I lived as a trans man for 10 years before detransitioning and reconnecting with myself as a woman and a lesbian.
I'm against transition because it's medically harmful, not because I have any hate towards trans people.
Gender ideology disproportionately affects lesbian and bisexual women and tomboys, and causes us to become divorced from our community of women and disconnected from feminism. This leaves us vulnerable to all forms of abuse as well as psychological and medical distress.
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Self-mutilation, mutilated or disfigured is just the accurate medical terms, and tifs think everyone is a Nazi bigot extremist for going against them anyways. You’re all too sensitive all the time, how can we ever make any points if you all throw emotional tantrums over the English language?
Think that's all? This is just anecdotal evidence? Wondering how this happened?
https://www.tumblr.com/thecottongaslight has been documenting this since 2016.
Lesbian Rights NZ collected hundreds of examples of this before it closed. The link is to a web archive of the page, as the old url is now a porn website.
another receipts blog collected a bunch more receipts that I've reblogged HERE. Oh, and there's this one, too.
Iran executes people for homosexuality, but has legalized and subsidized sex-change surgery since 1987. State-sponsored conversion therapy.
Medical transition emerged from early 1900s theory that treated homosexuality and gender nonconformity as medical conditions to be cured and/or sterilized.
I wonder how much transitioning in Iran is open to men versus women. I'd suspect a woman is "best" if she conforms and also it may endanger her fertility. Are trans men allowed to be as common as trans women? Wouldn't women use that as a loophole to escape oppression?
Both women and gay men use transition as a loophole to escape oppression. In Iran and everywhere else in the world. It's just usually subconscious.
people love to act like a child’s sense of self is fixed. it's not. not your politics, not your style, not your favorite color, none of it is solid at that age. the brain is still developing, still changing, especially in adolescence.
so explain to me how a 13 or even a 17 year old is supposed to know, with total certainty, that they want to spend the rest of their life mimicking the opposite sex. as a medical patient. lifelong hormones. lifelong appointments. lifelong dependency on a healthcare system.
that's not liberation. that's a child making a permanent decision based on their incomplete idea of who they are, and adults handing them a scalpel instead of saying “wait”
i detransitioned. i know what it's like to think you've found the answer at an age when you don't even know who you are yet. protecting minors from irreversible medical intervention isn't hateful.
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the comments on your post about using mutilated to refer to detrans people are so typical lmfao. I'm detrans and use mutilated to refer to my body, but it's very clear many of these types use mutilated as a way to humiliate the people they're criticizing. The women who are arguing they use this language because they have no sympathy for trans ppl examplify this, and all I can think about is how these are usually the same ppl adamantly against child transition, who know how pervasive and predatory that is, yet conveniently forget a ton of these 'mutilated' people are only mutilated because they were medically abused as kids. I also just find it so obnoxious when they hop onto posts where a detrans woman is clearly just venting about her experiences and then try to turn it into a debate. For them it's a thought exercise (and one they're usually utterly insensitive about), for us it's reality. Ngl I'm at the point where I roll my eyes when most people try to talk about trans stuff like they know shit about it. On the surface it's a very cut and dry controversy, but in actuality most ppl don't understand it deeply because they've never been in that position. So they then go on to say wildly oversimplistic/inaccurate things and get pissy with detransitioners when we press them on their stances. At the end of the day, a lot of them just want to use strong language that expresses their own disgust for either the situation or the transitioner. They don't gaf about how the affected ppl feel about it, which makes it even more obnoxious when they pose as activists.
People are really twisting what I said. Yes, cutting healthy breasts off a body could be called mutilation, because doing that is wrong and fucked up. What I actually meant is that it's wrong to intentionally use language like this as a means to insult and inflame people who have gone through medical transition. I see this a lot in reaction-styled content, it's not productive to act cruelly toward women who've medically transitioned.
It's wrong to insult someone's physical characteristics just because you dislike them, because then you're insulting everyone who has that characteristic. If you look at a woman who identifies as trans and had her breasts removed and say "she's so mutilated, so disfigured, that's disgusting" that statement applies just as much to detransitioned women who've had mastectomies and to women who've had mastectomies from breast cancer. You're attacking the same physical feature they have.
When I was transitioning, I was referred to with similarly cruel words, and it only pushed me further into believing what I was doing was correct. It made me unwilling to hear the other side and further delayed my detransition. If someone had spoken to me in a more neutral way about what I was doing and why I was doing it, things could’ve been different.
We need to treat these situations delicately, and just act like decent human beings when talking about another woman's body.
hi i just wanted to thank you for the post you made arguing against referring to women who’ve had mastectomies as “disfigured.” as a detrans woman who had top surgery as a child i already feel awful about my body but am trying to find acceptance and acknowledge that what happened to me was not my fault and i was literally a kid. i see so many people saying “well you chose this, you deserve to be ridiculed.” it disheartens me to hear people who claim to care about women say that because i was obviously a victim of medical malpractice. anyways i’ll stop rambling but i just wanted to say it does make me happy to see people calling out how messed up that language is.
Thank you for sharing this, and I'm sorry you've had to deal with people saying that to you, you were a child, and none of what happened to you was a choice you made with full understanding or consent. That's not on you.
I also want to point something out: people being cruel to trans-identified people and defending their "right" to do it by saying they brought it on themselves for being part of trans ideology, that's the exact same logic trans activists use against detransitioners. Telling someone they deserve to suffer because their choices are "all their fault" is the same move either direction. It's not an argument, it's just cruelty looking for an excuse. If it's wrong when it's aimed at you, it's wrong when it's aimed at anyone else too.
not 2 be fake deep but…capitalism commodifies everything, even the self. You think about your body as though you are outside of it. You assign a value to it based on how well it can help you move thru the world. I stand outside of myself saying “at least this body is still young, at least this face is still beautiful. These are things that will help me make it.” Your body becomes a thing. But the whole time your body has been you, and so you become a thing.
Not sure where I’m going with this yet, it’s kind of a jumble… but I thought I would share some information about the history of sex changes in Iran, because I think it can be useful for radfems.
Iran is the 2nd leading country in the world for most sex changes. Why?
At most, I think western radfems have heard that “Iran does forced sex changes”, and that’s the extent of what people know. So I wanted to dig a little farther in and get some more information about how this actually functions and the history of it.
First things first - they’re not exactly “forced”. But young gender non-conforming and gay people are being diagnosed with GID and pressured into transition for the sake of conforming to a fascist society, and escaping the heavy discrimination and criminalization of homosexuality in the country.
Those who do identify as transgender are heavily pressured and potentially subject to violence if they choose not to undergo surgery. They are forced to have surgery in the specific case that they want to live legally as the opposite sex. The law is essentially - Pick a side. If you’re gay and don’t choose to transition, or your partner doesn’t choose to transition, you have no legal right to have sex or live your life with someone you love. This has been going on since the 1980s.
Something I find interesting is how obvious the pipeline from gay -> trans is in Iran. Mental health professionals in Iran appear to be diagnosing anyone who is having issues related to their gender nonconformity or orientation as transsexual. (Sound familiar?) And because homosexuality is illegal in Iran and can even be punished with the death sentence, it’s easy to see why the pressure to conform is so heavy.
The first link below talks about how this system reinforces homophobia, with some transitioning people actually having homophobic beliefs despite being homosexual themselves.
I don’t know… I think people have this idea that Iran is such a different place with such strange laws and religion that dictates what people do - But it’s almost exactly the same as what’s happening in western countries, just amplified under a more fascist system, and in a different language.
Now they’re trying to profit from medical tourism for sex change operations. See the last link below. They’re flying Americans and others in from western countries, organizing the whole thing, and doing major surgery before shipping them right back, likely without competent local doctors to treat their inevitable complications. All while gay people are still being beaten, killed, and subjected to conversion shock therapy practically right outside the door.
I think people in the US right now have this idea that conservative governments will put a stop to transition. And that may be true when it comes to children, at least in parts of the country, but we can see in Iran that sex changes are not only something that can be permitted under a conservative or fascist government, but can even be endorsed by that government and religious leaders. Not to mention the surgeons who make bank off the procedures.
Sex change in Iran is seen as a better alternative rather than accepting openly gay and GNC people. The lives and wellbeing of the people they’re “treating” are secondary to their need for absolute conformity. I don’t think I’m out of line to say that we see similar things in western countries.
I think that one of the biggest difficulties for women detransitioning is how much it can impact your life, your livelihood, and the way you’re treated by society when you go from passing and conforming as male to being viewed as a very masculine female person. The level of discrimination that we’re faced with as gnc women, and especially as wlw, is less severe than in more fascist and homophobic countries, but that discrimination is still very much a factor. And for many of us, we experience way more discrimination and possible violence or harassment as masculine women than we did as transgender men. There are so many social forces that push conformity at any cost, even in countries which are relatively liberal and less homophobic.
I think it’s important for radical feminists to know this history because it’s an important case study. I think it can be used to explain this concept to people who aren’t aware of how conservatism has led to trans ideology, and how that pipeline functions in individual people who transition even in the west.
How it became possible, what Islamic law says, and the statistics on surgeries.
Forced sex changes must stop now - Justice for Iran
Transgender rights in Iran - Wikipedia
The New York Times describes how Iran, already known for its large number of sex reassignment surgeries, is actively promoting itself as a
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"ability" to be sexually assaulted is insane language.
this new notion of trans women being better at womanhood because they don't go through the fear and pessimism of living the reality of "womahood" in today's society.... is so... so misogynistic.
imagine looking in the eyes of one of those afghan girls who said they hate being a woman, or an exhausted mother, or a young girl being picked on by boys in school and saying this to them.
essentially, if you're not a toxicly positive bimbo who "enjoys" her womanhood despite all the violence & hatred she gets from society, you're doing the whole woman thing wrong.
A significant portion of "transfems" are nothing more than just women-hating incels.
The thought process that goes behind believing a demographic that statistically does the least amount of harm is actually evil and deserves to be killed, while simultaneously holding nowhere near the same level of vitriol towards the demographic that actually murders and assaults "transfems" (which is OTHER MALES, mind you) should raise some brows, even amongst TRAs.
Also, notice how in many of these posts it isn't just "transmascs" but "tme" people in general, which includes "cis" women, y'know, the group these trans identified men claim to be the same as and share "kinship" with. They believe themselves to be superior to females because they are "trans" (aka MEN) while simultaneously claiming to be female. This is nothing new; males have been claiming that females are inferior for centuries, this is just the same thing in a different font.
I don’t understand why they hate the trans mascs so much. Like I know it’s misogyny but I don’t know the reason they claim to have such beef with their supposed “brothers”
sorry to add more examples but they actually REALLY hate trans mascs. They hate them beyond belief. this isn't even all of what i have seen, i randomly selected a few screenshots in the folder that i've been saving for a few weeks.
So the reason that they hate them is misogyny obviously, but also consider that these are the "afabs" that are closest and most accessible to them, the ones who bear the brunt of their abuse. It's like asking why amish men especially mistreat amish women. And I think what we need to be aware of is that ftms/transmascs deserve empathy and understanding in this situation. It simply won't work to attack or to ridicule their beliefs and identity, when they're already facing harassment from their own community. From everything we know about religions and cult dynamics, that will only entrench them further in their beliefs that feminists are the enemy.
I would suggest that radfems treat transmascs with respect and empathy. Or failing that, leave them alone. They have a huge mental and social block when it comes to speaking with "suppressive persons" aka radfems... I know it's frustrating to watch, but this situation is growing unsustainable for many of them, so it's likely that many of them will reach these conclusions on their own, in their own way and in their own time. The best thing we can do is provide acceptance, solidarity, and support when they get there.
i will always have an endless amount of love and empathy for transmascs because i've been exactly where they are. i left the community before the tme/tma shit started but the violence aimed at trans men by trans women has always existed.
it was this violence that i could never fully agree with. i realized that they treat transmascs the same way they treat radfems. i realized that, despite their insistence to the contrary, we were still women to them. swapping the terms they used (from "transmasc" to "terf") revealed an identical rhetoric of hate.
and then i experienced the horror of knowing that i played right into their hand. that i was not only agreeing with their misogyny, but i was actively praising and promoting it. i played a part in normalizing the rhetoric that has hurt my fellow women so badly.
i think this realization keeps a lot of people trapped in the community. acknowledging reality means acknowledging the hurt you've caused yourself and others. it means swallowing your pride and accepting that you fell to manipulation and propaganda.
"i would never be stupid enough to join a cult," says everybody on earth.
They hate transmascs and wlw more than any other group of people because we have what they never will:
A female body and the ability to date female lesbians.
They can’t stand the fact that we’re able to live the life and date the women that they fetishize but will never have access to.
They’re insanely, irrationally jealous. That’s why they lash out, talk shit, call us names. And it’s also what makes at least some of them physically dangerous to transmasc people.
Trans is used like 'not identifying with their sex' ('assigned gender at birth') and cis is used like 'identifying with their sex' but for me it's just like fake and real. You can't 'identify' with your sex like you can't identify with the rest of your body. You might feel disconnected or distressed because of some body parts but the body parts themselves aren't the problem. The disconnection/distress is.
Sex doesn't determine interests, hobbies, emotions or thoughts either. Sex isn't part of personality but it can affect personality like developing the fear of men because of bad experiences or getting conditioned into certain stereotypes but those personality changes/traits aren't triggered by biology, they're triggered by trauma and social expectations
I think that plays a big role for gender dysphoria but instead of saying stuff like 'you might feel disconnected to your breasts because you gained bad experiences because of them' they say 'it's because you're a man' and that's honestly sad and dangerous. It takes away the responsibility to protect girls and women from gaining bad experiences (because of their sex characteristics) and feeling bad, getting depressed or traumatized because of those experiences since 'they can identify as a man' instead
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someone else said it first but i’m forever revolted by the fact that gender clinics and other parts of our medical system define a “functional” vagina as any hole between the legs that a penis can be put in.
This is how society views female genitalia. They don't quite view it as a human organ in all the integrity that would insinuate. They view it kinda like an accessory to dick. It's defined in relation to dick- not defined by its own self. It's viewed as like a negative space juxtaposed to a positive object (dick). It's viewed as like the background to the main character (dick). It's not seen fully as its own thing with its own functions for its own right and its own integrity. Because of this, something interesting happens with the way people view women- we are seen both as sex objects, and as sexless objects simultaneously. This is the heart of why women aren't seen as fully human, in my opinion. Part of being human is having genitalia. Women aren't fully seen as having genitalia.
Anyway. This is why, in people's mind, it makes sense to cut a random hole and say what? It's exactly the same as a vagina what's the difference?