazi Germany.Â
Why not ask the same question about Christianity, whose persecution of Jews is far longer and far greater than that of Islamâs? Are Arabs not human beings and not capable of empathy?
 OK, so how many Arabs fought for the Axis? No figures given. As pointed out above, the Arabs wanted an end to being a part of the British and French empires, and an end to Zionist colonialism. Itâs worth mentioning that Jews and Arabs had lived peacefully side-by-side for centuries up until this point.
Those shared ideologies being Arab nationalism (which Muslims supposedly are incapable of), and opposition to the British Empire and Zionism. Or does Murphy believe that the Arabs shared the Nazis' belief that that the Arabs were racially inferior? Sharing anti-Semitic beliefs does not mean a shared ideology. Britain was awash with anti-Semitism and the last anti-Jewish riot occurred in Manchester in 1947: was Britain Nazi in 1947? Essentially the Arabs (who arenât all Muslims) saw Nazi Germany as a liberator. Just like the Ukrainian Cossacks and citizens of the Baltic States saw Nazi Germany as a liberator from the Soviet Union.Â
As for shared political viewsâŚ.
âHitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamised Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.â - Albert Speer
 âWe shall continue to make disturbances in the Far East and in Arabia. Let us think as men and let us see in these peoples at best lacquered half-apes who are anxious to experience the lash.â - Adolf Hitler
 Oh yeah, old Adolf really thought highly of the Arabs!
 Conclusion
The blog entry reveals that:
Paul Austin Murphy suffers from that paranoid malaise of far-Right thinking: extreme polarisation. Everything must fit into two rival camps, the Muslim camp and the anti-Muslim camp. In this scenario Muslims are inherently evil and any claims that theyâve performed good deeds are either massively exaggerated or are total lies. Therefore Murphy has decided that Inayat Bunglawala is part of some sort of conspiracy to hide the âtruthâ.
Murphy also falls into the standard far-Right thought pattern of believing that his own ideology, what he would term ânationalism and patriotismâ, is something Muslims are incapable of. This is presumably because he does not want to believe that Muslims can share his loyalty to Britain, so he even fabricates evidence to back this up.
Murphy also deliberately omits major evidence in order to show only half the picture, to deceive his readers and to show Muslims in a bad light. For example, there is no way he could know about British deals with Jinnah over Pakistani independence, but not know about similar British promises to Gandhi over a free India.
The purpose of the blog seems to be because Murphy could not comprehend why Muslims would fight for King & Country, because he believes them incapable of patriotism or loyalty to Britain. So he draws the conclusion that they were bribed, deceived or forced into fighting for Britain, and that their natural instinct is to oppose Britain.
Reading between the lines, Murphy by his omissions would appear to believe that all non-Muslim subjects of the Empire fought for it out of loyalty and patriotism. Because in ignoring Gandhiâs Quit India movement and focusing on Jinnahâs Muslim League, he is somewhat creating the impression that Indiaâs non-Muslim population did not seek independence in return for fighting for Britain.
Murphy does his best to reduce the Muslim war effort on Britainâs side to practically nothing, whilst exaggerating the Muslim war effort against Britain (including treason) at every opportunity. He attempts this by merely stating that hardly any Muslims fought for Britain and most fought against us, without providing figures and based entirely on his say-so.
Murphy inexplicably misinterprets Inayat Bunglawalaâs recounting of British promises to Arab Muslims over the Near East, as having been made to Indian Muslims. Murphy then uses his own misinterpretation as âevidenceâ of Indian Muslimsâ inherent âdisloyaltyâ to Britain.
Also in keeping with standard far-Right practice, Murphy tries to inflate the connections between Muslims/Arabs and the Nazis, whilst utterly ignoring the far greater links between European Christians and the Nazis, which is after all what the Nazis were and what the modern far-Right (whose ideology is the same or similar to the Nazisâ) are. Also he totally ignores the fact that many non-Muslim subjects of the British Empire, including British citizens, collaborated and even fought for the Nazis and Japanese.
 In my opinion the blog entry attempts to sound clever and well-informed, but in fact proceeds from a collection of assumptions based on the authorâs own anti-Muslim prejudice and then tries to make the facts fit those assumptions by either fabricating evidence, or by ignoring any that undermines Murphyâs argument. In fact the very first claim he makes, that Muslims have loyalty only to their religion and not to their country, the supposed truth on which his entire argument hangs, appears to have been invented by him in order to argue that Muslims have no loyalty to Britain. It's supposed to be a "patriotic" and "counter-jihad" blog, yet it attacks the the memory of the war veterans of the British Empire and Commonwealth, and also that of its allies. A total Category B conspiracy theorist crackpot.
Bottle Job Squad - For those who had trouble reading the last post
I appreciate that the first image in my previous post may have been slightly hard to read, so here it is as a link and in text. It is as I said previously a parody, but I wouldn't put it past them to do these things!Â
http://oi60.tinypic.com/259wpc6.jpg
Victory over Communism and Islam in Brighton #brighton #edl #mfe
 Posted on July 2, 2014
 As all good patriots know our country faces a deadly threat from the twin evils of Cultural Marxism, communism and Islam. A few weeks ago myself and Trisha took the battle for our nation's survival to the dark heart of Marxism in this country, to Brighton. Once there we planned to infiltrate the worker-owned Commie hell hole of Waitrose. 5 Words: We Shop Where We Want. To prepare for this we carefully disguised ourselves by not bathing for a week, so we'd smell the same as all the unwashed scum who work and shop there. We also dressed in tie-dyes and keffiyehs so no-one would know we were patriots. There was a nerve-wracking point when we first entered the shop before we knew if the disguise had paid off, but fortunately we blended in with the hippie scum and escaped detection. As we moved around unnoticed we engaged in secret surveillance and were able to photo many of the Commies shopping and working there on our mobiles. We'll put the ones we photoed on Redwatch.Â
We saw an Asian, an obvious muzzie, working on one of the checkouts. More proof that Islam and Marxism are in bed together. We quickly picked up a few packs of bacon, a packet of pork sausages and a six-pack of lager and got in the queue. In front of us was an elderly geezer with a beard and glasses, just like Rolf Harris but we didn't find out if he was Australian too, must've been a nonce so we quickly photoed him and will send that to Redwatch. We got to the front of the queue and the muzzie was all smiles and saying "Hi" and "How are you?", but we knew that he was really thinking "Die you infidel whores!" and so were not taken in by his taqiyya. I was thinking as he spoke to us, âSoon we shall liberate our country from your evil!â and smiled at him as I thought it. He smiled back, the evil scum. We were sniggering as we handed him our bacon, pork and beer, because now he'll go to hell! On the way out we made a note of who the manager is and we'll expose them on Redwatch and it serves them right the Commie scum. In Brighton there was some sort of rally for the trade unions, i.e. Commies, so we waved our England flag at them knowing as anti English traitors it would really offend them. They even tried to hide their obvious discomfort by smiling and waving at us! Ha, ha, that was hilarious! They were too scared to attack us even though they massively outnumbered us. Cowards.  There's some Commie slag who lives in Brighton whom I called a flat-chested ugly bitch on Facebook, but although I know her name and where she lives I used a fake account so she doesn't know who I am. She's another cowardly keyboard warrior and if I told her I was in Brighton she'd be so pissed off, but obviously I had no intention of being in close proximity to the filthy soap-dodger so I kept my visit a total secret. We saw two mosques in Brighton. The first was a massive ugly thing with lots of domes down near the seafront, so we waited until no-one was watching and went for a quick pee on it. 5 Words: We Piss Where We Want. We walked past the second mosque and the muzzies inside must've been so scared of us patriots that they made no attempt to come out and behead us. We drove the wrong way down a one-way street, but seeing as they are our streets, English people's streets, not Brighton Commies' or muzzies' streets, we drove down it anyway. A copper stopped us and gave us some politically correct nonsense about driving the wrong way. Obviously sharia law is in charge in Brighton. I was thinking all the time "5 Words: We Go Where We Want!" and "No Surrender to sharia law!" as he was saying this and you could tell by the look on his face he was the unhappy tool of his Islamo-Marxist masters. After a short discussion with the OB we turned the car around, but even though I was really polite with him, in my heart I knew I'd never surrender to sharia law and I kept thinking those defiant words over and over. We drove out of Brighton having entered the lair of Cultural Marxism and survived, but not only that but having scored a stunning victory against the forces of evil.
5W
Sandra
Bottle Job Squad
Yes, alright, the above is indeed a parody. However it serves to illustrate the point that the Pie & Mash Squad live in their own little universe in which they are brave heroes pitted against overwhelming odds in a battle to save England (or the UK in general. Maybe they are some of those annoying people who say "England" when they mean the UK?). You may think that I've gone utterly loopy writing that and maybe it is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but to be honest this is the sort of thing they boast about. They fantasise about somewhere being a "no-go zone" for "infidels", enter it for a few minutes, and to the amazement of no-one but themselves emerge from their "covert operation" alive.
 They really donât get what it means to expose someone: you actually have to expose someone for something, i.e. criminal activity. Posting someoneâs personal details because you happen to not like their opinions is not exposing them; itâs harassing them. It appears that the far-Right generally see no difference between publicising someoneâs criminal activity, e.g. racism and violence, and publishing their home address, pictures of their kids, etc., because of their opinions. Therefore the likes of the Pie & Mash Squad will âexposeâ people for beingâŚ.wellâŚ.law-abiding citizens.
They also appear to see communists everywhere, see Muslims everywhere, accuse loads of people of being paedophiles, hate the people of Brighton (the entering of which is an act of defiance and bravery apparently), call other people keyboard warriors on social media sites and say totally inane things like "No surrender to the Taliban". Can someone please explain how a bunch of religious fanatics living in Afghanistan and Pakistan, pose any sort of real threat to a gang of English football hooligans living thousands of miles away?
Most amusing is the very fact that they believe that going to a place that they are legally entitled to visit, as in pretty much anywhere, is worthy of them uttering the slogan âWe Go Where We Wantâ. Well seeing as no-one is stopping you; itâs hardly a victory is it? Despite that boasting and the threats to bring civil war to the streets, they meekly submit to police orders when they go on demos. Thereâs so few of them now, they have no choice! Of course attempting to point out how weird this behaviour is will get you dismissed as a "Commie", as they only believe what they themselves or other far-Right activists write. Despite all their acting hard on social media, when it comes to real life situations all their threats amount to nothing: it's all part of their "mighty warrior" fantasy. All told they seem like a load of paranoid braggarts, living in their own echo-chamber of bullshit.
This is a better name for them: the Bottle Job Squad.
 A couple of their activists. There's no real point to this picture, I'm just throwing it in for the hell of it!
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Casualties Untied
 Casualties: casualties of natural selection. Untied: part of the slow disintegration of the British far-Right.
 This is old news, more of a recap really, but thatâs because Casuals United doesnât actually do anything newsworthy most of the time, apart from heroically threatening Legoland. Thatâs odd really, because by the looks of their self-portraits they seem to regard it as their spiritual home. Â
Casuals United: always bricking it
 In that case this is me!
Casuals United would have you believe that they are an elite cadre of real hard-cases.
Ooh, scary, scary!
 However they appear in fact to consist mainly of one ageing football hooligan with a fearsome reputation for stabbing peopleâŚ.well he did around 25 years agoâŚ.and three dolly birds who work in jobs like hairdressers, who probably wouldnât take a pop at anyone lest they crack a nail. A bit like Charlieâs Angels as portrayed by the shittiest village am-dram society; with no script, no plot and no acting ability.
 The Little Snodsbury production of Charlie's Angels was not a successâŚ.
 Thereâs also someone called Lee Marsh, who may be Jeffâs brother, his son or both; who knows?
 Peaceful knifeman Jeff Marsh trying to look sophisticated
 It's Football Hooligan Barbie!
  They chiefly spend their time posting photos of people and their houses in the hope of getting them beaten up, and generally trying to act all hard online. Casuals United seemingly thinks itâs a sensible idea to accuse anyone they donât like of beingâcommiesâ, âpaedosâ, âtraitorsâ and other playground levels of defamation. Theyâve recently taken to calling themselves the Pie and Mash Squad, which I suppose is supposed to rhyme with âfashâ (fascist), but merely makes them sound fat instead.
 Speaking of portliness, Jeff Marsh, the aforementioned hooligan, took to calling himself âJoe Cardiffâ (his sort tend to name themselves after their towns and cities: in case they forget where they live I suppose), nicking Roger Watersâ music and delivering daft proclamations about âcom-meesâ from what appeared to be a UVF fetish dungeon. He even donned a balaclava for the full gimp effect.
 Jeff Marsh in his UVF fetish dungeon
 Zoe Harrison trying to look scary
Anyway, the silly sods run a blog under the tagline âA blog for peaceful hooligansâ.Â
hooligan
Pronunciation: huËlÉŞg(É)n
noun
A violent young troublemaker, typically one of a gang: a football hooligan
That is somewhat like having a church for atheist Christians. So yes, they are a sort of self-parody: thickness as an art form.
 Being wannabe hooligans and also wannabe fascists, they need someone to fight. The âpeaceful hooligansâ have decided to square up to Clapton Ultras becauseâŚ.errâŚ.theyâre opposed to racism and the far-Right, despite the likes of Casuals United denying being both those things. Which begs the question why are they spoiling for a fight with people who oppose racism? Of course they wonât actually fight themselves; theyâll just egg on their fellow far-Right thugs to do their dirty work for them.
Hereâs their blog entry on the Clapton Ultras: http://pieandmashsquad.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/too-big-for-their-boots-clapton-fc-ultras-edl-evf/
Right, so these supposed âattacksâ are online, but they are trying to arrange physical retribution. I sincerely doubt that the Clapton Ultras have insulted Lee Rigby, who has unwittingly and very much against the wishes of his family, been turned into a far-Right martyr. For âmartyrâ read âexcuse to engage in violence and bigotryâ. Indeed, at the bottom of the post there are the contact details given out in order to harass the club. The âMangotsfield inter village crewâ sound decidedly unthreatening, as if the Pie and Mash Squad had announced that theyâd vanquished the Nibble-Pibblies! In any case Iâm not surprised they vanished, because outside of this blog entry there is no other reference to them, including no exposure by the Pie and Mash Squad/Casuals United, so I therefore suspect that like the Nibble-Pibblies they are made up. Keep politics out of football? But the âWho are we?â section of their blog, http://pieandmashsquad.wordpress.com/about/, says this.
 They want to keep politics out of football, but they are football hooligans who are also activists and complain about the way this country is run!
Pie and Mash Squad in Brighton on a demo, despite not doing them
They donât do demos: care to revise that?
They moan about left-wing activists targeting small football clubs, but not only do Clapton Ultras appear to be locally based fans, but where are Casuals United/Pie and Mash Squad going with this, other than targeting a small football club that none of them are members of? More hypocrisy.
â5 Words: We go where we wantâ: no they donât, they only go where they have the right to go as members of the public. âPie and Mash Squad is not an organised groupâ: true!
I suppose if there is any point to this blog entry, it is that the Internet makes idiots far more influential than they would be otherwise, said idiots can make themselves sound important and Casuals United/Pie and Mash Squad are a prime example of these things. I shall leave you with the âpeaceful hooligansâ plotting some violently peaceful actions.
Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
As you may be aware, Tommy Robinson AKA Stephen Yaxley-Lennon has been released 6 months into his 18 month prison sentenceâŚ.You werenât aware? Oh well, hardly surprising. You have to really dig to find anything announcing the fact. This is all I could find (well actually itâs as far as I could be bothered to look): http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/jamiebartlett/100013835/the-guards-dont-run-the-prison-islam-does-my-interview-with-a-reformed-tommy-robinson/
 We can see that apparently, according to Tommy/Stephen, Islam runs the prison system.
âRobinson claims that [HMP] Woodhill is a hotbed of Islamic radicalisation. "I had staff telling me that the guards donât run the prison, Islam does." Radical preachers, he says, are paid ÂŁ100 for every prisoner they convert. (Although he did not elaborate by whom, why, or how.) These preachers are "enforcing sharia on the wings, preventing non-Muslims from taking showers [with Muslims]". Robinson further claims that a lot of people are converting to Islam inside the prison in order to become part of a Muslim gang, which gives them some protection. "If you convert," he says, "you are automatically protected."
Allegations like this are extremely difficult to prove one way or another.â
 Tommy Robinson making unsubstantiated claims about Muslims? Shock! Horror! This shouldnât really come as a surprise however, because according to him Islam also runs the police and in fact the entire country, as can be seen in these examples.
 From his speech to the English Defence League at Peterborough, 11th December 2010.
 Stephen Lennon: âIslam....Islam rules this country with fear. Islam rules this country with fear.â
 From his interview on BBC Radio 5 Live, 19th November 2010. This was immediately after a senior police officer had said the EDL stir up Islamic extremism.
 Stephen Lennon: âAndâŚ.And the funny thing is, the head of counter-terrorism for the West Midlands is a feller called Anil Patani: a Muslim. And he will go to great lengths to stop people realising what Islam is. Two years ago there was a documentary made for Dispatches where they went undercover into the Green Lane Mosque; a supposed beacon of moderation mosque. And then they showed videos of extremism: sharaâŚ.sharia law being preached, anti-democracy, homophobic, all this stuff being preached in that mosque and in his decision as the head of public order at the time with West MâŚ.West Muslim [sic] Police Force, to go and raid Channel 4 documentary makers, and chaâŚandâŚandâŚ.andâŚ.and charge them with inciting religious hatred. The outcome of it was that the West Midlands Police Force had to pay ÂŁ140,000 compensation to Channel 4, but the reason for it was to put the fear into any other documentary makers that wish to expose Islam for what it is. Islam is not a religion of peace, it never has been and it never will.â
 Nicky Campbell: âIâŚ.Iâm hearing Assistant Chief Constable is not actually aâŚ.aâŚ.a Muslim.â
 Stephen Lennon: âNah, I didnât say the Assistant. I said Anil Patani, whoâsâŚ.whoâsâŚ.whoâs one of the head figures in counter-terrorismâŚ.â
 Nicky Campbell: âHeâs not. Heâs not. Iâm hearingâŚ.Iâm being told heâs not a Muslim. WeâllâŚ.weâllâŚ.weâll check that out. ThaâŚ.thatâs what Iâm hearing.â Stephen Lennon: â[unintelligible] Anil PataniâŚ. Anil Patani is one of the head figures inâŚ.in West MidâŚ.MidâŚ.Midlands counter-terrorism unit, is a Muslim. And heâs the Muslim that made the decisionâŚ.â
 Nicky Campbell: âRightâŚ.Right. Weâll check it out. Whatever.â
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Nicky Campbell: âLetâs getâŚ.ahâŚ.ahâŚ.PhâŚ.Phil. YouâŚ.You can testify on Anil Patani: is he or is he not a Muslim?â
 Phil: âHeâs definitely not a Muslim, no. HeâsâŚ.He is the Assistant Chief Constable at West Midlands Police, whose special role is obviously overlookingâŚ.ahâŚ.counter-terrorism, so heâs right about that, but heâs definitely not a Muslim. IâŚ.I think hisâŚ.his background is Hindu, I donât know whether thatâs particularly relevant, but heâs certainly not a Muslim.â
 Stephen Lennon: âAnil PaâŚ.Anil Patani is a Muslim. Anil Patani is a Muslim.â
 Phil: âHeâs not.â
 Anil Patani is Asian, a copper and did something involving Muslims that Tommy finds objectionable, so therefore he must be a Muslim himself. If he was white presumably he'd be a "communist". OK, I think itâs reasonable to assume Tommy Robinson is slightly paranoid about Islam and speaks of it as some conspiracy or perhaps an evil being, such as Sauron from Lord of the Rings, the Emperor from Star Wars or Lord Voldemort from Harry Potter. He thinks Muslims control everything and non-Muslims in authority are in fact Muslims, which is no different to conspiracy theories involving Jews.Â
He accuses whoever and whatever he doesn't like of being controlled by Islam. The police talk badly of his organisation: Islam runs the police. He gets sent to prison: Islam runs the prison services. He doesn't like the government's attitude to Muslims: Islam runs the country. That applies to all far-Right anti-Muslim groups too. I wouldn't be at all surprised that if he got sold a dodgy motor that he wouldn't declare, "Islam rules Dave's Car Dealership!"
Itâs worth bearing in mind that he was convicted for his involvement in a drug-dealing ring and has a previous conviction for possessing cocaine; a well-known side effect of which is paranoia.
 There were fears that once he left the EDL and allied himself to the Quilliam Foundation that heâd become this well-respected moderate voice of counter-extremism, able to court the media, move freely without the baggage of the EDL and starting afresh with some new, more subtle form of Islamophobia. I always took the view that it was only being Chief Loon of the EDL that made him interesting to the media and once he left heâd go back to being a nobody again. Based on the lack of any media interest whatsoever since he was incarcerated, apart from the above article, I suspect I was right.
 The article was published on the 17th June, he apparently was released on the 12th and itâs taken me nearly two weeks to post this, because basically the only good reason to write it was to show that heâs still as unhinged as ever. Still, it doesnât look as if his former fan club are too bothered, judging by this screen-cap from the 12th June!*
EDL: not rejoicing about Tommyâs release
  Ed âBollocks to the EDLâ Woods
  *Note: Danny Barker is an anti-fascist, not an EDL supporter.