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There is no drug on earth that can replicate the absolute euphoria of hitting a writing flow state at 2:00 AM. You aren’t even typing anymore. You are a vessel. You are a channel for the gods. The characters are speaking directly into your brain and you’re just the stenographer trying to keep up. You feel like you could fight a bear. You feel like you invented the alphabet
What’s the quickest way to make them uncomfortable?
"Well, I guess we could start with you corning me in the cafeteria while I'm trying to dump my uneaten rice. It was too crunchy, FYI. Sensory issue, you understand. Besides the awkward timing of your curiosity, I guess the quickest way to make me uncomfortable would be coming in for an uninvited hug. Seriously. Unless we're very good friends, do yourself a favor and keep a few steps back, okay? People being too close seriously freaks me out."
What’s the quickest way to make them feel comfortable?
"Bring me a soft beastie to cuddle, a cup of tea, and leave me in a dimly lit room. It's that simple."
😅 I had forgotten about this! Thanks for the ask! @crqstalite
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and also did sana-rae and arcann also see it and are sitting on their mouths just as much?
@zod-off you as well :)
Hehehehhehe okay yes I was already writing a post and then you came into my inbox. I’m kicking my feet and twirling my hair hilariously enough because I can’t keep a secret to save my life. Also I like to yammer, clearly.
Cele saw a vision that Lioran had that showed her … well, for lack of better words, killing Zanya.
There were also other, more general horrors and apparitions that appeared during their travels because of the way the Force ebbed and flowed around in that region of Wild Space, which deeply affected Cele who can probably boast being incredibly connected to it. More than others maybe. And this is admittedly her biggest strength — and biggest weakness. Most of their travels were fine, without much to report besides what they did eventually find with Nul’s history after Sana-Rae arrived, but because she had Lioran’s holocron with her at the time, his powers had mingled in with her subconscious long enough to show a vision to her when she’d paused long enough during some downtime to consult it.
Some extra context before getting to the meat of this vision and why its so important.
Lioran was a seer, meaning he occasionally was able to tap into the Force to receive visions from it about the future. But it wasn’t his main ability nor was he trained deeply in it. He didn’t have others to interpret them for him (because he thought the notion was ridiculous), and often acted in the interests of the Empire with them. Most of the time, these were successful acts, so he took them as truth for the most part. None of his children besides Kivo inherited this ability, and Kivo had yet to receive adequate training in his — which were more on par with the Voss in how clear (and often destructive) they were — by the time he escaped the Empire.
I digress. The important part is that Lioran was one with the Force in a similar manner to Cele while he was alive (so her pure skill comes from him, less so Ekta) so him having visions beyond the Force after death is possible. It’s kinda like how Grandpa Kallig warns the Inquisitor about Zash, except Cele already doesn’t believe most of what he says. But Lioran is strong enough to override a lot of the Force “locks” she established on his holocron and ghost itself, he just often chooses not to. He enjoys biding his time, and seeing just how much prodding it takes to get Cele to open the holocron again. The more stressed she gets, the more interesting the struggle. The fact she even brought his holocron has him fascinated — it means that something has changed in her mental state, and he wants to know what it is at first, before priorities shift.
He chose to this time because the barrier between the Force and reality became very thin on that planet. Lioran didn’t need to fight against her to appear when her guard was already down, and the vision he’d received not weeks beforehand was becoming clearer in his mind. No longer was it something he wanted to hold over her head and watch her struggle — if he wanted to preserve his legacy, then he needed to tell her.
How altruistic of him…
A fight with her brother that was so clear in her mind, white and green blades clashing in the darkness. An argument she can’t recall, can feel the way it made her mouth fill with the taste of metal when the butt of Zanya’s blade drove into her jaw, but not the words that she’d said. Feeling so desperate, so hopeless, terrified, driven by revenge in her heart in an all-consuming plague on her senses … It had all lead to Cele gaining the upper hand and poising her blade above Zanya’s chest — then plunging it down.
That vision ended pretty abruptly there, and by then Arcann and Sana-Rae were attempting to rouse her from where she’d slid and nearly collapsed on the ground. It’d felt so real that it’d took a solid five minutes for her to come back to her senses completely and catch her breath long enough to realize it wasn’t something that had come to pass, and that her hands were still clean. She wasn’t anywhere near Odessen, and she couldn’t hurt her brother from here.
Cele is smart enough to know visions are never fully clear and that there’s always context missing, as well as that the Force was a fickle creature that often rarely was what it seemed to be, but it haunted her. It felt too real. Looked too real. Cele couldn’t tell what all of it had been about, but she needed it so desperately not to come to pass. Not her brother. Not now. She would do anything to keep him from being on the other end of her weapon, and she didn’t want him to die.
But … there was always some inkling of the truth in these visions. Cele was never able to figure which part of it was. She’d fought with Zanya in the past, yes, but she hadn’t had much reason to even consider in it in more recent times. So what in the blazes was this about? Could she ever be pushed to that much anger to outright kill him? Especially now, when they’d done so much to repair their relationship, but had been on rockier waters since the Alliance had been forced to choose a side to ally with?
Cele is terrified to say she doesn’t know.
Arcann and Sana-Rae in fact do not know about this, and presumed that she saw something about Nul that had disturbed her. Cele decided to shoulder the burden by herself because shes’s a) selfish and b) selfless. She doesn’t want to incite panic, and doesn’t want anyone to think less of her because of it — Cele thinks she can handle everything on her own. I think to some degree, with the connection that Cele and Arcann have built thus far, he’s pretty sure that she isn’t telling the whole truth — or any of it — but considering circumstances, doesn’t press her on it. He figures they’d talk later, but she clams up pretty hard afterwards and doesn’t get the chance to get anything out of her by the time they return to Odessen. Voss rolls around, and while she seems nearly back to normal, even happy to be back in the core systems, he’s understandably concerned. She’d ended up turning her attention back to him, and while he’s grateful for the support, he doesn’t get why she’s dodging his questions.
She consults Lioran eventually after the events of Voss, against her better judgement because she hates doing it.
Interacting with a Sith relic is already basically blasphemy as a Jedi, and the more she gets to know Lioran, the more of a pull she feels towards him. It is her father, she knows that much, but doesn’t exactly feel that familial tie very much. She doesn’t want to. If she admits wholeheartedly that he is connected to her, that she does have a long line of Sith blood running through her, it might crack her psyche even more than it already is. The only other person that knows she has his holocron is Osiris, and that’s because he gave it to her during the Zakuulan occupation. No one else knows that she sees his Force ghost either. She figures Osiris would never understand, and presumed it would be a short-term thing that she didn’t need to inform Zanya about. Protecting him, in a way.
… It’s been at least almost five or six years since she started seeing him (during Eternal Throne). I think that statute of limitations is very much up, but Cele isn’t taking steps to rectify this. Deep in her subconscious, she does want to know what knowledge Lioran possesses. Wants answers for the things that happened to their family that she can’t find otherwise. And figures if Zanya knew, he’d want the holocron destroyed. All Cele knows is that her brothers hated him. And she should too, but the possibilities are just too great.
Lioran, as in that episode tease, is a bit elusive at first, but does share that it was a vision he had that he imparted upon her directly because of how important he felt it was. He’s more concerned than flighty about it, already a bad sign considering how casually he usually appears to her. It isn’t as if he has a full grasp on why it occurred that way, and while Odessen is strong in the Force, he can’t cross the boundary like he did there to help her parse through it in any way. He has a vested interest in his lineage not dying to pitiful infighting between siblings (father of the year doesn’t care about Osiris part ???, knows Kivo is no longer with the Empire and doesn’t expect Kadasha to live past thirty), but also has a deep and unsettling feeling that there’s a reason for it. That something dark stokes this provocation, and that its hurtling towards them faster than he can understand. Lioran doesn’t know if it has something to do with Nul’s machine or if it’s something wholly unrelated — he’s a seer, not a fortune teller. He can just make educated guesses because of them, which isn’t something he admits to Cele but the point comes across anyway.
Still, he does ask Cele to keep him around more. To see if, independently, they can get ahead of this vision and those consequences. If he could teach her anything to prevent it, and determine if he has anymore visions. She initially refuses, the only reason she hasn’t melted his holocron down to scrap is because his information may eventually come in handy (Cele needs someone to depend upon when things become stressful, even if she refuses to admit such a thing aloud), and that he might have more insight on Nul’s machine or its inner workings. She doesn’t want him to teach her anything, less he try to corrupt her.
He doesn’t, not really. Well, he’d be lying if he didn’t want to use Cele for his own gain — if his daughter was this strong, why wouldn’t he? Lioran didn’t have the opportunity to do so in life so he did now in death — but it wasn’t his main goal as of now. Lioran feels the galaxy is on the precipice of change that no one can prevent, and he does not like the mystery the next few months are shrouded in. He’s heard of Nul herself, but not much beyond that. He needs Cele’s help to retrieve more information, and Cele needs his help to prevent this future from arriving so violently. They’re at a stopgap, and with Cele’s only other option being Erzilith, she takes on the task of deciphering and avoiding this vision reluctantly with her father.
This is also her crisis of faith. She was able to avoid in during Fallen Empire because Zanya was there to sort-of-kinda reassure/knock some sense into her about it, but now Cele is older, wiser and less sure of herself. Yes, she’s a Jedi, and yes she has blood from the Empire. But she’s had much more time now to question her upbringing and her faction, has learned more about herself and has begun asking questions about the other parts of the Force. Nul’s machine worries her more than anything, and there are disturbances in the Force she can’t track down. That fear is painful and destructive, and it’s a matter of time before it makes her do something she’ll regret.
S11 E16: TRUMPETS BRING THE ANGELS, BUT THEY NEVER CAME [15:34]
As the galaxy's fate teeters in the balance between the powers that be, the Alliance is forced to split their attention towards multiple leads on tracking down Darth Nul's holocron and stopping the Hidden Chain's activities across numerous worlds. The search eventually leads them to Voss, where the interpreters are in desperate need of assistance. With the opportunity for sorely needed information on the table in exchange for their cooperation, recently reunited Cele and Zanya take on the task to gain an audience with the Three -- even while a dangerous secret lurks behind the shadows of another holocron that's fallen into play.
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One problem with the worldbuilding I've got for my version of the Sith academies is just... logistics. So, it's got the population of a city, education lasts three years, and trials come every half-year. That means, every half year, there's a sudden influx of a city's worth of people all doing *something* major as part of their education all around the same time, possibly in the same place.
Now, I can make it easier on myself if intake is on a quarterly basis. That splits the numbers in half, thereabouts. Those who start their training at the start of the 1Q and 3Q will have their trials at the end of the 2Q and the 4Q. Those who start their trials at the start of the 2Q and 4Q will have their trials at the end of the 1Q and the 3Q. That doesn't do much, though, because half a city's worth of people is still half a city's worth.
Now, I'm also playing with the idea that the academies have a sort of elimination round set up, based on the fact that every trial has at least *one* of your fellow acolytes die in game. This is part of a broader idea that, at least for acolytes from Imperial families, the academy is far less lethal. They're still at risk, of course they're at risk, but most acolytes from Imperial families are merely removed from their coterie should they fail a trial, to be shifted into a new coterie at a later date. Those from vassal states and those who were once slaves have far less protections and the latter are often killed for their failures — a sort of rebellion against the Emperor's decree. Those who survive... it depends. Lord Spindrall collects some of them, but the rest may go elsewhere.
It will also help that not every trial is so... messy as the ones requiring an acolyte to delve into some lost forgotten tomb. Imagine even a fraction of a city's worth of people all occupying Ajunta Pall's tomb, all searching for *something*. I can't imagine the IRS would be too happy about that. No. I think most trials are somewhat artificial, for lack of a better word.
The first and second trials for both classes would be examples. For the Inquisitor, the death battle between you and the failed acolytes is artificial. You can repeat that for as long as you have failed acolytes looking to earn their way back into the academy (former slaves denied re-enrollment like the rest of the acolytes until they prove themselves). For the second T&I trial... so long as there's prisoners who have information the Sith want, there'll trials about getting that information. The same applies to the Warrior's second trial, too.
For the Warrior's first trial, my guess is that the Sith warblades are, like... just put there by Sith who want their acolytes to find a Sith warblade within a tomb. It's not some ancient blade that's somehow remain untouched for thousands of years. It was put where it was put so an acolyte can fight their way through flesh eating slugs and other beasties to fish it off a rack. Kind of ruins the mystique, but that's the only way I could rationalise that trial.
Another way I could go about ensuring that the academies aren't so much a mess is probably just have the trials all taking place over a period of a few weeks. Instead of everyone flooding in at once, they're staggered over a period of two weeks (however long a week is for your Sith calendar). Mmm. Thoughts.
Yay logistics!! Stoked to see someone else post about this, as it's actually something I've put way too much thought into. Imo, it only makes sense for the Empire to have a very organized and efficient system going back hundreds of years, and I honestly see the Korriban academy as an outlier in its chaos - k'lor'slugs georg, if you will.
(disclaimer that the following worldbuilding is all pulled out of my ass - idk what the devs' intentions were, but i've connected the dots they put down and drawn a few of my own, and this is the picture that makes sense to me. feel free to take bits for your own headcanons or leave it, as you will :)
I've gone with the idea that the chance of notable Force-sensitivity is roughly one in a million across the Imperial population (much higher in Sith lineages, but lower in the vast majority of families). In a planet with a population of 10 billion, that would be roughly 10,000 Sith + acolytes (in peacetime, when they aren't all dying - functionally it's less, even during SWTOR's cold war era. infighting go brrrr.) To deal with those thousands of acolytes, there are several government-run Sith Academies on each Imperial planet, one per major city, each capable of handling at least several hundred magical angry children. (This is most likely the Sith Inquisitors' biggest job, imo - enforcing Academy rules, weeding out dissenters and making sure the youngest acolytes are effectively indoctrinated to prevent things from boiling over once they hit puberty. Picture your worst teacher but with Force lightning and an interrogation chamber. Yeah.)
That said, some acolytes will be privately educated, especially at younger ages. Of course, some of those acolytes end up becoming militant cultists or fanatics of the houses or individual Sith who took them in - but it's still permitted by the Dark Council, as it eases strain on the public Academy system. Not to mention the Councilors certainly benefit from having their own private cohorts... and trying to put a stop to the practice would just cause a civil war even faster.
Canonically, Scourge and Malgus were said to have trained at a Sith Academy on Dromund Kaas, and the Sith had to study somewhere before Korriban was reclaimed. So I've expanded that to a more reasonable size: in my headcanon, there are dozens of Academies across Ziost, Dromund Kaas, Dromund Fels, Ashas Ree, Begeren, etc., each having a few hundred to a couple thousand students at most. And then there's Korriban, both the oldest and the most recently (re)established of them all.
At the time SWTOR begins, the Sith Academy on Korriban is far from the only one, but it's the most dangerous and the most prestigious; anyone who survives its trials is almost guaranteed an apprenticeship, as the Dark Council and other high-ranking lords hang around to pick off the most promising candidates for themselves. I figured it would actually have fewer acolytes than most Academies - usually a few hundred at a time, more of a village than a city - but who are constantly coming and going, rarely studying there for longer than they must to complete the trials (which are themselves definitely at least a few weeks/months, longer than the game would imply). Korriban has a very small long-term population, due to the risk of madness and hostile terrain which forces its inhabitants to rely on supplies from other worlds, so its overseers would have to take applications or travel offworld to scout acolytes from the wider Academy system.
As a result, the acolytes who end up on Korriban fall into two categories - the nepo baby/tryhard Imperials (SW, Eskella, Vemrin, Ffon, etc.) and the slaves and aliens (SI, Kory, Xalek, etc.) who were either born on the planet or sent there to die, as the overseers' unsubtle backlash to the changed admittance rules and fodder for their preferred acolytes. The majority of acolytes in the other Academies are more middle-of-the road, and don't have to deal with quite as much competition; their trials are less deadly, and no acolyte-on-acolyte killing is sanctioned, but they're also less likely to get apprenticeships and someday become lords or Darths.
To illustrate a couple examples of how this all works practically:
my SW was a freeborn zabrak whose Force-sensitivity was discovered early on; he was educated by the Sith lords his parents served until he was old enough to be sent to a public academy, where he survived the usual anti-alien hazing and was successfully indoctrinated; he would have graduated as a middle-of-the-road Sith and gone on to work as an assassin for his lords, if Tremel hadn't scouted him as a potential candidate for Baras' apprenticeship.
my Cathar SI was born and raised as an Imperial slave, but her Force-sensitivity being discovered as a violently rebellious teenager meant that she was sent straight to Korriban in hopes that the system (via Harkun) would get rid of her, or at least spit her out as somewhat controllable cannon fodder.
Thus, the game's origin stories end up as obvious endpoints of the dichotomy this system creates. (I was very amused when I realized this. Ah, serendipity.)
I love your take on the trials' different stages, and the quarters - the calendar system and timing is a part of this that has always escaped me. So far, I've figured that there's an eight-year "lower" program meant for kids 6-14 and a six-year "upper" program for 14-20; final trials for the 20-year-olds last several weeks and happen year-round on Korriban, with acolytes steadily coming in from offworld to compete for the lords' attention and hopefully graduate with all their limbs intact...
...but that's as far as my brain managed to get. Korriban apparently has a 28-hour day and a 780-day year (more than two galactic standard years), for whatever that's worth. (on the subject of numbers, it also has a gravity of 1.4, which exhausts me just thinking about 💀)
Also, the idea that some overseers or their flunkeys are sneaking into the tombs to reset traps and plant warblades is perfect - it's the kind of worldbuilding/lampshading that's both very funny and fitting, imo. 💖
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