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i think that iwtv/tvl’s adaptational choices are a mixed bag but the one thing i am a total hardliner on is the end of qotd. if season 5 doesn’t end on this freaky ass loustat dialogue and an abrupt cut i will drop the show completely and i’m not joking in the slightest

#has there ever been a funnier ending to a novel. genuinely what was anne doing. so hilarious #every other season ends on a big cliffhanger like whatever. i need qotd to end on lestat’s degredation kink. no montage no nothing #qotd spoilers #loustat #the vampire lestat #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire louis #louis de pointe du lac #iwtv meta #iwtv s4 #queen of the damned #amc qotd #that and lesmand #they can’t fuck up lesmand. i’m giving the writers my patience and charity for s3 but they can’t fuck up lesmand in s4 i won’t allow it

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thinking about how lestat says "i know it's common gossip now, the first thing one thinks of when my name comes up" re: gabriella even though he's recording the failures after his very public involvement and supposed fault in an attempted global genocide, and then the next time we see him after that he's in raglan james' body and lestat de lioncourt is considered dead. daniel and armand gotta die IMMEDIATELYYYYYY

#the fact that he’s gonna be on stage in front of thousands of vamps who witnessed and shared it. made it gossip. 50k of em.#two centuries of abuse and then he doesn’t give a mf his body or a good interview and all of a sudden his name is forever tied to that #he got a new name! new passports! new body! and he can’t fucking escape her #the second rape for eternity #excited for daniel to die in s4 hashtag manifesting #tw inc*st #the vampire lestat #lestat de lioncourt #tvl meta #the vampire gabriella #gabriella de lioncourt #idk how to tag this #just kinda a sad one :(

y’know whatever adaptational complaints people have about tvl and the book stuff it left out, i think we should all celebrate how thoroughly they removed lestat’s friend-to-the-pedophile-community status. louis is NORMAL about his fourteen year old daughter and david talbot is DEAD and marius called lestat a FUDANSHI and now we have a lestat who doesn’t find his besties on the to catch a predator cast list

#lestat girl i love you but three pedophile close friends is crazy. like that’s a statistical anomaly #why was bookstat living like that one ‘i know hella predators but i hang with them to see how their minds work’ tweet #the vampire lestat #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire louis #louis de pointe du lac #david talbot #the vampire marius #marius de romanus #tvl meta #iwtv meta #tw pedophila mention #so glad david talbot is dead btw. like even if they removed the pedophilia i'm glad he's dead that mf was BORINGGGGG #like lestat was far too into him when the mf had no good qualities #same thing with taking out lestat's hunt for the loadbearing pedophile like we didn't really need that #i do kinda wish they at least kept one scene of lestat writing “marius pick me up i'm scared” on a pyramid or something

the issue with any sort of hannibal/iwtv crossover is that claudia would meet abigail and immediately be like “omg we’re so similar, i’ve never met anyone so like me before… but i’m so much more twisted, and she’s disgusted by this darkness inside of us both… if only i could change her so she’d finally embrace her true self and my love with it…” and then she’d be struck by the horrible realization that she’s simultaneously acting like her mother AND her mother-in-law

#if we don't keep her away from cathedrals and 3 piece suits she may transform into the ultrafag and earth just can't sustain that #plus loustat and hannigram would both be so overprotective all their dates would have four chaperones watching from a distance #claudigail #is that a thing?#abigail x claudia #claudia x abigail #unholy family #murder family #the vampire claudia #claudia de lioncourt #abigail hobbs #abigail lecter #hannigram #loustat #iwtv au #hannibal au #god this is a pain to tag #also it'd be a mess in a lot of ways but i genuinely believe that loustat would've never gotten divorced if hannibal and lestat were friend #would hannibal try to make him worse? probably yes. but two dumb bitches saying exactlyyyyyy is better than a lonely lestat #the only issue is lestat would keep offering immortality and hannibal would have to explain that he REALLY likes human meat #meanwhile louis and will would be completely convinced they're gonna cheat with their clone in a wig #and claudigail could use that distraction to flee to europe!

its so sad that lestat became a rockstar bc he's so clearly destined for musical theatre. he literally founded an evil goth french polyamorous theatre kid coven before the electric light, broadway could not handle his ass and he'd flourish in that environment like a well-watered corpse flower. the only reason they didn't do this as the plot for s3 is bc the great conversion vampires simply don't have broadway money

#obvi s3 lestat's crazy ass wouldn't be able to hold down 8 shows a week but if his life was in order he'd have a tony #but also has there ever been a better frank n furter cast? the emcee? the phantom would be too triggering but yk he'd kill it #the vampire lestat #lestat de lioncourt #iwtv meta #tvl meta #theatre des vampires #broadway au #louis in nyc just trying to stalk a waitress when he sees his husband has for some fucking reason made a broadway debut #i feel like lestat would get around the daytime shows by subtly living in the walls of the theatre and making tons of shitty poto jokes #people would try to meet him at the stage door and his costars would very sadly inform them that lestat is homeless

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the other good thing about iwtvl being so unabashedly queer is that it gets to avoid the weird ass corner the books backed themselves into with the whole blood-drinking-as-a-metaphor-for-sex thing.

like okay, consensual draining is sex, and nonconsensual draining is rape, alright. okay and they have to drain/kill humans every day. uh huh that’s a bit. alright. okay and the blood can give them superpowers? like lestat can fly because he got nonconsensually drained? maybe let’s slow down and. and the blood is a carcinogen that slowly turns their entire bodies into smooth translucent polymer from the aliens and also turns black people white. okay. okay anne let's just have a vampire doctor give lestat dick pills we don't need to keep going with this

#show only fans were complaining about blood piss like bitch you have no idea how good you have it. they could be translucent rn.#louis still has his melanin and nobody is smoothened and everybody's dick works and you're upset about the blood piss?#the vampire chronicles #tvc #iwtv #iwtv meta #the vampire lestat #anne rice vampires #it should also be noted that tvc vampire blood is highly combustible #which means that theoretically if you fully drained enough ancient vampires and took their solid clear polymer flesh/bones/organs #with some elbow grease you could construct a fully functional invisible car made entirely of vampire corpses #fareed's next project when he gets bored of medicine

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being an amc iwtv fan and then deciding to pick up the books nearly gave me transition sickness tbh

like in the show they’re canonically married with a teenage daughter whom they love and have a complicated parental dynamic with, and lestat is going on monologues about how much he loves louis at least once an episode. the first ~100 pages of the novel are just “oh yeah so that’s bipolar lestat and his pedophile roommate he doesn’t really like”

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i didnt spam “i hate book louis” in an iwtv discord server for no reason…

book louis is really just a miserable racist creep our amc ldpdl could never ❤️‍🩹

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okay well let’s give amc!louis the credit he deserves that boy ABSOLUTELY can be miserable. spends most of his screentime miserable tbh he just auramogs book!louis so bad that his (much more justified) misery comes across all french and poetic and beautiful whereas book!louis is just some pedophile slave owner who won’t shut up

#amc!louis can also be a creep but even then he mogs book!louis so much #like amc!louis is taking advantage of a young woman because of his soul-crushing grief. book!louis was just a pedophile for fun #i’ll be the first to say amc!louis’ relationship w claudia was abusive but at least he never said ‘father and daughter lover and lover’#BRO WHAT??#SHE’S FIVE????????#why would i listen to your philosophical musings on the existence of god and morality you called a 5yo your lover #amc louis #book louis #the vampire louis

honestly it’s so romantic that loustat are BOTH schizophrenic for eachother. like obviously louis already had a genetic predisposition brought out by the trauma of murdering his soulmate and the severe social isolation of the years spent in post wwii europe but lestat literally just missed his husband so bad he started hallucinating him at work. not even doing anything either like she just wanted to see his face </3

#loustat au where they meet in the psych ward and with their combined efforts the staff has to triple both their stays #it’s vital to know that this au is specifically about keeperstat mania and meowinglou paranoia #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire lestat #loustat #louis de pointe du lac #the vampire louis #dreamstat #halloucination #schizophrenic louis #my beloved #not even actually gonna call lestat schizophrenic. who even knows what he has going on (aside from bpd and hpd and being girlypop)#the halloucination is so interesting to me bc i kept seeing ppl say it was lestat’s ‘ideal’ louis when like. i think it was his nightmare #like lestat light-myself-on-fire-see-if-you’d-notice de lioncourt? that lestat wants a silent virginal bride w no reaction to his art? huh?#which is also why paul telling lestat that louis loves him in the finale is so meaningful. lestat has always feared the silence!#that was what armand the expert lestat predictor said! from gabi to nicki to claudia to louis! and now ily is unspoken but not silent </3 #i love their crazy asses sm. peak romance. make more schizophrenic yaoi!!!!!!!!!!!!

consensual lesmand is such a baffling adaptational choice to me bc did we forget how insane armand's game was? he was hitting lestat with lines like "you long for me and i for you, and we alone in all this realm are worthy of each other. don't you know this?" like? that's crazy??? let's be so realistic here if armand didn't do something horrible to scare lestat off they'd be married with somewhere between zero and far too many children and the plot wouldn't happen

#armand showed up right when lestat was jobless and his fledglings were in the terrible twos he had to fumble HARD to fumble that #like i'm not saying lestat is easy but he's certainly not difficult. especially not for armand like? how'd he fuck that up?#tvl meta #the vampire lestat #lestat de lioncourt #lesmand #armandstat #lestat x armand #armand de romanus #the vampire armand #also when i say “between zero and far too many children” i mean santiago is going to forcibly adopt himself into that marriage #lestat's thot daughter activity and blonde hair and constant dramatics and general bitchiness plus armand's control freak shit?#he'd feel so seen #whether they wanted to see him or not #found family in the finders keepers losers weepers way

okay so ik we know absolutely nothing about s4 and how they'll adapt queen of the damned, but i'd like to place one single bet before the cards are on the table: gabriella and akasha are fucking

#hear me out alright! they have shared interests like travelling the world and machiavellian schemes and abusing lestat #and we know gabi declares they're not a mother and akasha declares she's lestat's mother. it's found family <3 #queen of the damned #the vampire akasha #akasha qotd #akasha x gabriella #gabikasha? there must be a better option #gabrielle de lioncourt #gabriella vece #the vampire gabrielle #iwtv s4 #we fucking won #i'm so glad its confirmed! i am choosing to take sam reid not cutting his hair and gossip from my neighbours to mean it might not be 2 year #am i absolutely terrified for how they're gonna adapt this character and how the fandom will react to it? yes!#so very scared! terrified even! but maybe gabriella and akasha are fucking. who knows #not excited for more rape though. hashtag save lestat

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all these people saying “lestat isn’t transfem” is how i know you guys skipped out on doing ANY musical analysis at all in season 3 because they literally couldn’t have made it any more clear in this one

#i swear to god i’m not lying i got a prep ad while listening to this. like one of those popups covered lestat’s face with ‘GET TURNED ON’#it’s like she never listened to femtanyl but instead heard every femtanyl fan’s attempt at synth and went based off of that instead #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire lestat #tvl meta #tvl music #femstat #genderstat #i try very hard to like lestat’s music but wow. even i couldn’t resist laughing #it’s fine actually. i’m a kpop fan i can persevere this is nothing. iwtvtwt is basically the same as stantwt anyway

liking the iwtv show and the og books is a humiliation ritual because my dad's favourite novel got a show and his notes are like "they changed a character playing pokemon go to the same character texting" and my book gets adapted and my notes are like "they removed narratively important rape numbers three and five" and now i look like a psychopath who's rooting for more rape

#how am i supposed to say that i wish they kept in the book lesmand dynamic without sounding like i want more rape #i don't. i really don't! it's not my fault anne rice wrote so many narratively important rapes! blame anne rice!!!#tw sa mention #tvl spoilers #kinda #tvl meta #iwtv meta #the vampire lestat #lesmand #akashastat #the other issue is that anne rice was writing rape that gives you superpowers which. yeah tricky to adapt!#like akashastat only half counts because they kept the plot important part and still made it a clear violation of lestat’s autonomy #which is the goal! i am happy with akashastat! not loving the marius presence but whatevs #lesmand however…

daniel’s professional reputation in-universe must be fucking crazy because he’s a two-time pulitzer winner who suddenly wrote a gay porno claiming that vampires were real and then filmed a cash-grab documentary about the barely popular tribute band for his book that ended in a politically motivated anti-vampire assassination. AND THEN he chose to promote that documentary on his youtube channel by doing a couples vlog with the villain character from his vampire novel (in the sun mind you) who said “by the way that rockstar is actually alive and being molested by his mother. here’s footage!” like have they called for a wellness check or rescinded his pulitzer yet or what

#like to a human audience he just spread revenge porn of jarda klapek and some lady and then said his spinal tap ripoff had an incest twist #and also for some reason decided psychological abuse jigsaw had to be the one to deliver the message while looking at him gayly #tvl spoilers #iwtv s3 spoilers #tw inc*st #tvl meta #iwtv meta #daniel molloy #the vampire daniel #devils minion #armand de romanus #the vampire armand #also did people care? like we didn't see much fallout from that (duh and also THANK GOD) but over 50k still attended the concert so?#lestat said early on that its all people ever talk about anymore so i would assume as much but also who's gonna believe armand #armand? being interviewed by daniel molloy? we've played these games before cmon now #ig he does have a cult though. so who knows!

i understand how the constant repetition of "it's a gothic romance" can sound really condescending to people with iwtv/tvl criticism but i really do think some of us came into s3 with wildly different expectations. personally, i didn't expect anybody i liked to feel happy or do good things or face any sort of justice. and i was right! and i had a wonderful time watching this season and i think it was generally well written and i'm genuinely really sad not everybody could have the same experience. like really sad. like it gives me stomach pain this is not a joke.

edit: okay so i’d like to re-state that this post was NOT about anybody criticizing racism in the show, fandom, etc. nothing in the show/genre means antiblack violence is a given and it’s weird for people to act like it is. this whole thing was about a different topic that clearly i didn’t word very well and i’m sorry it came across as minimizing or apologia, it wasn’t intended to be.

#like seriously guys can we please all try rewatching the season in full with full-picture expectations of the tone and themes and prioritie #please. do it for me. do it for me and my stomach pain. this isn't even a joke i fr get hyperfixation related stomach cramps/nausea #tvl #tvl meta #iwtv meta #mini rant #obviously this doesn't apply to all tvl criticisms #like the antiblack violence isn't a gothic romance thing. i didn't expect that either. that's very valid criticism #but some of the tvl criticism i've seen just seems like not everybody was ready to meet the show on its own terms and then got upset #like bringing out lists of lestat's transgressions as proof that his “redemption arc” (not what the show was doing) didn't work #girl he kills people. yeah whatever he's a john and he misgendered someone he also has been a serial killer for 200+ years #why would the show spend time quantifying everybody's sins. they kill people. nothing in this show was ever gonna be fair and just #like if it makes sense for the characters/themes/narrative then why would you be upset? did the first two seasons not do the same? how???#genuine question. how. how did s1 and s2 not make it clear that the show is concerned exclusively with the characters and not morality?#like was there something i missed in s1/s2 that implied there would be justice for anyone at all ever? let alone in s3?#i don't really get how so many fans were so blindsided by stuff that seems so clear to me and it makes me sad that they're all mourning iwt #i thought we all liked the show :(((

the issue is that as overjoyed i am that femstat stocks are up and canon, i can’t really cheer for lestat having a transfem moment because i know akasha is gonna start her 8 step forcemasc plan SECONDS into s4. putting corsetstat into all those promos was the iwtv equivalent of giving your dog a bar of chocolate before you euthanize it

#esp when book!akasha’s whole reasoning was that she thought lestat was the ultimate man like.#???#girl are we talking about the same vampire rn? the one who’s been doing drag since the 1700s?#tvl spoilers #iwtv s3 spoilers #femstat #transtat #genderstat #detransitionstat. sorry honey #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire lestat #akashastat #akasha qotd #the vampire akasha #i imagine akasha’s reasoning is gonna be shifted to like. oooh violenceee #but it’s still so funny. watching all of humanity for centuries and deciding your manly man of choice is miss piggy #she’s lowkey like if a fag hag got a lot of the directions wrong. took a left at the wrong intersection and now her pet boyfriend is a girl #tfw you’re the queen of the damned and your prince consort is a queen of the drag variety

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thinking thoughts rn

#this is jesustat foreshadowing #and also! paulstat parallels!!! the birds!!!!! and baby lu chasing birds!!!!!! guys birds fucking kill people in iwtv!!!!!!!!!!!#very interesting adaptational choice. bookstat seeing his crimes to claudia as damnation vs showstat seeing his love for louis as salvation #not 100% sure how i feel about this yet #tvl spoilers #iwtv s3 spoilers #tvl the failures #tvl ep 7 #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire lestat #paul de pointe du lac #jesustat

episode 7 of the vampire lestat is a terrible time if you enjoy feeling happy but its an INCREDIBLE time if you think lestat de lioncourt is transgender. obviously those things shouldn't be mutually exclusive but in my experience they lowkey are

#what a fucking time to drop it too. yeah i just got beheaded and i am dying in 3 seconds but also! i wish i could be a girl #like we been knew but i was so shocked it happened THEN. they could've done canadian 9/11 again and i'd be less surprised #tvl spoilers #iwtv s3 spoilers #tvl the failures #tvl ep 7 #tvl finale #crazy that its over #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire lestat #femstat #genderstat #transtat #this isnt me implying ALL my femstat mutuals have depression just. yk. we wouldn't be obsessed with lestat de lioncourt if we liked joy #and lowkey i do think the timing is actually kinda great? like as a writing choice? like admitting that to nobody when on the verge of deat #its lowkey more transgender than if lestat dropped it on the bus yk. like hm you just had to get that out at the very end?#i see you girl #anyway can't wait to see rampant transmisogyny on my feed for the next eternity!!! yay!!!!!!

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