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It's about getting anons upon anons telling us that Arya's story is not interesting because she is ugly. It's about fanartists drawing Arya beautiful and getting told that they are wrong for it and sometimes getting anon hate for it.

"She is just making lavish feast" cuz you know it's not like we were told over and aver again how those "lavish feasts" represent the power of the vale and those lavish feast are totally not filled with important political allies.

First, where is Sansa shown befriending important political figures? Where do we see her interacting with them in a significant capacity and making them her allies? I would like some actual quotes from the book illustrating this. All we get is her interacting with them on a surface level and staying in the background as part of Littlefinger's plan. And yes, feast can definitely be a show of power and great political tools but where do we see Sansa thinking of them as such? Sansa is excited because she likes feasts and tourneys, she spends more time thinking about the lemon cake LF has promised her than any of the participants who are coming to engage in the tourney. She isn't even handling anything logistical, like going over food stores or bookkeeping. She's working on enticing Harry but again, this isn't something she thinks of on her own. So far she has yet to come up with any of her own plans or engage politically outside of what LF has been directing her to do.

Also all i did was point out that "lavish feast" show power and are filled with important politicians, and littlefinger is teaching her how to manipulate people and this is not an insignificant thing so you jumped into making points i didn't make and disproving said made up points

What points did I make up that you didn't make in your original reply? You clearly said that Sansa was "befriending important political figures" so I asked you to point out examples from the books. You said that Sansa being called the "Key to the North" was important so I provided context. Where is the gaslighting? That I'm actually using book evidence and not just relying on fanon? No one said that what Sansa was learning wasn't important, it's just that it won't lead to her being Queen. As for Arya, she directly states that this will interrupt the envoys plans with the iron bank. ("This would make trouble for the Sealord and the envoy with the chicken on his chest, she did not doubt."). You being too busy reducing her arc to revenge doesn't mean the rest of us aren't paying attention. The appearance that a Westerosi envoy had a hand in the disappearance of a young Braavosi girl will cause issues for them, but maybe that's a little too complex for you to comprehend. As for your second "point", no I don't blame her for things that are out of her control. It still doesn't erase the fact that she was thinking about the logistics of taking Harrenhal and then convinced Jaquen to help her free Northern prisoners 🤷🏾‍♀️.

Not sure how that doesn't show leadership skills, along with her leading an escape for herself/Gendry/Hot Pie, but feel free to correct me. Still waiting for that book evidence I asked you for the first time around. Not sure why you haven't come up with it yet, but the fact that you're backtracking on your first reply (which we can clearly still see) gives me a hint.

Edit: Btw, here are some screenshots because you seem to have forgotten the points you made after I addressed them 🥰

"You remind me of her sometimes. You even look like her [Lyanna]."

"Lyanna was beautiful," -- Arya II, AGOT

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"Or would you sooner be a courtesan, and have songs sung of your beauty?" -- Arya II, AFFC

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"I look like an oak tree, with all these stupid acorns."

"Nice, though. A nice oak tree." -- Arya IV, ASOS

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"I'm sorry I tore the acorn dress too. It was pretty."

"Yes, child. And so are you. Be brave." -- Arya IV, ASOS

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An old man sat down beside her. "Well, aren't you a pretty little peach?" -- Arya V, ASOS

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Arya spotted a yellow tent with six acrons on its panels, three over two over one. Lord Smallwood, she knew, remembering Acorn Hall so far away, and the lady who'd said she was pretty. -- Arya X, ASOS

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She had never cared if she was pretty, even when she was stupid Arya Stark. Only her father had ever called her that. Him, and Jon Snow, sometimes. -- The Blind Girl, ADWD

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“The city watch is looking for a certain ugly girl, known to frequent the Purple Harbor, so best you have a new face as well." He cupped her chin, turned her head this way and that, nodded. "A pretty one this time, I think. As pretty as your own.” -- The Ugly Little Girl, ADWD

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The handrail was splintery, the steps steep, and there were five flights, but that was why she'd gotten the room so cheap. That, and Mercy's smile. She might be bald and skinny, but Mercy had a pretty smile, and a certain grace. -- Mercy, TWOW

Arya is a mix of both her parents. But as her story unfolds, with every new chapter and book, Arya has moved beyond her parents and into a far more dynamic character.

Ned was a role model to Arya, she loved him more than almost anyone (she loves Jon most of all). She holds on to Ned's memory now more than any of his children.

Ned is stubborn, quick to anger, loyal to a fault, and deeply devoted to his family to the point where he sacrificed his honor and died for his children.

Both Arya & Ned had a dislike for Southern culture. Which is double odd considering Ned was fostered in the South: That was never truly his place. Whereas Cat and Sansa are very much creatures made for the South.

Treatment of the smallfolk and not judging those lower than their station... That says a lot about their character, something Ned, Lyanna, Arya & Jon have all shown in the books.

Arya & Ned are similar but different as well. Where Ned was lacking, his ability to not see the truth in the lies around him - Arya has developed beyond that point. Ned was too slow and unyielding until it was too late and he died. Cat was to heedless, prideful, and emotional - that cost her life. At the beginning Arya was a mix of both her parents BUT her journey so far has made her grow and develop where her parents had not. By Book 5, Arya is extremely artful and considerate, patient and willing to face the truth in all its ugliness, adaptable and fluid like water - a changeling. That's how she'll survive where her parents did not.

While Sansa is learning how to flirt, organise a glorified party and remain passive and isolated.

Arya lives out in the open, has escaped death and captivity by her own wits, travelled all over Westeros leaving her memory imprinted on the people she met along the way, and her unyielding desire to never be helpless again which brought her to Braavos. The Sealord of Braavos stood up to a King and his dragons and won - all he did was whisper the "faceless men" and King's Landing yielded - that is true power. Arya will return to Westeros having grown in many ways. But like her father and mother, her family will always be her guiding light.

I love how the Northmen constantly connect Arya to Ned and want to fight for them both:

When White Harbour (a place Arya has visited twice with Ned) hears of "Arya Stark" marrying Ramsay.

“Was ever snow so black?” asked Lord Wyman. “Ramsay took Lord Hornwood’s lands by forcibly wedding his widow, then locked her in a tower and forgot her. It is said she ate her own fingers in her extremity…and the Lannister notion of king’s justice is to reward her killer with Ned Stark’s little girl.” - (Davos, A Dance with Dragons)

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As "Arya" suffers in Winterfell, they connect her to Ned:

"The bride weeps," Lady Dustin said, as they made their way down, step by careful step. "Our little Lady Arya." ... What do you think passes through their heads when they hear the new bride weeping? Valiant Ned's precious little girl." ...

"Lady Arya's sobs do us more harm than all of Lord Stannis's swords and spears.

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The northmen want to fight for Arya:

“Even ruined and broken, Winterfell remains Lady Arya’s home. What better place to wed her, bed her, and stake your claim? […] Let Stannis march on us. He is too cautious to come to Barrowton…but he must come to Winterfell. His clansmen will not abandon the daughter of their precious Ned to such as you. - (Reek, A Dance with Dragons)

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Lord Arnolf shoved himself up, a vulture rising from its prey. One spotted hand clutched at his son’s shoulder for support. “We’ll take [Winterfell] for Ned and for his daughter.” - (The Sacrifice, A Dance with Dragons)

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The Rose of Winterfell, the Stark Maiden from the Legend of Bael the Bard, the Lyanna blueprint:

The Rose of Winterfell and Catelyn Stark:

The Rose of Winterfell and Sansa Stark:

BONUS:

Bael the Bard, Eddard Stark and Jon Snow:

Art credits:

The Rose of Winterfell, Bael the Bard, Catelyn Stark, Sansa Stark and Jon Snow from ‘A Clash Of Kings’ Graphic Novel illustrated by Mel Rubi.

People are gloating... at people like you. Just a heads up. You relied on a graphic comic book that got several characters wrong: Shireen Baratheon has red hair in the comic book and BLACK hair in the asoiaf books.

But anyway. GRRM always making you guys look like clowns 🤡.

Arya, the Winter Rose and Lyanna.

There are these two passages oft referenced by Jonsas which seem to, in their mind, be the point of Jon's arc:

Whoever Jon's mother had been, Ned must have loved her fiercely, for nothing Catelyn said would persuade him to send the boy away. It was the one thing she could never forgive him. She had come to love her husband with all her heart, but she had never found it in her to love Jon. She might have overlooked a dozen bastards for Ned's sake, so long as they were out of sight. Jon was never out of sight, and as he grew, he looked more like Ned than any of the trueborn sons she bore him. Somehow that made it worse. "Jon must go," she said now.

(AGOT, Catelyn II)

Catelyn said nothing. Let Ned work it out in his own mind; her voice would not be welcome now. Yet gladly would she have kissed the maester just then. His was the perfect solution. Benjen Stark was a Sworn Brother. Jon would be a son to him, the child he would never have. And in time the boy would take the oath as well. [Jon] would father no sons who might someday contest with Catelyn's own grandchildren for Winterfell.

(AGOT, Catelyn II)

Basically, in Jonsaland, the point of Jon's story is to marry Sansa so Jon's children can be Catelyn's grandchildren too and bear the Stark look!

It's the perfect solution really: Catelyn's prejudices can remain unchallenged and validated because it turns out the bastard was actually a handsome trueborn prince in disguise so the bastard stigma no longer applies to Jon (gl all you other bastard losers lol). But best of all? Catelyn's fears are completely soothed and calmed! Her blood remains in power through Sansa's fruitful ovaries and a gaggle of assorted Stark/Tully looking children!

Jon, celebrate! This is what you and your arc have wanted the entire time the reader's known you on page! To not worry Catelyn and to reassure her bigotry!

But hey, doesn't Catelyn actually have a Stark looking child of her own whom the North is already rallying an anti-Bolton host around? Or did I imagine that ADWD storyline? Well, when Jonsas and Stansas aren't trying to rewrite the books and insist Sansa was either Arya's ignored role model or the victim to Arya's wicked step sister favoured by Ned, Arya slips their minds. Like when they conveniently pretend she doesn't exist upon Jon's dialogue, "What do you know of my heart, priestess? What do you know of my sister?" (or some similar dialogue) and ascribe it to Sansa.

Arya has the Stark look. Arya is Catelyn's child. Arya is trueborn. Arya's direwolf is still out there, alive. Arya's a character who is bucking the status quo. She's got leadership knowledge from overhearing her father's lessons, from sitting in on meetings with her father and his men. She's certainly well-versed in the issues plaguing the smallfolk. She has bonds with people from a number of places and classes. Arya was fashioned after second wave feminists GRRM knew, feminists who helped shaped society and give women more choice.

Stansas speculate the Stark line can continue through Sansa, so why can't it continue through Arya? Or are motherhood and marriage reserved for conventional femininity, as Jonsas seem to imply when they claim Jon wants a "lady wife like Sansa" because he wants kids and to be Lord of Winterfell? Because he was tempted to marry Val and to make her his wife? How does motherhood and marriage (to Jon Snow no less) require conventional femininity?

Why can't Arya be set up for a leadership position in Winterfell or even, of the entire North? Is it because of the hilarious reasoning I've seen some Jonsas and Stansas give: to hold the title of 'Lady', you have to, again, be a conventionally feminine lady (sorry Maege, I guess you're out then).

In case you didn't notice the wank going on, two suckpuppet accounts run by Stansas are pretending to be Arya/Dany fans who say the exact type of things Stansas accuse us of saying but can never prove since they're wrong.

@queendanyarya has been active for less than 24 hours. Yet they went straight into posting disgusting things, such as saying that Jeyne deserved what happened to her bc of "karma". They also seem familiar with the fandom from a year ago despite being new:

As you can see, their posts are similar to @aryafemenist1 and those similar "karma" posts and general grossness are posted very close in time with each other. They're also reblogging their very similar posts from each other, "agreeing". Naturally.

Stansas have already started using the "evidence" generated from these accounts as part of their eternal agenda to pretend they're victims and Arya/Dany fans are horrible, even going so far as to argue with themselves... I mean, with the suckpuppets:

I particularly find it disturbing that these socks are reblogging so heavily from Arya/Dany fans, dredging up old posts to pretend that they're part of the community. In particular, queendanyarya used a gif from my Arya/Dany manip that aryafeminist happened to reblog.

George R R Martin, the writer of the ASOIAF series, doesn't care that you hate Arya. He doesn't care that you hate conflict between certain family members. He doesn't care that you hate that he writes about incestuous relationships. He doesn't care that you hate the Targs. He doesn't care that the only Stark you like is Sansa and you want her to be the queen of everything. He doesn't care that you refuse to accept that ASOIAF isn't a series aimed for tweens and you want a guaranteed happy ending for your fave.

He will not alter or erase anything in the the published books that you feel isn't pro- Sansa. He's not going to stop writing about Arya because you are anti Arya. He's not going to make Arya and Sansa immediate bff because you and your sibling are. He's not going to change his writing style just to make you happy.

I’m sure someone will get angry at me for saying this but here goes. Even if you believe that there is too much emphasis placed on Arya’s potential future beauty and her parallel with Lyanna Stark, or that Arya stans care “too much” about the passages where she is acknowledged as pretty, there is a difference between saying “it doesn’t matter how a girl looks” (which is true) and only applying that to the female character who coincidentally happens to be disparaged relative to her older sister and who has body dysmorphia and self-image issues because of the bullying and alienation she faced in her childhood. 

More to the point, no one has to focus on Arya’s looks. In fact, for me, it’s not personally something I’m interested in. However, there is a hypocrisy in fawning and cooing over the quotes about Sansa’s beauty, and allowing people to make gifsets and edits dedicated to her beauty, and even enjoying that content, and then turning around and denigrating Arya stans who do the same but with Arya. Why is the former okay and acceptable in the fandom but the latter is grounds of being accused of misogyny, “caring about a girl’s looks”, and even “sexualizing a little girl”? How many gifsets and art pieces out there celebrate Sansa’s beauty, using the canon book quotes that highlight it? Is anyone criticizing the gif makers or artists who create that content? What about Sansa stans who count up how many times the word “beautiful” shows up in different female character’s arcs––is that not an obsession with female beauty? 

The other aspect to this is that you don’t have to focus on Arya’s looks at all, but there is something very bizarre and insidious going on when you have the editors using a more adult, conventionally beautiful fancast for Sansa, while fancasting tiny children for Arya or even BOYS for Arya. Misgendering Arya and using toddler like or male fancasts for Arya while using adult/young adult fancasts for Sansa is extremely weird. I’ll see this within the same gifsets or by the same editors, of people using older/teenage conventionally beautiful feminine actresses to fancast Sansa while using toddlers/infantile/male fancasts for Arya. Why use a boy to play Arya? She doesn’t want to be a boy and she takes pride in being a girl. It’s not her fault that she was forced to hide as a boy, but even then it became clear that she’s a girl. She’s so insecure about her looks that she thinks her own mother would not want her back. That isn’t Arya wanting to be some woke empowered tomboy, that’s Arya facing immense struggle because of what she’s had to survive coupled with a pre-existing insecurity from her childhood. 

Moreover, Arya is wild, she has the wolf blood, she’s half a wolf pup as Catelyn says, but that’s not all there is to her. Using the same scene of her eating bugs to contrast her as “primal and animalistic” against Sansa, who is “clean and pristine”, is very weird. Sansa has not had to eat bugs because she never had to starve or live in the wilderness as Arya did. How is that Arya’s fault? Arya doesn’t want to eat bugs or dirt––she had to because she had no food at that point in ACOK. Arya likes eating hot meals and being clean, one of the things she notes as somewhat positive at Harrenhal once she becomes a serving girl and then cupbearer. Again, it’s very weird that the same editors who’ll wax lyrical about how beautiful Sansa is and how she can play the harp and bells will not only infantilize and masculinize Arya and even portray her as a boy then turn around and reduce Arya to “bug eating ruffian/gremlin”. As if Arya doesn’t love flowers, as if she doesn’t have dreams of being Wenda the White Fawn, as if GRRM didn’t write a love song for her and Gendry, as if Lady Smallwood didn’t tell her to be brave when she wore the acorn dress, as if Arya doesn’t adore the courtesans of Braavos and is really good friends with them, as if Arya isn’t protective and maternal toward Weasel (another little girl), as if Arya isn’t represented by the water and the moon, as if Arya doesn’t have any kind of feelings or depth or complexity to her beyond “raggedy hair, looks like a boy when she’s on the run, eats bugs”.