conservative homophobia adapted by the liberal feminists/TRA: examples
1. “homosexuals are genitalia obsessed/sex obsessed”
- old homophobic statement, obvious; gay people are perverse and shallow, sinners only obsessed with carnal aspects
2. “penis/vagina fetishism”
- as above. religious homophobes tend to see gay people as someone who has a fetish towards same sex bodies
3. “sex isn’t needed in a relationship”
- aka “but you can have a deep connection without that perverse stuff! why won’t you just be friends?”
4. “it’s shallow to reject someone only because they have a penis!”
- an accusation straight people never face; again, boiling down gay attraction and love to something purely physical and lacking depth
5. “what if you meet [opposite sex person] and fall in love?”
- “what if you meet the right man?”, nowadays changed to “what if you meet a trans girl and fall in love?”. making a point that the person just hasn’t met the “right” someone of the opposite sex yet
6. “lesbians use strap-ons and dildos, so why don’t they like dick?”
- I heard it in conservative Poland at the age of 10 or so, from teenage boys who thought it meant lesbians actually like dick, or else they wouldn’t want to be penetrated with fake dick. they just hate men. or something. nowadays they hate trans women
- again, an old notion that says it’s a choice, matter of personal tastes. “genital preference” currently
8. “homosexuals are reducing people to their genitalia”
- again, the implication that sex based attraction means objectification and reduction, that gay people see their potential partners as walking penises or vulvae and that there’s no depth or personal connection to it
9. “but sex doesn’t have to involve genitalia”
- being in an opposite sex relationship is “better” so you should go through the hassle of finding usually unsatisfying “alternative” methods instead of being with a partner you’d actually like. also a notion used in conversion therapy.
10. “homosexuality results from trauma”
- aka “it’s ok if you had trauma with penis!”. it’s the notion that exclusive same-sex attraction is just ptsd from being assaulted by an opposite sex person
11. “but lesbians like trans men/butches/intersex women”
- again, the implication that since lesbians like “women who look like men”, it means they actually like men and seek out the closest substitute (also the notion that androgynous women are just imperfect copies of manhood) but won’t go for real men because of personal hangups
there’s also more examples which I don’t remember in the moment or I don’t want to make this post horribly long. there’s a lot of conversion therapy rhetoric about learning to touch penis/vulva slowly and starting from touching the opposite sex through clothes etc. it’s incredibly disgusting that nobody is allowed to point it out and call out the appropriation of literal conservative sentiments without being accused of bigotry. it’s annoying to me how years and years after I see the same rhetoric I saw and hated as a child hailed as something “progressive” in Western “leftist” spaces. it’s all disgusting