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just little things abt this ep and just about Moon character all together-
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Hearing Moon finally admit hes terrified about something is so relieving bro. Even if its to himself
The main emotions he'll ever admit to is anger, sadness, and confusion. Even then it takes a minute for him to admit it. He seems to also find comfort in animals when hes crying. He reminds me of a sheep in wolves clothing everytime I watch an episode that revolves around him.
3:28 , I think the main reason of this was because pets are known to sense when someones feeling down or anything of the sorts. One wrong move that even hints at sadness, animals know. Especially cats. So he tries to avoid them and not have pets draw attention to him.
Also, 12:39 , reminds me of when he said "I try to be whatever anybody needs me to be" in "Sun RUNS AWAY...?!?!". Its honestly kinda nice to see that starting to show a lot more in this episode. Moon can deny it all he wants but at the end of the day he is some sort of people pleaser when it comes to family and friends. He cares so deeply and feels so much it destroys him internally.
13:35 , Moon clearly didn't care if he lived or died before all of this. He accepted death way before like hes standing on this line waiting to be blown one way or the other. Now that he has so much to lose, so much to leave behind, he wants to live. He has purpose in life now. He's got a son, a pet, brothers, a sister, four friends that he'd die for, its not worth putting his life on the line for some dumb decisions anymore. One wrong move and he loses everything he worked so hard to earn.
11:59 - 16:56 , This whole conversation, Moon held back tears. He hadn't started crying before because the door was wide open, anyone could see him and coddle him but he doesn't wish to be coddled. Maybe because he felt forced to "grow up", to not be the one coddled but to be the one coddling others. He was already labeled as the smart one, the "older" one, the one that fixes the problems. Then the MOMENT Carmine walked out, he broke down Infront of the animals. The animals he said he didn't like. They provided him a sort of comfort now that he's let out his feelings.
9:06 - 10:01 , THIS shows how much Moon has grown. Back then, if this had happened, there's a 79% chance that Moon would do it. Give someone else the problem. Now? He refuses to do so because he doesn't want someone to lose their memories aswell, doesn't want someone to not make their own new memories, not do the same thing he did to Sun. Never again. He doesn't wish for anyone to be in his shoes and it shows a lot more each episode.
He loves so much and feels so much it always comes out way too little to the point others might think its mixed signals. He bottles so much up it comes off as an attack. He forgets to the point it becomes a weapon and a death trap.
I love Moon so much its not even funny anymore guys.
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Okay, this may or may not get me shot on sight, but I wanna say this since today's episode of TSAMS involved my boy Nexus...
I don't blame the family or Sun for treating Nexus/New Moon like he was just Moon back from the dead.
Look, if I basically died and came back, but with no memory of who I was, I wouldn't expect my family to treat me differently. I expect them to act like I'm still me. They just need to teach me to be me again. I don't blame Sun for acting like Nexus was Moon cause in a way he was.
Now, this is an oddly specific situation, so I don't expect everyone to have the same reaction as me or do the same thing as me, but that's just what I expect my family to do.
I hope this makes sense cause I'm like half-asleep right now, and it's only 4:12 pm.
I HEAVILY disagree. Nexus was never Moon. That's what the show is trying to tell you— you're inherently making the same mistake Sun did. He wasn't a reincarnation, he wasn't the same person with amnesia. He was a new person forced into a set identity and role from the very moment he opened his eyes. That's what the family failed to realize, and, in a way, why Nexus turned out the way he did. He was deprived of an idea of self from the start. Doomed by the narrative, even.
I do blame Sun for what he said and did. As a sibling, it's his job to help and adjust to his brother's condition. As a sibling myself, if my little sister "forgot" who she was, and was "reset" to the very start, I'd let her grow into the person she was meant to be—even if it isn't the same person I knew before. Because sometimes, letting go is the best act of love you can give someone.
An older sibling's job is to protect and preserve the younger's joy. You can literally see in the episode how Sun crushes NM's excitement over origami because "It just didn't feel right". That's selfish. That's wrong. You're supposed to blame him for that. Anything else is just not what the show is trying to tell you.
Nexus isn't completely innocent—but to ignore the factors as to why he made those choices is to ignore the entire character himself.
I don't see how you can't blame Sun. He says himself that he's at fault, and maybe he blames himself more than he should, but he is still at fault.
Here's a list as to how you literally cannot say Sun isn't to blame:
Sun forced Nexus into that role from the start, simply because he wanted the old Moon.
Sun constantly compared Nexus to someone he wasn't, going as far as to judge his hobbies because "Moon wouldn't do that".
Sun didn't push help onto Nexus when another Moon from a different dimension LITERALLY TOLD HIM TO. If he had done that, Nexus may not have become Nexus.
Sun left Nexus to rot in a dingy dungeon because he didn't act the way he wanted.
Sun's inability to act is potentially why Nexus had that faceoff with Puppet, and got sent into space where Dark Sun picked him up.
Sun's (+ the rest of the family's) inability to act is also potentially what led to Dark Sun—as he confessed himself—leading Nexus down a worse path.
Sun, ultimately, was the one who killed Nexus. <- This one was almost entirely Ruin's fault, but still. The blood is on his hands nonetheless. You can't tell me Sun threw a fireball at the guy and expected nothing to happen.
Every twist and turn in Nexus' life story you can find a way in which Sun fucked up.
I feel like HALF of these are stuff that sun couldn't control. Puppet only went there because of Monty trying to save Terra. Sun had the option of one: locking Nexus up in a jail cell or two: literally let Puppet kill him. You can see which ones are objectively better, right? And if Sun got involved, it wouldn't really do anything considering the fact that a lot of people tend to downplay him. And during this time, sun could barely even use his powers and he wasn't as smart as Monty, solar, or nexus. So he was basically powerless in the situation and couldn't do anything as much as he wanted to.
I would like to also say that, yes, sun is at fault, but he's not the one to blame. There were a LOT of things that he could have done to make the situation better for him and nexus. But why blame sun, when dark sun was the one who orchestrated all of this? Why blame sun, when ruin had a part in this? Why blame sun, when eclipse was the one who put them all through this in the first place? Sun was put in a pretty rare situation and didn't know what to do. Why should we blame him for that?
(P.s. I could be misremembering something so I apologize for that)
Okay, so the problem here is that everyone seems to think I'm only blaming Sun. I'm not only blaming Sun. There's an equally long list for each character as to how they're to blame.
This isn't just about the situation after Solar's death— you can literally see, in yesterday's episode, that even in day-to-day life BEFORE THAT TOUGH SITUATION Sun was unintentionally mistreating Nexus. He should have known better. He said this himself.
God, you Sun fans really don't see past your own rose-tinted glasses on this guy, huh? He's not a good person. That doesn't mean he's a bad one, but he's not the wonderful sweetheart brother you portray him as.
Never say, sun is a good person. He is an asshole.
The whole thing how he handled Dazzle father? Shitty
The whole thing with Rose bell? Terrible
He fucked all his relationship better than anyone
But compared to everyone in the family (except terra), he is the best.
And the best brother too. Like, no one can do better than him if they were put into his situation
And have you put the rose tinted glasses too??? On Nexus ?? Every time Sun just breathes wrong about Old Moon, like how he unintended remembered wrong sometimes, Nexus immediately lashed out.
He also constantly villainize Old Moon too, making jokes about Old Moon despite knowing how uncomfortable Sun was at this topic
Even the time Sun killed himself just to kill Eclipse and make Nexus can be happy after, Nexus managed to make it on himself like how dare Sun not trust him or anything while DUDE LITERALLY KILLED HIMSELF FOR NEXUS
If you say Sun is not a great brother towards Nexus and constantly unintentionally mistreated him then you should also admit Nexus is not a good sibling.
He constantly decides things for the family and people can't breathe loudly or dare to do anything when he gets angry.
The literally reason why puppet and Monty and foxy goes straight to kill mode because they see how dangerous Nexus can be when he out of control because no one can stop him
Nexus make clear about it
Nexus is the best brother for Sun as Sun is the best brother for Nexus. The only person who can blame Sun for everything is Nexus and just because Nexus has so much complicated feelings towards Sun
To be honest, I feel like your Nexus fans (I'm not saying all) are too much baby him and couldn't admit that he did all this himself
Like you guys couldn't love him without blaming him for how he turned out for the others
I NEVER SAID NEXUS WAS GOOD SIBLING EITHER??? HE WAS HORRIBLE?? HE'S NOT A GOOD PERSON??
MY GOD. I WAS TALKING ABOUT SUN. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT YOURE GONNA DRIVE ME NUTS!!!
The fact you said "you Nexus fans" tells me you went into this conversation seeing me as less because I like a different character than you. This conversation is over. You clearly cannot respect me, or the original argument, so this is done.
No, Sun is not a good brother. That's it. That's the reality. Sorry you're unable to see that????? It's literally what the show is telling you.
Dude you literally bring Sun fans in first, telling them only see him in good and cute light
I treated all the arguments with respect and explain things towards you but you couldn't receive the same manners
Our arguments don't go anywhere because in your mind Sun is always the bad person and he is at fault how Nexus turned out this way while AGAIN, you put Sun in too much high ground
Dude, you are the one who keeps twisting things up.
My point, clearly, because it seems like you couldn't understand what I said is that and I'm tired of you keeping screaming
Sun is not blamed for how Nexus turned out
Yes, he can feel guilty because he should have treated or did anything to change the outcome, but he is not wrong in the whole Nexus and Sun relationship
Even Nexus said that himself, and Sun is the best brother he could ask for
Sun never responsible for Nexus action, Nexus is
And the only two or three persons who were blamed on this is Dark Sun, Ruin , and Eclipse
No, saying he mistreated Nexus is too much. It is like saying Nexus couldn't have the capability to defend himself or letting Sun walk all over him while reality is opposite
Like saying because you go out of the door by your left leg and it makes you fail in your exam
The fault of Sun was him killing Nexus
And that's it
He is not the fault of how Nexus turned out and if you still think Sun is a horrible brother then I just take a guess you never have siblings ever. Or Asian siblings
Because all the banter, shitty talk is how siblings treat each other
I would never blame my brother for how I turning out just because that shithead scammed all my money or so many of events when I just
Nexus digs his own grave and he is just getting worse and worse and he has no one to blame but himself and also Dark Sun
The show literally said that multiple times
Though light note: I kinda confused because you clearly state Sun just tried better and Sun take the great factor in fuck over Nexus life and now you just say Sun only has blame for some capacity?
It seems like you only go for the insults so I will leave here. Because like your picture says, and forgive me for my vulgar words, there's no point in talking with brain-dead people
Like screaming into the toilet, the one getting dirty is myself
So now you lack the reading situation too?? I thought you only had poor reading comprehension and the ability to act like victims???
Please try to read your reblogged and picture again.
But i understand you're struggling so it's okay.
Yes of course I'm immature, because if not I have already blocked you instead of keep responding patiently towards you while you clearly just not wanting to listen
Okay, this may or may not get me shot on sight, but I wanna say this since today's episode of TSAMS involved my boy Nexus...
I don't blame the family or Sun for treating Nexus/New Moon like he was just Moon back from the dead.
Look, if I basically died and came back, but with no memory of who I was, I wouldn't expect my family to treat me differently. I expect them to act like I'm still me. They just need to teach me to be me again. I don't blame Sun for acting like Nexus was Moon cause in a way he was.
Now, this is an oddly specific situation, so I don't expect everyone to have the same reaction as me or do the same thing as me, but that's just what I expect my family to do.
I hope this makes sense cause I'm like half-asleep right now, and it's only 4:12 pm.
I HEAVILY disagree. Nexus was never Moon. That's what the show is trying to tell you— you're inherently making the same mistake Sun did. He wasn't a reincarnation, he wasn't the same person with amnesia. He was a new person forced into a set identity and role from the very moment he opened his eyes. That's what the family failed to realize, and, in a way, why Nexus turned out the way he did. He was deprived of an idea of self from the start. Doomed by the narrative, even.
I do blame Sun for what he said and did. As a sibling, it's his job to help and adjust to his brother's condition. As a sibling myself, if my little sister "forgot" who she was, and was "reset" to the very start, I'd let her grow into the person she was meant to be—even if it isn't the same person I knew before. Because sometimes, letting go is the best act of love you can give someone.
An older sibling's job is to protect and preserve the younger's joy. You can literally see in the episode how Sun crushes NM's excitement over origami because "It just didn't feel right". That's selfish. That's wrong. You're supposed to blame him for that. Anything else is just not what the show is trying to tell you.
Nexus isn't completely innocent—but to ignore the factors as to why he made those choices is to ignore the entire character himself.
I don't see how you can't blame Sun. He says himself that he's at fault, and maybe he blames himself more than he should, but he is still at fault.
Here's a list as to how you literally cannot say Sun isn't to blame:
Sun forced Nexus into that role from the start, simply because he wanted the old Moon.
Sun constantly compared Nexus to someone he wasn't, going as far as to judge his hobbies because "Moon wouldn't do that".
Sun didn't push help onto Nexus when another Moon from a different dimension LITERALLY TOLD HIM TO. If he had done that, Nexus may not have become Nexus.
Sun left Nexus to rot in a dingy dungeon because he didn't act the way he wanted.
Sun's inability to act is potentially why Nexus had that faceoff with Puppet, and got sent into space where Dark Sun picked him up.
Sun's (+ the rest of the family's) inability to act is also potentially what led to Dark Sun—as he confessed himself—leading Nexus down a worse path.
Sun, ultimately, was the one who killed Nexus. <- This one was almost entirely Ruin's fault, but still. The blood is on his hands nonetheless. You can't tell me Sun threw a fireball at the guy and expected nothing to happen.
Every twist and turn in Nexus' life story you can find a way in which Sun fucked up.
I feel like HALF of these are stuff that sun couldn't control. Puppet only went there because of Monty trying to save Terra. Sun had the option of one: locking Nexus up in a jail cell or two: literally let Puppet kill him. You can see which ones are objectively better, right? And if Sun got involved, it wouldn't really do anything considering the fact that a lot of people tend to downplay him. And during this time, sun could barely even use his powers and he wasn't as smart as Monty, solar, or nexus. So he was basically powerless in the situation and couldn't do anything as much as he wanted to.
I would like to also say that, yes, sun is at fault, but he's not the one to blame. There were a LOT of things that he could have done to make the situation better for him and nexus. But why blame sun, when dark sun was the one who orchestrated all of this? Why blame sun, when ruin had a part in this? Why blame sun, when eclipse was the one who put them all through this in the first place? Sun was put in a pretty rare situation and didn't know what to do. Why should we blame him for that?
(P.s. I could be misremembering something so I apologize for that)
Okay, so the problem here is that everyone seems to think I'm only blaming Sun. I'm not only blaming Sun. There's an equally long list for each character as to how they're to blame.
This isn't just about the situation after Solar's death— you can literally see, in yesterday's episode, that even in day-to-day life BEFORE THAT TOUGH SITUATION Sun was unintentionally mistreating Nexus. He should have known better. He said this himself.
God, you Sun fans really don't see past your own rose-tinted glasses on this guy, huh? He's not a good person. That doesn't mean he's a bad one, but he's not the wonderful sweetheart brother you portray him as.
Never say, sun is a good person. He is an asshole.
The whole thing how he handled Dazzle father? Shitty
The whole thing with Rose bell? Terrible
He fucked all his relationship better than anyone
But compared to everyone in the family (except terra), he is the best.
And the best brother too. Like, no one can do better than him if they were put into his situation
And have you put the rose tinted glasses too??? On Nexus ?? Every time Sun just breathes wrong about Old Moon, like how he unintended remembered wrong sometimes, Nexus immediately lashed out.
He also constantly villainize Old Moon too, making jokes about Old Moon despite knowing how uncomfortable Sun was at this topic
Even the time Sun killed himself just to kill Eclipse and make Nexus can be happy after, Nexus managed to make it on himself like how dare Sun not trust him or anything while DUDE LITERALLY KILLED HIMSELF FOR NEXUS
If you say Sun is not a great brother towards Nexus and constantly unintentionally mistreated him then you should also admit Nexus is not a good sibling.
He constantly decides things for the family and people can't breathe loudly or dare to do anything when he gets angry.
The literally reason why puppet and Monty and foxy goes straight to kill mode because they see how dangerous Nexus can be when he out of control because no one can stop him
Nexus make clear about it
Nexus is the best brother for Sun as Sun is the best brother for Nexus. The only person who can blame Sun for everything is Nexus and just because Nexus has so much complicated feelings towards Sun
To be honest, I feel like your Nexus fans (I'm not saying all) are too much baby him and couldn't admit that he did all this himself
Like you guys couldn't love him without blaming him for how he turned out for the others
I NEVER SAID NEXUS WAS GOOD SIBLING EITHER??? HE WAS HORRIBLE?? HE'S NOT A GOOD PERSON??
MY GOD. I WAS TALKING ABOUT SUN. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT YOURE GONNA DRIVE ME NUTS!!!
The fact you said "you Nexus fans" tells me you went into this conversation seeing me as less because I like a different character than you. This conversation is over. You clearly cannot respect me, or the original argument, so this is done.
No, Sun is not a good brother. That's it. That's the reality. Sorry you're unable to see that????? It's literally what the show is telling you.
Dude you literally bring Sun fans in first, telling them only see him in good and cute light
I treated all the arguments with respect and explain things towards you but you couldn't receive the same manners
Our arguments don't go anywhere because in your mind Sun is always the bad person and he is at fault how Nexus turned out this way while AGAIN, you put Sun in too much high ground
Dude, you are the one who keeps twisting things up.
My point, clearly, because it seems like you couldn't understand what I said is that and I'm tired of you keeping screaming
Sun is not blamed for how Nexus turned out
Yes, he can feel guilty because he should have treated or did anything to change the outcome, but he is not wrong in the whole Nexus and Sun relationship
Even Nexus said that himself, and Sun is the best brother he could ask for
Sun never responsible for Nexus action, Nexus is
And the only two or three persons who were blamed on this is Dark Sun, Ruin , and Eclipse
No, saying he mistreated Nexus is too much. It is like saying Nexus couldn't have the capability to defend himself or letting Sun walk all over him while reality is opposite
Like saying because you go out of the door by your left leg and it makes you fail in your exam
The fault of Sun was him killing Nexus
And that's it
He is not the fault of how Nexus turned out and if you still think Sun is a horrible brother then I just take a guess you never have siblings ever. Or Asian siblings
Because all the banter, shitty talk is how siblings treat each other
I would never blame my brother for how I turning out just because that shithead scammed all my money or so many of events when I just
Nexus digs his own grave and he is just getting worse and worse and he has no one to blame but himself and also Dark Sun
The show literally said that multiple times
Though light note: I kinda confused because you clearly state Sun just tried better and Sun take the great factor in fuck over Nexus life and now you just say Sun only has blame for some capacity?
It seems like you only go for the insults so I will leave here. Because like your picture says, and forgive me for my vulgar words, there's no point in talking with brain-dead people
Like screaming into the toilet, the one getting dirty is myself
So now you lack the reading situation too?? I thought you only had poor reading comprehension and the ability to act like victims???
Please try to read your reblogged and picture again.
But i understand you're struggling so it's okay.
Yes of course I'm immature, because if not I have already blocked you instead of keep responding patiently towards you while you clearly just not wanting to listen
Okay, this may or may not get me shot on sight, but I wanna say this since today's episode of TSAMS involved my boy Nexus...
I don't blame the family or Sun for treating Nexus/New Moon like he was just Moon back from the dead.
Look, if I basically died and came back, but with no memory of who I was, I wouldn't expect my family to treat me differently. I expect them to act like I'm still me. They just need to teach me to be me again. I don't blame Sun for acting like Nexus was Moon cause in a way he was.
Now, this is an oddly specific situation, so I don't expect everyone to have the same reaction as me or do the same thing as me, but that's just what I expect my family to do.
I hope this makes sense cause I'm like half-asleep right now, and it's only 4:12 pm.
I HEAVILY disagree. Nexus was never Moon. That's what the show is trying to tell you— you're inherently making the same mistake Sun did. He wasn't a reincarnation, he wasn't the same person with amnesia. He was a new person forced into a set identity and role from the very moment he opened his eyes. That's what the family failed to realize, and, in a way, why Nexus turned out the way he did. He was deprived of an idea of self from the start. Doomed by the narrative, even.
I do blame Sun for what he said and did. As a sibling, it's his job to help and adjust to his brother's condition. As a sibling myself, if my little sister "forgot" who she was, and was "reset" to the very start, I'd let her grow into the person she was meant to be—even if it isn't the same person I knew before. Because sometimes, letting go is the best act of love you can give someone.
An older sibling's job is to protect and preserve the younger's joy. You can literally see in the episode how Sun crushes NM's excitement over origami because "It just didn't feel right". That's selfish. That's wrong. You're supposed to blame him for that. Anything else is just not what the show is trying to tell you.
Nexus isn't completely innocent—but to ignore the factors as to why he made those choices is to ignore the entire character himself.
I don't see how you can't blame Sun. He says himself that he's at fault, and maybe he blames himself more than he should, but he is still at fault.
Here's a list as to how you literally cannot say Sun isn't to blame:
Sun forced Nexus into that role from the start, simply because he wanted the old Moon.
Sun constantly compared Nexus to someone he wasn't, going as far as to judge his hobbies because "Moon wouldn't do that".
Sun didn't push help onto Nexus when another Moon from a different dimension LITERALLY TOLD HIM TO. If he had done that, Nexus may not have become Nexus.
Sun left Nexus to rot in a dingy dungeon because he didn't act the way he wanted.
Sun's inability to act is potentially why Nexus had that faceoff with Puppet, and got sent into space where Dark Sun picked him up.
Sun's (+ the rest of the family's) inability to act is also potentially what led to Dark Sun—as he confessed himself—leading Nexus down a worse path.
Sun, ultimately, was the one who killed Nexus. <- This one was almost entirely Ruin's fault, but still. The blood is on his hands nonetheless. You can't tell me Sun threw a fireball at the guy and expected nothing to happen.
Every twist and turn in Nexus' life story you can find a way in which Sun fucked up.
I feel like HALF of these are stuff that sun couldn't control. Puppet only went there because of Monty trying to save Terra. Sun had the option of one: locking Nexus up in a jail cell or two: literally let Puppet kill him. You can see which ones are objectively better, right? And if Sun got involved, it wouldn't really do anything considering the fact that a lot of people tend to downplay him. And during this time, sun could barely even use his powers and he wasn't as smart as Monty, solar, or nexus. So he was basically powerless in the situation and couldn't do anything as much as he wanted to.
I would like to also say that, yes, sun is at fault, but he's not the one to blame. There were a LOT of things that he could have done to make the situation better for him and nexus. But why blame sun, when dark sun was the one who orchestrated all of this? Why blame sun, when ruin had a part in this? Why blame sun, when eclipse was the one who put them all through this in the first place? Sun was put in a pretty rare situation and didn't know what to do. Why should we blame him for that?
(P.s. I could be misremembering something so I apologize for that)
Okay, so the problem here is that everyone seems to think I'm only blaming Sun. I'm not only blaming Sun. There's an equally long list for each character as to how they're to blame.
This isn't just about the situation after Solar's death— you can literally see, in yesterday's episode, that even in day-to-day life BEFORE THAT TOUGH SITUATION Sun was unintentionally mistreating Nexus. He should have known better. He said this himself.
God, you Sun fans really don't see past your own rose-tinted glasses on this guy, huh? He's not a good person. That doesn't mean he's a bad one, but he's not the wonderful sweetheart brother you portray him as.
Never say, sun is a good person. He is an asshole.
The whole thing how he handled Dazzle father? Shitty
The whole thing with Rose bell? Terrible
He fucked all his relationship better than anyone
But compared to everyone in the family (except terra), he is the best.
And the best brother too. Like, no one can do better than him if they were put into his situation
And have you put the rose tinted glasses too??? On Nexus ?? Every time Sun just breathes wrong about Old Moon, like how he unintended remembered wrong sometimes, Nexus immediately lashed out.
He also constantly villainize Old Moon too, making jokes about Old Moon despite knowing how uncomfortable Sun was at this topic
Even the time Sun killed himself just to kill Eclipse and make Nexus can be happy after, Nexus managed to make it on himself like how dare Sun not trust him or anything while DUDE LITERALLY KILLED HIMSELF FOR NEXUS
If you say Sun is not a great brother towards Nexus and constantly unintentionally mistreated him then you should also admit Nexus is not a good sibling.
He constantly decides things for the family and people can't breathe loudly or dare to do anything when he gets angry.
The literally reason why puppet and Monty and foxy goes straight to kill mode because they see how dangerous Nexus can be when he out of control because no one can stop him
Nexus make clear about it
Nexus is the best brother for Sun as Sun is the best brother for Nexus. The only person who can blame Sun for everything is Nexus and just because Nexus has so much complicated feelings towards Sun
To be honest, I feel like your Nexus fans (I'm not saying all) are too much baby him and couldn't admit that he did all this himself
Like you guys couldn't love him without blaming him for how he turned out for the others
I NEVER SAID NEXUS WAS GOOD SIBLING EITHER??? HE WAS HORRIBLE?? HE'S NOT A GOOD PERSON??
MY GOD. I WAS TALKING ABOUT SUN. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT YOURE GONNA DRIVE ME NUTS!!!
The fact you said "you Nexus fans" tells me you went into this conversation seeing me as less because I like a different character than you. This conversation is over. You clearly cannot respect me, or the original argument, so this is done.
No, Sun is not a good brother. That's it. That's the reality. Sorry you're unable to see that????? It's literally what the show is telling you.
Dude you literally bring Sun fans in first, telling them only see him in good and cute light
I treated all the arguments with respect and explain things towards you but you couldn't receive the same manners
Our arguments don't go anywhere because in your mind Sun is always the bad person and he is at fault how Nexus turned out this way while AGAIN, you put Sun in too much high ground
Dude, you are the one who keeps twisting things up.
My point, clearly, because it seems like you couldn't understand what I said is that and I'm tired of you keeping screaming
Sun is not blamed for how Nexus turned out
Yes, he can feel guilty because he should have treated or did anything to change the outcome, but he is not wrong in the whole Nexus and Sun relationship
Even Nexus said that himself, and Sun is the best brother he could ask for
Sun never responsible for Nexus action, Nexus is
And the only two or three persons who were blamed on this is Dark Sun, Ruin , and Eclipse
The celestials, I feel like all blame themselves because of what they've dealt with but we'll start with sun,moon and nexus
Basically sun feels guilty for trapping Moon inside their head for ages and then now they think they deserve all the things they don't really know how much as many people in his position would honestly do the same thing and how many people in a position would do the opposite and then so one Nexus died then he would just blame it on himself cuz he thinks that from all the hatred he's gone from the Creator and the old Moon and yada yada yada then basically he just thinks that everyone's everything's happening because of him and no well he's getting help now but you know.
Moon basically he's been whacking his son for too long I probably I think I saw like a comment or it was either common or something similar to what moon said in a show maybe I'm wrong on both and maybe I'm just I don't know basically if Moon hadn't done the little kill code switch thing then none of this would have happened and he also basically wants to be a better brother has like a valid point sometimes it's a habit and so many people or maybe it's just me that like son's been wanting to wanting mood to just change certain habits to make them feeling good soon cuz I feel like I don't disagree with me with his habit of like finding everything out before telling people personally I do that as well and I know other people do hopefully anyways so I feel like yeah I kind of agree with that and I kind of disagree with that at the same time but I feel like Moon didn't really need to like after they separated he could have just talk to someone blocking at his head and all and instead of like bring out the whacking stick and just doing that I personally agree and disagree I feel like I keep saying that but yeah I feel like moon is to blame for some bits some sibling for some bits and then so there's a new moon I kind of can't really say stuff right now so basically yeah Moon would probably blame himself and probably say that it's not his fault or cuz we I feel like at some point he's told sun is not his fault I feel like at some point in attempts or not attempts cuz I feel like Moon's personality and Nexus personality they're actually like very different and not very different at the same time makes like very sense and not very sense or whatever
Nexus or NM would basically be kind of what would have happened if none of them did this they did and basically yes I shouldn't have really forced him to go into his new body because I feel like you know after coming back from like not knowing anything or even coming like even if you had your memories of coming back I feel like you wouldn't even know what would be happening around you for a while cuz I feel like Moon had his memories he came back and he didn't know who the hell Terra was I feel like it's just me but honestly it would yeah technically yeah I feel like son but then again I feel like we can all agree that so I'm just basically has like the most trauma dumped onto him for that is publicly known I feel like if we further looked deeper or something into the moon and nexus's personality is then basically it would kind of justify something because for me it just personally doesn't make any sense so yeah that's all I have actually so I'm a go before I cause another argument cuz I know someone's going to start criticizing on this and I personally don't care anymore :3
Okay, this may or may not get me shot on sight, but I wanna say this since today's episode of TSAMS involved my boy Nexus...
I don't blame the family or Sun for treating Nexus/New Moon like he was just Moon back from the dead.
Look, if I basically died and came back, but with no memory of who I was, I wouldn't expect my family to treat me differently. I expect them to act like I'm still me. They just need to teach me to be me again. I don't blame Sun for acting like Nexus was Moon cause in a way he was.
Now, this is an oddly specific situation, so I don't expect everyone to have the same reaction as me or do the same thing as me, but that's just what I expect my family to do.
I hope this makes sense cause I'm like half-asleep right now, and it's only 4:12 pm.
I HEAVILY disagree. Nexus was never Moon. That's what the show is trying to tell you— you're inherently making the same mistake Sun did. He wasn't a reincarnation, he wasn't the same person with amnesia. He was a new person forced into a set identity and role from the very moment he opened his eyes. That's what the family failed to realize, and, in a way, why Nexus turned out the way he did. He was deprived of an idea of self from the start. Doomed by the narrative, even.
I do blame Sun for what he said and did. As a sibling, it's his job to help and adjust to his brother's condition. As a sibling myself, if my little sister "forgot" who she was, and was "reset" to the very start, I'd let her grow into the person she was meant to be—even if it isn't the same person I knew before. Because sometimes, letting go is the best act of love you can give someone.
An older sibling's job is to protect and preserve the younger's joy. You can literally see in the episode how Sun crushes NM's excitement over origami because "It just didn't feel right". That's selfish. That's wrong. You're supposed to blame him for that. Anything else is just not what the show is trying to tell you.
Nexus isn't completely innocent—but to ignore the factors as to why he made those choices is to ignore the entire character himself.
I don't see how you can't blame Sun. He says himself that he's at fault, and maybe he blames himself more than he should, but he is still at fault.
Here's a list as to how you literally cannot say Sun isn't to blame:
Sun forced Nexus into that role from the start, simply because he wanted the old Moon.
Sun constantly compared Nexus to someone he wasn't, going as far as to judge his hobbies because "Moon wouldn't do that".
Sun didn't push help onto Nexus when another Moon from a different dimension LITERALLY TOLD HIM TO. If he had done that, Nexus may not have become Nexus.
Sun left Nexus to rot in a dingy dungeon because he didn't act the way he wanted.
Sun's inability to act is potentially why Nexus had that faceoff with Puppet, and got sent into space where Dark Sun picked him up.
Sun's (+ the rest of the family's) inability to act is also potentially what led to Dark Sun—as he confessed himself—leading Nexus down a worse path.
Sun, ultimately, was the one who killed Nexus. <- This one was almost entirely Ruin's fault, but still. The blood is on his hands nonetheless. You can't tell me Sun threw a fireball at the guy and expected nothing to happen.
Every twist and turn in Nexus' life story you can find a way in which Sun fucked up.
I feel like HALF of these are stuff that sun couldn't control. Puppet only went there because of Monty trying to save Terra. Sun had the option of one: locking Nexus up in a jail cell or two: literally let Puppet kill him. You can see which ones are objectively better, right? And if Sun got involved, it wouldn't really do anything considering the fact that a lot of people tend to downplay him. And during this time, sun could barely even use his powers and he wasn't as smart as Monty, solar, or nexus. So he was basically powerless in the situation and couldn't do anything as much as he wanted to.
I would like to also say that, yes, sun is at fault, but he's not the one to blame. There were a LOT of things that he could have done to make the situation better for him and nexus. But why blame sun, when dark sun was the one who orchestrated all of this? Why blame sun, when ruin had a part in this? Why blame sun, when eclipse was the one who put them all through this in the first place? Sun was put in a pretty rare situation and didn't know what to do. Why should we blame him for that?
(P.s. I could be misremembering something so I apologize for that)
Okay, so the problem here is that everyone seems to think I'm only blaming Sun. I'm not only blaming Sun. There's an equally long list for each character as to how they're to blame.
This isn't just about the situation after Solar's death— you can literally see, in yesterday's episode, that even in day-to-day life BEFORE THAT TOUGH SITUATION Sun was unintentionally mistreating Nexus. He should have known better. He said this himself.
God, you Sun fans really don't see past your own rose-tinted glasses on this guy, huh? He's not a good person. That doesn't mean he's a bad one, but he's not the wonderful sweetheart brother you portray him as.
Never say, sun is a good person. He is an asshole.
The whole thing how he handled Dazzle father? Shitty
The whole thing with Rose bell? Terrible
He fucked all his relationship better than anyone
But compared to everyone in the family (except terra), he is the best.
And the best brother too. Like, no one can do better than him if they were put into his situation
And have you put the rose tinted glasses too??? On Nexus ?? Every time Sun just breathes wrong about Old Moon, like how he unintended remembered wrong sometimes, Nexus immediately lashed out.
He also constantly villainize Old Moon too, making jokes about Old Moon despite knowing how uncomfortable Sun was at this topic
Even the time Sun killed himself just to kill Eclipse and make Nexus can be happy after, Nexus managed to make it on himself like how dare Sun not trust him or anything while DUDE LITERALLY KILLED HIMSELF FOR NEXUS
If you say Sun is not a great brother towards Nexus and constantly unintentionally mistreated him then you should also admit Nexus is not a good sibling.
He constantly decides things for the family and people can't breathe loudly or dare to do anything when he gets angry.
The literally reason why puppet and Monty and foxy goes straight to kill mode because they see how dangerous Nexus can be when he out of control because no one can stop him
Nexus make clear about it
Nexus is the best brother for Sun as Sun is the best brother for Nexus. The only person who can blame Sun for everything is Nexus and just because Nexus has so much complicated feelings towards Sun
To be honest, I feel like your Nexus fans (I'm not saying all) are too much baby him and couldn't admit that he did all this himself
Like you guys couldn't love him without blaming him for how he turned out for the others
I NEVER SAID NEXUS WAS GOOD SIBLING EITHER??? HE WAS HORRIBLE?? HE'S NOT A GOOD PERSON??
MY GOD. I WAS TALKING ABOUT SUN. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT YOURE GONNA DRIVE ME NUTS!!!
The fact you said "you Nexus fans" tells me you went into this conversation seeing me as less because I like a different character than you. This conversation is over. You clearly cannot respect me, or the original argument, so this is done.
No, Sun is not a good brother. That's it. That's the reality. Sorry you're unable to see that????? It's literally what the show is telling you.
Dude you literally bring Sun fans in first, telling them only see him in good and cute light
I treated all the arguments with respect and explain things towards you but you couldn't receive the same manners
Our arguments don't go anywhere because in your mind Sun is always the bad person and he is at fault how Nexus turned out this way while AGAIN, you put Sun in too much high ground
I love all these theories and personally,I read them properly when I have the motivation I just woke up :p but I'm happy that I'm not the only one who sees that Suns's not a 'good guy' I've always thought so because quite obviously it caused a chain reaction with what Moon did and still does and I'm not saying Moon's innocent. Is clearly not but like I sometimes feel that whenever son does something warm into something cuz Moon looks keep a bottled up for some reason and fun fact I've noticed plenty of things that those two just take about each other and yeah you can blame it on the Creator I guess but technically they would have had it like a peaceful life most likely peaceful life with everyone they have in their life right now if son had to like if they hadn't blocks them inside their head and I feel like if Creator hadn't done the whole kill code thing or something I don't know I'll read the whole thing later and then say my theory or like my opinion but like this is what I think so far it's kind of confusing I'm tired I woke up 5 minutes ago and my head hurts so is my stomach and but yeah I feel like Moon thought that you just had like the audacity cuz like on sun did that and trapped inside his head Moon just like all the anger and basically kill code and you know whatever I don't like come on basically thought that you know just like give him a taste of his own medicine or something I have
I used the voice thing so quite obviously someone this is not going to make sense I'm too lazy to type I feel like if they found out that the kill code existed sooner and then that would be another key thing if the Creator never actually I wasn't so basically I joined on I'm just going to say this right now I joined on the episode of nexus's first death where it where your son had to choose between Moon and Nexus so I don't really know much about the lore I've been well I do but I don't I'm trying to catch up mostly about the Creator I already know that he's a b**** and that he's done stuff and that I'm not going to God damn I'm tired and yeah like honestly next is kind of had a reason but also you don't really have a reason to just f****** go insane and that rate but like at the same time you did cuz honestly I'm honestly I know how he feels I'm being treated the same f****** way in this family and I personally agree I would go insane too but I wouldn't go to that link that I would kill everyone just to bring someone back and all that I mean let's be very honest the only people that are like truly innocent are like the kids cuz we know yeah yeah some people are just probably going to say Charlie didn't isn't Innocent but like technically she is and technically she isn't she knew what to do and the reason I'm saying this is because some people online for some reason think Charlie is not a good person and they think she did on purpose which obviously she did but you know what I mean anyways um I really don't know what else to say it's just a fact that everyone's evil at this rate I'm not very sure also so like everyone's having like the whole argument with this on the Nexus thing I kind of haven't watched the episode so I'll just like reblog this again once I have it once I have cuz my parents don't allow me to watch the show and I just watch it whenever they're not home which is at the current moment so technically they're not inside the house but then again yeah I'm going now just like I'll properly attempt to read this later so yay :3
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