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hello! apologies for the late response, i'm only now getting around to answering some of the questions in my inbox.
here are some of my favorite sitcoms, not in order:
1. Derry Girls - I think this is one of the most perfect shows of all time. It hits a pitch perfect tone of clever and egregiously slapstick, with an immensely tense historical background that adds back a certain edge and element of pathos. Not just funny for the sake of being funny, but also extremely funny. Also this is one of the few shows where teenage characters actually act like teenagers in all of their immense stupidity.
2. Ted Lasso - Idk if it's fair to call this a sitcom considering the very shallow layer of humor hiding an immense heart. I am not a sports person but like anyone else, I am a sucker for the underdog and this show gets this like no other. There's so much to love about this show that I can't really get into it here.
3. Parks & Rec - I like this more than the other Michael Schul sitcoms, maybe because I vibe a little too closely to unhinged overachiever + burnt out government cynic combo. Somehow the most realistic sitcom I've seen, esp. pre-season 6, which makes its humor doubly impactful. Vote in local elections, y'all.
5. The Thick of It - I admit that 99% of this is because the viewer gets to live vicariously through Malcolm as being a horrendous shit to other horrendous shits, and there's a kind of catharsis in that.
6. Veep - Less cathartic than the Thick of It but nothing really beats Julia Louis-Dreyfus's knack for enunciation.
7. New Girl - I will put this in here only because I've rewatched it many, many times, which proves its ability to be watchable in the background. It is not better than the others on this list but it is better than the other friend group-oriented sitcoms out there (exception of Seinfeld?). That being said, there's a lot about this show that strikes offense in the year of our Lord 2021 so watch with caution.
I saw a post doing the rounds with recommendations for good starter k-drama romances. Iâve dropped four out of six of them with a vengeance, and you couldnât pay me to start the other two. Obviously this is on me. Maybe itâs part of a transition to the witchy crone part of my career. Maybe I donât really like k-drama romances at all.
But no: when I think of dramas I associate them specifically with love stories, with their novelistic depictions of our feelings for each other.
So I gave some consideration to k-drama romances that work for me, and this is the short list of my favourites that I came up with, in no particular order.
Fated To Love You: I'm condemning myself right out of the gates. This show literally begins with a sex crime and is about a chaebol and a temp marrying each other to legitimise an accidental pregnancy. It was made in 2014 but looks like it came out in 2004. Everything about it is arrant cringe.
But itâs beautifully right about one really important thing. Our leads genuinely like each other. Not attracted; not infatuated; not bewitched body and soul. They *like* one another. And why shouldn't they? Theyâre both sincerely good people. Heâs canât help but love and care for the people who cross his path. Sheâs courteous and thoughtful to a fault. And they get that about each other almost immediately!
Itâs inexplicable how hard the drama pushes their and our buttons in spite of that, almost as if to challenge us to flinch from the bizarre-to-offensive ridiculousness that transpires on screen over 20 episodes. But the things it gets right are things very few others get right. And in Jang Hyuk and Jang Na-ra it brings us the most sparkling chemistry I think Iâve ever seenâtwo perfectly matched movie stars whose primary goal is to have fun riffing off each other. (Iâve gone on about this show elsewhere; and one of the things that draws me to Dali & Gamjatang is that thereâs an echo of the core dynamic of FTLY at work between the leads in that show, too: theyâre two very different people who just seem to like each other.)
Chicago Typewriter: Putting another this-shouldnât-work love story up top. No one could be blamed for tuning out of this show in the first two or three or four episodes. No one could be blamed for finding Han Se-ju an asshole and Jeon Seol a ditz. This is not a show in which the writer cares about going meta with these tropes. Her desire for you to care about her leads lands like a hammer-blow â and itâs not two leads, but three. Itâs the triad that makes the show. This love story is about three people who belong together in a way that supersedes all doubt, all skepticismââand the rules of space-time.
In Chicago Typewriter, love and truth are the same thing. The truth is writeable, or at least, thereâs no writing without the truthââand so love is writeable too. Our charactersââa writer, a ghostwriter, and a readerââhave to find a way to arrive at that truth, to write their own destiny. Itâs true that, at the end, two of the six characters weâve come to know and love are left alone in their time and place with each other. But thatâs not really what the romance is about. Itâs about them making a world possible, both in the pages of Se-juâs books and in historical time, in which Shin Yul/Yu Jin-oh, their beloved third, can make a home with them, and in them, and in art that can never be created in isolation.
If FTLY wink-nodded at us with its nonsense set-ups, Chicago Typewriter wants us to believe in them, intensely and with desperation. It will only work if you believe in it as hard as the writer apparently does, and if you care for it the way the actors did. This show lives in its lead performances, and thereâs some miracle of delicacy and judgement in almost every scene. Yoo Ah-in plays two utter assholes; but the thing he gets right that almost no other asshole male lead does is to play Se-ju and Hwi-young as only a fraction as hard on everyone else as he is on himself. Theyâre not sad men looking for coddling; theyâre brave men waging a war against time, in more ways than one. (The feelings I have for Se-ju and his approach to writing as labour need a separate post.)
Crash Landing On You: Iâll tell you exactly at what point this show convinced me that love is real, and it doesnât even feature the two leads. Itâs in the third episode, when the homeless little boy to whom Se-riâs supplied food and blankets races over to where heâs left his starving baby sister huddled in a makeshift shelter. Itâs a bright day in the middle of a busy market; the women are selling their wares, the popcorn man is delighting the local children with his noisy contraption, and an almost-lullaby comes over the soundtrack: Do you remember the songs we used to sing together? Do you miss the seasons in which we walked together? Can you hear me? Do you miss me?
I donât think the only reason CLOY works is because Ri Jeong-hyeok and Yoon Se-ri are the secondary lovers of the show, but I do think the primary reason it works is because the main leads are the Koreasââthe source of its power is the departing Korean memory of yearning for those on the other side of the border. Thatâs why they canât be together in any conventional way at the end. Thereâs no point in getting Jeong-hyeok and Se-ri together as long as the Koreas are apart.
You may argue that it doesnât feel very audacious to do this in a show which glosses over so much reality to create its picture-perfect scenarios, its dewy love scenes, its often-broad comedy, and its ultimate acceptance (and whitewashing) of the military-intelligence infrastructure of both states.
And youâre right; it isnât radical. But it feels right. It convinces some part of you that no pamphleteering or history writing is designed to reach (and, as an aside, I think its outstanding use of music is a big part of that, and under-discussed as far as Iâve seen). Also, as someone who grew up in a divided part of the world, among the last generation of refugees with memories of homes and friends they never got to see again, as someone with friends I made in better years who I may not get to see again for a long timeââI think itâs harder than many of us can imagine to justify telling this story, without irony and without hedging your bets.
But yes, the boy-girl romance! A big part of why it feels right is because the leads got it right. I was talking to @drivingsideways the other day about the turbocharged star power of Jirisan (also a separate post) and it made me think that if you do have two huge stars co-occupying the screen, then youâve got to let them generate the level of chemistry Hyun Bin and Son Ye-jin have with each other. It doesnât have to be romanticââCho Seung-woo and Bae Doo-na have shown us otherwise, thank you Strangerââ but youâve got to use all that voltage somehow. Itâs very rare that co-leads actually get to do that! (See Jun Ji-hyun and Lee Min-ho in Park Ji-eunâs previous drama, Legend of the Blue Sea, which is inert after its dazzling first episodes, only to spark to life briefly when JJH gets to play off Jo Jeong-sukâs stupidly wonderful cameo a third of the way in.) I love that Hyun Bin stepped back to let Miss Son have the time of her life and that she stepped up, practically bolting our eyes to her in every scene in which she appears.
Itâs weird to say but this is the show of which I feel most protective on this list, which feels unnecessary because itâs also the biggest and most unambiguous hit. I predict it will age awkwardly; I do think (and hope) that it will seem timid as other shows, reacting to it, go farther in exploiting the radical potential of romantic love. But I love the baseline of mutual respect and delicacy CLOY laid down for its lovers from enemy nations, who separate even though they ought never to have been apart and whose bond canât be broken even over the absence of a lifetime.
Hyena: It's honestly amazing to me that we donât talk about this show 24x7. Actually, okay: maybe it doesnât work for a lot of people. If youâve never spent years taking pride in your work in a way thatâs antithetical to what pride means to others in your profession; if your profession isnât dominated by social capital; if youâve never tried to make yourself heard in a room with people whose fathers all went to school with each other, you might not be particularly interested in the conditions of which Jung Geum-ja is a product, and to which she is a reaction.
Then again, maybe you are keenly aware of how these things work, and got put off by the high-key shenanigans that envelop this drama, which, in an early and major misstep, tries to play this dead-serious character for laughs. Itâs awkward and silly, until you get to the point where sheâs clowning for a party full of abject idiots, humiliating herself in order to gain their attention because she needs their businessââand suddenly itâs like hearing nails on a blackboard.
Thereâs so much to Geum-ja, and Hyena is so much her story that it feels weird and unusual to classify it as romance. But it is, and it was meant to be, because Hyena is also the story of the guy whose dad went to school with all the other guys' dadsââand itâs about some core of decency in him thatâs survived the immersive brainwashing to which rich, clever men whoâre meant to rule the world are subject from the minute theyâre born. Geum-ja humiliates Hee-jae on their first encounter in a way thatâs honestly disquieting even though youâre on her side.
But the thing is, youâre in no doubt about why he forgives her. Half the show is about him coming to terms with the fact that sheâs defeated his intellectââand the other half of the show, in an unexpectedly delicate way, is about her coming to terms with the fact that his instincts about her were always right; and that he loves her for something he saw in her that has nothing to do with her manners or her morals or even what she says her name is. Kim Hye-soo and Ju Ji-hoon have so much chemistry you can practically smell the SBS broadcasting regulations burning. You believe them: you believe that they know whatâs good for themselves and for each other, and you believe theyâll survive, and perhaps even that theyâll help others survive. I love them so fucking much (and once again, you should watch this just so that you can read @elderflowergin's fic about the show!)
Into The Ring: This is a proper rom-com, thereâs a storyline and chemistry and half-tropey half tongue-in-cheek cuteness, and yet it feels like the love story works because the show treats it as a side story. Thereâs a Cold Comfort Farm-ish dynamic to Gong-myung showing up when Se-ra needs him, while Se-ra basically goes about being the hero (and the villain?) of her own life. Into The Ring *is* very much about Se-raâs journey. But through her, we see, something in this quiet, decent, damaged man unfolds and starts to blossom. Their generosity to one another is treated so lightlyââwith a kind of generosity in the telling itself. And that elevates Into The Ring in a really unobtrusive and sweet and heart-warming and undemanding way. This is an uproariously funny show, but its comedy in the classical sense comes from the relief and reassurance it delivers you: that people in love can be good for each other.
Her Private Life: I have no clue why this doesnât make drama romance lists more often than the almost-identical-yet-vastly-different Park Min-young vehicle, Whatâs Wrong With Secretary Kim? What's Wrong With Secretary Kim? is a half-hearted attempt at a tropey drama rom-com that coasts on the fact that most people in the world find Park Seo-joon handsome. In Her Private Life the dreamboat is a proper dreamboat. The heroineâs first love is the world sheâs created for herself as a fangirl; and the romance is in how the man who loves her helps, rather than hinders her happiness at being a fan. The enabling goes both ways, as their adventure helps him recover his own relationship to art and solve a painful mystery in his past. I think the criticisms of that part of the show are valid, but also overblownââthe trope that consumes the last couple of episodes is in heavy rotation in k-drama, but itâs there and it works for a reason. I donât think I can believe in Ryan Goldâs artistic talent, but I *can* believe in his deserved and earnest happiness with Deok-mi at the end, and likewise hers with him.
I have a close-to-ironclad squick about workplace romances (even Se-ra and Gong-myung work for me only because they have a pre-existing relationship outside of work) but I didn't think about it more than once or twice in this show. And, okay, I have to admit that them quoting Zizek to each other as pillow talk was one of the deepest and most hilarious pleasures I have ever had watching dramas.
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I cannot deny that this is a very restricted list. Iâm very slow to finish dramas and sometimes I like them too much to want them to go quickly (relevant, here: Secret Love Affair) and want to stop and think about where theyâre taking me (relevant, here: Coffee Prince). But these are the stories that are at the top of my mind when I think about how well dramas actually treat romantic love; and if I come back and update the list, it will be because I learned something about the possibilities of love in a drama from all of them.
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Hi Jane, do you know which is more accurate between Jo and Cho? Is there a reason why they are used interchangeably?
So there are two romanization (i.e. phonetic conversion from a non Latin writing system to a Latin based writing system aka the alphabet) systems that are commonly used for Hangul/Korean. Jo is from the Revised Romanization system, which is the official and most modern romanization system in South Korea. Cho is from the McCuneâReischauer system, which is a bit older (conceived in 1937) and ended official use in the early 2000s. Both systems are still commonly used in South Korea, almost interchangeably, which is why you'll see both variations of Jo/Cho.
Revised Romanization is also a system that was developed by Korean people at the National Academy of Korean Language, whereas McCuneâReischauer is named after the two American scholars who developed it. The revised system is basically a response to the criticism faced by the McCuneâReischauer system and has tried to address those issues. But again, both systems are still widely in use and not commonly differentiated by lay people.
Personally speaking, I'd say that Jo is a closer representation of 쥰, since the ă consonant is usually correlated to the j sound, whereas the ă consonant is commonly correlated with the ch sound. I do generally lean towards using the Revised Romanization system for both simplicity and clarity, but I do know that there's some precedence in academia towards the McCune system. Either way, both Jo and Cho are fine to use as long as there is some differentiation between how the ă and ă consonants are being represented!
who do u think r some actors that have improved over the course of ur drama watching career?
Some stand-out examples --
Joo Ji-hoon: If you never had the pain and privilege of watching Joo Ji-hoon's first acting role in Goong/The Princess Hours, you might not realize the extreme level of improvement he's shown in his subsequent career. You can actually see his acting ability improve over the course of Goong, as he gets more into character and becomes less awkward with the camera, but I really can't put into words the absolute revelation he was in Mawang (The Devil), pulling off a complex and morally ambiguous role with extreme delicacy and none of the stiffness of his previous role. And of course, he only improved from there.
Yoon Eun-hye: A strange case, where I don't think she was a particularly bad actress, but she definitely has one project where it seems like she peaked in her acting abilities and popularity. She was perfectly serviceable as the main lead in Goong (albeit a little cringey, partially due to the script but also a case of slight over-acting on her part), but she completely changed the game with her portrayal of Go Eun-chan in Coffee Prince. No gender-bending drama before or since then has really matched her performance; no actress has ever been as convincing as her in portraying a woman who is pretending to be a man. Knowing that Yoon Eun-hye is not particularly tomboy-ish, I think it was some incredible work that was elevated by the production, and it's been disheartening to see her career be unable to keep up with that performance.
Suzy: I still don't know if I'm as appreciative of Suzy's acting abilities as I should be (according to other viewers), but Suzy has come a long way from her work in Dream High, where her robotic acting ended up being written into the script as a character trait (which was hilarious but also provided her with a convenient out). I think she was especially good in what little I saw of Start Up, almost over-shadowing Nam Joo-hyuk.
Taecyeon: As another Dream High alum, he also had the unfortunate role of having to go head to head with Kim Soo-hyun, but I think he's improved a lot over the years and was truly impressive in his ability to mostly hold his own against Song Joong-ki in Vincenzo, especially as a villain. Was he still a little ham-handed and unstable in his grasp over the performance? Sure, but it's miles and miles away from his freshman role.
Ahn Jae-hyun: He'll never be an award-winning actor, but I think he's slowly developed his own brand of charisma that works for his characters in rom-coms (see: Cinderella and the 4 Knights, Beauty Inside). I do think he still works best in supporting roles or in ensemble casts, and he's much, much better at comedy and lighter genres than anything dramatic. But still, improvement is improvement. (Anything is better than Blood.)
IU: I don't think she was necessarily a poor actress at the beginning of her acting career, but her reputation as a singer overshadowed her initial acting talents in her first projects (Dream High, Lee Soon-shin, Bel-Ami), and even in Producers, where her character was basically a tongue-in-cheek reference to her singer persona. So up until 2017, I felt that IU, despite being a serviceable actress, was just a little unnatural in her roles. However, like everyone else, I was completely swept away by her work in My Ahjussi. Whatever idea there was of IU the singer was non-existent in her performance, which was only further aided by the quality of the production. And I think with her performance as Jang Man-wol in Hotel Del Luna (and also in Persona), IU firmly put to rest any concerns that her work as Lee Ji-an was a one-off fluke and clearly established that not only is she capable of playing a broad spectrum of roles, she's capable of leading a production on her acting abilities and charisma alone.
Shin Se-kyung: She has an unfortunate reputation as being a relatively poor actress compared to her popularity, but I think you can see how much she's improved in character work and diction if you compare her performances in High Kick to her recent work in Run On or Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung (and even The Girl Who Sees Smells). I think Shin Se-kyung is the kind of actress whose performance quality usually reflects the quality of the production she's in, but she has a natural charm that makes up for the inconsistency in her performances.
Lee Yeon-hee: Another actress who McConaughey-ed in her career through one great performance. She had a relatively poor reputation for acting ability because of issues with diction and unnatural facial expressions (see: East of Eden), but her short turn in Gu Family Book was full of pathos and showed that she was capable of grounding a dramatic performance. She followed that with a leading role in Miss Korea, where she held her own against Lee Seon-kyun and Lee Mi-sook.
Lee Chung-ah: She shot to fame in 2004 playing the female lead in the cult teen classic Temptation of Wolves (with a baby Kang Dong-won who immortalized himself in the "umbrella" scene), but her performance was universally panned and she said herself that she had a really difficult time being in character. She's improved since then, pulling off a very winning performance in Flower Boy Ramen Shop and basically destroying hearts as the beautiful career woman taking young innocent women under her wing (see: Because This is My First Life).
Jung Eun-chae: Her acting was very, very green during the first few episodes of The Guest, but I think she rose to the challenge as the drama progressed and fully enveloped her role by the end. She's followed that role with a very different one in King: The Eternal Monarch, playing a power-hungry but emotionally complex prime minister/second female lead, and I think her improvements are drastic when measured against her initial roles and the first few episodes of The Guest.
There are so many more but these are the most obvious examples I could think of! Feel free to add your own if you are so inclined!
we shouldnât have let fanfiction become something everyone reads. like, you shouldnât know what ao3 is unless you were deeply weird in middle school, okay? i donât care if this is gatekeeping. some gates need to be kept, for my own sanity.
#i simultaneously profoundly believe that a) gatekeeping is bad#b) nothing is cringey#c) we made a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE mistake letting fandom become mainstream#fandom was so much better when it was a weird thing that you were vaguely ashamed of#fandom was better when you had to tentatively broach it with other ppl to figure out if they were horrid little weirdos too#those were better days#2012....I miss you so fuckin bad.......#ppl nowadays are just like asking public figures on twitter if they ship slash. how did it all go so horribly wrong#like when everyone was vaguely ashamed of all aspects of fandom i s2g it was way less common to be like#ohh you ship PROBLEMATIC THING?#back in my day....back in my DAY. All shipping was problematic. we were all equal sinners#and it was BETTER (@ace-trainer-risu)
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i feel like elaborating on this. people can only ever really imagine asians (and honestly most poc but since iâm asian this is what i feel comfortable with) as objects - specifically objects of desire. youâre an anime character, or a yaoi bishounen, or a kpop idol, or a label on some food, or a porn category, or, or, or. no matter what, you are something to be consumed. this also coincides really neatly with the perception of asia as a monolith - an asian (be they thai or tibetan or korean) is only that: asian. little thought is paid to culture or nationality or ethnicity (because surprise! asian countries have several ethnicities within their borders!). and again asians are interchangeable. youâve heard the joke that all asians look alike, right? seen how people compare every asian person they see to their bias?
everyone fucking loves asians until itâs time to think about them as individuals, as separate groups, as actual people. the instant we go from fantasy to reality we lose out glitz and people turn their heads and look away. this gets to the point where even realistic portrayals of asian people are warped back into that little box for the purpose of selling to mass market - see peni parker! it... idk it sucks đ please examine the way you think about asians and asia
hi op! i hope you donât mind me adding on, but this also factors into how little south asians are even considered in media. we donât fit the neat little stereotype for what asian should be or look like. we canât be anime characters or k-pop idols, so we donât matter.
i'd also really like to add this to the discussion, but the erasure of southwest asians (aka "middle east" but let's decolonize our language please)... we're seen exclusively as either exotic or villainous, and that's if we're considered at all.
asia is far from the monolith westerners would so love to believe it is, and the diversity of the continent is vastââeven when looking at more specific regions like east asia, as op said.
people just need to accept that their perceptions of asia have been so dangerously skewed by western media and do more to educate themselves before spewing gross racist rhetoric.
âThatâs the thing about depression: A human being can survive almost anything, as long as she sees the end in sight. But depression is so insidious, and it compounds daily, that itâs impossible to ever see the end. The fog is like a cage without a key.â
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âTruthfully, this is the fabric of all my fantasies: love shown not by a kiss or a wild look or a careful hand but by a willingness for research. I donât dream of someone who understands me immediately, who seems to have known me my entire life, who says, I know me too. I want someone keen to learn my own strange organization, amazed at whatâs revealed; someone who asks, and then what, and then what?