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i do think what gets ignored about carrie as a character is that she’s an incredibly easy target to bully; she’s a chubby, sheltered acne ridden teenage girl who wears frumpy grandma clothes and regurgitates the jesus freak shit her violently abusive mother tells her. she has violent thoughts about her classmates and is uncomfortable to be around. she’s far more interesting being a victim that’s somewhat uncomfortable to be in the head of than a tragic waif. she’s not a martyr, she’s a child and a child who’s been victimised her whole life shouldn’t have to be kind and angelic to be recognised as a victim. suffering teenage girls shouldn’t just be presented on screen as toned down glamorous thin ophelias, suffering teenage girls can be fat and poor and think violently. i do think we need to examine why culturally we need teenage girls to be beautiful and kind to valorise their suffering and treat it as bad
the first description of carrie on the first fucking page of the book is "Carrie stood among them stolidly, a frog among swans. She was a chunky girl with pimples on her neck and back and buttocks [...]" like can we be serious
you can whinge about how "fat in the 1970s isn't actually fat" but for all intents and purposes to the narrative and the characters within it she is, functionally, fat. she is treated like she is fat. she is stephen king's version of fat. the distinction between "real fat" and "fake fat" means very little based on the way the book and everyone inside it talks about her
i love it when a new horror movie comes out because some of my mutuals are like wow!!! life changing cinema!! and some of my mutuals are like. what the fuck was that trash tbh!! and the rest of my mutuals are like i long to have a beautiful lesbian romance with the girlbeast
It utterly bewilders me Flanagan's refusal to portray parents and parental figures as abusive, as people who'd be ill-intentioned towards their kids. Most of the time it seems his parental figures are tragically well-meaning gurdians who are just trying their best but failed for some reason or another and are eventually granted forgiviness by their children.
Like, I'm not saying parents like these don't exist, cause when I was a kid and neither me nor my parents were aware I was autistic, they hurt me. Not that they were straight up abusive, but my dad would yell at me when I was overwhelmed and having meltdowns and would believe I'd sabotage social situations on purpose like his father would. He eventually came to realize he shouldn't be so angry and when I started seeing a shrink at High School, he and my mom learned I was autistic and he put in the effort to make things up to me. He researched about it, he listened to podcasts BY autistic people to get how my mind works and how I'd manage to live after becoming an adult, and he'd even try advocating for autistic people at his workplace. AND he's deeply regretful about how he treated me as a child. And I've forgiven him, but just writing about how he'd use to treat me brings me to tears.
So yeah, I know parents can be well-meaning but flawed.
HOWEVER, the way his Carrie adaptation's press release is portraying Margaret White as a well-meaning mother who just wants to protect her naive daughter from the evils of the world is very tonedeaf, cause it's straight up Parents' Rights rethoric that's being paddled to cut off children from anyone and anything that doesn't align with the parents' own values and beliefs.
It gets even more egregious when you read Carrie as a queer narrative, with the whole "being abused into repressing a part of yourself due to your parent seeing it as sinful". Like, isn't Flanagan aware of the pushback against just the mentioning the existence of queer people in classes or books? I mean, he appears to be an ally with how he writes so many gay and bisexual characters in his stories but it seems as if he regards queerphobia as something that ended in the 2010's if we're being generous.

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maybe this is too woke but i really hate the trope of naked older women = scary or vomit inducing or gross or whatever. like you even see it used in horror on occasion like oooooo so scary theres a woman with saggy boobs and wrinkles. There is something to be said for unconsensual veiwing of nudity. sure. it’s uncomfortable and violating for someone to be nude in front of you that you don’t want to see. but rarely that’s seen as the issue and instead the real ‘horror’ or gross out joke is the very idea of a woman who does not have a body that is sexually desirable to men. The very idea of an older woman’s body is treated like it’s something that we should all know is gross, sick and wrong. It’s just something that really bothers me
#its been in horror a lot more recently and its like. ENOUGH
also all the sympathy from viewers for sarah over nikki is so weird like sure, she didn't deserve to die at all ... but imo she was an awful friend. like here's a girl you've known forever, who's told you that she's not into a man two days before she starts acting insane over him, is clearly having a mental breakdown (at the very least), and instead of checking in with her, or making sure she's okay, you try to shoot your shot with the guy she's with??? really??? not to mention her line to bear about 'how it wasn't fair for him to have to deal with her problems'. it pissed me off so much how ian and sarah were nikki's friends too and they never actually spoke to her once the wish kicked in and instead asked bear if she was doing okay or not. what sort of fucking friends are that??? every single one of her friends let her down. obviously what bear did to her was by far the worst but the others were awful to her too.
Obsession posting on main but it really is incredible how well the whole thing is set up just in the first few minutes. The first shot is a POV from a woman's perspective as Bear talks at us and tells us his feelings. It cuts occasionally to the girl thinking this is cute but is clearly a little uncomfortable, only to learn that this person is not Nikki, but just some poor waitress who was on her break and who they presumably kinda roped into this. They don't even listen to her thoughts on the matter, start talking exclusively to each other, and then they just thank her and tell her she can go now and her entire break was apparently used up on their confession practice. Just kind of using women for an imagined scenario and not wondering what she might think about it even in the first five minutes. Incredible stuff.
So You Watched Obsession And Want To Mainline Curry Barker's Short Horror:
wonderful news!! curry barker is one of my favorite (if not my favorite, hands down) short horror directors. as someone who has watched hundreds and hundreds of short horror films on youtube.
here are five of his films with the runtime and a quick summary of each. (sorry if i miss any, these are what i remember off the top of my head!) i've avoided spoilers beyond the basic premise, but every single one of these deals with Absolutely Haunting Thematic Shit:
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THE CHAIR - 25 minutes
when horror connoisseurs hear "curry barker," they usually think of the chair first. barker was approached to make this into a full-length film & pitched obsession instead... GREAT choice, as i don't think the chair would Work with extra runtime.
a man finds an old chair on the side of the road and brings it home to his girlfriend. strange events begin to unfold -- his girlfriend's behavior becomes increasingly erratic, he's losing time, he's unraveling at the seams....
if you enjoyed the fucked-up relationship dynamics in obsession then you will probably have a good time.
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MILK & SERIAL - 62 minutes
barker's other best-known horror film. a twisty found footage thriller about youtube pranksters whose pranks Go Wrong (TM).
i can't say much more than that.... if you watched obsession and thought "pretty good, but pretty predictable. i wonder how curry barker would handle a psychological thriller with more plot twists??"
boy, does this film have an answer!!
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ENIGMA - 20 minutes
this is a psychological thriller about a man dealing with the impending end of the world. explores how other people are also dealing with the end of the world.
i fear i'll give a skewed impression if i say this one is sort of a feel-good film..... but OF the films on this list, it's Certainly the most optimistic. my partner rafi (who really hates depressing horror) watched it with me and concluded, "oh, that was kind of sweet, actually!!"
this one's great if you want a palate cleanser after The Unrelenting Gutwrenching Horror of obsession.
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WARNINGS - 20 minutes
my personal favorite!! criminally underrated!! upsetting in a way that stuck to my skin for days!!
a man starts receiving strange written warnings on halloween. things around him begin to unravel.
similar to the chair in its unsettling surreality, but with a bit more supernatural influence imo. you'll recognize a lot of parallel imagery to obsession, especially with Strange Movement and Nightmare Experiences.
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HEAVY EYES - 5 minutes
the shortest one on this list if you just want to dip your toes in real quick... a pretty easy time investment if you've never watched short horror and aren't sure if you'll like it!
a boy's mom comes home unexpectedly at night.
the only problem?? she's still texting him from the hospital where she works.
this one is both scary and ended up Way More Haunting than i thought a 5-minute short could. even thinking about it makes my stomach kind of hurt.
I need to see it again to pinpoint the details but I really like how the opening scene of obsession (2026) is Bear practicing his confession with a diner waitress... like already you have a woman (who is not Nikki) fulfilling the role for her, saying the response she thinks Bear would like to hear, but the moment this woman gives her own opinion, offering genuine advice to Bear (something along the lines of buying Nikki something she likes, like her favorite candy, flowers, etc)... Bear disregards it... but then ends up using Ian's recommendation from this same conversation (calling Nikki "Freaky Nikki")... like god its all already right there

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One thing about Obsession (2026) that I enjoyed was that it almost asks you to feel empathy for the entity possessing Nikki as well as the real one. Like, obviously the things she's doing are horrific and fucked up, but I think the scene where Bear is asking her to "just be Nikki!" and she eventually just desperatly screams "I can't be Nikki!" does a really good job of showcasing the entity's inner feelings. She's been created with the sole purpose of loving this guy more than anyone else but no matter how perfect it is or how much he claims to love her, its not her that he loves, its Nikki. And any time she stops pretending to be Nikki, he reacts (albeit rightfully) with disgust and horror. She can't be Nikki because Nikki would never love Bear, and so Bear will never love her.
mike flanagan you are going to hell
Something about the bastardization of the story time and time again proves that nobody in power really cares about the people who would resonate with King’s Carrie White. A girl so ugly and repulsive she’s been removed from her own story. The societal need for women and girls to be constantly perceived as attractive is what fuels a fair amount of her torment in the book, but that person isn’t even allowed to exist on the screen. We cannot empathize with her; it isn’t allowed. It’s fascinating to me.
i feel like people are overlooking the moment at the beginning of obsession where nikki straight up asks "do you like me?" and once bear lies and says no she replies "ok, good." for starters, it was a chilling moment to me because this is such a classic experience of having a close guy friend, only to realize that he wants more from you. girls aren't dumb! nikki isn't dumb! of course she knows that bear is into her, she has eyes! she can see his stuttering and sheepishness and she's just dreading the moment she has to turn him down, to tell him that he's like a brother to her. just before she had told him that she doesn't feel real love in her life, and i don't think it would be a leap to attribute a small part of that feeling to her fear that her friendship with bear isn't as simple as she wants it to be.
it's also a chilling question from nikki because once she walks away bear knows that she doesn't feel the same way about him, and he makes the wish anyway. he is incapable or unwilling to take a hint and see that she doesn't feel the same way. and that question is the last thing she says to him before he ruins her life forever. it's unfair.
I genuinely appreciate how obsession doesn't try to frame bear as morally grey but just fully leans into how deplorable he is. a lesser movie would have tried to give him redeeming moments along the way but no, at every single crossroads bear makes the wrong choice. when the customer service rep asks him if he wants to cancel his wish, he says no, and asks to alter it. when nikki, the real one, begs him to kill her, he asks her "if it would be so bad to love him", and right at the end, backs out of killing himself and tries to throw the pills up. he is the villain, not another victim, not a confused, cowardly boy, the villain.

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nikki begging bear to kill her and all he does is ask whats so bad about being with him. one of the most nauseating scenes ive ever witnessed
Just saw the interview where Curry Barker explained that it's totally possible to get a normal wish from the One Wish Willow, and I love the way they did that so much. The reason Obsession happened isn't because it's trying to twist Bear's desires into something evil. It's not even because he phrased his want wrong. Obsession happened because Bear got his hands on a magic item that could do anything in existence, and chose to force someone to fall in love with him, which is an inherently evil thing to do.