A lot of what people refer to as chaos in D&D games is actually just players being very fluent within the rules and is quite literally lawful
The rest of what people call "chaos" is mostly random chance (ie, wild die rolls) or bold but completely in-character decisions that, notably, are still within the rules of RP.
People who are against D&D combat are in my opinion often the most combative players who see D&D as a Players vs. DM game
It's also just generally dumb to play D&D as a combat-free game when plenty of games that don't have combat as such a major part of the ruleset and core expectation for many class features exist, but I've covered that before
A lot of people conceptualize the DM as Order and players as Chaos, but often the players they perceive as chaotic are the least opposed to the DM.
For actual play specifically, a lot of players people perceive as the most attention-grabbing or controlling are the most collaborative
Like, the thing is, a lot of stuff that people call "chaos" is just...interacting with the world. I can't find it right now but I once made a post that was like "if you touch the cursed sword you are doing a good job at D&D."
Things like counterspelling a counterspell or a clever use of a battlemaster attack out of combat to disarm someone of a nontraditional item are extremely orderly, and they're only read as chaotic by people who think DMs are out to win the encounters rather than provide a good story framework. Choices like pressing the big red button are also not chaotic! They're players saying OH this button is where the STORY is. A good DM wants you to play with the world and try to thwart the villain. That's super normal. The chaotic choice is to like, hear that the world is ending and be like "well too bad I'm going to set up a frozen yogurt shop," not march into battle but do some silly things. Even thwarting the DM's story plans isn't terribly chaotic if you have good in-character reasons and are working together as a party!
Murph, who no one would I think refer to as chaotic, calls the "screw the plot I'm starting a frozen yogurt shop" type "players trying to avoid playing D&D" and they're the chaotic ones and they don't really exist in actual play because they would be excruciatingly terrible to watch.
Does D20 or CR fandom use 'chaos' in a way that means 'bad' or 'problematic'? This feels like an island of discourse I'm watching from a tiny boat drifting past.
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There really is something deeply alluring about Imogen and Laudna's relationship. Itās built on trust, but itās a trust that cannot be shaken or tested because then what will they have? They were both lonely and ostracized for so long only to find a kindred soul in the other, and then forged that connection in blood when they ran away together. They cannot question that bond because itās been Everything they have for the last two years.
Itās support, but itās also enabling. Imogen, faced with the horrifying prospect of having to face her mother in battle, wavers, hesitates, questions, and the group rightfully reminds her of what Liliana's people has done. Laudna, meanwhile, points out that Imogen should not be made to kill her own mother. That Imogen has a choice and that itās only hers, and that Laudna will follow her no matter what. And Imogen breaks down, because here is her Person, her tether, her better half, not questioning her choices or pointing out the moral right or wrong, but simply seeing why this is a painful choice and assuring that she trusts enough in Imogen's desicion to be there no matter what.
Is that trust healthy? In Laudna's resurrection, Imogen didnāt demand but asked, trusting and hoping that Laudna would make the right choice and return. Now Laudna extends that same grace, only the consequences would Imogen choose wrong would not be contained to their party, a small group in mourning, but cause worldwide destruction.
Imogen needs to be questioned. She needs to be reminded of what the Ruby Vanguard has and will done. Imogen also needs to be seen, for someone to understand the excruciating position she is in. But in giving her that, did Laudna truly help her?
Thereās an interesting parallel to be made to Fjord and Jester. In Rumblecusp, Fjord told Jester he didnāt care about 100 other people, he cared about her. In Aeor, he told her he wouldnāt let her fling herself against her enemy at the cost of herself. He said this not because he didnāt care about other people, or because he would help her hurt others for her own sake, but to remind Jester that her life mattered, too, and shouldnāt be thrown away for others. Imogen, meanwhile, hasnāt been diminishing or risking herself the way Jester did. When Fjord reassured Jester's worth, it was a challenge in their dynamic, him saying he wouldnāt let her hurt herself. When Laudna reassured Imogen, it specifically skirted around challenge, because their dynamic doesn't allow for challenge. Imogen came to her looking for trust, for safety, for the one person who wouldnāt challenge her.
Perhaps thatās what she needs; perhaps she will make the right choice no matter what, and only needed to see that someone trusted her judgement. Perhaps itās enabling, dangerous, toxic, and Laudna will be the one made to choose: follow Imogen into darkness, or break her word and her trust.
i did really like that hondir expressed sadness for imogen when he heard about her getting her mom's powers. like yeah imogens powers are super cool but they also completely changed her life, isolated her from her dad, and prevent her from doing stuff constantly. very happy that someone acknowledged that part of it rather than just acting like it's fully awesome magic with no drawbacks. based on imogens reaction im not sure if anyone has ever really done that before
Something I want to talk about because I see a ton of fanon that for some reason frames the relationship the opposite way, is how Imogen has always shielded Laudna from unpleasant realities, not the other way around.
Laudna has some serious arrested development. Itās both obvious in the narrative, and something Marisha has explicitly labeled on 4 Sided Dive. Imogen, on the other hand, is very grounded and in many ways more mature. Sheās certainly the more pragmatic, practical, and realistic of the two. Itās not surprising that we recently learned sheās in her late 20s. Sheās always acted that way.
Iāve always seen Laudnaās desire to insist Imogen is powerful and perfect and fine to be as much about Laudna as it is about Imogen. Laudna missed having the young, late 20s life Imogen is experiencing, so Laudna wants and needs for it to be a positive one. She wants to be assured that Imogen is having a better time of things than she did. So Imogenās powers canāt be bad or distressing or uncomfortable, because that would mean Laudna wouldnāt be seeing her flourish where she (Laudna) was unable to.
In contrast, Imogen seems to have picked up on that and itās why she was never particularly honest about her own discomfort, fears, or the danger of her powers in front of Laudna. Yeah, Laudna always defensively insisted Imogen wasnāt a danger and stopped those conversations, but Imogen was just as much trying to shield and assure Laudna which cut off any more serious discussions.
It was only after Laudnaās death that Imogen had a really serious, open, and uncomfortable discussion with the group about her magic. And not because Laudna was no longer there to āprotectā Imogen, but because Imogen no longer needed to protect Laudna.
I guess Iāve just been sort of confused seeing the framing the other way, because regardless of their ages itās always been clear to me that Imogen is the more mature of the two, and sheās also the one who is more often being protective - itās just quieter and more subtle, which is also in-character for Imogen.
I don't know if it's partly your blog header (KeylethāCalebāImogen Pipeline) that brings this to mind, but Laudna's approach to Imogen reminds me of Veth's approach to Caleb- which makes it incredibly interesting that their dynamic is reversed, as you point out. Veth hyped Caleb up the way Laudna hypes Imogen up, but Veth was clearly the more mature one trying to hide her raw emotional truths to spare Caleb, just as Imogen seems to be here.
(Now I'm wondering if you could read something similar into Vex and Percy, actually...)
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Someone needs to talk about how Taliesin characters relate to the past sometime, it's a really fascinating running theme.
Percy, on a mission of revenge, unimpressed by the ancient things called gods and inventor of new technologies he regrets, who retires to life as a clock maker.
Mollymauk and Kingsley, whose relationship to their past is defined by how and why they choose to reject or embrace it.
Caduceus, whose family has all moved on, slowly vanishing, while he stands still on top of the dead, and watches his family's legacy corrult around him- only to find his family just as frozen in time as he was.
And Ashton, whose memory is patchy, who lives in the moment as much as possible, who is full of every possibility of who he could be.
Laudna really would have fit in well among the Mighty Nein, in some ways. The two names, the past lurking in the shadows just waiting to haunt her...someone needs to write the AU where Laudna joined Gustav's circus. Not sure which of the Mighty Nein to swap out, though...
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Ashton, made of shattered rock, smashing through a wall of bone to the marrow.
Orym scampering across the roofs of a past vision of Whitestone, a city he knows by reputation as a place of great horror and hope.
Laudna's resemblance to Delilah, to Vex. And thus, her connection to them- the way her fate interweaves with theirs. Imogen and Vex noticing it, marking it. Chetney not knowing whether the shadow he saw is friend or foe.
(What will you do to save the one you love? What will you sacrifice?)
Actress, singer, and author Anjali Bhimani is always on the move. You may recognize her from Netflixās Special, or from Critical RoleāsĀ Exandria UnlimitedĀ as the fire genasi Fy'ra Rai. Anjali also voices main characters in popular video games including āSymmetraā in Overwatch, āRampartā in Apex Legends, and āKalaā in Indivisible. Her first book entitled I Am Fun Size, and So Are YOU: Thoughts from a Tiny Human on Living a Giant Life will be out soon, and Anjali took time out of her busy schedule to chat with us about her upcoming book, which video game she'd want to be stuck in, and more:
If a series were made about your life, what would it be titled and what type of show would it be (comedy, musical, mystery, drama, etc)?
It would be a musical romantic action comedy. I know that seems like a lot of disparate genres, but my life has been as all over the place as that. It would be the āEverything Bagelā of television. I see a whole number where Iām doing full on stunts and singing while I unwittingly and clumsily fight off bad guys and eventually find my perfect partner - and given that my husband and I run around the house singing songs to the dog, the only part thatās missing in real life is the action hero part. I just have always wanted to be an action hero, so Iām throwing that in there. And I want to get to wear incredible corseted gowns or stretch leather pants as we do it.
The title? Welllllā¦.truth told, Iām writing something that isnāt exactly autobiographical, but has a title that I would TOTALLY use if it were my life story. So, youāll just have to wait and see when it comes out and guess if thatās the one. Either that or Iām Not Your Freakinā Auntie (If you know, you know).
Can you teach us something?
There is an INCREDIBLE creature in India called the Malabar Giant Squirrel and it isā¦I kid you notā¦PURPLE. Multicolored, actually. I learned this doing a show called Rival Peakā¦my character was a nature expert and she mentioned this magical creature and I couldnāt believe it existed. So I went online and went down the proverbial rabbit hole. Or the squirrel hole, I guess. I was in such disbelief when I learned about it, I actually looked it up on Snopes and yepā¦itās real. (Iām still nervous someone is going to tell me someday that itās a hoax, so I think Iām going to have to go to India and see one in person before I can fully believe. But that day will be as magical as the day I first hung out with quokkas in Australiaā¦maybe even better.
What would you like a review of your book to say (we're manifesting!)?
āAlthough the cover I Am Fun Size and So Are You may look whimsical and lighthearted - and it is at times - once I dove into its pages I learned so many new ways of looking at challenges, I realized it was something I'd be going back to visit again and again, like that good friend youāre always excited to see, for years and years.ā
Basically, Iād love to hear that the reviewer found somethingā¦even just one thing, but hopefully more, that helps them in their life too. And that they can keep going back to for new ways to look at the world.
What are you overthinking about right now?
These answers! Ha! No, noā¦
It sounds a little weird, but I think Iām overthinking about thinking. I can get so caught up in how the mind - or my mind works - and trying to psych myself out to get myself to do things the "rightā way, rather than just DOING the thing, and going with simple but not easy solutions. Being a perfectionist is a great way to never get anything done.
What are your favorite catch phrases or lines from the video games that you voice over?
Iāve loved Ā āWelcome to my reality,ā one of Symmetraās voice lines, since Overwatch first came out, because itās sort of a declaration of being in her territory - like sheās saying āYouāre in my world now.ā And her ultimate in Hindi sounds so powerful, Yahi Param Vaastavikta HaiĀ (which, translated, means āThis is the ultimate realityā) that I love saying it. I also love āIf I can think it, I can create itā - so aspirational. And Iām pretty thrilled that Rampart says āDopeā because I say it in real life all the timeā¦although 90% of her lines are guaranteed to make me smile. Iām definitely a little more like her in real life than Sym, as much as I may aspire to be as elegant as Symmetra is, Rampartās āno filterā style is probably closer to me in the real world.
If you were caught in the universe of a video game, which game would it be and what would you do?
Okay, I havenāt finished playing it (another embarrassing admission, but itās a time issue) but the Last Guardian, because that beautiful puppy dragon is a creature I NEED to have in my life.
Whatās a class that you think should be part of every high school curriculum?
Two classes: Personal Finance and Civics. Itās ridiculous to me that I learned how to balance a checkbook in grade school and then everything else I learned about money came from my parents. Iām shocked by how many people graduate from school with no understanding of basic personal accounting. And civics because I think weāve lost the ability to have civil discourse about different opinions about policy. The whole basis for a democracy is that we should have an understanding of how the system works and that the electorate should be privy to all the information we need to make informed decisions.
What advice would you give to someone who wants to enter the entertainment industry, but either doesnāt know where to start or lacks the confidence to put themselves out there?
There are so many aspects to being an entertainer or an artist that I donāt think there is any one right way to do any of it, so lead with what gives you the most joy. Usually, our way āinā to something is a combination of what brings us joy and what we either have natural talent at or a burning desire to learn. If you love dancing, youāre likely to train more in it, and be better at it, and maybe thatās your way in to the industry. While itās so easy to look at someone elseās path and think you have to do it the way they do, really itās your uniqueness combined with your passion and focus that is going to make you successfulā¦at anything, really. So combine what brings you joy with dogged determination to be good at it and create, and find that excitement that drowns out the fear.
Can you share an insight or excerpt from one of the sections in your upcoming book that especially impacted you/your life, and tell us a bit about it?
Sureā¦in the book I talk about the time - a specific series of events - when I realized that nervousness and excitement are essentially the same physiological sensations, but with different thought processes: for me, I noticed when I was nervous I was thinking about everything that could go wrong, and when I was excited, I was thinking about how fun it was going to be to tackle the unknown. Itās changed the way I look at live performance, auditions, and really so many times in life. And itās actually made me welcome so many of those physical sensations that I used to try to tamp down. When I get that sensation of my breathing get a little bit shorter or my heart start to go a little faster, usually I can clock it, and focus my thoughts on what could go right instead of wrongā¦then it feels like my body is preparing rather than panicking.
Do you have a mantra?
Success through lowered expectations. Honestlyā¦it sounds like pessimism, but for me itās actually more about not attaching to outcomes. Iām very impressionable AND have a lot of very high expectations of myself. So when I think I have to achieve something, I tend to get so attached to the outcome that I shut myself off to other, potentially better outcomes. Iāve learned for myself that the less Iām focused on specific expectations, the more open I am to wonder and surprises. Some of the best things in my life have come when Iāve completely let go of the āhopeā of something and just focused on knowing something good will come, eventually, even if I donāt know what it is.
I think an excellent aspect of campaign three is staunch allies Taliesin and Sam, I think that dynamic, especially with their current characters/dispositions, is going to be very, very, very good
Iām continuing my Campaign 2 rewatch and something in ep 71 made me sit bolt upright going āholy shit.ā Itās the moment where Dairon and Beau reconvene in the Xhorhaus, and Dairon asks Beau to introduce them as a ātrusted allyā to one of the Neinās contacts in the Dynasty.
And Beau refuses. She doesnāt think she could do it without arousing suspicion, and she doesnāt want Daironās activities to jeapardise what the Nein are doing. So instead Dairon starts masquerading as the Neinās housekeeper.
But if Beau had agreed⦠the Nein only really had two contacts at this point. There was Waccoh, who probably wouldnāt have been much use to Dairon⦠and there was Essek.
Essek. The literal traitor Dairon was searching for.
So if Beau had introduced Dairon to Essek in the way Dairon wanted⦠would it have led to a plotline where Dairon realised what heād done, and the Nein helped end the war by revealing Essekās actions to the Bright Queen? Maybe. But that didnāt happen. Dairon obviously got close - Iām convinced that Essek showed up exhausted that one time, talking about a break-in in the Bastion, because Dairon had been snooping around. But Dairon didnāt get close enough to the truth before Essek was baring his soul to the Nein and pledging his loyalty to them.
Beau probably saved Essekās life and soul without realising she was doing it. All because sheād come to trust herself enough to be certain that her approach, and the Neinās approach, would be what put things right.
There's a really interesting essay somewhere here about conventional morality, tradition, and authority- Beau and Nott have a lot of strongly-held moral impulses but Beau can be somewhat impulsively anti-authoritarian, while Nott seems to trust in tradition- yet Nott prefers to handle things personally and interpersonally rather than politically- she doesn't trust mechanisms and systems, she trusts people. And there's Fjord, who defaults to following a kind of moral inertia- the lessons he learned growing up are the right ones- but that includes a distrust of politicians, of wizards, of bullies...and Jester, for all that she's anti-aithoritarian, has this idea that the average person's moral foundatuons must be right.
When we talk about heroes and villains in fiction, we're often talking about people who don't just accept society's morality, traditions, and authority- but the Nein are particularly interesting in that they seem reluctant to accept any of those three, when taken as a group- even Caduceus, Yasha, and Caleb, who are, on their own, inclined to follow.
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I for one cannot wait to see the house in Ank'Harel the C3 party will live in for two weeks, hire help for, stay in another few nights, and never return to again
I don't think Avengers (2012) even caused that directly! People were just choosing to write everyone living in Avengers' Tower the way the Teen Titans did in Teen Titans (2003); I'm confident that show is what ultimately led to that spate of fic.
I am like, meh about puzzles in D&D because it's just really hard to convey them, but I did love the Siff Duthar mini-dungeon crawl and that puzzle with the schools of magic was fun!