ma'am

You sit here and you’re all confused about this thing, but you have it. 

I’m not sure if it’s the actress, because I couldn’t stand Jess from True Blood either, or if it’s only just the character. Either way… She is a Mary Sue. If she isn’t crying she’s trying to tell everyone how to live their lives the way SHE wants to all while the hypocrite has a murder hidden in her closet. And GOD she is just “so great” that even the Punisher, who is still dealing with the death of his family, suddenly is her LI in his new show? And Daredevil? And don’t forget whats-his-face who was Matt’s partner in season 1.

Fandom misogyny is REAL MISOGYNY. If you can’t have sympathy with women in media then when? Submit links, found posts, memes, meta posts or metacommentary. Our profile pic is just SOME of the women who get disproportionate amounts of hate.

That aside, you seem to be misunderstanding why I replied to your post, so let me clear things up!

Not liking a character? Fine! Personal opinion.

Not liking a character for sexist reasons? Sexist, gonna get called out by us.

I don’t care if you don’t like Karen. I care that your reasons are pure garbage sexism. There was no personal reason here as to why you don’t like Karen, just “she’s too popular and liked for a woman!” If you’re going to complain about that, you have to at least realize that this describes literally all the male characters and singling Karen out is sexism at work.

I don’t think OP dislikes Karen for sexist reasons. That’s a reach if I’ve ever seen one, especially considering the fact that the four women they mentioned are some of the strongest characters in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

You came in and started comparing it with men?

There was no personal reason here as to why you don’t like Karen, just “she’s too popular and liked for a woman!”

When she is the love interest of 3 people at the same time, all 3 happening to be main characters, it is a bit too much. I don’t think that has anything to do with sexism. It just puts Karen at the center of attention, which can be obnoxious for someone who is not invested in her character.

Your argument borders on a strawman fallacy. This is not about Karen being too popular or liked, this is about Karen being the love interest of 3 central characters, which is not something that occurs with any of the men in the Netflix series (might also be the case with the rest of the MCU, but I can’t recall).

Mary Sue might be poor wording on OP’s part, but if you read the rest of the post it’s quite clear that their main complaints are that 

1) Karen tries to impose her own morals onto everyone else while still failing to follow those herself. 

2) OP feels that it’s unrealistic that a traumatized individual who is still reeling from the loss of his wife already has a new love interest.

3) Karen being the love interest of 3 main characters is too much.

Luke… Jessica, Misty, and Claire

Matt.. Claire, Karen, and Elektra

Of course none of Matt’s love interests are leads in their own solo series, there’s only one! One female to four males. So odds are your male love interest may have his own series.

I’m not sure if it’s the actress, because I couldn’t stand Jess from True Blood either, or if it’s only just the character. Either way… She is a Mary Sue. If she isn’t crying she’s trying to tell everyone how to live their lives the way SHE wants to all while the hypocrite has a murder hidden in her closet. And GOD she is just “so great” that even the Punisher, who is still dealing with the death of his family, suddenly is her LI in his new show? And Daredevil? And don’t forget whats-his-face who was Matt’s partner in season 1.

Fandom misogyny is REAL MISOGYNY. If you can’t have sympathy with women in media then when? Submit links, found posts, memes, meta posts or metacommentary. Our profile pic is just SOME of the women who get disproportionate amounts of hate.

That aside, you seem to be misunderstanding why I replied to your post, so let me clear things up!

Not liking a character? Fine! Personal opinion.

Not liking a character for sexist reasons? Sexist, gonna get called out by us.

I don’t care if you don’t like Karen. I care that your reasons are pure garbage sexism. There was no personal reason here as to why you don’t like Karen, just “she’s too popular and liked for a woman!” If you’re going to complain about that, you have to at least realize that this describes literally all the male characters and singling Karen out is sexism at work.

I don’t think OP dislikes Karen for sexist reasons. That’s a reach if I’ve ever seen one, especially considering the fact that the four women they mentioned are some of the strongest characters in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

You came in and started comparing it with men?

There was no personal reason here as to why you don’t like Karen, just “she’s too popular and liked for a woman!”

When she is the love interest of 3 people at the same time, all 3 happening to be main characters, it is a bit too much. I don’t think that has anything to do with sexism. It just puts Karen at the center of attention, which can be obnoxious for someone who is not invested in her character.

Your argument borders on a strawman fallacy. This is not about Karen being too popular or liked, this is about Karen being the love interest of 3 central characters, which is not something that occurs with any of the men in the Netflix series (might also be the case with the rest of the MCU, but I can’t recall).

Mary Sue might be poor wording on OP’s part, but if you read the rest of the post it’s quite clear that their main complaints are that 

1) Karen tries to impose her own morals onto everyone else while still failing to follow those herself. 

2) OP feels that it’s unrealistic that a traumatized individual who is still reeling from the loss of his wife already has a new love interest.

3) Karen being the love interest of 3 main characters is too much.

Luke... Jessica, Misty, and Claire

Matt.. Claire, Karen, and Elektra

daredevil: 2x12 | the punisher: 1x10