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general disclaimer of “yes i know a lot of things on spn are due to bad writing so most of the happy accidents are just that. accidents”

going back to the “chuck has taken over jack’s body and won in the end” theory bc it’s making my brain melt by how much it would have made sense if the writers actually gave a textual follow-through (like what is the standard for that now? it’s so low.)

15x17, aka unity, establishes chuck as privy to all of their plans. he’s the capital-G God, all-knowing, almighty. “what part of omniscient do you people not understand?” kind of character. for him to be tricked, to be outsmarted by the winchesters is so laughably out of character. c’mon! this is gabriel’s father we are talking about!

what does chuck want? unity with amara. not out of the goodness of his heart, obviously, but to have her power. to have the eternal balance of light and darkness… so he is now even More powerful than ever before. literally the most powerful being in all of the creation to ever exist - past, present, or future; in every single world and iteration imaginable… and for what? to just… not use it? to hang the chekhov’s gun?

i can’t think of anything chuck does in 15x17 and later as anything less than planned. “so i can’t read my “death book.” so what? i control space and time. just plant a few visions, goad death a little… mess with a few outcomes… and… bada-bing! they think they can kill me?”

you’re telling me he gets rid of almost everyone in existence in 15x18 and then… doesn’t watch what the 2.5 remaining humans do? after he spent forever trying to get to this point. is no one suspicious we did not see what he’d been doing that entire time?

like, okay. he frees lucifer to hatecrime dean make a new death read his book. but then doesn’t even let that happen. and we know chuck can’t read the book. so he doesn’t Really care what’s in there. then why send lucifer there at all? oh, well, isn’t it Just So Convenient that michael - also? somehow kept alive? for what purpose, pray tell? - can fight him, charging little ol’ jack.

AND JACK… i refuse to believe chuck didn’t know what was going on there. he speeds up the bomb, forcing billie’s hand to save him by making him blow up in the empty and getting the power vacuum ability. it’s a chess move! you put your opposition in check and force them to make moves in the only way that allows them to keep the strongest pieces on board. if the empty was the only thing that could handle jack, chuck had to know. maybe making it loud was a way for chuck to punish the empty as well, hitting both birds at once. in FACT, i wanna say that the whole make-jack-into-a-bomb plan was his all along, what’s with the “goading death” and “messing with outcomes” bit. i mean, one of the first things that chuck did as the self-proclaimed villain is kill jack.

so he makes jack into a divine power hoover. what next? he has to get rid of billie somehow. how? oh, maybe with the empty, which we have just learned is also under his control. so. how is he going to do it?

enter: cas. what else does 15x17 establish? chuck Hates cas for being the annoying cogwheel in his plans, the One thing that always messes with his plans. it’s not too much of a reach to think that chuck wants him gone.

what do cas and billie have in common besides wanting dean’s heart? they can See what jack is. sure, cas’s grace has been dwindling, which is why he might not have seen what Exactly was happening to jack in 15x18, but they didn’t even get enough time together for cas to see what’s up. billie already knew what was going on from reading the revision in chuck’s death book. if cas stayed alive, he would have been the first to figure it out.

so, to recap/restate this point:

chuck kills jack, sending him into the empty.

billie wakes jack, telling him that she has a plan.

billie makes jack into a bomb.

billie convinces dean that this is the only way + that they also need to get amara involved, kiling both amara and chuck at the same time.

(cannot state this enough. billie puts in So Much Effort into making dean specifically very mad at chuck. almost as if she - and maybe someone else. idk. someone omniscient. - knows just how easy it is to make dean angry and determined and self-righteous)

dean convinces amara to join them.

jack tells cas about billie’s plan’s implications for him, and then cas tells dean about it.

(wanna say that if the divorce arc did not happen, cas wouldn’t have told him about it. it’s like. an example of trust and growth.)

dean, influenced by billie, is suddenly fine with going through with it, even if it means jack has to die.

sam goes after god’s book, finding the shadow there, and finding out about billie’s ~secret villain plans~, and the fact that chuck actually does have control over the empty.

amara and chuck reunite. chuck goes along with amara’s pretense, and then convinces her to give herself up for him.

dean and jack set off the bomb.

dean and sam face-off in a typical “dean is Angry but is Doing What Is Right, and sam is There To Guilt Dean Into Not Doing It”, but when it doesn’t work, chuck is mad at them.

(i know that he goes “you know, i tried and i tried and i tried, but you’re all just too stupid, too stubborn. too broken. you know what? i’m over it. i’m over you.” but like. it’s just one plan that didn’t work. that’s the same dude who literally just a few minutes ago said “mess with a few outcomes” and you’re telling me he’s “giving up” after one more plan to get one of the winchesters dead didn’t pan out?)

chuck speeds up the explosion, forcing billie to send jack into the empty

jack blows up in the empty, getting the power-sucking ability

billie brings jack back and reads the updated chapter on how chuck is going to die

billie tries to take jack with her, but dean attacks, making a fatal hit, but she is able to get away, leaving her scythe behind with dean.

chuck starts making people disappear, but only after billie’s plan is revealed. charlie is one of the first people affected, so she’s surely to let sam and dean know about it

sam, the de-facto leader of the hunters, sets off to get everyone who is still there to a safe house. dean, saying “i started this. i’m gonna end it.”, decides to go after billie, as they believe it’s her fault that people are being thanos-snapped.

(jack is weak, so he’s going with sam. cas goes with dean, as he always would.)

jack pulls the energy out of the plant.

cas and dean arrive at death’s library and confront billie. she tells them that 1)  it’s chuck who’s taking people, 2) she’s dying, 3) she’s going to take dean with her.

dean and cas get back to the bunker, and billie attacks dean.

cas takes dean to a room and wards the door.

cas remembers his deal with the empty. it is STRESSED that it’s THE ONLY thing that can solve the problem.

cas confesses to dean, summoning the empty, which takes out both cas and billie.

chuck tells sam, dean, and jack that this is it. he’s just gonna leave them to suffer alone, but then…

chuck leaves michael alive, and lets jack sense him - basically giving them michael on a silver platter.

(did jack have this power before? we don’t know. it is convenient now. also, the fact that chuck took adam out of the equation is important as well, as he could have probably convinced michael to let things go.)

chuck brings back lucifer, making it all about the book he doesn’t even need at this point, basically orchestrating the fight between the two archangels, charging jack.

kills michael and beats up sam and dean, charging jack even more.

(like, he could have just killed them. he could have easily just killed them right then and there. steve rogers voice You Chose To Do That. like, jack was just Standing there.)

lets jack absorb his powers… absorb him. the light, the darkness, everything. literally just backed up the hard drive.

gives a cope-out speech about wanting dean to kill him.

(c’mon this man probably thought dean letting him live was poetic.)

jack - behaving Not Like Jack At All Whatsoever (like please alcal tell me was that your acting choices? did you just decide to play god the same way rob played god? or was it a purposeful thing? was it scripted? was it the director’s decision?) - brings back the missing people (though we don’t see any of the important ones grrrrr).

jack does not bring cas back to the winchesters. and dean does not ask for him? when he did so earlier in the same episode? yelling at chuck? saying that he’d kill sam and himself to bring cas back along with everyone else?

jack goes on a Weird speech, the kind that chuck would 100% have written.

…15x20.

dean dies young, on his father’s unfinished hunt; sam grows old, without purpose; ~heaven~ is rebuilt in both literal sense and also what it means to the characters, bc none of them ever cared abt it really before; cas is Finally in his place, working for god.

tl;dr: to quote cas from 15x18, “…it’s a chain reaction.” most - if not all - of these things happened because they were the only possible outcome of the cause-effect consequence of the characters’ actions, going back all the way to chuck killing jack in the end of s14.

- i thought stuff like biggerson’s and gas-n-sip were real

- i thought stanford was a fictional school they created specifically for sam in spn

- i thought kia sorento was a person

- i thought ‘kill’ ‘gank’ and ‘waste’ were like. pretty much equally used because of how much dean uses them

- i thought motels was just what people in america called hotels. i thought they just replaced the ‘h’ by a ‘m’ for some reason. just for kicks. why not

- i didn’t know ‘vessel’ could mean anything else than. well possessed person i guess. and was deeply distraught when my teacher asked me what it meant, listened to me rant about it for two minutes then went ‘its just like. a boat’

- it took me a while to realize that the word hunter was not, as a matter of fact, specifically applied to monsters

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