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So, I found this tweet from Shankar...
I want to hear your opinions because I'm sure there are some of you who don't appreciate the lies Shankar has said.
Also, it's best that you have seen all the episodes if you wish to comment and I'm talking about stuff from the novels and manga, so if you only watched the adaptation and don't want to get spoiled, proceed with caution!
This was his reply regarding that clip that was shown before the adaptation was released. It's the scene from the first episode where he saves that woman and her baby Most people didn't like that he was being self-aware about his one-liners..
Given that the writing in general was pretty bad, I didn't take note who was the character who had self-aware dialogue...This adaptation barely had any memorable quotes, so if any of you know, leave a comment. I was put off by Mary's cussing and quantum bullshit to have noticed...
2)...that sets Dante in his path to becoming DMC3 Dante.
Yeah so much for that. He spent more time getting nerfed by Mary and being captured.
So, they made him appear like he's still inexperienced yet the records from the DARKCOM state that he had 5+ years working in demon hunting. So they kept tabs on him since he was 12-13?
So, instead of showing him as Tony, even if it could have been just a flashback, his period of working as a mercenary like in the first novel was basically summed up as having "5 years of experience", but not showing anything from that time? They could have shown him as a kid...
Let's see if Dante and Nell's meeting at DarkCom is their first one they knew each other because Dante worked aa a freelance mercenary...
Anywho, moving on.
3. "Which follows the manga"
The only thing taken from the manga was the White Rabbit...and Shankar said that's his self-interest. Oh, you wanna say that you're just misunderstood? Fuck off...
I also don't believe him when he said that Capcom showed him the materials for the last volume of the manga that was about Lady.
If it wasn't shown to the public and never mentioned in other media, then it's not part of the canon.
I think the moron in this post might have wanted to say "novel" instead of manga, but he probably uses them interchangeably.
Dumbass, he already had them in the DMC3 manga...
Most of us believed that in the first trailer he was presented as "Tony" because he didn't have Ebony and Ivory yet.
'Should I have the opportunity to continue the franchise"
Fuck no. He shouldn't have been given an opportunity in the first place.
So yeah, I would like to hear what you have to say and if you have seen other statements like that.
As per usual. Same script as the people who defend Netflixvania and the Sonic comics and cartoons.
"It's fine that the adaptation is completely different, because the games suck anyway!"
The only people who like these in name only adaptations are IMPOSTERS who MEAN US HARM
Netflix's Devil May Cry: Cynical, Reactionary, Dismissive
When Netflix's adaptation of Devil May Cry was first announced, I, like many other DMC fans, were quite excited. DMC has a lot of storytelling potential, which historically has been explored widely in novels, comics, manga, and even anime. The games themselves, while inconsistent, have had massive peaks in narrative finesse, with Devil May Cry 3 being regarded as one of the best narratives in gaming. While the games themselves are a bit niche, Dante as a character is massively popular and won Capcom's poll as the company's most popular character. Bury the Light, Vergil's theme, was a smash hit that has wider recognition than the game it came from. The cultural impact & recognizability of the characters and mythos of Devil May Cry can't be denied, so you would think that it would make a solid foundation for an animated adaptation.
Setting Expectations
Before this show was released, the fandom had extensive communication with Adi Shankar, the self-proclaimed "visionary" behind this series. It was assured that he wanted to get this right and he showed that he did an extensive amount of research that even hardcore fans may not know about the series, reading obscure cancelled manga, novels with dubious canon, exploring as much of the extended media as possible and leaving no stone unturned. He even posted himself in a Dante cosplay. It was made clear that he was a fan of DMC, and so it seemed to be in safe hands. Up to the release, however, Adi Shankar started to do some things that were strange.
He tweeted that "Vergil was right" and called him an anti-hero, he revealed that Lady was part of a military group...these are very, very different takes on the characters. As we got more and more details, it became apparent that this show was going to be very different from the original games. Whenever we got projects in the past like this, they were usually canon to the games, so this became a strange thing to wrap our heads around.
For this reason, I'd like to look at this series as it's own property, completely separated and different from the games. Despite everything Adi Shankar may have said, this simply is not a faithful adaptation at all, it's very different and on the grounds of an adaptation, it fails at the job. So in the interest of fairness, I wanted to look at it as it's own story. But even then, I was disappointed.
The American Themes
DMC is heavily rooted in punk culture, drawing from it's music, the fashion sensibilities, and certain aesthetics. However, something (mostly) unique to the Netflix series is it's exploration of American culture. The last attempt at exploring this in DMC was in the reboot, DmC. However, I would say this series goes a step further than that game did and really pushes this theme even harder. The instinct to do this is a little understandableā punk culture has always been heavily influenced by American culture, often stemming from there, so this isn't entirely coming from nowhere. Although I disagree with this as a DMC fan, I wanted to be fair so I chose to approach this as if I knew nothing about DMC.
Adi Shankar stated "My DMC Universe is set in a late '90s/early 2000s PS2 era of the world. It's not set in modern times. It's set in my memory of the world, pre- and post-9/11.". This is heavily reflected in the series, with the American government playing a role as a major player in the story. The show depicts an extrajudicial rule of law under the Vice President and his control of a shadowy US Military group, DARKCOM. The Vice President and DARKCOM, in no uncertain means, are portrayed as villainous figures with negative intentions. It's very clear that this show is meant to critique the America of the 90s/00s and the War on Terror as a whole. At one point, there is a drone strike montage on demon refugees wearing head coverings played to American Idiot by Green Day with American soldiers proudly flaunting war crimes in the media in response to a terror event.
Is Devil May Cry Woke?
This may make you think, is Netflix's Devil May Cry meant to be "woke"? The answer may surprise you.
A major plot point of this show is its exploration of the demon realm. In the games, the demon realm is a mysterious, transient place rarely explored and its depiction wildly varies between games. We are given a variety of clues as to its inner workings, but it has never been explained fully. The Netflix show has a wildly different approach to this.
In the show, we are introduced to the demon realm through the lens of White Rabbit, the main antagonist of the show. As a child, he was bullied and dreamed of an escape. One day, he chanced upon a portal to the demon realm and took it. Upon arriving, the air was shown to be highly toxic, and the realm itself was dangerous with powerful demons trying to kill White Rabbit. However, he is saved by another demon and introduced to an underground civilization of weaker demons, called Makaians, named after what they call the demon realm, Makai. Makaians are shown to be a tightly knit, happy community living in prosperity in this underground society. However, the toxic atmosphere of Makai is still an issue, with Makaians dying off to illness. White Rabbit grows up, and comes up with a way to help the Makaians find refuge in the human realm, specifically America. One day, helping refugees cross over into America, he happens upon a DARKCOM squad who opens fire on him and the refugees, a brutal massacre that leaves almost no survivors. White Rabbit, as the lone survivor, takes it upon himself to swear vengeance on DARKCOM.
He continues aiding refugees, and builds a community of refugees in an apartment complex. However, he begins to rule them through fear, performing experiments on the refugees (he is compared to a Nazi at one point), and uses the refugees as a militant force against Americans.
At one point, Dante has a debate with White Rabbit. White Rabbit argues that by sealing away Makai and creating the border between it and the human realm, Sparda trapped the Makaians in a world with a mad ruler, Mundus, violent demons, and a toxic environment that kills them to breathe in. He wants to unite the worlds so the refugees, the Makaians have a safe place to live. Dante retorts that what his father Sparda did was the right thing, and that by letting in the Makaian refugees, the violent demons will also cross over and slaughter humans by the millions. He also remarks that the human world isn't a good place anyway.
Adi Shankar, the "visionary" behind the show, was in attendance at Donald Trump's inauguration and said he respected him. With this in mind, what does this say when combined with the aforementioned discussion of immigration within the show?
Later, the US is shown to invade Makai and establish concentration camps, and Vergil is depicted as being a freedom fighter for the Makaians, freeing them from US prisons as an agent of Mundus. Although White Rabbit says Mundus is oppressive, we haven't been shown any real bad sides of his regime. In fact, by all accounts, Mundus and his operatives look to be quite sympathetic.
With all of the aforementioned details, it seems that Adi Shankar, while critical of US interventionism, goes a step further and suggests that isolationism is the answer, that we should go so far as to not even allow refugees from areas with literally poisonous air, that they should stay in their place and we should stay in ours. This is the conclusion of season 1, and I am not interested in further exploration of this world and themes. The show is cynical, reactionary and pessimistic. There isn't an ounce of positive messaging in regards to any of the conflicts portrayed in this series, and it reads as a self-indulgence so contradictory to humanity that the author has to craft an unbelievably terrible world to affirm their own views.
Of course, this is an incomplete saga. There will likely be a Season 2 and it may go against how I interpreted the intent of the author here, but Season 1 is what we have been given and what I am judging. Even when viewed by its own merits, separate from the original material, this story simply falls flat. With the current state of the world in 2025, we did not need a story like this.

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AMERICAN POLITICS? IN MY DEVIL MAY CRY??!!??
Making the whole theme of the DMC Netflix show that "demons are actually the victims of jingoistic American military imperialism" is such a fundamental antithesis of the entire beating heart of the Devil May Cry franchise. Honestly it's exactly what I expected from a cynical western production.
The Devil May Cry series is about how humanity is superior because humanity is capable of love. Demons may have power and strength which allows them to assert their will over the world and cause suffering. But humanity will always overcome, humanity is capable of more than demons ever will be. Because devils never cry. Only humanity has the capacity for love that allows them to feel sorrow at the loss of their loved ones. Only humanity has the drive to self sacrifice in the name of protecting those we cherish and value.
The reason Dante and Nero are the badasses that they are is because of their human genetics, not their demonic blood. Vergil loses because he tried rejecting his humanity and just embracing his demonic lineage in the name of striving for more power. Vergil loses his soul and is enslaved and humiliated because he pushes his only remaining family away, he forgot that the very reason he became obsessed with power is because he wanted to be able to protect Dante the way he couldn't on the day they lost their home. And Vergil is only redeemed when he is reclaimed by his son, and has familial love forced onto him whether he wanted it or not. The theme song of DMC5 is called LEGACY for a reason, because the ties that bind for better and for worse will always be a part of you. And it is the characters HUMANITY that makes that the case.
Family and love is the FOUNDATIONAL theme of the Devil May Cry series from the very beginning. This isn't even very depthful literary analysis, the games are incredibly blunt with these themes.
This is incredibly surface level reading. And yet somehow the creators of the Netflix show either didn't get it, or deliberately disregarded it. Either way, god awful show. If you enjoy it, you CANNOT say that you also enjoy the video games. They are mutually exclusive. What exactly do you like about the games, if you derive ANY enjoyment whatsoever from this show that uses the source material as toilet paper?
At least have the integrity to admit you just think the video games are stupid and the show is superior because it isn't a video game. At least then I could respect that. Don't try and pull this "I enjoy both" bullshit. Bullshit as in you're fucking lying.
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Piracy is never stealing, but sure.
Okay, so, I'm putting on my Author Hat for a second, because I keep seeing this take and like. It annoys me! Because "paying for it" was never, legally, owning it, even back in the ~halcyon days~ of hardback books and VHS tapes. To be clear, I am not saying this is a good thing-- but this take is bad enough to set my hair on fire.
Pretty much since copyright became a thing, when you buy a piece of media, you're not buying the media. The author and the publishing house (or the film studio, or the devs and the game studio, or the musician and the record company, or whoever) own the media. You're exchanging money for the right to use it under their specific terms.
Most of the time, when you buy a piece of media (whether it's a book, a DVD, a record, or a game), what you are buying is the right to consume that media for your personal use. You are buying the right to read or watch or play that thing as many times as you want, in your own home, by yourself or with a few friends.
Legally, you do not own the media. You own the right to use the media in specific ways. If you've ever lent a book to a friend and they didn't give it back, that friend is technically stealing. They don't have a license to read the book; you do.
When it's "two friends sharing a book", no one cares- it's not worth it to prosecute every time; it'd be a huge waste of money. But people get in trouble for this all the time, because they'll decide it's a good idea to play a DVD they bought at their school movie night or their church's daycare, and suddenly, they're Very Publically breaking the terms of their license. And an organization has more money than your average joe, and is worth suing. So the owners of that media come down on them like a ton of bricks.
The reason why ~digital media~ and streaming (video or music) is such a problem for people who want to Own Their Media is that, suddenly, who is consuming what becomes incredibly transparent. The people who own a particular piece of media can track who is sharing what with what account. They can tell if you're violating your license in more ways than they ever could before. And they can come down on you in ways that they never could, because you're easier to track. Combine that with the fact that media companies are more stuck in the WE HAVE TO GET BIGGER bubble more than anyone else except maybe tech startups? They're gonna use every tool they have to make sure everyone pays them.
tldr: You've never owned your media; you've always been leasing it from the people who do. If that pisses you off-- tbh, it probably should. But this is a bad take, legally, even if it's correct ethically.
No no, don't confuse things.
You never owned THE COPYRIGHT of media you bought. Obviously! But you very much owned the MEDIA themselves, the specific copies that you bought.
You buy a paper book, you own it. You don't licence it, you just have it, and neither the publisher nor the author can take it back, or ask for more money once the transaction is done, or change the terms in any way. Same with a CD, a vinyl record, an oil painting. At no point did you buy the copyright of the work, but you own a thing that contains the work (if unique) or a copy thereof (if not). And that thing is yours, period.
But when Amazon sells e-books, or iTunes sells digital music albums, and you buy them thinking they're copies of a work that you now own, just like paper books or CDs (and of course you thought that, even the price was comparable, and it should be damn cheaper since the production costs are spectacularly lower!), and then it turns out that Amazon and Apple merely licenced them to you, and they can flip a switch at will and take them back, and we get such dystopian shit as "the e-books don't work any more" or "the albums were automatically deleted from people's storage", why, I'm sorry, that's another thing entirely.
This shouldn't be happening. The only reason it happens is a handful of monopolies, and TRIPS, and the clusterfuck of IP and copyright law, which is literally being written by said monopolies at the direct expense of creators and audiences alike.
And we're rapidly getting to a point where actually buying media will simply be unavailable, and licencing them will be the only option, and I can't begin to explain how much CONTROL this cedes to that fucking handful of monopolies, control over human culture and art and knowledge. It really is dystopian shit, and it really wasn't like that before.
That's why I keep correcting people (annoyingly! I admit!) that piracy isn't theft. It's copyright infringement. Apples and oranges.
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I got a little lost reading this (its late), but I will collect it.
The art is exquisite.
So, what is the OGL and why are DnD creators thoroughly screwed?
Tumblr has not been doing a great job at talking about this, but:
With OneDnD, Wizards of the Coast has decided to update the Open Game License (OGL). Said license is what allowed people to create homebrew DnD content and sell it, and even larger companies to use certain sorts of content. Pathfinder, for example, is built on said OGL. This also allows streamers and artists to exist and benefitĀ from said content.
With OneDnD (sometimes calledĀ ādnd 6eā), WOTC wants to create a much more restrictive OGL, which will, amongst other things:
Make WOTC take a cut for any DnD-related work (according to Kickstarter, a whole 25% of the benefits)
Let WOTC cancel any project related to DnD up to their discretion
Let WOTC take ANY content made based on their system, and re-sell it without crediting you, or giving you a single cent
And most importantly, revoke the old OGL, which will harm any company or game system that used it as a base, such as Pathfinder. And it means they GET ownership over any homebrew content you may have done for 5e in the past!
Itās important to note that OGLsĀ are supposedly irrevocable. They were planning to use it for OneDnD initially, but they want to apply it retroactively to 5e, somehow. Which is illegal, but lawyers have mentioned thereās a chance they may get away with it given the wording.
This means that anything you make based on DnD (A homebrew item? A character drawing? Even music, according to them?), can get taken and used as they deem appropiate.
These news come from a leak of the OGL, which have been confirmed by multiple reputable sources (including Kickstarter, which has confirmed that WOTC already talked with them about this), and was planned to be released next week.
So, what can we do?
Speak against it. Share the word. Reblog this post. Let people know. Tumblr hasnāt been talking much about this matter, but itās VERY important to let people know about what is WOTC bringing.Ā
Boycott them. Do not buy their products. Do not buy games with their IP. Do not watch their movie. CANCEL your DnD Beyond subscription. (Btw, they ARE planning to release more subscription services too!). They do not care about the community, but they care about the money. Make sure to speak through it.Ā
And maybe consider other TTRPG systems for the time being, Pathfinderās Paizo has been much nicer to the community, their workers are unionized and are far more healthy overall
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D&D fandom is in uproar again about purported upcoming changes to the Open Gaming License, and rumours are flooding social media regarding W
This could potentially be big. Screenshots from someone in a Facebook group providing his professionally-affected opinion:
Basically, if any of this is true, you could expect Paizo et al to sue WotC/Hasbro. I would love to see that happen, personally, but it all depends on how likely any of the above actually is to work. Like, if 5.5/6e turns out to be as crappy as 4e was, this will just be WotC shooting itself in the foot again (though probably not enough to kill it). So far, I've only heard good things mechanically and bad things for the playerbase, but they have all been vague suggestions with no concrete details.
A Concrete Example
The Hypertext d20 SRD began was constructed under 3.5 as exactly what its name suggests: a self-interlinked reference document for everything in the system. Prior to its existence, the SRD was a collection of (possibly rich) text documents without page numbers or other means of easy reference. It included all OGL material from print sources it could find, so includes ~85% of the Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, Monster Manual, Expanded Psionics Handbook, Epic Level Handbook, Arcana Unearthed, and some bits from Deities & Demigods. It has other useful tools, like an encounter calculator and spell search. For the longest time, it was the only thing like it. Other sites (DnD Tools, Forgotten Realms Helps) eventually sprang up with more content; DnD Tools has been taken down numerous times for violating the OGL, while Realms Helps has stayed under the radar for some reason.
At some point, the d20srd webmaster updated it to include Pathfinder (seemingly all, but arranged by book like how Paizo's PRD was, which is deeply unhelpful) and some 5e (limited entirely to the core three books). This was long after d20pfsrd launched; that site is modeled off of the 3.5 d20srd site in organization and is amazeballs.
Since this webmaster has published 5e material on this site and since the new OGL possibly interprets that as accepting its terms, if this new OGL were legal, he could be sued to take down his entire site (or at least the perennially helpful portions) because it is no longer valid. (Per the screenshots, this is only half hypothetical: I know WotC did do this when 4e came out to fanpages that had 3.5 and 4e material because they didn't want competition from their own product.) This would leave only unauthorized (DnD Tools) or status unclear (Forgotten Realms Helps) archives. We've already lost reams of 3.5 material because WotC deleted its 3rd ed. archives (they used to publish stuff online regularly).
The screenshots are missing the point. If the leaks are accurate, thereās no need for tricks with 5e/One D&D compatibility and the like. Wizards is straight up REVOKING the old OGL, forcing everyone to use the new one. This shouldnāt be possible, but theyāre relying on one word in the old OGL terms:
āauthorizedā
And now theyāre saying, āweāre de-authorizing the old OGL, doesnāt count any more lolā. Iām not the only one who believes that, legally speaking, this is some bullshit. However, the only way to prove itās bullshit is in a court of law, and whoās gonna stand up to WotC/Hasbroās legal department? Probably only Paizo could, but I wouldnāt count on it: if they can negotiate a custom agreement behind closed doors, they will do that instead.
The thing is, this isnāt an Open Gaming Licence any more. With the new terms, Wizards can change the licence or terminate it any time it pleases, and prohibit content at will, and if you use it you waiver your right to sue for such decisions. This isnāt open. This is control.
(That said, I donāt think the d20 SRD is in any danger. Unless it somehow has $50k revenue, nothing should change about it.)
Have a look at this article for more.
An exclusive look at Wizards of the Coast's new open gaming license shows efforts to curtail competitors and and tighten control on creators
This will also be affecting virtual tabletops like Foundry and Roll20.
Hereās a Health to the CompanyĀ (Youtube link)
Iām not even halfway through Critical Role Campaign 2, and already a new story is starting. Iāve grown incredibly attached to these characters already, and their pirate arc has been a fun mess of so many emotions. What better way to deal with that than sea shanties?Ā
(you can find more of my cr fanart at #chekhov-draws-critical-role)
and from The Chieftains:
The disturbing wooden sculptures of Nagato Iwasaki that watch over the forests
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