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I LOOOVE this band (specifically this song) there music n vocals r so catchy. Hopefully, I'm getting their cd soon, awesome pop punk
Scenic Attraction-
Super cewl band with awesome rhythm n great music :D
Worthless Without
Formed 2005
From Orillia, ON, Canada
Christian band
Self titled EP (2006)
THEBIRTH:THEDEATH (2007)
[BTW, u can find the members easily online ^_^]
Signature Escape-
In their words, "dirty, gritty pop punk accompanied with harmonious 3 part vocals"
Helped cultivate the New jersey pop punk scene
Well loved in the new jersey scene
Hometown is freehold, new jersy
Where there's smoke... there's fire EP (2005)
If You want to know the truth album (2008)
Scenic Attraction-
From Santa Clarita, California
Self titled album (2008)
Short cry for a long lie EP (2005)
Live at the hard Rock Cafe live album (2006)
Scenic attractions final show, January 26th 2007
[At The Plaza in Santa clarita, california]
Notes-
Haiii guys :P I'm so sorry I've been super busy, but I'll try and get a daily song rec out every 2nd day or so. This type of band rec post is a lot less time-consuming, so I may post these more often! Also, I like this format, too, since there's a lot of bands I'd love to recommend that done have much info :> Pls send ur asks my way, when I have time I'll answer ^_^
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They have an ep, album and footage from one of their shows has been found :P
If you like metalcore or screamo, you will enjoy this band ^_^
Forming in coral springs Florida A jealousy issue are far beyond being just another mix match band of "ex members of these emo bands".
A jealousy issues members clearly had experience in emo, with members from "a poison well" and "keepsake" both already well distinguished and talented bands on their own.
Of course traces of the past bands sound conjure themselves in A Jealousy Issues Sound but in an original and creative way.
It's clear the band was going for somewhere new and refreshing. The lack of singing and typical homage to the metal sound of emo bands from Florida create an interesting concoction of metalcore and emotional hardcore.
The bands most famous song dollface experiments with emo as a genre add an extremely atmospheric, hitting, and surreal sample from the fight club.
The sample is a really nice feature and one of the most memorable parts of their music.
The urgent, raw, powerful call of the vocals adds such a flavourful delivery to their sound. The bands sound is powerful and enriching, and the vocals aren't listened to but heard.
I also really enjoy the breakdowns throughout their songs, which create an interesting and delectable structure helping separate the thrown together style they play.
A jealousy issue is a great addition to emotional metalcore, one of my fav from the subgenre. There is some stuff of the album that seems more like matter than sound, but it isn't bad and clearly wasn't just tossed in. A Jealosy Issue deserves recognition and shouldn't be glossed over. They are very much worth listening to.
Their sound is mostly typical and slightly saturated but throws in little tangs that perpell the bands sound and give them substance. The lyrics aren't groundbreaking yet well written and do their job in being emo song lyrics well.
The band has 1 album and 1 ep, which were released in 2003. The album is named "if the flames don't kill us we will" The ep is named "somebody shoot me, I think I'm inlove"
The jealousy issues album and ep were shortly recorded after Duane hosein record the vocals for "poison the well's" debut album "The Opposite Of December... A season of Seperation".
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I'll list the well known ones and less well known ^_^
Also 2nd wave emo isn't strictly bands from the Midwest.
(That's all I'm going to say about that for now, but if u wanna know more about that, let me know.)
The most well-known/important are mostly-
lifetime, braid, jawbreaker, glassjaw, cap n jazz, American football, sunny day real estate, the get up kids, mineral, jets to Brazil, dashboard confessionals, pen fold, boys life, hot rod circuit, the jazz june, thursday, Jimmy Eat world, death cab for a cutie
(Some may argue a few bands just listed arnt 2nd wave emo, but they r 2nd wave emo adjascent n still impacted 2nd wave emo/later on Midwestern emo)
Other 2nd wave emo bands-
Edaline, Texas is the reason, Christie front drive, the promise ring, giant chairs, February stars union, Luke, into it. Over it, the van pelt, camber, mid Carson July, lungfish, the Juliana theory, alkaline trio, at the drive-in, jawbox, the casket lottery, time spent driving, unwound, dismemberment plan, pedro the lion
There's so many more!
(Theys were what came to my brain first ^_^)
Side note-
I fucking love lungfish and alkaline trio
Also I'm gonna be super busy soon so apologise if I slack a bit on posting :(
I’ve been searching and trying to understand but i would like to hear from you what makes music emo? And what is your emo trinity?
I'm going to attempt to answer this in a more simplified manner with a massive rant so here is my take on both!
Part 1 (emo in music terms)
For one, think of the term emo (in regards to music genre) as a bit more of an umbrella term since in itself emo stands for emotional hardcore.
Different subgenus like math rock, hardcore, post hardcore, screamo an each stylised version of emos waves, could all technically count as emo by definition, and the believe they should since to me and in general with how wide spreads emos history is the term "emo" in regards to a music genre should also be seen as a type umbrella term for different subgenus of emotional hardcore music.
Basically, emo as a general is emotional hardcore music. Music that is hardcore yet expresses emotions through its sound. Leaning into a more vulnerable side of life.
Basically, emo is emotional music that makes you feel emotional, by definition. Yet with how emo arised, I'd define most emo music as this, the combination of the hardcore punk scene and emotional expression.
But I will mention that I do use the term emo and midwest emo in 2 different ways and would describe Midwest Emo as its own genre with how much it has grown since 2nd wave emo.
To most and general, the term emo is used to describe emotional hardcore music, which in itself is a blend of punk and emotional expression.
The beuty if emo is how diverse it is and how fiddley everything in regards to it is.
I'm sure to some people emo is just skrmaz (term for screamo) and the 90s hardcore scene. To me, what makes music emo is the emotion and generalised atmospheric sound.
Emo is made up of mostly confessional lyrics and contains a sort of angst or even protest against something. Since emo is so widespread, each subgenre has its own little common traits.
With Midwest emo, there are often monotone vocals mixed with intense bridges/choruses, then as a tribute to math rock, including complex guitar riffs that accompany the songs complex song structures.
Post hardcore usually is made up scream type vocals, loud distorted intense guitar riffs and solos along with loud emotional lyrics.
Every subgenre and specifically wave of emo has its own traits and things that make it come under the term emo.
Also another thing to consider is the term "emo adjascent" which refers to bands that are associated with emo, this somewhat mostly refers to emo culture yet there are many more ambigious punk/pop punk bands with less defined sounds that can fall under the term emo.
Despite all this, though, there is a reason that bands are culturally emo and not musically emo, so let's get into that.
Emo contains harsher vocals, a more raw sound, and is about emotional expression above the rest of things that put a song together, the whole point of emo (and many other alternative music genres) is that they are alternative since they are not made for the mainstream.
Hardcore was and will always be a non mainstream music genre, emo became commercialised, this watered down many aspects of emo music like screaming vocals and a extremely intense and blended guitar sound so that it could fit into and become mainstream.
This change and evolution to becoming mainstream happend so emo could be profited of and in general when things get mor popular, someone will be wanting to profit.
Emo began gaining popularity outside of the hardcore scene worh 2nd wave emo, due to 2nd wave emo being a lot less intense and more palatable to the masses.
So, really, overtime emo has become watered down yet is still given the emo label due to association, culture, culture evolution, marketing and the need to give bands labels to sell more.
To me I view it as when talking about emo you MUST specify what wave you are talking about in order to give context to which style of emo you are talking about since all 3 have a different base sound.
1st wave is rooted in punk and hardcore, being more intense and for a smaller audience.
2nd wave is more technical and more monotone, with songs being made with more thought and music theory.
3rd wave is much more mainstream and each band carries inspirations from many different places, and has a very pop punk sound
To summarise, emo is emotional music that contains elements of hardcore (the music genre), some of these elements being screaming vocals, simpler sound, more thrown together instruments, and more focus on the emotion than the sound (most times).
Part 2 (Emo Trinity)
I'm going to be very honest that I can't pick! The emo trinity refers to 3 bands that shaped emo culture, so if I had to choose 3 bands that truly shaped emo, I'd maybe pick rites of spring/beefeater/orchid, capp n jazz and controversially my chemical romance
I'd pick beefeater since they are one of the first examples of hardcore music being expiremented in a way that opened people to the concept of emotional hardcore (think of it as the pre cursor to emo).
Yet rites of spring where such an influential band, they helped move the sound to more emotional while still tipping their toes in the punk roots, sort of being the link between both genres.
Yet orchid helped push mainstream to a bigger audience while also really developing the screamo and emo sound forward being a band that really drove punk to become emo, being behind many defining attributes of emo like screaming vocals.
Then cap n jazz are one of the most influential bands for emo. They pioneered and honestly in many respects developed the math rock sound that continues to live through 4th and 5th wave emo bands to this day!
They heavily influenced midwest emo tirents, like American football and Joan of arc, which in themselves would go on to also greatly shape modwest emo as a whole.
Now, for mcr, to many emo elitists, this would be an extremely controversial pick (mainly since they don't even view remotley pop punk sounding emo as emo.)
The only album from my chem that is technically emo/ emo adjacent would be their debut (bullets).
Bullets contains core parts of emotional hardcore.
Yet the insane culture switch mcr helped create with emo is undeniable.
MCR was one of the leading bands in creating/indirectly causing commercialised emo which would form the sound of 3rd wave emo/blend of pop punk and emo
Mcr's asthetic and sound drove an immense and unimaginable immense amount of people towards emo and the culture as a whole.
Bullets came out in 2002 and mcr in 2004.
The band coming about during the switch from the hardcore scene to more mainstream and also emos internet days made their impact on emo massive.
MCR reshaped and redefined what emo was seen as and helped form the whole look synonymous with emo. Ofc many other bands were also a part of this change, yet mcr were on the biggest who continue to have the same impact.
Hot topic boomed with MCR fans and mall goths, MCR was a band that many people from many differnt subgenres listened to, uniting and blending themes of subcultures together.
When you unite and blend subcultures together it only creates more sounds, MCR also influenced so many pop punk bands and were the catalyst for many emo icons to get into the genre (people like ryan ross).
They were also a different sound to the pop punk saturated scene. They were one of the only bands with such theatrics, changing views on emo culture once again, and they also shaped emo fashion.
From the people they inspired, culture shift they had a major part in, effect on emo to this day, it's difficult to say MCR haven't helped shape the change and switch within emo, ofc how u view this change in emo as a negative or a positive is up to you.
To me, the switch and more mainstream sound only created a new community of angst teens who could emotionally express themselves.
So despite mcr not neccasrially falling under the emo music genre, lacking many elements of emotional hardcore, the cultural impact they had is undeniable and shows just how interestingly emo have evolved.
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HAII! that's the end :> sorry if this is confusing or not explained well, it's such a complex topic and adding every smaller yet important details would just be too much😭
if you have any questions/want to know more/confused on ANYTHING please let me know!!
This is a learning space! Emo is a very complex genre ^_^
Sorry for the yap. Thanks so much for the ask (great question!!) Ily all<3
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It is a term used to describe the general sound of emo during a certain time, the term also isn't exclusive to emo! 1st wave etc is also a term very often used in punk, goth and metal culture.
Emo has 5 waves (but the first 3 are the main ones). Emo has been around since the 1980s, starting with bands like beefeater and rites of spring, which were punk bands!
Emo came from punk and hardcore (which in itself came from punk) and then evolved into different sounds and subcultures over time.
1st wave emo is extremely punk based, 2nd wave is when mathrock became a big part of emo culture and developed a more midwest emo sound with bands like lifetime and braid.
3rd wave emo is your more pop punk sounding band.
Think of 3rd wave as progressive emo incorporating sounds from all over the scene. This is why 3rd wave emo bands don't have a definite sound.
3rd wave emo is also extremely interchangeable with being around the time emo became commercialised and went from an underground local scene (mirroring it's punk roots) for hardcore kids to the pop punk mcr affiliated community it is now.
Bands like Jimmy Eat World and later on mcr helped move emo from basements to MySpace. It is important to remember that commercialised emo often contains music that doesn't fit into the actual genre of emo.
Bands like panic at the disco bearing emo titles, yet the music is extremely far from the genre.
The whole topic and discussion of emos waves is extremely interesting and really shows how alternative music evolved.
Before emo commercialisation, there wasn't a look being sold since no one was attempting to profit from emo, emo existed for kids to be able to come together and listen to music.
Emo kids used to just be hardcore kids and dressed in stereotypical nerdy chareotypes since there wasn't a fashion or style into white belt fashion that came into play and leaned into men's more feminine styling.
The waves of emo truly show what alternative music is and its purpose but also how it evolves and what causes change.
And this is only the tiniest bit of coverage on the topic :D