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ROUND 1 — Match 71 of 138

Franziska von Karma (Ace Attorney)

Problematic because: "she's a prosecutor who only cares about winning cases, and one who has used underhanded tactics in that pursuit. this likely means that she has contributed to people being convicted of crimes they didn't commit. she is also physically abusive, striking people with a whip when they annoy her (which happens frequently due to her short temper). this habit persists in the courtroom, which is honestly more damning for the judge who allows that behavior, but she does still take advantage of that negligence." Propaganda: "Complex upbringing and character arc, hot"

vs. Jessica Riley (Until Dawn)

Problematic because: "She's the one who actually comes up with the prank on Hannah, which is a pretty major thing to have on your record in Until Dawn. Hannah has a crush on Mike, Jess decides she needs to be “taught a lesson” for going after Emily’s boyfriend, and the group sets her up to undress in front of a hidden audience while Matt records it. Hannah runs out humiliated, Beth follows her, and both sisters disappear that night. Jess obviously didn’t plan for anyone to die, but the prank is still cruel as hell, and the fact that Hannah was apparently friendly with her before makes it feel even meaner. A year later, Jess is still a lot. She gets into that nasty fight with Emily at the lodge, is openly smug about dating Mike after Emily did, and her relationship with Mike can come off pretty shallow and insecure depending on choices. She’s not secretly the worst person on the mountain, and she spends most of the actual horror portion as a victim rather than an instigator, but her role in the prank isnt a footnote." Propaganda: "She's honestly more interesting than the fandom sometimes lets her be. She’s easy to write off as the sexy mean girl who caused the prank, got taken early, and then disappeared from most of the game, but that’s also why I wish she got more material. Her survival path in the mines is genuinely upsetting because by the time she wakes up, she has no idea what’s happening, she’s injured, alone, half-dressed in the freezing dark, and suddenly the big loud party-girl act is gone. She starts the game as someone who hides insecurity under flirting, confidence, and bitchiness, then the horror strips all of that away. If she survives, she isn’t quippy or glamorous or smug by the end, she’s just traumatised and trying to stay alive. I don’t need the game to pretend she was innocent in what happened to Hannah, I just think there’s a lot more there than “Jess bad, Jess hot, Jess dies”."

"oh but josh's so creepy about the girls"

You do realize he talks like that only with the boys to try to provoke them right? He's trying to piss them off, and it either works or not (depending on your choice). He's actively trying to make them slowly hate him so that it's easier for himself to go along with the prank and hurt them. Yes, the prank didn't really include the rest of them, but he only talked like that with Chris BEFORE the prank, and then with Chris and Mike when they restrained him. And both times he was trying to piss them off. He was going through a manic episode and was being passively suicidal, which is not that new of a development (he did have an "accident" months before his sister's death, as you find out with his medical records)

We don't know how he would've have normally talked about the girls, because we never really see him outside of his psychotic break. We just didn't know he was already IN ONE when we see him at the reunion. Even the guys were weirded out by him talking like that. They wouldn't be if he already did that BEFORE.

Edit:

Might add "but his mental state doesn't excuse him being creepy"

No, it doesn't, but let's think for a second.

Do you honestly think if he wasn't going insane he would have filmed Sam in the bath? Or punched Ashley? Or talked like that about the girls? This is the same person who, while getting restrained, said "can't tie 'em up if they just wiggle around-" and then WIGGLED, said "sleepover, can we order pizza?" and spent the entire time shit talking and raigebaiting the shit out of them.

He was a raigebaiter even before, and yeah, I'm not saying that we never see him being sincere or lucid or being himself the entire game, case that would be untrue, but c'mon you can't take seriously most of what he says.