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"They're never besting the allegation" allegation of what dumb ass?!?! Showing us what woman still participate in sex work when in need and Louis being a former pimp would want to "save" her from that life. And when she said no he reverted back to season 1 when he "paid" a sex worker just to talk, you know the one Lestat killed cause she was Louis's only true friend because he was very lonely and that's what he's trying to recreate, because he's lonely now.

Yeah your who I thought you were. Go watch Vampire Diaries seems more your intellect and maturity level.

"They're never besting the allegation" allegation of what dumb ass?!?! Showing us what woman still participate in sex work when in need and Louis being a former pimp would want to "save" her from that life. And when she said no he reverted back to season 1 when he "paid" a sex worker just to talk, you know the one Lestat killed cause she was Louis's only true friend because he was very lonely and that's what he's trying to recreate, because he's lonely now.

I'm so scared that we've been desensitized to human atrocities.

I don't understand how the AG and FBI heads saw pictures and videos of children being raped and lied to the public to protect the rapists and we're acting like this is just everyday 'left vs right' shit.

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This is my favorit relationship on this show and Siuan/Sohpie is my favorite character/actor on this show.

but this show has more queer characters-- on this budget-- with this material, on this production scale, on tv. This is arguably the best depicted relationship on said show. Assigning malic to the gay showrunner is that single issue voters energy that can get fucked.

Because people who don't like this aspect of the show are just going to adapt it and use the same "bury your gay" verbiage and talking points to try and pressure the show to lean away from these aspects. And, after those people use you to get what they want. Do you think they're going to reblog you asking for more representation or will they tell you to leave your woke/dei/diversity out because it ruins the show and you even said so yourself.

And the showrunner is only human with hundreds of jobs to think about. In 2025 how long do you expect him to keep reaching out and keep dealing with a section of a fandom if your adding your voice to section that is constantly invalidating the representation he is trying to provide?

Also it's fucking Con she's not dead:

1. Why did they take her away after the Stilling and didn't even show us the torture?

2. The second most important storyline of the whole season (hunting the remaining Ajah) is never resolved.

3. Nyeneave implicated Verin with the good hair and they made sure to show her out of the tower when they killed her.

you're right, it is the most well-defined relationship in the show. the problem here is, siuan isn't exactly defined outside of this relationship in the show, not in a manner where her arc is anything other than that of failure, which is wayyy different from her arc in the books. it's not even that they adapted it wrong, they killed her off before her arc even started. it's the way her death is framed.

if you don't want me to use the bury your gays verbiage then i can use another one: fridging. defined as " a trend in fiction which involves female characters facing disproportionate harm, such as death, maiming, or assault, to serve as plot devices to motivate male characters, an event colloquially known as "fridging"." moiraine is not male, fine, but siuan's death IS the motivation for her in her battle against lanfear. it doesn't serve much of a purpose apart from that, at least not in the show. just stilling her would have had the same effect.

"single issue voter energy" is just badly worded. this is a tv show. i think people are allowed to call evident racism and colorism out, especially when it has been a pattern. this is just the first Major example of that, but how many people of color have been killed in the show prior to that even? and some without any reason except shock value. i see that the cast is big, and stakes need to be raised, but almost every time is too much of a coincidence to ignore.

"showrunner is only human" exactly! and humans make mistakes and have biases even if they belong to a marginalised group themselves. you can still be racist if you are gay

and lastly the points you raised:

did you actually want to see her tortured further? is that your point here?

yeah, and the showrunner has confirmed that a different character will be taking that storyline anyway, so what was the point

and verin can do... what exactly? i don't think the one power can bring people back to life, especially not people whose heads have have been cut (in an extremely and unnecessarily brutal fashion i might add)

So all stick to the dramatargy construction of the episode: which I don't know if your being abtuse but the whole episode and season has been about them-- equally, in their relationship and importance to the main storyline that actuallyhas to take narrative presitence.

Let's start with the first scene. if we didn't already see the prophecy scene last season we would probably have started with that one why? Because it's setting up what the episode and season storyline has been about since Siuan was first Introduced:

Siuan-- beging as a fishers daughter, falling in love with Moraine, wanting ONLY.ONLY. ONLY. To be with her and take to be "a fisher's wife" only for a prophecy to make BOTH OF THEM to choose DUTY over love.

The first SCENE of the season calls back to this with Moraine looking up at her in the tower, BOTH separate by their DUTY. The tragic separation is compounded when we see Moraine save Siuan from the rocks but doesn't speak to her, and AGAIN when she listens to Siuan talk behind the book shelf.

In that same episode we also see Siuan do her best to guide the main characters Egwen, Matt and Nyneave as best she can in her DUTY as A mentor while Moraine did the same with Rand.

BOTH of them trying(and failing) to fulfill the DUTY and ROLES the wheel has weaved for the them. This was made more clear and textual in episode 5 when the reunited in the dream hut REPRESENTING THE LIFE THEY BOTH WANTED. To Fulfill the Prophecy, they even talked about how they were not suited, and it would have been worse were the roles reversed. THE ACTUAL DIALOGUE OUT OF THEIR mouths said as much-- they wish they could have just left and gone home but the will (WHEEL) of destiny is keeping them apart.

THIS EPISODE starts with a point in that journey. When she is made the Amerilyn Seat, that is a focul point I their story and also call back to THE FIRST EPISODE SHE WAS IN.

Siuan monolgue talks FIRST about the truth and the light, the thing that has been her DUTY since we FIRST met her and then the second, her love for Moraine which is the other thing we learn about her in that episode is season one before destiny and it's will (WHEEL) forced them to be separated as they full their DUTIES.

When Moraine goes to the desert she EXPECTS to die, FOR RAND, for her DUTY. Just like SIUAN... who is faking her death.

"Siuan-- beging as a fishers daughter, falling in love with Moraine, wanting ONLY.ONLY. ONLY. To be with her and take to be "a fisher's wife" " exactly! like i said before - "siuan isn't exactly defined outside of this relationship in the show, not in a manner where her arc is anything other than that of failure"

"When she is made the Amerilyn Seat" by the black ajah instead of her own merits btw, which diminishes her own drive and intelligence, both an important part of her character in the books. they had the material. they had so much material

"Just like SIUAN... who is faking her death." after we saw her headless body on the floor of the tower. i don't think the one power can bring you back to life from that.

"single issue voter energy" i think we are allowed to be angry about the way a character died. not THAT a character died mind you, i understand characters die to further the plot, and the consequences of siuan's death could be interesting to see. the way she went though, leaves a lot to be desired.

I'm also sure he is aware of the implications of what he is doing, hence why that (beautiful)black actress was with Elaida and all season and had her be the one to "kill" her.

Good, Thank you for adding that picture. In that Q&A is where I got the final confirmation that she's alive, one of those questions was asking whether she and Moriaine were end game,he answered something like: "the way we set it up I sure hope so"

Of course I can't be sure but u can look at the screenwriting for clues and the question that lead there like...

1. Why was Verin taken out of the Tower she and Leana wouldn't have been enough change the out come? The actresses' reactions to the dead would add to the scene, Leana was already there for the first part.

2. In episode 5 why did they have those shots of Verin's sister being more aware than she was letting on? What was the follow up to Nyneave saying that they never mention how the Grey man died?

3. In that same episode when she said shebwas wrong about Elaida being black Ajah, who are the other TWO people that knew about the plan?