❝Marigami forever, Adrien sucks❞

As an ex Timothy supporter, the new accounts from Timothy Heller's friend raises many questions and speculation from me . Originally I wanted to believe Timothy's story as I typically always believe victims but the additional information on her that has resurfaced complicates everything for me and I find myself unable to come to a clean conclusion.

Im not blind to the fact that Melanie could've have harmed Timothy. I was merely a fan of her music, I dont know her personally, so it isn't like I have any concrete evidence. However, I can acknowledge nuance to situations and understand that a person can be both a victim and a perpetrator.

I want to say how sorry I am that this person has experienced the treatment they did while they were friends with Heller and hope that as a community, we're able to look forward. Unfortunately in the fandom for many fans its hard to understand grey area and people are quick to take defense and have biases but the truth is we will never know the full truth no matter how much we wanna believe we do and Timothy's behavior is....rather suspicious in itself.

Marinette is at her new school, L’Accademia del Sogno with her schedule in her hand she’s trying to find her classes and suddenly the bell rings and a surge of students appear from different classrooms chatting, walking, laughing doing what students do eventually the hall clears as students go to their next class but Marinette still hasn’t found hers, she’s taken routes to different classrooms, hallways and even the cafe but hasn’t had any success in finding her designated class, in this moment Marinette sighs and reaches for her small purse, opens it to nothing inside but it's obvious she was expecting something or someone to be there….eventually she finds her first class, Fashion History and sits at an empty seat as the class hasn’t started yet, so sign of her teacher and only 2 students are there.

She decides to open her book and take notes anyways and then abruptly; a girl appears near Marinette she smiles at her and says, “You must be Marinette!” Marinette is surprised and says “Yes, that’s me, and you are….” seeming confused she narrows her gaze.

The girl happily and confidently says “Isabella! Isabella Bianchi, I’m the student ambassador” Isabella takes her seat next to Marinette and then it clicks for Marinette. Isabella knows who Marinette is because she’s apart of the school’s administration and likely saw her on an internship.

The girls conversate in side talk as their teacher, Mr. Bernard begins the class. Mr. Bernard is a tall, brooding serious man who appears to be academically rigorous and assigns the class on day one a paper on the history of Italian fashion, some students sigh at this as they dread the paper. As Marinette is outside the class looking on her schedule, Isabella leaves out and waves at Marinette, Marinette smiles waving back. She takes a closer look at her schedule and sees that she has ballet, Marinette’s eyes visibly largen alittle at this class choice and she walks slowly to the school’s vanity lounge, sits her backpack and purse down, unties her pigtails allowing her hair to fall freely on her shoulders, she faces the mirror looks at herself within it before taking a small pink scrunchie and tying all her hair back into a bun with only few loose hairs out.

The angle cuts to Marinette putting on a leotard, tights and pink ballet slippers as she finally applies leg warmers. And is trying to balance herself as she leaves the room and has to make it to class. As she’s about to enter the large doors of the ballet studio room she leans on the door accidentally falling inside the room as the students inside are startled by the fall and at Marinette, everyone looks in curiosity as she’s a new student and the ballet instructor Mistress Viviana glances at Marinette in disapproval at her late arrival as she speaks to a group of ballet students on the other side of the studio.

Her violet eyes flash the screen as Marinette’s does as well in apprehension. Viviana announces for the class to get in a single line as she calls attendance again and the class (which is an all-girls class) are called by their names “Olivia, your tights are ripping at the seam, Lucia your shoes are too big for your feet, you will fall, Renata, your leotard is supposed to be pink not blue, this is my 3rd time telling you this, Layla chin up, Mia learn to focus your gaze..” and then she stops at Marinette who is visibly nervous to be called upon next.

“Barinette” Marinette looks at Viviana and smiles lightly and says, “It’s Marinette….” Viviana goes from walking aside the girls to facing Marinette directly and responds “ah, Marinette” as she walks past Marinette, Marinette relaxes her shoulders momentarily.

But, Mistress Viviana turns back around to face Marinette and walks slowly towards her again and gets close to Marinette’s face directly “I’ll allow your early late slip up to go unnoticed…but just this once, let it occur again, and there won’t be another time for you, Barinette” she narrows her gaze at Marinette very cool and still as Marinette tenses up in response and Mia and Layla attempt to glance at one another hoping not to be caught by Mistress Viviana. Viviana has the girls demonstrate alignment, turnout, core engagement, poise, balance, and coordination which most do well however then it's time for leaps. And the group appears serious and focused, each girl goes after the other and then it was suddenly Marinette’s turn, and she leaped but not coordinated, neat, or perfect in Viviana’s eyes and the girls all watch in horror as they know what's next. Viviana comes to Marinette “Barinette, try again” and Marinette tries again again and again but it doesn’t satisfy Viviana, and she slaps her own face in secondhand embarrassment. As class is dismissed a girl appears, slim, fair with blue eyes and platinum blonde hair, her clothing and bag is pink and has the name “Giselle” on it as Viviana turns in joy to greet the girl “ah! Giselle! My star lead!” Giselle smiles lightly and says “hello madam it’s good to see you” Giselle’s accent is rich and thick, and she has a polished and proud demeanor, when she walked in the other ballet students watched and talked amongst themselves.

However, Marinette doesn’t go unnoticed by Giselle who sees her leave out as Viviana speaks to Giselle. Marinette, a big emotional mess, leaves the class unsure what to do and how to learn ballet as Mia and Layla hesitantly follow her. As she’s out of the school Layla reaches for her shoulder “hey…. Marinette?” Marinette frowns as she looks back to see Mia and Layla standing there with concerned looks on their faces. “I didn’t mean to startle you, I’m Layla” “Yeah and I’m Mia” Layla starts to talk “we saw your tumble back there, are you…alright?” The girls are visibly trying to check Marinette’s temperature, and Layla even winces as she rubs her own arm. Marinette sighs and looks away from the two in disappointment “No… I’m not alright. I don’t know how to dance; this is all new to me…I’ve never done ballet a day in my life, and I already made a total mess of myself…” she mumbles out the last part. Mia and Layla sit at Marinette’s sides and Mia talks “hey no biggie, don’t beat yourself up too much about it we all have to start from somewhere. When I started ballet, I looked like a baby duck who just learned how to walk so” Mia starts to laugh and Layla joins her remembering this incident “Omg do you remember when I couldn’t even do the twists?” Layla asks Mia “OMG yeah I do, total secret to take to the grave” as the two laugh at each other’s past imperfections. Marinette smiles lightly and assured at the girls.

The next day, Marinette is awakened by the bright morning light coming through her window as she smells fresh Frappuccino's being made at La Doce Vita Rooftop Cafe. Marinette grabs her bag, shoes, and helmet and rides her pink Italian motorcycle over the cafe, and when she enters the bell above her rings and she’s met with a handsome stranger’s face, Tall, brown haired, silver foxy eyed guy and he’s flipping the dough behind the counter while welcoming guests in he says “why hello, madam what may I get you today~?” and Marinette’s cheeks instantly flush but she’s able to talk fine with the him and tells him she’d like a cannoli with strawberry filling and quickly rolls the dough for her cannoli's, injects the strawberry creme and gives them to her at her table all soft and warm. The two hold eye contact for a split second longer before he’scalled back in the kitchen which Marinette giggles at. She watches the city from the window and the pink hues in the sky meet the orange and an older couple are out walking their small dog; Marinette is in awe at this and starts Daydreaming about riding on the motorbike of a tall and fair stranger. She stays at the cafe for hours designing as new customers come in, and old ones leave out the angle flashes to Leo at the counter who is paying attention to Marinette attentively as he multitasks.

But Marinette is only sketching drafts and is having a hard time thinking of new designs. After a while she leaves disappointed in herself and the lack of thoughts that aren’t coming to her head. Walking away, defeated, Leo grabs his coat and catches up with Marinette saying “hey! Wait up!” Walking fast but not running and Marinette glances behind her to see him as he catches up to her, he offers her a bag of fresh cannoli and Marinette thanks him kindly for them. The pair walk Milan together as the sun is close to setting and the pink-purple-orange hue in the sky is returning. Leo curiously asks Marinette what she’s doing in Milan as he’s never seen her around and she tells him she’s been accepted into the prestigious fashion school, L’ Accademia del Songo and Leo is visibly impressed by this and states that he has a cousin who attends, much to Marinette’s pleasure and their conversation extends beyond this point into hobbies, family, personal feelings. Leo reveals to Marinette that his mother died a couple of years ago to dementia and that she was his inspiration and reason for getting into photography. His father, who happens to be a very skilled chef and cook, opened the cafe of making soup that had rosemary herbs in it would cure his mother, unfortunately it only helped her briefly but didn't overall cure her memory loss and cognitive deterioration. Though Leo’s father remains upbeat, confident and functional, he knows deep down he’s hurt inside, and Leo himself is still trying to find his muse. He takes an interest in photography as he tells Marinette because it “forever captures the essence of memory that time can’t replace” 

Marinette is called to Mr. Damoclès office as he had personalized news to share with her. He reveals that he had been contacted by the principal of L'Accademia del Sogno, an italian fashion school who wants Marinette to transfer on an internship. Mr. Sorgiano saw Marinette's work through the news and on Gabriel Agreste's runway and believes she'd be an amazing additional touch to their school. Marinette is hesitant to take the offer as her duties as Ladybug, and to Paris are calling her but eventually gives herself a day to decide, Tikki emotionally but ultimately gives Marinette a bittersweet message of following her dreams and what her true heart desires, she's been Ladybug for years and it's time for her to rest and find what she truly wants out of life, I'll always be proud of you" Marinette's eyes widen at this not expecting Tikki to say this and ultimately decides to leave...she takes off her earrings, places them in their box and....with Hawkmoth defeated (as gabriel is dead) but Lila still brewing she leaves the Miraculouses with Chat Noir after their last fight together. The mission was over. The city was quiet, its chaos subdued, and Ladybug stood beside Chat Noir on the rooftop, both of them catching their breath beneath the pale wash of moonlight. He turned to her, eyes still burning with adrenaline and trust, waiting for the debrief, the next step, the signal. But she didn’t speak. Instead, she reached into her yoyo and withdrew a small velvet pouch—inside, three Miraculouses gleamed with latent power. She didn’t hand them to him. Not directly. With a subtle gesture, she activated the Peacock Miraculous, summoning a sentimonster replica of herself—emotionless, precise, and silent. It stepped forward, took the pouch, and placed it in Chat Noir’s hands. He blinked, confused, but before he could speak, the sentimonster vanished in a shimmer of light. Ladybug, still hidden behind a rooftop chimney, activated the Rabbit Miraculous and slipped backward in time, intercepting the moment just after the delivery. She severed the memory thread—clean, surgical, leaving no trace. When she returned to the present, Chat Noir stood alone, staring at the pouch in his hands, unable to recall how it got there. He would remember the mission. He would remember her presence. But not the transfer. Not the trust. Not the vulnerability. And that was the point. The next morning in the Agreste mansion Adrien wakes up with no memory whatsoever of what happened the night before and only sees the Miraculous box on his bedroom's couch. Plagg flashes infront of his face semi concerned "Adrien, u alright?" Adrien confusingly looks at Plagg "yeah?" glances at the box and picks it up "what's this?" Plagg's eyes widen "its...the-" Adrien glances at his kwami puzzled "what?" "Miracle box.....but what's it doing here?" Plagg confirms flying around the box "Wait....it'd only appear if-" his eyes widen again "No Marinette!!!!!!" he zooms to Adrien's large glass window. "What about Marinette? who is....Marinette" Adrien says gleefully unknowingly and then it's also evident that Adrien has no memory of even dating Marinette, or his relationship to Ladybug. all those memories, completely swiped. And after saying all her goodbyes, to her parents, her friends, and even tikki the day before, Marinette takes off to Milan.

Although I don't watch Miraculous Ladybug anymore, I see the surge of hate coming towards Marinette again, which is no surprise to me. She's being blamed yet again for keeping a secret from Adrien, this follows the same occurrences that happened seasons ago. The hate and fan disliking towards Marinette isn't new, it's existed since the earlier seasons of Miraculous, there's times where it dies down, sure but then the writers decide to make Marinette act out, self-sabotage, or completely regress and then it surges up again and everyone blames her for what's going wrong.

With that being said, I'm not shocked at season 6 and Marinette's characterization nor the treatment she's getting, just painfully disappointed. I thought by now, the writers would've improved their narrative skills and development but considering who the writers are (Thomas Astruc, I'm looking directly at you) that was a shot in the dark. And from the very beginning although I didn't know it yet, Marinette wasn't created to grow or truly develop into a well rounded character or central female protagonist who embodies girl power for younger viewers, but essentially....Marinette was created to be degraded. What started as quirky charm in seasons 1–3 turned into emotional degradation by season 6. This isn’t just bad writing. It’s narrative abuse. But first it begs the question, what is narrative abuse?

Narrative abuse is a storytelling pattern where a character—often the protagonist or a central figure—is repeatedly subjected to emotional degradation, humiliation, or regression without meaningful payoff, growth, or agency. It’s not just poor writing. It’s a systemic misuse of a character’s suffering to serve external plot mechanics, audience manipulation, or other characters’ development.

Humiliation as a recurring device: The character is embarrassed, degraded, or emotionally punished in ways that feel excessive or ritualized.

Regression over growth: Instead of evolving, the character is reset or made worse to maintain tension or humor.

Emotional labor without reward: The character absorbs guilt, trauma, or blame but receives no catharsis, resolution, or narrative justice.

Scapegoating for plot convenience: The character is blamed or sidelined to keep other arcs clean or to avoid resolving core conflicts.

Audience gaslighting: The narrative may frame the abuse as “quirky,” “funny,” or “necessary,” while denying the character dignity or autonomy.

Narrative abuse distorts the viewer’s emotional contract with the story. Instead of watching a character grow, we watch them suffer—again and again—while the writers refuse to let them heal, evolve, or reclaim control. It’s a form of symbolic violence disguised as entertainment. And Miraculous has clear examples of this.

Season 1: “Origins” & “Volpina”

Setup: Marinette is introduced as clumsy but well-meaning. Her crush on Adrien drives most of her behavior.

Abuse Indicator: In “Volpina,” Marinette instantly distrusts Lila and humiliates herself trying to expose her. The narrative frames her jealousy as irrational, even though Lila is lying.

Why It Matters: Early seeds of the “Marinette is always wrong” trope. Her instincts are correct, but she’s punished for them.

Season 2: “Zombizou”

Setup: Marinette tries to give Miss Bustier a gift and ends up causing chaos.

Abuse Indicator: She’s publicly embarrassed, blamed for the akumatization, and her good intentions are twisted into disaster.

Why It Matters: Her emotional labor is weaponized. She tries to be kind, but the narrative punishes her for it.

Season 3: “Chameleon”

Setup: Lila returns and manipulates everyone. Marinette tries to warn others.

Abuse Indicator: Marinette is gaslit by her classmates and even Adrien. She’s framed as jealous and irrational.

Why It Matters: The writers isolate Marinette socially and emotionally, despite her being right. It’s a humiliation ritual disguised as “lesson in tolerance.”

Season 4: “Truth” & “Lies”

Setup: Marinette becomes Guardian and tries to balance her responsibilities.

Abuse Indicator: She lies to Luka and Adrien to protect her identity, leading to emotional fallout and guilt spirals.

Why It Matters: Her role as Guardian is used to justify emotional isolation. She’s punished for following the rules the writers set.

Season 5: “Emotion” & “Pretention”

Setup: Marinette and Adrien begin dating, but she’s terrified of ruining it.

Abuse Indicator: Marinette becomes controlling, anxious, and stalker-coded. Her breakdowns are frequent and unflattering.

Why It Matters: Instead of showing growth, the writers regress her into obsessive behavior. Her trauma is amplified, not healed.

Season 6: “Re-creation” & “Action”

Setup: Marinette tries to manage her relationship and superhero duties.

Abuse Indicator: She’s portrayed as manipulative, emotionally unstable, and unable to trust Adrien. Her behavior mirrors Chloe’s.

Why It Matters: This is character assassination. The writers distort Marinette’s core traits to create drama, not development.

Pattern Summary:

She’s punished for being right.

Her emotional breakdowns are used for plot tension, not healing.

She’s scapegoated for others’ mistakes.

Her growth is reset every season.

By season 4, Miraculous Ladybug shifts Marinette from a flawed but endearing protagonist into a narrative scapegoat whose emotional breakdowns are ritualized for plot tension. Her role as Guardian amplifies her responsibilities while stripping her of support, agency, and catharsis. Instead of evolving, she’s trapped in a loop of secrecy, guilt, and romantic sabotage—coded as growth but functionally regressive. The writers repeatedly isolate her, punish her for following their own rules, and distort her core traits to manufacture drama. This isn’t character development—it’s narrative abuse disguised as storytelling. Marinette’s suffering becomes a plot device, not a journey, and the audience is expected to applaud her degradation as emotional depth.

The hate Marinette gets is a textbook case of fandom misdirection and gendered projection. She’s the emotional core of Miraculous Ladybug, yet fans often treat her like a villain for displaying anxiety, indecision, or emotional breakdowns—behaviors that are framed as “relatable” in male characters but “annoying” in female leads. Adrien, who repeatedly crosses boundaries as Chat Noir, is romanticized as charming and tragic, while Marinette is vilified for being cautious, secretive, or overwhelmed. Chloe, once the show’s designated bully, now gets more sympathy because her cruelty is framed as “trauma response,” while Marinette’s suffering is dismissed as overreacting. This isn’t just fandom bias—it’s a systemic failure to recognize emotional labor, especially when performed by a girl. The writers humiliate her, the fandom gaslights her, and the result is a protagonist punished for being human while others are rewarded for being harmful.

A lot of fans don’t hate Marinette because she’s “bad”—they hate her because the writers keep putting her in humiliating situations and never let her recover. Over time, people stop seeing her as a real character and start treating her like a joke. She cries, panics, lies, and breaks down because the story forces her to—but instead of asking why she’s acting that way, fans blame her for it. Meanwhile, Adrien gets to mess up, cross boundaries, and still be seen as sweet and misunderstood. Chloe gets a redemption arc or trauma excuse. Marinette gets none of that. She’s punished for being anxious, punished for keeping secrets, punished for trying to protect people—and fans treat her like she’s annoying or manipulative, even though the writers are the ones pulling the strings. It’s not that Marinette deserves hate. It’s that the story keeps humiliating her, and fans confuse that with her being “the problem.”

From a media ethics and representation standpoint, Miraculous Ladybug is problematic:

It features a female POC protagonist who is repeatedly degraded.

It romanticizes boundary violations (e.g., Chat Noir’s behavior).

It punishes emotional vulnerability, especially in girls.

It gaslights viewers by framing trauma as comedy or romance.

It has a toxic fandom culture that defends harmful writing and attacks critics.

These issues aren’t just narrative flaws—they reflect deeper cultural failures in how media treats female leads, emotional labor, and viewer intelligence

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Summary

The series follows the 6 teens as they tackle city-wide threats while juggling school, relationships, and personal struggles. The 6 come into possession of ancient relics imbued with the essence of six different elements. These relics were created by a powerful underground ancient warden who once guarded Venice's hidden secrets. When a dark force seeks to harness the elements for its nefarious plans, the students are chosen to wield the elemental powers and protect the balance of both their world and the magical realm.The team’s dynamic evolves as they uncover secrets, face betrayals, and build unbreakable bonds.

Plot Elements

Ancient Warden

A legendary guardian who once protected Venice's hidden secrets and the balance of the elements. The warden entrusts the relics to the students, knowing they are the key to stopping the impending threat.

Elemental Relics

Each student is connected to a relic that grants them control over a specific element. These relics are ancient and powerful, holding the essence of nature's fundamental forces.

Dark Force

An ancient and malevolent entity seeks to merge the elements to gain ultimate power and plunge the world into chaos. The students must prevent this catastrophe by mastering their elemental abilities.

Characters

Isabella Bianchi/Wisp

Age: 16

Birthday: May 14th

Birthplace: Honolulu, Hawaii

Height: 5'4

Civilian Name: Isabella Bianchi

Element: Air (Weather)

Powers: Control over wind and weather elements like rain and lightning.

Personality: Bold, adventurous, and energetic spontaneous.

Dynamic: Often finds herself in conflict with more cautious members but learns the value of patience and strategy.

Roxxi Ferarri/Electra

Age: 17

Birthday: November 9th

Birthplace: Milan, Italy

Height: 5'2

Civilian Name: Roxxi Ferrari

Element: Lightning (Speed)

Powers: Superhuman speed, cloud manipulation, storm manipulation, agility, and lightning manipulation.

Personality: prickly, agile, confident, strong-willed, rebellious

Dynamic: The underdog of the team, always breaking convention and pushing herself over the limit. Shares a strong friendship with Isabella often acting as her grounding influence.

Mia Carbone/Aquana

Age: 17

Birthday: July 18th

Birthplace: Saint Martin

Height: 5'5

Civilian Name: Mia Carbone

Element: Water (Illusions)

Powers: Creating illusions, mind manipulation, and mental projections.

Personality: Mysterious, clever, and slightly distant.

Dynamic: Has a complex past that she keeps hidden, causing trust issues within the group. Her enigmatic nature intrigues and frustrates her teammates.

Layla Ricci/Flamespire

Age: 16

Birthday: August 16th

Birthplace: Bordeaux, France

Height: 5'7

Civilian Name: Layla Ricci

Element: Fire

Powers: Pyrokinesis, creating and controlling fire.

Personality: Hot-headed, passionate, and fiercely protective.

Miraculous: The Monarchy pt.1

Summary

Marinette Dupain-Cheng, our beloved protagonist, is now a confident and stylish young woman pursuing her dreams of becoming a renowned fashion designer. She has landed an internship at a prestigious fashion school in Milan Italy. With the city's vibrant energy and fashion-forward atmosphere, Marinette is ready to take on new challenges and adventures.

New Characters

Leo Romano: A handsome, kind-hearted photographer with a keen eye for beauty and detail. Leo is captivated by Marinette's unique style and talent. Unknown to Marinette, she has become his secret muse, inspiring his best work. Leo's gentle and supportive nature gradually wins Marinette's heart. He is patient, modest, and above all, very intelligent. Depsite not having much bug success in his work he works at a Cafe with his father near Marinette's grandma, Gina's apartment.

(Leo's fathers cafe, La Dolce Vita Rooftop Cafe)

(Mia on the left, Layla on the right)

Mia and Layla: Two charismatic and talented ballerinas who are also fashion enthusiasts. They attend the same fashion school as Marinette and quickly become her close friends. Mia is a spirited and outgoing girl with a passion for vintage fashion, while Layla is elegant and poised, with a love for haute couture. Together, they form a strong bond over their shared love for fashion and dance.

Marinette's life in Milan is a whirlwind of excitement and creativity. As she navigates the challenges of her internship, she finds solace in her newfound friendships with Mia and Layla. The trio often spends their afternoons at dance studios, perfecting their ballet routines and discussing the latest fashion trends.

In the midst of her busy schedule, Marinette crosses paths with Leo. Initially, she is unaware of his admiration for her, but as they collaborate on various projects, a deep connection begins to form. Leo's genuine interest in her work and his constant encouragement boost Marinette's confidence, allowing her to flourish in both her personal and professional life.

With the support of her friends and the love of a devoted photographer, Marinette embraces her destiny as a fashion designer and finds happiness in the heart of Italy.

Themes:

Self-Confidence: Marinette's journey from a shy and awkward girl to a confident and successful woman.

Friendship: The strong bond between Marinette, Mia, and Layla, and how their friendship helps them grow and succeed.

Love and Admiration: The blossoming romance between Marinette and Leo, based on mutual respect and admiration.

Pursuing Dreams: Marinette's determination to achieve her goals and the support she receives from her friends and loved ones.

As Chat Noir he does it all the time.

And for the reason he knows he can't be punished for it bc no one knows its him

In Stoneheart/Origins, he’s literally still defending Chloe, despite seeing first-hand how she treats the people around her. And he continues to defend her for three seasons straight. In Despair Bear, when he’s supposedly “holding her accountable” he literally laughs when she makes Mylene and Rose cry at the end of the episode

In Stormy Weather he’s literally just standing there taunting the Akuma, further provoking it. And then when Marientte helps him off the ground, he grabs her hand and kisses it, even though he knows he doesn’t have consent. In Bubbler, he’s literally willingly allowing all of his classmates to be held hostage by an Akuma, and only gets his act together to save them once it stops being fun for him.

Here are some links to my posts calling it out.

https://www.tumblr.com/dragonbugsuperior/649678977952366592/adriens-manipulation-and-how-he-manipulates?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/dragonbugsuperior/648671894848028672/thomas-is-a-racist-misogynistic-sexist-predator?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/dragonbugsuperior/648365394556502016/thought-would-if-marinette-were-a?source=share

Marigami

ranks at the top because of the their interesting dynamic though they were off to a rocky start due to them being rivals for Adriens affection. I find their moments in the show to be funny, cute, and amusing. (They both enjoy drawing which would be a cute date) I also feel like Kagami would make a great candidate for Ladybugs partner. Shes smart, articulate, efficient, and determined to succeed. Marinette teaching Kagami how to be open with other people and herself, and Kagami teaching Marinette how to be more comfortable in her skin. One of my headcanons and theory is that while everyone may assume Kagami is the top in the relationship its actually marinette, another theory of mine is that Kagami is the top and Marinettes a bratty bottom but canonically they give me switch energy. However like other things and relationshis in the show its a shame how their interactions aren't explored more or touched upon beyond their liking to the same bland white guy (who doesn't deserve either)

Lukanette

This ship is a very sweet ship to me and one that I shipped awhile ago (when it was first introduced) I believe on of the many reasons Adrien stans and love square shippers hated Luka so much was because he did what Adrien couldn't. He's able to give Marinette actual good advice (*cough cough* Adrien take notes) Marinette is comfortable around him so we dokt get embarassing cringey 24/7 and......say it with me everyone

Respects.

Her.

Boundaries.

Awe what's wrong? Adrichat can't do this? What's that?

Ur favorite white catboy is unable to respect his love interests boundaries? But Luka can? Awwww...too bad.

He doesn't push Marinette further than what she's comfortable with and many Adrien stans argue that this makes Luka "bland" (since when is respecting someone bland???) Other than that I like their interactions in Canon, I'm glad he's one of the very few people marinette can actually talk to and doesn't get embarassed around. It feels good to know she liked a guy and was actually able to talk to him. One of my most unpopular and controversial theories is that Luka would make a pretty decent deuteragonist. Seeing how the writers pretty much wrote Luka & Kagami off so they wouldn't tear the love square (they really weren't going to anyway) and broke up the only actual healthy romantic relationship Marinette had, (because Marinette can't have nice things, am I right?) I know for sure there's no reviving Lukanette despite this, it still makes the top of the list. RIP to a really good healthy relationship✊🏾😔

Chloedrien (fanon)

This ship surprisingly ranks high. I can see them together especially in fanon. But because the writers are incompetent in the progression department and development their Canon relationship is definitely lackluster. Chloe invades Adriens space, he's visibly uncomfortable (feel familiar?) Chloe complains about her "Adrikins" Yada Yada. However if the show were written differently and Chloe actually talked to Adrien in attempts to strengthen their friendship I can see a good relationship.

Fela

Not you....

You.

This ship only interests me friendship wise. I can't see Lila and Felix together as a couple in spite of the similar personalities manipulative, cunning, discreet, calucating, and sly. I see power imbalance, trying to outsmart and manipulate each other and both of them being unable to think of anyone but themselves. Which is why a friendly alliance between both anatognists suits better because I can see them easily challenging Marinette and Adrien.

*signs*

Green eyed monsters

Nialya

This Canon couple is pretty decent, the feelings are mutual and we see many episodes with both being concerned about the other one (which is cute) and the consistent normal interactions they have are okay I can definitely see Alya being the dominant one in the relationship.

Lukagami / fanon /

It fanonically works better due to reasons (I'll list for Canon version) but in fanon they work pretty okay. I can see like Marinette & Adrien they're supposed to be opposites despite them having few interactions in the show. It'd be nice see their different personalities communicate. I cant say too much abt them.

Fecloe

This pairing is a easy hit or miss. I can understand them relating to each other as far as their dysfunctional families but I see Chloé annoying Felix with ease. She'd be a childish distraction (i argue the same with her relationship with Lila) and Felix would break up her instantly Felix is the type to basically desensitize himself from any emotions and rationalizes everything. And Chloe already an insecure brat with a touch of entitlement and narcissism is the cherry on top of it all. And with the direction the writers are attempting to go with Felix (being a antihero and having a moral gray compass) I don't see him supporting Chloes unexplained Bullying (which is rlly annoying bc why exactly do we sill not know Chloes reason behind Bullying people especially Marinette for so long?) But yeah this is one of those pairs they could be alright acquaintances at best but....romantically no. And working together? Hell no.

Alyanette

It's already bad enough their friendship isn't healthy with alya not respecting marinettes feelings or boundaries actively going against marinettes wishes and attempting to get her and Adrien together (physically holding her hands in place likes thats totally ok) thinking she knows what's best for marinette than marinette herself and not even trusting Marinette enough to believe she wouldn't do certain things (but a girl u just met can be trusted?) The OOC writing these past seasons is so painful to watch it makes my ass itch. I can already see her being overbearing and domineering in the dynamic. In Canon their personalities complement well however I don't see the connection romantically

Chlila

This dynamic is better as close acquaintances who help each other sometimes. (Keep in mind sometimes) Like Chloes relationship with Felix the one with Lila is no different as she would clash with her constantly. I also feel like Lila's the more rational one with the plan and Chloe is more impulsive and dives into things for the fun of it. Automantucally making their motives contrast and their characters. Their relationship reminds me alot of Cleo and Torelai's relationship (Monster high) I believe seeing more interactions between the two would be fun.

Lukagami / Canon/

Ah yes, the love rivals who could've served as good development and plot progression but like everything else with this garbage dump of entertainment, they never met their full potential. I don't ship this ship because it feels more like a way to bring them further away from the Love Square and just a way for people to say "hey on the bright side everyone wins!" But luka and kagami deserve better than to be casted as plot devices , which it feels like than it does a actual genuine ship and the only time we really seem them interact directly is in Determination which was centered around Marinette & Adriens relationship (its almost like they said "Hey! Fuck any progress we almost made, let's write the characters completely OOC and inconsistent moving forward. Either way the ship could work....but with how the show is already written I wouldn't pair them as a couple canonically.

Lukzoe

This ship isn't bad it's cute however I wouldn't pair them together canonically or in fanon I like how the writers already have Zoe liking Marinette and I honestly like Luka and alot of other characters without a relationship because I feel like it isnt needed. Though I feel like their friendship would be amazing.

Feligami

A controversial Canon ship that I had to recheck to see if it was actually Canon before saying

What the hell.

This ship is another hit or miss and to be honest I feel like the writers knew that they'd have to write Kagami and Felix OOC for this pairing to work in the first place. The pairing feels like a cop out for Kagamis unresolved feelings for Adrien and the writers went "Oh yea! Let's pair her with Felix, Adrien's "evil" twin" who happens to look just like Adrien just is less "Nice" having the ability to stand up for what he actually believes in and for Felix....I cant see him in a relationship. He's one of those characters that I feel does really well solo (like Lila) when u add people in the bunch it mushes his characterization up. They decide to pair them up in Representation and the two get into a secret relationship. They pair Kagami with Felix guys. The same guy who SH Ladybug, wiped all of Paris out (except for 3 people), as if that wasn't bad enough they have them both conspire a plan to deceive Marinette (so much for being marinettes friend). Kagami defends her newfound boyfriend to Ladybug and Chat Noir in Pretension. I liked Kagami better single, it's almost as if she had "more" braincells that way.

Lilanette

Aside from the pair being abusive and toxic, their interactions as enemies canonically are interesting. I'm interested in knowing just how far Lila's willing to go with Marinette with her lies and deceit, thus shipping doesn't work as a couple undoubtedly because of how abusive it is and I can't see Lila caring abt Marinette as much as Marinette would Lila (if she werent a villain) Feels more like a cat and mouse dynamic.

Lilalya

Lila and Alya feel lackluster to me and Canon makes my feelings on them no better. Their relationship in the show doesnt even make the slightest bit of sense. Firstly I'll say in the beginning when we first meet Lila her lies are believable but as time goes by and seasons go on the lies get less and less convincing and Lila isn't seen as this smart evil genius (she wasnt even before just a manipulative insecure teenage girl who wants attention wherever she can get it because her caregiver(s) neglect her ) the class including Alya shouldn't even be this dense still after 5 seasons in, just shows u how bad the writers of this show are at writing a believable consistent storyline and characters. I feel like Lila would love bomb Alya until she squeezes all the juicy information and benefits she can get from her then hang Alya out to dry.

Adrigami

I wouldn't have much of a problem with this ship if it weren't for.......the one and only notorious bland...blonde....the Adrien Agreste (the main reason I also don't support the love square) While I see them understanding where they both come from, I honestly can't see a what Kagami seen in Adrien. He's blander than oatmeal, and is described as not just by the Fandom but the shows creator himself "this perfect, innocent, catboy whos sheltered from the world and needs protecting and sympathy all. the. time. boo hoo. Not only did he lie to Kagami, which led to the breakup, but he technically cheated on her. by harassing his partner Ladybug (who clearly tells him she doesn't like it almost.every. episode.) while in a relationship with Kagami. Them being together doesn't feel rewarding seeing how he has treated her and how he treats other female characters in the show in general, especially Ladybug/Marinette. She deserves a lot better than what Adrien has to offer, and so does Marinette.

The Love Square

Ah yes, saved the best for last, this quadrupled pair ranks lowest of all for many reasons, if u didn't know by now, now u know I hate the Love Square and the message it sends the audience. If it isn't Marinettes forced embarrassment and humiliation to cover for the writers blatant misogyny and racism because Marinettes character persecution is set up as the shows comedy go to and her struggles are made out for a "good laugh" because thats really funny Thomas.....haha. Then theres Adriens problematic creepy predatory harassment towards Ladybug that's seen as generally "ok!" And cute and romantic *kiss kiss* he does as Chat Noir bc no one knows whos under the mask leaving him to get away scots free the general message it sends is its okay to keep harassing the target of your affections with enough determination and charisma added with a sob story you'll get them in the end. Doesn't matter if they're visibly uncomfortable or disgusted doesn't matter if they vocally say they don't reciprocate ur feelings all u gotta do is Try try try again!

Let's not even get started with how bad Adrien's jealousy gets....

Right.

He gets antsy whenever he sees a new Temp helping LB out as if he actually helps her in a major way anyway. He refuses to help her when she declines his romantic offers and grows really petty, snarky & sarcastic when things generally don't go his way with her. He doesn't take his job serious enough to even have his spot as a permanent miraculous holder and not to mention one of the most powerful miraculous there is "misusing the miraculous many and multiple times, making corny embarrassing puns and failed flirtations during battle essentially distracting Ladybug making her job harder. I honestly don't think it'd be much of a difference if he weren't chat noir.

Not to mention the double standard that exists between Marinette and Adrien in general

Marinettes' actions while problematic are checked in the show like her exaggerated obsessiveness, jealousy tendency, impulsive issues, and awkwardness around Adrien (and by many fans, sometimes to the point of bashing and purposely highlighting what has already been established) Adriens are all glossed over and we're expected to feel sorry for him. His dad abuses him and his mommy is nowhere to be found so now the writers use our female protagonist as emotional support when she herself needs emotional support. The writers are so bad at writing they can't even make the main couple communicate clearly and simply ever. Thomas himself goes out of his way to say to the world "Adrien is not flawed, the world is" yet his stans have the audacity to say mArinEtTes mOre Of a MarY sUe thAn He iS!. Her jealousy is called out but Chat Noirs is swept under the rug and is seen as her responsibility. Let's not mention how literally every female character that has had interest in Adrien has been pitted against Marinette but Luka, Nathaniel, and Adrien coexist just fine in kumbaya because remember kids

"Girls are spiteful petty backstabbing and catty while boys are practically angels who see each other as /bros/"

While also saying in the same breath this show is all about "girl empowerment " but has the white male deuteragonist harass, abuse, and manipulate our biracial female protagonist for 5 seasons straight, right?

If you like Adrien Agreste’s character, if you like Chat Noir, If you like Gabriel Agreste or Lila Rossi, any one of these characters you will unquestionably hate my blog. Especially Adrien stans, I dislike him for many reasons which should be obvious but aren’t unfortunately. Just feel free to hit that block button to avoid unnessecary problems and save me, yourself, and other tumblers the time. 

Love: Marinette, Kagami, Luka, Fei Wu, 

Like: Alya (50%), Nino, Rose, Juleka, Nathaniel, Marc, Max, Ivan, Mylene, Trixx, Tikki, Nathalie, Jessica Keynes, Alix, Anarka, Aeon

Meh (Indifferent) : Alya (50%), Chloe, Lila( 50%), Felix (50%), Sabine, Tom, Theo, Jagged, Sabrina, Manon, Armand, Aurore, Amelie, Clara Nightingale, Fred, Xavier, Andre, the Cesaire family, 

No: Felix(50%), Kim, Plagg, Andre