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Vampires do not live symbiotically with humanity. They do not share in the daily struggle of human life. Instead, they feed, siphoning away our vitality in order to extend their own unnatural existence. But if we are their fuel, are we not also their strength?

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 01.06 | "Like Angels Put in Hell by God"

They are already making Louis look bad with the lying and now to add “context” or whatever to the worst thing that happened to him in a season where we won’t get to hear his thoughts on it doesn’t seem right. 

I know you hate bringing up Lestat’s abusive behavior but the drop IS abuse and to have that be recontextualized in favor of another character makes it look like the writers are trying to downplay the pain it caused Louis. Imagine they did the same with Gabi or Magnus about their behavior towards Lestat. I don’t think you or many other people would like that because it does seem like a way to minimize the impact.

It’s not about what I like?!

Or what you think.

This is what will happen.

It’s been set up, Sam hinted, they’re going there.

None of what some of us are predicting will happen is because it is something we would like to happen.

What we want has nothing to do with it!!

What you, anon, want has nothing to do with it!!

IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE STORY IS GOING TO DO! BECAUSE THE WRITERS HAVE BEEN SETTING IT UP TO GO THERE SINCE SEASON ONE!!! HELL BEFORE SEASON ONE BEGAN FILMING THIS WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN!!

AND THAT IS IT!!

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANY OF US THINKS!

YOU CAN'T STOP IT.

NONE OF US CAN STOP IT.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT IS GOING TO BE THIS WAY. WHETHER YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE, LIKES IT OR NOT.

So honestly? Stop trying to negotiate this.

Even if such a thing had been possible (which it wasn't, btw), it is too late now.

It was clear from Season 1 that they were going to once again revisit the fight and drop in both Season 2 and Season 3. And what they are going to do to give more context about it was hinted at all the way back in Season 1 as well.

The. Show. Was. Always. Going. To. Do. This.

And attacking people who figured out the show was going to do this back during Season 1 (which @nalyra-dreaming did, BTW!) by saying it was something they wanted to happen, or would like for it to happen, was never what was going on. Either then or now.

It was just being able to see clearly what the show was doing. And what it was always setting up to do. Period.

If you are angry about this, you should have been angry at the writers of the show back during Season 1.

Not that they would have changed what they were setting up to do, but maybe they would have better understood the mistake they made in not even just hinting more about the context and clarity they are about to do now with all of this.

And the fact that this was all allowed to sit for four years, instead of just one year, as would have been the case if IWTV hadn't been split into two seasons, is also a factor with all of this as well. (Not that I think Rolin Jones cares how fandom is going to react to it, of course. As said, he and AMC have long been prepared for people to drop the show.)

Anyway, the main point is: stop trying to put things like this on the people who've correctly been predicting the show was setting up to do this. Those who saw it coming, who knew this was coming, and have been saying so for years now, were people who were able to see the forest when it came to this, not just the trees.

And it was never about liking for it to happen or wanting it to. Because it is not, and never has been, about that, and was only about that the show itself was signaling it was going to do it. And has been doing so from the start.

Some of us saw that. Some of you didn't.

And, even though it was pretty much always impossible to have it changed, it is for sure too late to do so now.

There was a fierceness in him in this bright light that I hadn’t seen before.

my mom is in fact aware that dandelions exist. she temporarily forgot the name and there was some miscommunication.

the truth is actually weirder

she’s aware dandelions look like this

she is familiar with this flower. she knows the name of this flower. she declines to believe, however, that these are also dandelions

she does not believe these are the same plant. I tried to explain, and she thought I was either misinformed or lying. so I asked her what exactly did she think the yellow ones were called?

gosh I enjoy this website

he patiently listened to salamander's awful song, than gave some constructive criticism to TC and then ended up making an actual song out of it.

he readily welcomed alex back and was very warm and gentle in his words with him when he could have been annoyed.

he obviously deeply appreciates and respects christine and how she runs things, enough to ask for her help in the interview.

that small moment where fareed corrected him was really sweet and shows that he respects his opinion and doesn't mind being corrected (and was very empathetic about his mother).

ep 1: feeling lonely, he seeks her out all ep as he literally spirals bc of drugs.

ep 2: speaks of her fondly, doesn’t really address how abusive she was as a human. gabi in present day crosses his boundaries and he blames it on both of them.

ep 3: lestat recalls how cruel she was in the past with nicki, and she punishes him for setting the no sex boundary by fucking jarda loudly to humiliate him. he becomes upset with her.

ep 4: she has left him again likely as a punishment for leaving her after the interview, triggering his abandonment issues (which she caused). he recalls more of her coldness and we see the first time he’s coerced into having sex with her to earn her love.

then we see him actually confront her about it when he says “why do you come back? why don’t you let me hate you?” (like he tried to the first time they had sex after he brought up that she touched him inappropriately when they were still human) and just like before, she just ignores his distress and he find he is still so powerless in their dynamic.

idk it’s not unnecessary when it shapes literally every part of lestat’s personality. ppl say they’re depicting it badly when this is one of the few shows i’ve seen depict incest as what it is: abuse. mfs out here watching house of the dragon where incest is like…. normalized… but a show actually taking you through a victim understanding he was abused is too much?

THE VAMPIRE LESTAT 3.04 ✧ THE DEVIL'S ROAD

I don't think you'll find much explanation in the books, because nothing of the magnitude that was S1E5 happens in the books. 😅

Because the thing is Louis' account was canonically dismissed as lies, and the show is following that canon. There was a time when I thought they wouldn't due to the violence in S1E5, but S3 has proven that they very much are still following the book canon there. Granted they've softened Louis' lies via the Talamasca edits and the Armand brainwashing, but the layer of Louis deliberately misrepresenting certain events still exists amongst the softening, and they've made it worse by having Louis lie to Lestat's face for years by not having Louis tell Lestat that the book was even a thing.

The main issue is because they did something as horrific as the fight/drop with the racial implications without considering the ramifications of when they would (essentially) walk it back. Or maybe they did consider it and just didn't care. I don't know. All I know is that mess is the problem in this fandom, has always been the problem, and never should've happened, but the fact remains Lestat was framed as the ultimate "abuser" in S1 and now it's time for the book canon moment of when that depiction is walked back and it becomes "actually Louis lied to hide his own culpability."

And like I said, because of what they did in S1, people are taking issue with it, and I do understand that. It was the absolute worst mistake the show could've made, and it continues to cause problems and has damaged Lestat's character as a result.

But it is what it is and after 4 years of having this same argument over and over, I'm just very tired of having to rehash how it got to this point and what the writers are doing with it, whether we agree with the choice or not, because the show is doing what it's doing (Episode 5 will be a doozy), and I'm just here in a state of apathetic acceptance, because we literally cannot do zilch about it.