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"Cihangir, my lion son..."

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I'm not a Born in the Wrong Generation type person for anything except that I know my calling was to be an evil vizier. I'm so fucking mad I will never have a chance to give a flourish and a deep bow and creep back into the shadows with flashing eyes and say shit like "your wish is my command," I will never poison the sultan's rose water tea, I will never be the most cunning and sharp-tongued eunuch in the imperial court, I will never share schemes with the courtesans and jealous servants with my mouth coyly concealed behind a hand mirror, I will never know the dark joy of kinslaying my golden-haired brother the jarl while hunting a white hart in the old woods, I will never be the black-veiled empress-dowager manipulating my kind-hearted but weak and oafish son on the throne, fuck fuck fuck fuck!!!
But really, the Valeria-Nurbanu dynamic could be so fascinating! We get a glimpse of it in Episode 104 with Canfeda telling them that they are equals now when Valeria starts to wash Nurbanu at the Hamam, but I doubt that the show will do much with it.
If only the servant character ended up being the Nurbanu, it could be fascinating. But anyway, at the very least Nurbanu is illegitimate, but I would prefer her to have been a servant.
honestly i've always felt like Valeria made for a better protagonist. not the character herself but the premise of a servant ending up outranking her former mistress. especially with the way Nurbanu acts towards her in the beginning, ordering her around and being just plain bitchy. it sets Valeria up as the underdog and you end up sort of rooting for her to outrank Nurbanu, who is set up as more of a mean girl, BUT *stop reading if you don't want spoilers*
Valeria ends up being so unlikeable and used solely for another pointless concubine arc that it falls flat.
better idea, Nurbanu is the servant and Valeria is the mistress. Valeria is still ordering her around and being bitchy and Canfeda still reminds them they're equal now. because of this, Nurbanu adapts quicker to the system (she already did, but this time it makes more sense).
they both get inspired by Hurrem, but maybe Valeria wants to and ends up being a high-ranking servant of Hurrem instead? you can still have her being bitchy and delusional towards Nurbanu, cause at that point no one expected Selim to become Sultan, and a high-ranking servant of the haseki would technically have a better standing than a prince's concubine. this also removes the pointless Raziye arc.
and towards the end when Hurrem sends Fahriye to murder Nurbanu, how juicy it would have been if it were Valeria instead?
i've watched three different adaptations of hurrem's story, two turkish ones and one ukrainian. one thing i've noticed is that mahidevran is ALWAYS portrayed as the jealous ex, the previous love of suleyman's life that got her relationship homewreckred by hurrem.
quite frankly i find it very weird and a prime example of modern writers not grasping the norms of the time, and prioritizing drama over an exploration of how characters would behave in that time.
If I'm not mistaken, concubines weren't allowed to have more than a son from the Sultan. In view of this policy, the role of the 'betrayed bride' assigned to Mahidevran makes absolutely no sense.
exactly! and the "one mother one son" rule often gets ignored specifically to cast Mahidevran in that role and to mantain the romantic rivarly between her and Hurrem
i think a change that would improve the story overall is making Hurrem and Nurbanu a lot closer. like maybe introduce Nurbanu a bit earlier, turning it into a more Mahidevran/Fatma situation, where Nurbanu's first significant plotline isn't as a prince's favorite, but as Hurrem's attendant.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT!! think about how Hurrem sees herself in a young Nurbanu. how she comes to fiercely protect her, let her get away with some stuff, all because she didn't have anyone to do that for her when she was younger.
think about how they get close, how Nurbanu, as a venetian bastard, comes to idolize Hurrem because she finally sees the living proof that the circumstances of your birth don't matter. think about the mother-daughter relationship they would have!!
think about how crazy jealous Mihrimah would become seeing her mother relate so much to a mere "slave" and treat her as her own. like this would develop the later Mihrimah-Nurbanu rivarly so much!!!
and my god just think of the angst when they finally go their separate ways because Nurbanu's priorty shifts to supporting Selim. when Hurrem finally decides to get rid of someone she once saw as her own to protect her sons
Apparently, the historical Hürrem raised Nurbanu after she came to the harem before offering her to Selim. There wasn't any animosity between real Hürrem & Nurbanu before she died. But ooh boy, Mihrimah hated her guts (huge competition between them as the de-facto valide sultan & the haseki sultan/future valide). Of course, Nurbanu won since she was the mom of the next sultan, while Mihrimah faded into relative obscurity as the sultan's aunt & she chose to go the the old palace, not before giving the new sultan his favorite, Safiye, who had the same rivalry with Nurbanu.
yes!! and it would have been so interesting if the rivarly started off as a childish jealousy for Hurrem's affection evolving into a political power struggle, rather than an attempt to repeat the Hurrem- Suleyman's sisters conflict

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i think the worst Hurrem take i've seen is that she suffers from some sort Cersei Lannister-like internalized misogyny where she hates other women and thinks all women apart from herself are weak.
i think she does display internalized misogyny because of her environment, but to call her a woman-hater is a stretch. almost all of her significant relationships are with other women. she seeks out the approval of other women such as Ayse Hafsa. the child she trusts the most is Mihrimah. the most telling, however, is sending Nurbanu to Selim specifically because she believes a strong woman will make him stronger.
what do you think?
Agreed. Hürrem will step over other women and she is prone to jealousy. But she doesn't just hate other women. The example that I tend to use to demonstrate the difference between Hürrem and Cersei is that Hürrem would have ordered that the wedding leftovers be given to the people. And yes, she does try to seek out support from other women as well as being someone who doss show care and empathy for them. After all she is very capable of seeing her own past self in other women. Which was one of the reasons why she approved of Nurbanu/Selim in the first place. And she tells Nurbanu as much. Cersei on the other hand isolates herself due to her paranoia. Hürrem is paranoid and mistrustful, but she still seeks out female friendships.
I do think though that Cersei and Hürrem are versions of the same type of character archetype that is inspires by someone like Livia in I Claudius. But Hürrem is an antiheroic version rather than a straightforward villain and a deconstruction of the archetype.
It’s definitely one of those moments where, yes, parallels can be drawn, but it’s never (as with any case, I think?) an absolute match. Case and point, perhaps, being that I’ve managed to link some parts of Cersei as much to Mahidevran as to Hürrem.
There are similarities—love to near obsession, devotion to their children, all while being perfectly capable of resorting to acts of cunning to survive. The spot where things start to diverge for me, however, is how Hürrem learns, overtime, to actually reflect the political acumen that Cersei only thinks she has.
In regards to internalized misogyny, it actually makes sense that Hürrem never fully adopts that either? For Cersei, the narrative that surrounds her life has shaped a belief that masculinity means power and that, by comparison, the more feminine role she occupies is a horrid weakness.
“When we were young, Jaime and l, we looked so much alike even our father couldn’t tell us apart. I could never understand why they treated us differently. Jaime was taught to fight with sword and lance and mace, and l was taught to smile and sing and please. He was heir to Casterly Rock, and l was sold to some stranger like a horse to be ridden whenever he desired.”
“She had played the dutiful daughter, the blushing bride, the pliant wife. She had suffered Robert’s drunken groping, Jaime’s jealousy, Renly’s mockery, Varys with his titters, Stannis endlessly grinding his teeth. She had contended with Jon Arryn, Ned Stark, and her vile, treacherous, murderous dwarf brother, all the while promising herself that one day it would be her turn.”
By comparison, it’s made clear to Hürrem, right from the start, that there is just as much power to be held in a feminine role. A concept only reinforced by the very nature of the harem where high-ranking woman occupy politically powerful roles far more than anywhere else.
it makes total sense and you put my thoughts into words perfectly. it's not that Hurrem doesn't have any internalized misogyny, but she sees the value of holding a sort of feminine, soft power, whereas Cersei only values "the kind of power anyone can see" that men have.
It’s absolutely wild to me that American right-wingers can take a look at the totalitarian communist regimes in eastern Europe and conclude that the bad part was state providing basic services (healthcare, education etc.) and not, y’know. The totalitarianism.
How to Write A Story (Without feeling like your work is awful and wanting to put your fist through a wall)
Your First Draft The “Word Puke” Stage
Don’t write anything more than plot. If you have an idea of a character, the most important thing is to just get it down. Don’t worry about errors. Don’t worry if it doesn’t make sense. The worse your first draft is, the better. A lot of people think that good writing comes from a good first draft that just gets improved. No. Good writing comes from a good idea that is written badly, and then fixed. The more lowly you think of your first draft, the more likely you’ll want to improve it.
I wouldn’t even call this a draft. I’d call it a word puke stage. Just get your thoughts on paper. Once they’re concrete, you can work with it.
Your Second Draft
Don’t worry about writing philosophical undertones to your plot. That comes next. For now, just make sure your story is coherent and has all the basic elements a story has (like fully developed characters, a beginning, middle and end) and all that that you didn’t do in your “work puke” stage. In this stage of your writing, just make sure there aren’t any errors or holes in your plot and don’t forget about adding in other elements that develop the character’s personality, actions and feelings as well as the plot!
Your Third Draft
Now you can write in deeper meanings and other philosophical undertones to your story. Fix up all the mistakes in your second draft, chop out plot holes, revise, and redo and your original idea! You should have a complete and clear plot. Your character at this point should be an “iceberg” character, meaning what’s shown in the story is only about 10-20% of what you actually know about them! The deeper you know your character, the more fun it is to write about them. And remember, the story is told through the character’s eyes, so make sure you really know them.
Your Final Draft(s)
Here’s where the serious editing takes place. This is where you add the finishing touches to your story. By this point, you should be confident in your writing and what your editing comes down to is just how you word your sentences to fit your character’s charisma and develop your plot. Every single word you use should contribute to character development or furthering the plot. Add in the finishing touches and boom! You’re done.
the concept of 'sperm whale' is so fucking funny. these prudish victorians found a gigantic, terrifying sea-beast, and, discovering it was full of a thick, oily substance, immediately went 'is this fucking Cum???' and started fueling everything with it. they thought their whole sexually repressed society was running on the monstrous cum harvested by deadly expeditions to the black, icy sea. what kind of immaculate neuroses they must have had.
I can’t breathe
Best wishes to these people obviously but I’m WHEEZING at the concept of a standard horror plot starter but the stranded travelers are an entire fully equipped orchestra.
It’s the prequel to every other horror film. Their haunting spirits play the background music.
Oh shoot, that actually would be a really cool concept. The film starts with no thematic music, and as each member of the orchestra is picked off, their instrument joins the soundtrack. Subtly, so you don’t really notice, and the end credits are a full orchestral symphony.
DUUUUUDE
Call that a death note
That entire thing could also be used brilliantly for foreshadowing!
Like, you suddenly notice a string instrument in the background music and you haven’t seen a few of them in a while. And the more musically versed you are, the more you figure it out (like in a mystery novel if you happen to have in-depth knowledge about the current riddle) while the “normal” people can get fooled into twists.
The non-musically versed audience hears a new brass instrument and is like “Oh shit, the dude with the tenor horn is probably dead!”, but then he suddenly appears perfectly fine and one minute later they find the body of the Euphonium player.
And if the orchestra members can hear it as well, then it’s of course another layer cause THEY would probably recognize who is playing. And depending on the director, they could go full ‘Tomato in the Mirror’ and imply they know but Just. Not. Say it. (cause why should they, they all DO KNOW). So they are like “Oh no…. No…!” and start looking for the corpse while the audience is still stuck at “Ok, a violin player, but which???”
immediately after dying you get a brief solo
And since absolutely no music at the beginning would be kinda estranging, I’d suggest one singular instrument and it’s revealed early on that a member of the orchestra recently passed, leading into the reason why they visited the castle in the first place, yaddayaddayadda, the plot commences
The first guy who died played the triangle
It is absolutely essential to me that the orchestra remains Bolivian.

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shout out to everyone who participated in the january-february mass depressive episode
One of my favourite post formats is when someone with a similar URL to op torments them like they are failed clones of each other and it completely changes the tone of the original post.
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october 18, 2019
it haunts me everyday that kishi was asked if he’d date any of the women in naruto he created and he was like “haha no! i made them after all :-)” and then when he was asked if he’d date any of the men he was like “shikamaru.”
august 17, 2018

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march 16, 2019
today i’m sad about that one line from the creator’s commetary about how zuko is a tsungi horn prodigy and the little letter zuko, aged 7, sends iroh in “legacy of the fire nation” where he very politely requests that iroh come home and teach him pai sho tricks, because that casts such a different light on their interactions in book one. it was never iroh trying to push his own favorite things - pai sho and music night - on an uninterested zuko, it was iroh desperately trying to reconnect with zuko by recreating the activities he knows zuko used to enjoy. zuko, aged 7, once begged iroh to come home and play board games with him and now zuko wants nothing to do with him and you know that eats iroh up alive