Blorbo Torment Nexus

Oh, absolutely

Putting my Son of Stan!Stan and Simon in front of Gift Ford and seeing how he reacts. Like a little white mouse and I’m placing forms of enrichment in front of him to see which ones he likes.

He’s flabbergasted by Stan with a son. Specifically Simon. Takes one look at the kid and is like “DID YOU HAVE A BABY WITH BILL???”

Simon is very fascinating to him though. Gift Ford is not put off by Simon’s behaviour or weirdness. There’s nothing wrong with that boy except why does he have Bill’s eye? Also Stanley how irresponsible of you to have a child when you already have a hard time looking after yourself. Where’s your big brother? He should be helping you. Look at how ragged and run down you are! Come here, Gift Ford will make things better :)

The idea of Stan having a kid is just wild to him. He’s never really considered it. This isn’t his Stan though, so it’s okay. But look at this poor Stanley—is he missing limbs?!

I really like it. Hmm yummy angst.

The pose in question:

Propaganda to VOTE STANFORD PINES FOR TUMBLR SEXYMAN 2026!!

(Stan^4 by @thoughtless-in-space)

So many Stan’s and Ford’s. Gift Stan just wants to leave them to their mess until he sees the Ford’s hurt. Then he’s 🥺🥺 This is what happens to versions of his brother when Ford isn’t evil and doesn’t choose to join Bill? Hatred for Bill magnified.

Also maybe a little “why can’t my Ford be less evil and more like these Ford’s? These Ford’s seem nice.” Although a little awkward if teen or paranoid Ford show any sort of resentment to him, because Gift Stan is only used to his Ford showing him smothering amounts of love. He doesn’t really know what to do with a Ford who maybe doesn’t like him.

Gift Ford is butting into everyone’s business. If he learns Bill threatened the Stan’s he’s not happy. He likes Grunkle Ford. Look at this feral guy, doing his best to protect Stanley :) what a good Ford—hey! No biting >:(

Each Stan gets their turn being cooed over because they’ve been through “something so so scary” and big brother has to comfort them so they feel better :)

He doesn’t understand why the Ford’s won’t just open the portal and let Bill in though. Take advantage of the situation, guys! Bill can give you power and everything you want. Oh, did he try to kill Stan? This Bill can rot then :)

The youngest Stan’s get fretted over the most. Gift Ford is picking them up and cuddling kid and teen Stan and telling them how wonderful they are and how nothing is their fault, they don’t know any better, and it’s all okay because big brother will help now. He tells Mullet and Grunkle Stan this as well, and is very happy to see how close the Grunkle twins are.

HFHSHHDJFGHSGDJG it’s an insane experience that someone sent an ask about my guys here. THEY’VE BREACHED CONTAINMENT!!! But oh boy this is so fun and interesting so I’m gonna drop my takes on the responses to the Gifties.

Grunkle Ford. HATES Gift Ford from the moment he learned he sided with Bill. He starts off very formal and Ford-ly but he slowly becomes more detached and quiet the more Gift Ford reveals… the way he is. Until he’s full on snarling in warning any time Gift Ford gets too close to one of the Stans. Sure, gift Ford has powers, but this Ford is one who went toe to toe with Bill at full power in the nightmare realm and won and was just about to kill him. If Gift Ford steps out of line at all he will happily inform him of this fact (out of earshot of anyone whose memories Bill could infiltrate. He might also tell him that they successfully killed Bill in his timeline and if he wants to avoid the same fate he will Behave.) Literally if he crosses any boundary he will have to contend with the risk of having his throat ripped out by teeth.

Grunk Stan is pretty yikes about everything and gives Gift Stan bad (good?) life advice. Talks about how sick it is that he’s equals with his Ford and if he learns anything about his situation he’s gonna give him the extra 30 years of advice on ‘conning’ him that he’s familiar with.

Every Ford (and tbh most Stans) are immediately like. This guy is in a situation (pointing at Gift Stan) and there’s a universal urge to adopt / protect him from Gift Ford. Grunk Ford is mentally cataloguing ways to work around the soul tether thing. It’s a whole thing.

I think teen and Paranoia Ford’s would be kind of confused by Gift Stan and the way he’s a bit of a softer touch than their own. It’ll be uncomfortable interacting but not like… outright dislike. If they catch a single whiff of his situation as I say that awkwardness goes out of the way of we need to Help This Guy.

Obviously probably not able to happen but hey a Ford can dream.

I think kid Stan gets that affection and is initially like oh yeah cool but once he catches on to the absolute Rancid Vibes™️ and tension of everyone else (Stan’s pretty emotionally in tune) it’s sort of like. Hm. Who is this guy touching me actually. I think teen Stan who’s also desperate for validation is willing to put up with a bit more (probably the most out of everyone) with Gift Ford and overlook more red flags. Mullet Stan is in a weird space because he is like yeah brotherly love is great but (uncomfortably peers at his alternate self) … that’s not. Fab.

Grunk Stan is however absolutely not gonna take being called the younger brother and will slap him with a ‘kid I’m old enough to be yer dad’. If he keeps doing it he’ll sic Grunk Ford on him. Absolutely no to any touching or affection. He’s more sympathetic to Gift Ford than Grunk Ford is but that is. Not a high bar HDHSJFF

“You would be subjecting him to a slow, agonizing, cruel death. Do you want that?” Gift Ford’s expression darkens. “Do you want that?”

If Grunkle Ford gives any indication of being okay with Gift Stan’s death then Gift Ford’s rage explodes. As it is, if Grunkle Ford attempts any intimidation by getting close in Gift Ford’s space, Gift Ford just telekinetically picks him up and sets him down a few feet away each time. But as long as Grunkle Ford doesn’t do anything that would threaten Gift Stan, Gift Ford is not hostile to him. He likes this Ford, even if he is unreasonable sometimes.

The Gift twin’s soul situation is something that could only be changed by the axolotl itself. (Though GoG Stan might be able to alter it to an extent.)

But Gift Ford is pleased to see how the other Ford’s seem to like and want to help his Stan. Of course they like his Stan. His Stan is the best of all Stan’s! :)

I love the kids picking up on the vibes lmao. Gift Ford really does have Rancid Vibes. He exudes some level of “predator” and causes most humans to get the uncanny valley feeling around him. It’s usually fairly lowkey because Gift Ford reigns himself in, but he can push that aura out and make it stronger at will (or when he loses control and gets mad).

Grunkle Stan is still getting called little brother regardless and Mr “lack of boundaries and won’t take no for answer” wants a hug. He needs to hug every Stan in the room :( and show them he loves them.

Gift Stan is torn between pleading with Grunkle Stan to just let Gift Ford hug him once, and pleading with Gift Ford to back off because Grunkle Ford is looming nearby. There’s also a chance that, if Gift Stan senses tension from Grunkle Ford, it triggers his fawn response to try and stop Grunkle Ford from getting mad. Running up to him and throwing his arms around him with big sad eyes and saying, “oh, please don’t be upset, big brother? 🥺”

The other problem here is if Grunkle Ford and Gift Ford did get into some sort of physical altercation, it might set off Gift Stan 😔 Because Gift Stan. Can be just as possessive and obsessive of his twin as Gift Ford is of him, he just won’t admit it. The difference between them is that Gift Ford is a control freak with a personality disorder and no morals, and Gift Stan isn’t. So Gift Stan doesn’t display those traits the way Gift Ford does. The latent genes lurk within him though. They just have to be provoked by specific situations.

Gift Stan will help his brother if Gift Ford gets attacked. Even if he has no particular skills or powers and might not actually be helpful, their shared soul influences the Gift twins to protect each other from threat. Gift Stan might be in A Situation with his Ford and wish things were different, but an attack on Gift Ford could potentially trigger a deep rage within Gift Stan that he isn’t actually aware he has. The split soul’s defence mechanism to keep itself alive.

I'm curious what you think Gift Ford would make of Negotiator Stan and what Gift Stan would make of Negotiator Ford? Or just that general situation lmao.

I can't help but think Negotiator Stan would be in two minds a bit; thrilled that this is a Ford that threw everything in the air and said 'fuck you' to the world that's never done anything for him and taken that power for himself. I don't think Negotiator Stan would be particularly offput by the way that Gift Ford is either lmao; he's a bit of an obsessive weirdo himself. But then again, I think Stan - who is angling for an eventuality where he and his Ford are equals would be a little offput by the purposeful denial of power for Gift Stan. His Ford clearly can't take care of himself and he's had to step in - he's the protector. That's his job, why are you taking his job? You deny your Stanley his purpose.

Meanwhile, Negotiator Ford is staring back at Gift Stan like. Blink twice if you need help? Maybe we can escape if we work together? He's very anxious and untrusting but if this guy is in the same situation as him... maybe they can sort something out. He wouldn't hesitate to tell Stan the sorts of things Bill was capable of or show him what he did to him as a way of like warning him to not underestimate him.

Yet the situations are kinda different in a drastic sense because... well, because Negotiator Stan is always planning for Ford to join him as an equal, his arrangements aren't very great. He lets Bill treat Ford in a demeaning way because it's basically just a 'hazing ritual' for him to be treated a bit like how he is in canon (minus the torture); plus if he really wants it to stop, he can just join them. If humans are an inferior lifeform, and he insists on being human, that's basically him choosing team powerless. Not that he minds too much, but he is eager for them to be working together at some point. Meanwhile, Gift Stan is relatively given everything he could want and treated fairly kindly, but without any hope for that sort of 'freedom' he could possibly want. They're both sort of condescended to in very similar but very different ways, but indeed the 'aw you can't make your own decisions' brothers prosper lol.

the 'aw you can't make your own decisions' brothers prosper 🤝🤝

(For those unaware, this is Negotiator Stan)

These guys would be such an interesting combo. Gift Ford is always a little put off by dimensions where Bill chose Stan instead of him, but one look at Negotiator Ford and he’s like “ah, I see.”

Gift Ford would be happy for a chance to talk with a Stan who isn’t sensitive. One he doesn’t have to hold back around and can be evil brothers with :) He completely understands Negotiator Stan’s decision in trapping Negotiator Ford away for his own good, and that sometimes brothers don’t make the best decisions and need decisions to be made for them :)

He’s affectionate with Negotiator Stan, but also still condescending, because as much as Negotiator Stan is a henchmaniac too, Gift Ford will always think he knows better because he’s the older brother. In this case, he’s for Negotiator Stan trying to get Negotiator Ford on his side and join Bill and be equals—because any poor Stan needs their big brother! Negotiator Ford isn’t doing a great job right now of taking care of his little brother. Of course Negotiator Stan needs him as an equal.

Equality is not needed in Gift Ford’s case, of course, because he’s the big brother. So him being the one with power and control only makes sense, and Gift Stan doesn’t need to worry about all those things, just trust his brother to care for him :) If he has no power and is completely dependent on Gift Ford for everything, then he’ll never try to leave because he’ll feel too helpless without his Ford :)

They might have an argument about the protector thing though. Gift Ford firmly believes that a Stan’s purpose is to exist as a Ford’s twin. Why does he have to do anything? He’s the younger brother, he’s the one who should be protected and taken care of! What does Negotiator Stan mean protecting is his job? He just made that up! He can’t just make things up and claim that as every Stan’s purpose!

(Gift Ford ignores the fact that he too made up what he thinks Stan’s purpose is. Of course anything he decides is correct because he is always right.)

Despite that, they’d probably get along well, being an obsessive weirdo 🤝 obsessive weirdo duo

Gift Stan meanwhile would feel quite sympathetic to Negotiator Ford. He knows what it’s like to be locked away and have your autonomy and choices taken from you. It would be a little weird to him, to see it in reverse, and he would be both appalled that another version of himself did this to his Ford, and also a little jealous. Because hey, why does that Stan get cool powers and I don’t? :(

Gift Stan and Negotiator Ford would probably do a lot of mutual complaining about their over-possessive brothers with each other, and Gift Stan… actually might be convinced to help Negotiator Ford escape his situation. But even if they did make it out, Negotiator Ford would find that Gift Stan would just watch him go and not follow. Because in the end, Gift Stan can’t bear to leave Gift Ford.

Though Gift Stan would also try and sell Negotiator Ford on pretending to join the dark side, then once he has powers and can do what he wants, turning on Bill and leaving. Just scam himself into position to be able to be strong enough to oppose Bill and Negotiator Stan.

The judgemental “ah I see.” Is so fkn funny 😭😭 the contrast between ‘yeah that variant of me is a light breeze away from collapsed and my little brother is justified to lock him away’ and ‘but also Stan needs this guy bc he’s the big brother and a Stan needs their Ford to occupy that role’ mentalities is great.

There’s an extent to which Negotiator Stan is like ??? You don’t want your Stan to enjoy powers ??? Do you not love Stanley ??? (/Miette tone) :(( you know we Stans have so much upset feeling powerless it’s how people hurt us before. You hurt brother?? You don’t trust brother loves you enough to not run off ?? (/his ass is playing salesman on this)

Negotiator Stan admittedly isn’t overly fond of the idea of any of himselves being powerless in earnest, and he’s also pretty firm in his belief because Sixers so often just can’t take care of themselves properly! They need their Stans to take care of them and protect them (even from themselves) silly. It’s common sense. Perfect balance. Bill nicknames Stans ‘Bruiser’ for a reason - Stans love to fight! It’s their whole job. You think Bill is wrong about their purpose??

But at the end of the day JDJSHDJF yes they’re crazy levels of 🤝 crazy dude obsessed with his codependent brother mentality. I can’t help but think Negotiator Stan would be a bit jealous of the soul bond and the fact that Gift Ford genuinely relies on him to stay alive fjshdhdjg

Yeah I think Negotiator Ford would be absolutely freaking horrified by Gift Ford just in general. He’d probably massively overcompensate to Gift Stan in apologising on his behalf and trying to be like this isn’t fair!! (He’s a lot more in ‘fight’ mentality atp in his fic fhshdjd). I think he would be devastated at the idea of leaving Stan behind like that though. This is the brother that feels like his actual brother and he’s being kept trapped by a himself that doesn’t feel like it could be himself. It is very sweet that Gift Stan would try to help him though 😭😭<33 I think he’d want to help him as much as possible in turn. Combined with Stan’s idea there’s a chance he’d even be willing to pretend just to have the power necessary to try and help Gift Stan’s circumstances if he could. But he also knows he’s a bad actor and his Stan could read him like the back of his hand; if he tries to bluff Negotiator Stan he will be found out. He has to say it and mean it; I think that’s the most difficult point of difference between Ford having the power and Stan having the power lmao. Negotiator Ford can’t bluff his Stan the way Gift Stan can ‘but big brother :(‘ his Ford.

Gift Ford will absolutely say that Bill can wrong. That’s his BFF but sometimes Bill is shortsighted and dumb. (Gift Ford has said this to his Bill’s face before and then they had a fight about it.)

Negotiator Stan has the upper hand with the angle that the Gift twins need each other though. Because as much as Gift Ford is a control freak and hogs the power, he does need his Stan. He can’t do any of what he does without his Stan, because of the soul bond. So Stan has leverage there because without him Ford would unravel.

Gift Stan would appreciate Negotiator Ford’s indignation on his behalf :) because no, it’s not fair, but there’s nothing he can do about it now. Gift Stan wants Negotiator Ford to be free because he understands the desire, and he knows he himself will never really have that chance, because even if he can escape, his soul half will always desire to return to his Ford.

He may try and give Negotiator Ford some pointers on creating a good bluff, but if Negotiator Ford can’t convince him, there’s no way he’ll convince his own Stan.

Negotiator Stan tries to make Gift Stan worse but Gift Stan is very :/ about a version of himself that willingly joined Bill. He agrees Fords make bad decisions though. Look at his brother! He went and turned evil! Gift Stan would be kind of downhearted at the mention of protecting Ford though. His idea of being a protector of any sort got kinda crushed when Bill told him Ford was never really bothered by bullying and just pretended to be :(

Negotiator Stan is really in consensus with his Bill about Ford so I can only imagine he’d be really intrigued about their dynamic. Also Negotiator Bill is still in his mega divorced era so he would probably be very curious about the besties thing (wondering along the lines of huh is it like the sweetness which makes Bill into his Ford romantically??? Would that make Gift Bill into Gift Stan??? - before seeing how Gift Bill interacts with that Stan and going lol nvm). But either way he and his Bill bonded over shared Ford appreciation and their conman skills so he is sort of a bit curious as to what exactly makes the two of them so close (and probably pries where he shouldn’t). Negotiator Stan is pretty nosy and invasive like that lol and he primarily analyses people through their relationships to others.

I think he would also be curious about the terms of Gift Ford’s deal with Bill because his own is..,…, a legal jargon Nightmare mess (on purpose). He really leveraged all his skills and channeled that one alternative timeline where he was a lawyer or something into that, in a way that made Bill very stuck with him and such. I think he’d be curious to know if Gift Ford employed the same strategy or to what extent their friendship is very genuine.

It’s also fun and interesting that Gift Ford very much cares about the rest of their family whilst Negotiator Stan only really cares about his twin lol. He cares about his Ma second most then Shermie, but in his opinion they’re all just traitors who got between him and Ford. His opinion on Pa is so bad that he might legitimately kill him for what he told Ford. Negotiator Stan is a pretty laid back variant but the moment anyone affects Ford or Ford and his’ relationship he’s 0-100 extremely fast. Either way his main interest with his family currently is what they might mean to Ford, because to him they all let him be shut out (but of course it’s not Ford’s fault because he was being manipulated :(( ) but the rest of them ?? He’s resentful yeah.

In spite of his general better understanding of humanity Negotiator Stan does not use it very often in regards to Ford lmao.

Awh. I think Negotiator Ford would find it difficult to leave Gift Stan like that and be super sympathetic whilst also appreciating the help a lot. He has a very strong drive to escape for… a number of reasons lmao. Some beyond the obvious. He’s a bit more emotional / explosive about that desire more often so bluffing would be very difficult for him because he just can’t help himself 😭😭 just like in canon.

Being nosey and invasive

Gift Ford is perfectly happy to boast about his bestie and how Bill is the first person to ever truly understand him. Gift Ford’s personality disorder has never been diagnosed, but he’s aware that he’s not like other people and doesn’t fit the standards of normal for more than just his extra fingers. He’s never been able to understand people and they’ve never really understood him either, but Bill both got him and was perfectly fine with the way he is. And Gift Ford found himself understanding Bill in a way he’s never been able to understand other humans.

Gift Ford would be surprised that Negotiator Stan’s deal is so long and complex and transactional. His own deal was simple and isn’t really in effect any longer. Gift Ford and Bill don’t operate based on a deal but based on friendship :) Bill has been in Gift Ford’s mind and is aware that Gift Ford genuinely likes him and isn’t secretly planning to turn on him or anything. So they’re just vibing together in world domination.

But Gift Ford, if he learned the details of Negotiator Stan’s deal, would praise Negotiator Stan for “being so clever in leveraging a deal because you love your big brother.”

He is a little confused that Negotiator Stan doesn’t like the rest of his family much because “why wouldn’t you like them? They’re yours.” Views family as possessions he owns before being their own people. He doesn’t have a Stan’s hangups or history with being the extra Stan or kicked out and the like.

Gift Stan might actually butt heads with Negotiator Stan over the Ford-Bill situation though. He’d be upset if he learned that Bill is into Ford despite Ford rejecting him multiple times. Accusing Negotiator Stan of allowing his Ford to be preyed on by Bill when Negotiator Ford is clearly terrified of the guy.

Negotiator Stan to Gift Stan: you should be more protective of Ford

Gift Stan: okay *becomes protective of Negotiator Ford*

Like how dare you be chill with this guy that your brother wants nothing to do with and force your brother to hang around him, especially when he’s been tortured by the guy before.

Negotiator Stan: you can talk to me about your concerns

I think he’d also find Gift Ford’s deal fascinating but very weird. Like you have no assurances this guy won’t stab you in the back? Okayyyyy. Whoohhh bold move. Negotiator Stan has effectively handcuffed Bill to him in a sense. He purposefully made his contract a minefield of loopholes and exploits so that he’s basically constantly holding a guillotine above his head in case he breaks it. (Of course, if Bill slips up and breaks their contract then Stan gets a VERY generous compensation. That’s written in too). The thing is, is that Negotiator Stan IS friendly with his Bill and would regard them as friends - he’s just also certain that ‘true’ friends don’t exist (except for his twin because like. Yknow).

Yeah I think Negotiator Stan doesn’t entirely get the Gift Ford’s possessiveness on the rest of the family because it’s like ?? Surely a twin is all you need, no? But he’s also like mmmm okay well Gift Stan’s family is nicer than his one so maybe it makes sense. The Pa even comes pre-disposed and everything!

I think Negotiator Stan would respond with some offence and draw up the many clauses he wove into his contract which prevent Bill from harming Ford in many different ways, alongside the fact that he can control when and if Bill visits for the mostpart. A lot of the stuff that is allowed is only the stuff Stan views as ‘harmless’ although Stan’s view on what is harmless is a bit skewed just due to his own experience on the streets.

But also. Yeah someone save that man 😭😭 Negotiator Ford is trapped with 2 maniacs and one of them is obsessed with getting him to subscribe to a hyper-specific mentality and won’t let him out until he genuinely means it, and the other is his clingy god-ex who has decided that gently cradling a man who is kicking and screaming is the height of romance.

Negotiator Stan /is/ mad at Bill for having hurt Ford before, but he is also willing for Ford to be harmed to an extent for the greater good. For instance, he put him through all this very stressful stuff because he didn’t want him to hurt himself [vaguely psychological torture], and he’s willing to do whatever is necessary for Ford to be safe and eventually join them [he doesn’t want him to mentally break but if he does then oh well that can be worked on over time]. Negotiator Stan would rather have a brother who is mentally broken and alive and with him than a stable brother who is dead or leaves him. I think his threshold for what he’s willing to let happen to Ford is higher; as long as it’s not permanent, he reasons that they have eternity to fix it.

Gift Stan would insist it doesn’t matter how many different clauses Negotiator Stan has when he’s still exposing his brother to his abuser. Gift Ford chimes in that Bill isn’t an abuser, Negotiator Ford is just being difficult. Gift Stan is very affronted about this. He can’t believe there’s a version of him that’s just as twisted and skewed as his Ford is. Being ganged up on by the evil twins :(

Negotiator Stan’s willingness to let his brother be hurt “for the greater good” reminds Gift Stan too much of Gift Ford and the medical procedures he’s forced on Stan for “his own good”. Though it makes worried more for Negotiator Ford, because his Stan seems more callous about his health as long as he’s alive, whereas Gift Stan’s Ford won’t allow other harm to come to him and at least tries to keep him happy and safe.

See, controversially and almost getting the point entirely, Negotiator Stanley “victim blamed extraordinaire” Pines would simply respond that by that logic, Gift Ford is his abuser - and yet he still very much wants to be around him - seeks him out, even - Despite insisting to the contrary. So clearly, yeah Gift Ford is right, this is just classic difficultness towards someone who cares about you coming from Gift Stan and Negotiator Ford and since they only wants what’s best for them in the end it’s more a case that they just don’t get their own feelings on the matter. Not to worry because we know what’s best for you guys :)

I would say those procedures are very comparable 😭 not to mention both evil twins physically restraining their other in order to prevent them going away or just to keep them still for one reason or other. Negotiator Stan hasn’t gone quite that far as to track him, but that’s partly because he doesn’t feel he really needs to: Ford is living in one room with no windows and no doors, so anytime he goes up he can immediately see him. Plus, that sort of procedure would probably not be conducive to a good future partnership. (The idea is tempting though…) Negotiator Stan is more callous about Ford’s mind than his physical health - admittedly, Negotiator Ford’s health is pretty well covered by Bill’s bolstering up his system and durability. His mind on the other hand? Well, it he breaks down it just means he’s closer to changing his outlook on joining them. Yeah it sucks so see his brother so upset, but Negotiator Stan doesn’t necessarily need Ford happy right now the way Gift Ford needs Stan to be happy in his lifestyle, because they have radically different end goals. Negotiator Ford’s current situation is supposed to be temporary, so if he hates it then? That’s pretty fine, actually: it’s just motivation for him to want to leave it.

See, actually because Gift Stan has a ‘better’ relationship to his Ford, Negotiator Stan would be open to listening. He sees the parallels in their situations and even though Stan and Ford are very different in how they operate, anything’s worth a shot. If taking a few quality of life suggestions from a peer group will make his brother happier with him, then why not? It’ll make him easier to convince in the long run. Admittedly, he will try and talk circles around any mentions of freedom or autonomy a bit - but he’s happy to relax those restrictions perhaps with a bit of encouragement. Just not too far.

LMAO though Negotiator Stan sends Gift Stan into a stunned mental spiral by suggesting that. Despite everything Gift Ford has done to him, Gift Stan has never seen him as an abuser, just his (evil) brother. So now he’s in a horrified “is Ford really abusive to me? Is my brother an abuser?” tailspin.

Gift Ford (gently) smacks Negotiator Stan upside the head for giving his twin a mini meltdown. “Look what you’ve gone and down now,” he tells Negotiator Stan. “Always making silly mistakes that big brother has to clean up for you.”

He then proceeds to coddle and soothe Gift Stan for the next little while, telling him he loves him so so much. And he’s never raised a hand to Stan, has he? He makes sure Stan is healthy and happy and gives him everything, doesn’t he? Takes care of him even when he doesn’t know what’s best for himself? Does that sound like abuse, Stanley? No? Then stop worrying about it.

Gift Ford is chill with Negotiator Stan’s lack of concern for Negotiator Ford’s mental health. He’s just trying to convince his brother to join him, a completely reasonable thing to want. The ends justify the means. If he has the chance, Gift Ford would “advise” Negotiator Ford to throw away all his pesky morals and just join his brother already. What does resisting get him at this point? Is it going to change things? Bill has already entered this dimension. Paltry defiance for defiance’s sake simply doesn’t serve anything now. Why not join the winner’s table?

Gift Stan gets hopeful with Negotiator Stan actually listening to what he has to say, even if it doesn’t change Negotiator Ford’s situation ultimately.

Gift Ford doesn’t care about Negotiator Fiddleford 😔 he’s like “oh, yours is still alive?” He doesn’t see a problem with what Negotiator Stan did to him, but he does suggest to Negotiator Stan “maybe friends are a problem for your brother. Complete social isolation can make a person much more open to suggestion. If you isolate your Ford for a length of time in a safe space, he’ll be so happy to see you when it’s over and desperate to not be alone that he might listen more to what you want from him :)”