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i wish i knew how to quit you.

And by that I mean to point out that Tim is more anal about the whole "no killing" thing and Bruce and Cass combined!

Even at his lowest in RR 2009 he still refuses to kill Captain Boomerang! When met with an evil (and murderous) future version of himself, his response is threatening suicide, to avoid such a future from ever becoming.

Whenever I think about Reverse Robin AUs my go to is typically some kind of paralytic neurotoxin, which would render the victim in a permanent "locked in syndrome" esque state.

Like the thing about Tim -- actual, pre-Robin, training-to-be-Robin, start-of-his-Robin-run Tim -- is that he sets out on his vigilante journey with two things literally no other batfam member has had before. Tim is normal, and he is happy.

Early Tim, you'll hear a lot in some circles, is meant to be a bland self-insert: look at this kid, he's a Batman fan, just like you! Only he's got more money AND more freedom than you, which means that he gets to have the coolest hobby ever, and when Batman gets in trouble this kid can actually help him out. So cool!

Dick, Jason, Cass, Damian -- they all come to vigilantehood after backgrounds that're various levels of implausible, tragic, and traumatizing. Batman, and their ability to don a cape beside him, rescues them. Their lives get better when they put the uniform on.

Tim's doesn't. Through coincidence or fate or force of plot, Tim agrees to be Robin and his life immediately gets worse. Tim's mom (who canonically loves him and he loves dearly, who's gone more than maybe she should be but a good mom when she's there) dies. Tim's dad's in a coma. Tim's life is upended.

Tim gets strangled by Azbats. Tim almost dies of the Clench. Tim gets all the typical vigilante/sidekick suffering stuff. Tim gets fucked with and fucked over by an increasingly paranoid Bruce.

Tim tries to leave to go back to his normal civilian life but he can't any more, because he is the Normal One, he's been the Normal One for so long that he's missed how much he's changed until he has to fit all of himself inside one single box of normalcy. He tries to leave and it follows him. It haunts him. It stalks him. It kills his friend. It kills his girlfriend. It kills his dad.

(That's the Tim that Jason runs into in Titan's Tower, for fucksake. The orphan living alone in Bludhaven, who's been Robin for years, who left it and then came back because nobody else could live up to him, who's been taking care of himself for ages. The one with half his life and identity pinned not on being granted the opportunity to playact as impostor-syndrome Robin -- that's Tim of two or three or four years ago, just starting out, before he started accumulating loss -- but on being Robin, and being damn fucking good at it. Jason thinks Tim stole his job. Tim thinks he's been doing this goddamn job for four years and if one more person tells him that it's not his, he's going to show them why he doesn't need to turn into Gun Batman to be scary.)

His best friend dies. His other best friend dies. 16- to 17-year-old Tim McFucking Loses It, even before Bruce also dies and pushes him right over the edge, but the tragedy of the Red Robin run isn't just Tim's general sense of self-worth and belief in his ability to be loved. It's stepping back, looking at it in context, and realizing that this was all preventable.

Dick Grayson was never going to be normal, before or after his parents died. Jason was never going to be fine. Cass was doomed long before Bruce ever got to her. But Tim chose this shit. Twelve years old, looking at Batman, too smart for his own damn good but in a way that never once stopped him from making friends and fitting in just fine before -- Tim chose. And he kept choosing, until long after it stopped actually being a choice, until it became all he had, all he had left. Tim made himself into the sort of creature of power and grief that most of his teammates and family had no choice but to be.

The Drakes being sucky parents is not fanon. They were so absent from their 12 year old’s life he was able to become a superhero without them knowing. That is neglectful, shitty parenting. It is, at least, borderline abusive.

I'm not denying that they weren't great parents when he was young, but to treat them the way the fandom does? With constant accusations of physical abuse and "leaving him alone in that big house for months on end at 8 years old" is ridiculous and shows a clear lack of actual DC canon.

Not to mention that by the time Jack Drake was murdered, he had finally become the father Tim had wanted.

A vast majority of their absence during Tim's time as Robin comes down to Jack being in a coma, and then Tim later lying to him about his nightly activities, which was a major plot point throughout Robin 1993. Upon discovering that Tim was Robin, he immediately put a stop to it, due to the danger such a role posed, and only relented when he realized how much being Robin meant to his son.

Tim had all he needed on the physical level, and then some. He was emotionally neglected, as I mentioned in the tags on my original post, and to suggest that he was abused is to demean and diminish victims (both real and fictional) of actual abuse.

im so obsessed with them :(((

everyone's just being happy and silly but tim is giving the biggest stink eye (mask??) because someone nearby is talking crap about his besties for life (the others can hear and don't care but tim cares)

tim would never be annoyed at his besties, never in a /srs way unless they're. y'know. doing something harmful/stupid/deadly (that's his job!)

what designs am i using? ...look them up on google images and use whatever design looks the coolest. my refs are under the cut