So, I happened to see a post by Amanda Gelender on Substack--a platform that hosts Nazis, by the way. It is this:
All Jews must kill Zionism within Judaism
Gelender starts off boldly with Zionism-Nazism comparisons--which are ipso facto false, as the critical component of Nazism was Judenhass, but that's not the point. Or really, Judaism-Nazism comparisons, since she uses the magein David.
Here is the first sentence:
Now, I'm going to talk about Michael Lerner now. He was a leftist Jew, and the founder of Tikkun magazine. In a wonderful and prescient book called The Socialism of Fools, about leftist antisemitism, he writes that "[o]nly those who have a strong loving connection to the Jewish people or to Judaism have a right to use their Jewishness as a justification for a double standard". By that criterion, my aunt--who as a kid made up awful songs about how she loves Shabbos, who once got me The New Joys of Yiddish for my birthday, who participated in Shabbat diners and Pesach seders and has a ketubah hanging on her wall--almost certainly has that right.
I am going to be honest with you here, I am not entirely confident that Gelender is not the creation of Ali from Iran.
She says the Gazan death toll is "likely in the hundreds of thousands", linking to an Al Jazeera report on the Lancet Study. It is worth noting that the Al Jazeera headline says it could (not likely) "exceed 186,000".
The more mathematically inclined reader may note that it is somewhat disingenuous to say "hundreds of thousands" and then have the one number shown be 186,000.
Amanda, where was Moses going? Oswiecim? The promised graveyard?
Well, someone's reducing us to our oppression
Amanda, when do you think the Balfour Declaration was? Der Judenstaat? Rome and Jerusalem?
Okay. Fine. Don't. Quit being Jewish, Amanda. No one wants you in the tribe, except for antisemites trying to cover it up.
Unfortunately, I can no longer talk about the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting this year. Amanda Gelender said so, since it involves discussion of antisemitism.
There is a difference between "Ben-Gvir is a fascist" or "Benjamin Netanyahu and other high up Israeli officials should stand trial at the Hague" -- both sentences I agree with, by the way -- and "Therefore the state of Israel should be destroyed". There is a difference between "There is a worrying degree of support for figures like Benjamin Netanyahu or even Itamar Ben-Gvir in mainstream American Jewish institutions" and "Therefore all synagogues anywhere are fair game".
Amanda. Amanda, why are you reducing modern-day Judaism to that?
Max Naumann, the founder of the Association of German National Jews, explaining why Hitler is good actually:
Who blessed it, Amanda? The Devil? (Who isn't as much of a thing in Judaism, but IMO Amanda's long since disqualified herself from am yisrael -- she'd probably object to it anyway).
She goes on to say that Arab and Muslim students face "actual systemic targeting, attacks, and abuse". The emphasis is hers.
According to the PCBS, there have been "[o]ver 136,000 martyrs in Palestine since 1948" (as of June 20, 2024). The text reveals that this is actually "the Palestinian and Arab communities...both inside and outside Palestine".
Regardless, also according to the report, there are approximately 14.6 million Palestinians globally. Assuming all the dead would have been alive today if not for Israel, we are left with about 0.93 percent of Palestinians killed by Israel.
And for indigenous peoples in the US?
Now, I don't mean to minimize Palestinian suffering, but these seem to be on totally different scales.
So, just so we're clear, does that include people in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, or...? (The UN says yes, for what it's worth.) Descendants of Jews who'd lived there for centuries? Refugees expelled from their country?
Amanda, from what I've heard, African-American slavery in North America began in maybe 1565 at the earliest (in what's now St. Augustine, Florida). While I could well be wrong, I'm going to want either a source pushing African slavery (or similar evidence of whatever she wants to call genocide now) in North America back to 1493, OR an explanation of this retroactive genocide.
Actually, on doing some further research, it seems that non-Viking Europeans didn't reach the mainland of the Americas until 1502, and that was Honduras, which I don't think is generally included in Turtle Island.
To be fair, it's a pretty small number, considering that JVP isn't Jewish
Hey Amanda, um, what's your plan if it's not a "co-existent future on the land for both Palestinians and Israelis/Jews"? What's your plan for those Jews? Amanda? Amanda, I realize that you might not know this, since you're not really one, but Jews aren't fish. We can't breathe underwater.
Where the fuck are the Jews supposed to go, Amanda? Poland? Fucking Poland? Like, come on. And what about "removing" isn't...dear God, I can't even. Amanda, why is your only concern that Jews might "do harm where they go" rather than "you are creating millions of Jewish refugees and last time that happened and there wasn't an Israel it ended with the Shoah, which you're still supposed to say is bad right now."
Also "fellow Jews" Amanda I'd rather convert to Sikhism than need to be a "fellow Jew" of yours.
(Okay, I won't, both because Amanda's disqualified herself loooong ago, and because my ancestors didn't die so I could convert. Even to Sikhism, which seems really cool.)
Prolific in what? Killing children? Killing Palestinians, predominantly Bedouin? Killing a Gazan? Dead five year olds? Dead asylum seekers? The youngest person who died on October 7 was a Palestinian, and, inasmuch as a 14-hour-old baby could be, Muslim. Did these people deserve to die? Is this what you want? Is this prolific? Killing Holocaust and Farhud survivors? They tortured Osama Abu Assa before they killed him for having a moral backbone and not letting them die -- something you lack! Awad Darawshe was killed treating the wounded, and he was Palestinian, and he was a decent human being!
Tell me Kfir deserved to die, Amanda. Say it to me. Say it to me. Say Kfir deserved to die.
Tell me Mila Cohen deserved it, Amanda. Tell me that Mila's death was miraculous. That it was anti-colonial.
the sacred Below being crushed by the Above.
What happens if you win, Amanda? What happens if this whole apparatus, with its whole identity based on being the oppressed, what happens if they stop being oppressed?
What's the plan for the day after Palestine is free? Or do you not have one? Do you intend for it to be perpetually unfree? Do you want anarchy? Oppression, turning on each other? Amanda, enough of the things you don't want -- what would your ideal liberation look like, and how do you plan to make that feasible? States don't build themselves, not even when they get a head start by being able to steal the framework of a state that "mysteriously" got emptied of all its Jews. (The dead bodies came with the land, I'm sure.)
Uh, yeah, I should very much hope so. Listen, I don't like internal Jewish divisions, but we don't have the luxury of letting people who seek our deaths run amok. We just don't. Amanda advocates for our death, she loses status as a Jew. We're small and vulnerable and we can't exclude too many people but we also can't welcome in people like Amanda, who (if they even are born Jewish) demand we twist ourselves to fit impossible and ever-changing standards.
Now, with the standard disclaimer that I am not a lawyer, according to Human Rights Watch, all Israelis not actively in the military are civilians:
Methinks Amanda does not hold international law as highly as she pretends.
Now, according to Sami Hadawi, in the Mandate, 5.67 percent of the land was Jewish owned, and 46 percent "State Domain", i.e., government property. Among the would-be Jewish state boundaries as laid out by the Partition Plan, over three-quarters was either state-owned land (that could thus be legitimately transferred to another state) or Jewish-owned land.
To give Amanda credit, she is not necessarily a hypocrite. The Mediterranean has not committed genocide against Jews.
Amanda I really think you'd do everyone a favor if you converted to. Like. Catholicism.
Amanda discusses why she doesn't like the framing of "Israel makes Jews unsafe/increases antisemitism" (her words). Now, I actually agree with her on this--antisemitism causes antisemitism, Jews cannot prevent it while remaining Jews (and even then we often can't), to pass the responsibility to Israel is grotesque victim-blaming that simultaneously denies the perpetrators any agency and makes them into merely puppets and perpetuates the myth that antisemitism is a problem that can be solved by what Jews do.
Let's see why Amanda objects! I'm worried about running up against limits of images, so this is as a list.
(1) weâre the oppressors in the context of Israel, not the victims
No, you're not. Again, you're disqualified.
 (2) this framing abdicates Jewish responsibility because âIsraelâ is not an amorphous self-animating thing that merely hovers over us, it is a colony that we as Jews actively build and sustain daily through concerted generational effort;Â
Abdicates? This victim-blaming thing that assumes that antisemites have just been duped by The Evil Jews abdicates Jewish responsibility? There is no Jewish responsibility when it comes to antisemitism! End of sentence!
(3) thatâs not âantisemitismâ itâs a reaction to Jewish-led genocide which all our institutions support;Â
What about when someone tells me that they are an antisemite and proud of it! (Spaceshipspeaking999 finally got suspended, I'm excited to report) Is that not antisemitism?
(4) youâre conceding to the propaganda that there is a ârise in antisemitismâ when Jews currently do not face systemic oppression for being Jewish and the âantisemitic incidentsâ data is tracked such that every anti-zionist protest sign is clocked as a separate âantisemitic incidentâ by the ADL so;
Damn, Jews used to regularly get stabbed in the streets of Britain?
 (5) enough with the Jewish victimhood, âJewish safetyâ and âantisemitismâ talk, itâs just a distraction from Jewish-perpetrated genocide of Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims.
Amanda, I could probably walk to the Tree of Life synagogue building if I wanted to. I don't, because it's almost 10 PM, but I could. Amanda, explain to me how Jerry Rabinowitz, who was by all accounts a wonderful, kind, human being, should not be talked about, how talking about the fact that he was senselessly killed is a distraction from Jewish-perpetrated genocide. Also, wait, hang on, all three? I don't understand -- I think that Israel killed a fair number of the Christians in Gaza as well.
So why doesn't she say this? Because Christians are too close to the "Above" that crushes her "sacred Below", and thus deserve to die more?
Completely genuinely, Amanda's lack of concern for Jews is chilling. Like, I think BDS has more concern, or at least pretends.
I can't. I don't know what to say to this, except that Amanda's moral posturing combined with the way she says "If Jews had a speck of morality" and claims to be Jewish means either that she claims she doesn't have a speck of morality, or is acknowledging she's not Jewish. If the former, of course, I am uninterested in listening to her; if the latter, as in my opinion is correct, I can judge her without considering her purported Judaism, at which point what she says is clearly and obviously grotesquely anti-Jewish.
Anyone who cites Amanda should be ashamed.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA ISLAM as an anticolonial religion? ISLAM as the oppressed and sanctified Below? ISLAM, with its almost two billion people?
Look, I have nothing against Islam in particular. I think it's a fine religion, as far as they go. But the fact is, it's not a "Below". Because Amanda sanctifies the "Below", she has to make Islam into that, lest she support the Above and its awfulness.
I have, apparently, reached the limit of thirty images per post, so this shall be excerpts henceforth. Emphasis is all my own unless noted.
A reckoning is coming for those responsible - including many Jews - not because of our Jewishness, but because of our unwavering, lockstep investment in Israel and Nazi-Zionism that as a community we still refuse to loosen our grip on. What is there to say? Itâs a holocaust of our own making. When consequences inevitably return to Jewish institutions and individuals because we proliferated this violence and refuse to release our commitment to supporting genocide, it is not âantisemitismâ - it is the chickens coming home to roost. People will rightfully be hunting down the people and formations who facilitated these crimes for the rest of their lives, as Nazis are still sought out into old age, no matter how seemingly small their role in facilitating the slaughter. And this genocide is not only generational but ongoing; it is settler-colonial in nature and therefore not comparable to the Nazi holocaust.
I'm sorry, is Amanda saying this 'genocide', which has killed a few hundred thousand people at most out of millions across seventy-eight years, where the genocided people have courts of their religion in the state allegedly genociding them and are still able to hold on to the holiest site in the religion of the genociders, are worse than the Nazis?
Do you think there were Jews who could accuse the Nazis of whatever the equivalent of blood libel for Germans -- that's false, anyway -- is and walk free? Do you think Jews would have ever represented Germany at Eurovision, singing in Yiddish? Do you think a Jew, serving on the Supreme Court, would have been able to find the president of Nazi Germany guilty of rape? Were there Jewish beauty pageant winners, representatives in Parliament, deputy mayors of the largest city in the country, journalists, ambassadors, recipients of the Nazi version of the Israel Prize, acting presidents (albeit briefly), commanders of elite brigades and coordinators of COGAT (which manages civilian policy in the West Bank)? Were there any representatives of Nazi Germany at the Olympics whose mother wasn't Jewish and whose father was not only Jewish, but given the name -- I don't know, for Amanda 'Zionist' would probably be equivalent to 'Nazi' (it's pronounced differently)? Was the longest-serving parliament member in Nazi Germany, ever, Jewish? Jewish leaders of political parties, including Nazi ones? Did leaders of explicitly Jewish political parties ever join the government coalition? Did kippa-and-tzitzit wearing Jews ever serve? Were there lists of Jewish Parliament members?
Judaism's crimes will ring out for eternity.
Mein Kampf or Amanda Gelender challenge?
This is the most shameful generation of Jews to ever exist.Â
Well, yes, seeing as you're in it...
Like, at least Naumann acknowledged that the Nazis were bad for Jews! He just didn't care!
If Judaism has to die for Palestine to live, kill it.
Those are the final words.
I just...I can't. I genuinely can't. I think I had more thoughts and analysis of this originally, I've been working on this for a while, but they're gone now.
I don't want to disqualify people from am Yisrael. But Amanda qualifies.
She is no Jew. She is merely a Jew-hater.
I do not like the insult kapo. Kapos were acting under extreme duress, in difficult circumstances. To judge them for their actions, to turn the actions of these people into an insult, is to demean them. I am not saying that all kapos were good, but the circumstances from which they arose were particular ones. As such, I fear that the Jewish people do not have words to describe Amanda and those like her.
