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You wanna know whatâs pretty messed up?
So thereâs a mini, joke chapter at the end of Fullmetal Alchemist Volume 3 called âFlame vs. Fullmetalâ âif youâve watched FMA 03, youâll remember they adopted aspects of this into the semi-joke episode, episode 13âAnyway, the premise is that people have started musing about the timeless question, âWho would win in a fight?â between Ed and Roy. And for the hell of it, Ed and Roy agree to an all-out alchemist battle to settle the matter.
Fast forward through the battle a bit, Edâs lured Roy out with a decoy and seizes the opportunity to jump the Colonel from the smoke.
In classic Roy fashion thoughâ
âheâs prepared. âYou sliced up my right glove but psyche Iâve got a second one that does the exact same thing.â
And Edâs toast. Rip Ed.
This whole sequence is pure humor, all jokes and snark and the satisfaction of watching Ed and Roy try to beat the shit out of each other. But something about it seemedâŚfamiliar. Something that finally clicked.
In this silly little sequence, Ed chose disarmament of his enemy over victory. He chose securing his position of power by using his automail weapon to slice through his enemyâs transmutation circle rather than actual violence. And his foolish trust in passively subduing a powerful opponent is what gets him well and truly burned.
And then, well thereâs his fight against Kimblee. Chapter 76
Ed spent a long chunk of the lead-up to this battle arguing that he does not want to kill Kimblee. He gets into a fight with the Briggs soldiers about this, and they never quite convince him that Kimblee is better off murdered.
So when it comes down to a fight between the two of them, Ed chooses mercy. He chooses Kimbleeâs life. He separated Kimblee from his philosopherâs stone, and slices out the transmutation circle on Kimbleeâs palm.
And just when heâs let his guard down, convinced heâs passively wonâ
âKimblee, rather than Roy this time, pulls out his trump card.
ItâsâŚnigh identical. Ed sees an opening, uses it to disarm, then is taken by complete surprise that his opponent has a second transmutation circleâŚa second philosopherâs stone.
In Flame vs Fullmetal, Ed is just sort ofâŚcomically blown away. His weakness was exposed and his pride suffered for it. Against Kimblee. Wellâ
âhe does not get away in tact.
And it hits as such aâŚdark piece of continuity. A trueness to this being Edâs weakness, and a stark, cold, harsh reality in the fact that there are bigger, scarier things out there than Mustang, yet things just as manipulative, powerful, tactful. Things which will kill Ed at a momentâs notice, that do not deserve his mercy.
Ed lives, but he sacrifices his own life-force for it. He surrenders years off the end of his life to pull through. This is an unforgiving consequence shown to naivete. And the parallel exposed in a joke chapter from volume 3 is justâŚ
âŚwell, chilling.
Fullmetal alchemist saying over and over again nothing breaks equivalent exchange nothing can deny it, it is the single rule at the core of this world, it is the one immutable thing, it cannot be changed it cannot be altered, an eye for an eye, an arm for an arm a leg for a leg. For hundreds of chapters. And then it says except... and you say "except?" and it says except...freely-given sacrifice. To love someone so much that you would give up all your power for them. That's worth a soul.
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âThere are bad people who would be less dangerous if they were quite devoid of goodness.â Francois de la Rochefoucauld
#IâVE WAITED FOR THIS GIFSET MY WHOLE LIFE THANK YOU ASHLEY#I THINK ABT THESE SCENESâŚ..ALL THE TI MEâŚ.#like i remember the day it finally clicked for me why ed looks at roy like that#that moment is the most powerful and destructive example of royâs alchemy heâs ever seen#and he Gets it. you can see it in his eyes that he knows Exactly why roy had such devastating influence in ishval#and in the last gif?? heâs fucking hORRIFIED#the mannequin soldiers were going to kill him and he still sees how roy takes them out as excessively violent#and donât you tell me that what happens in this scene doesnât have a role#in how he goes looking for roy later when heâs chasing down envy đđđđđđ#ch: edward elric#ch: riza hawkeye#ch: roy mustang#body horror cw#death cw#fmab graphics (via @bisexualwinry)
#fma#gif#âŚoh shit#i didnât know roy could just CARBONIZE people#like âburn to deathâ yes (and all the horror inherent to that) but not âturn into a bbq brisketâ chunk of charcoal shit#âŚwell now i know what people meant when they said he has impressive control#heâs WEAVING FIRE in a three dimensional space CARBONIZING enemies and not even singeing allies#iâd have thought âi can melt you like candle waxâ would have been the most horrifying aspect of his abilities#but no..no no#the horror is that heâs got a surgeonâs control of it and all the ramifications of his mental sate that implies#âŚâŚgoddamn#heâs CIRCULATING gasses in MULTIPLE loops that are INTERCONNECTED#he has to have the ability to calculate ON THE FLY where the fire needs to go and how it has to loop to stay in control AND lit#and he got that from EXPERIENCE#and ed is smart enough to realize all of that and probably more in that moment#justâŚroyâs mental flow state for MURDERTIME#fucking hell#because he canât just disassociate and calculate like that
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another fma edit i made (04/02/2024)
Apparently I started this flipnote 10 years ago. Which is crazy to think about. I decided to dust off my old friend (my red dsiXL) and try again from the ground up on this one.

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i dunno fma fandom i havenât been around in a while but i still see random âroy should have stayed blindâ takes and i wonder if anyone can read
ed, breaking the 4th wall: actually kids this is wrong because this entire series is about atoning for your mistakes and living with the consequences of your mistakes but truth taking the colonelâs eyesight was completely unfounded and out of left field because the colonel did not choose to make this mistake and was instead forced, which therefore nullifies the narrative of this story we have been telling for 100 chapters. which is why the colonel got his eyesight back
I think most people's issue with Roy getting his eyesight back is not that they hate him and think he deserves to be blinded but because he got it back using the souls of a people whose genocide he took part in. They think it should be Ishvalan people, and not Dr. Marcoh, who decides whether Roy working to rebuild Ishval makes him worthy of their people's souls. Does that really justify the demands of taking responsibility for your own mistakes? Like yes, Truth's punishment was unjust, but does that mean Roy is entitled to Ishvalan souls?
is this anything
I don't mean this in any jokey or disrespectful way; is there any truth to the alchemy in say, the Full Metal Alchemist anime? The symbols or transmutation circles?
Actually the author of FMA did a ton of research into historical western alchemy. The whole law of equivalent exchange is a real alchemical concept from hermetica, and one that sir Issac Newton expounded into the law of thermodynamics.
The elrics dad, Van Hoenhiem, is based on a real alchemist named Theophrastus Bombastus Von Hoenhiem. At one point Pride even references the real alchemists name.
Basically everything about alchemy in FMA is taken from primary sources, down to the symbology of transmutation circles to the color scheme of Edwards design.
The way alchemy works in FMA doesnât resemble the way real-life alchemy is or was supposed to work, however, FMA is still packed full of references to real-life alchemy. The most obvious one is Hohenheimâs name, but there are plenty more! (Ed and Al also share their names with real-life famous occultists, Edward Kelly and Alphonse Constant (Eliphas Levi), but this might be a coincidence.)Â
It is probably no accident that Edâs color scheme is black, white, and red. The three main stages of alchemy are names the nigredo, the albedo, and the rubedo. Nigredo, the black stage, is when the matter of the Stone âdiesâ and putrefies, representing spiritual death. Albedo, the white stage, is when the matter of the Stone is washed, boiled, and turns to vapor, which condenses back into water, and the cycle repeats. This represents spiritual ascension and unification with the divine. Finally, during the rubedo, this âvolatileâ matter becomes âfixed,â crystallizing into the Philosopherâs Stone. Ed also has gold hair and eyes, which is fairly self-explanatory. Gold is a metaphor for the state of spiritual perfection.
The âFlamelâ symbol of a serpent nailed to a cross thatâs on the back of Edâs coat, painted on Alâs pauldron, and tattooed on Izumiâs chest is the âcrucified serpent,â which actually does come from Nicolas Flamel. It represents the completion of the Great Work, the union of the fixed and volatile, the mercurial serpent physically nailed down to the cross with its four arms representing the Four Elements (with Quintessence in the center) and the reconciliation of polarities. It also demonstrates the death and mortification of the old body that is necessary for the Philosopherâs Stone to be reborn:
The wings at the top of FMAâs âFlamelâ is probably meant to represent Mercuryâs Caduceus, and maybe also the resurrection of the snake. The crown references the âKingâ that is a metaphor for the Philosopherâs Stone. The Flamel symbol also bears resemblance to the Staff of Asclepius, which represents medicine in the real world.
Another example is the âGreen Lionâ on the flag of Amestris that acts a symbol of the military and is referenced a few other times:
In real alchemy, the âGreen Lionâ is a symbol of antimony ore and represents the Philosopherâs Stone in its âimperfectâ state, before itâs been purified. The Green Lion eats the Sun (representing perfection and Gold), causing a solar eclipse, representing the nigredo (death), the first stage of the Great Work. Amestris was created for almost exactly that reason, and it is far from âpurified,â with corruption running deep into its core.
The image of the lion eating the sun appears in the show, when Ed and Ling are in Gluttonyâs stomach:
Thereâs also the transmutation circle itself, which looks so realistic, I actually thought it was real when I first saw it online:
Hereâs a real magic circle:
Real magic circles are from ceremonial magic, not alchemy, but the text around the outside of the Human Transmutation Circle does reference alchemy. The âpeacockâs feathers,â the spotted panther and the green lion (as previously mentioned), the progression of black, gray, white, and red, all are metaphors for chemical reactions that are supposed to take place in an ideal alchemical procedure.
Some of the more complicated transmutation circles that appear throughout the show are also based on real designs from manuscripts. Thereâs this design on the wall of the Fifth Laboratory:
Here we see the Sun and Moon (more on that in a minute) and three symbols of Mercury, which represent their unification. This looked very realistic, so I did some searching and this is what I found:
Itâs not exactly the same, but itâs clearly an image from an alchemical manuscript, and itâs very similar.
The designs on Ed and Alâs doors are real. The design on Edâs door is the Kabbalistic Tree of Life as depicted by Robert Fludd in his seventeenth-century book Utriusque Cosmi:
The design on Alâs door comes from an alchemical manuscript called The Marrow of Alchemy by George Ripley (as in, the Ripley Scroll). It depicts the alchemical process:
I havenât managed to find where the design on Mustangâs gate comes from, but I wouldnât be surprised if that one was real, too.
One more thing I want to draw attention to is this dialogue between child-Ed and child-Al in âHe Who Would Swallow God.â
Edward: âThe Sun is male, representing masculinity.â Alphonse: âThe Moon is female, representing femininity.â Edward: âWhen the Sun and the Moon overlap, then the two genders become one.â Alphonse: âIn other words, the union represents a perfect being.â
The Sun and Moon are kind of a big deal in alchemy, and they are associated with maleness and femaleness respectively. Their role in real alchemy is as the metaphorical âparentsâ of the androgynous Philosopherâs Stone, the perfect being:
The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse. The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.
âThe Emerald Tablet
Through the âchemical weddingâ of the Sun and Moon (sulfur and mercury), the Philosopherâs Stone is produced. I actually didnât consider that a solar eclipse might be a symbol of the chemical wedding, until Ed and Al explicitly pointed it out in that episode. Thatâs not what an eclipse traditionally represents in alchemy (thatâs the Green Lion swallowing the sun, the nigredo and dark night of the soul that follows the first chemical wedding), but I still think it makes sense.Â
(An image of the Chemical Wedding itself actually appears on the door to the exam room in the 2003 anime.)
Alchemy in FMA mostly doesnât resemble real alchemy beyond those references. Real alchemy isnât equivalent exchange â changing something into something else of equal value â but rather, metamorphosing something into a more improved version of itself. Theoretically, this would be turning âleadâ into âgold,â the most base form of metal into the most perfect form of metal (as was believed). But real alchemy isnât about chemicals, and it never really was. Real alchemy is a spiritual process, meant to transmute the soul from its âbaseâ human state into a âperfectâ spiritual state. The way to do this is to separate out the âsubtleâ from the âgross,â i.e. the higher spiritual self from the mundane and earthly human self, and then joining them back together so that the spiritual self purifies the mundane self. This is summarized by the Latin phrase âsolve et coagula,â to dissolve and to congeal, or alternately, to separate and to bring together. FMA parallels this with its two parts of alchemy being deconstruction (solve) and reconstruction (coagula). Therefore, the character whose goals and motivations come the closest to those of real alchemists is⌠believe it or not⌠Father.
What Father wants, or at least what he says he wants, is knowledge. He wants all the knowledge in the universe. Thatâs what most occultists want, actually. Most occultists want to either merge with or become alike to God, although they all have different theories and methods of doing that. In FMA, the Philosopherâs Stone is an alchemical catalyst powered by human souls, but in real life, the Philosopherâs Stone is (long story short) a metaphor for the perfect being that Father wants to become. The real Philosopherâs Stone is a being that is a perfect balance of male and female, sun and moon, dark and light, human and divine. It is therefore whole and complete. As I understand it, a person who has become the Philosopherâs Stone can, theoretically, have the power and knowledge of a god whilst still being able to live on earth as a human.
By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world and thereby all obscurity shall fly from you. Its force is above all force, for it vanquishes every subtle thing and penetrates every solid thing. So was the world created.
âThe Emerald Tablet
Fatherâs âperfectâ form is a perverse version of this ideal.
(This form gives me some very confusing emotions.)
âAs above, so belowâ is the Hermetic Principle of Correspondence, the closest thing to a real Law of Equivalent Exchange â it is the idea that the Macrocosm (God, the Universe, Truth) reflects the microcosm (humanity), and that by affecting one, you affect the other. The goal of the alchemist is to become the Philosopherâs Stone, the place where Human and Divine meet and become one thing.
I canât believe it took me until now to see âAs above, so belowâ represented here. Even the episodeâs title makes that obvious! But despite that blatant symbolism, there is no healthy convergence of divine and human here. Many occultists believe in something called âego death,â which I used to think meant losing oneâs individuality, which sounded a lot like being trapped in a homunculus with a torrent of other screaming souls. Only now, after watching this show, do I understand what âego deathâ really means. This scene is pure ego on Fatherâs part:
HEAR ME GOD! I DEMAND YOU ANSWER THE CRY OF MY SOUL! COME TO ME! JOIN ME! YES, I WILL NO LONGER BE BOUND TO YOU OR YOUR CONSEQUENCES! IâLL FORCE YOU DOWN TO THIS EARTH AND INTO MY BOWELS! YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BE ABSORBED!
ââEye of Heaven, Gateway of Earth.â
This isnât a genuine attempt to understand God, this is just an inferiority-superiority complex. Father doesnât care to understand anything about God. All he cares about is himself, and acquiring power for himself. Power is all heâs after, to assuage his inferiority complex. And thereâs nothing inherently wrong with wanting power (e.g. Mustang), but godlike power to command the universe is a byproduct of having properly completed the alchemical process and become the Philosopherâs Stone. It is not the end in and of itself. âEgoâ isnât having a sense of self, itâs the inability to understand the spiritual. Itâs viewing everything in a mundane lens, having all your motivations be ultimately small and petty, no matter how grand the spectacle. Itâs wanting power or glory or whatnot just to make yourself feel better, but not having the self-awareness to actually admit that. The first stage of the alchemical process is nigredo, death â watching your old self die away so that it can be reborn as a better version of itself. Father never understands this, and The Truth says as much.
The Truth is a personification of the Hermetic Principle of Mentalism:
Who am I? One name you might have for me is The World. Or you might call me The Universe. Or perhaps âGod.â Or perhaps âThe Truth.â I am All, and I am One. So of course, this also means that I am you.
Thatâs basically it right there. God is All. All is God.
The reason why the Homunculus never grew beyond his days in the flask is because, despite wanting to acquire knowledge, he never actually learned anything. Trying to drag God down to Earth is sheer hubris, not because Earth is too far beneath it, but for the opposite reason â it can come down to Earth whenever it likes. It is everywhere and everything. And the Homunculus never did any of the introspective work needed to find God within himself. He tried to separate out (solve) his perceived âflawsâ (the Seven Deadly Sins, i.e. the other homunculi) but did not reintegrate them back into himself (coagula), thus only completing half the alchemical process. He is neither human, nor divine, he only steals Hohenheimâs human shape and Truthâs divine power. He never broadened his thinking or improved himself mentally/spiritually, and thus canât become alike to God. He never became more than what he is, the dwarf in the flask, and thus his Gate is blank.
Edward, by contrast, loses almost everything in attempting human transmutation (nigredo), and then accepts his own humanity at the gate of Truth (albedo), losing the ability to perform alchemy but becoming a better version of himself (rubedo) â thus, completing the alchemical process. In the end, heâs free, which is all Father wanted to be. He acknowledges that you donât have to use alchemy or whatnot to become more than you are, because who you are is enough.
Thus, Edward becomes the best version of himself, which is what real alchemists aspired to be. Heâs completed the Great Work, and therefore has no need for alchemy anymore. âThat is the correct answer, alchemist!â
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For FMABruary last day: Truth
It's been like... a long time since I've watched the anime but it still reigns as one of my favorites! I was late to the Fmabruary challenge this year hence the last day prompt but was happy to contribute anyways <3
I also have this as a print now!