Why The Fuck You Lying, Lily?

THAT is why she has such an IMMEDIATE, visceral, knee—jerk reaction to the notion that abuse victims can become the abusers themselves vie the Cycle of Abuse. Not because the cycle of abuse is wrong or not accepted by therapists (Honestly, I would say that any GOOD therapist should have an understanding of the reality of the cycle of abuse before meeting with ANYBODY who claims that they have been/are in an abusive relationship), but because accepting the cycle of abuse as being a neutral truth that ANY abuse victim can stumble into the pitfall. Would require Lily to admit that she HAS become the abuser, that (if she ever even was actually abused) she is definitely NOT the victim of abuse right now, and would obviously deal a massive blow to her pride and ego because she would now have to live with what a rotten, cruel ghoul that she has been/still IS being to both her fans and the people that she claims to love.

And I really think its that last part that’s why we will NEVER fucking see Lily grow or improve as a person. Because she is such a self—absorbed, deeply egotistical person that she just can not fucking admit to as much of a massive, life—changing of a fault that she is a fucking abuser, and that she has caused so much harm, harassment, and cruelty to other people due to her abusive actions. I wish that weren’t true, but I think that (unless she gets deplatformed BY Youtube, Tumblr, Twitter, Patreon, etc.) Lily will become more and more toxic, abusive, and cruel to EVERYBODY around her. Until they all finally leave (and they absolutely at some point fucking WILL LEAVE, because NOBODY can tolerate constant abuse and gaslighting forever), and Lily is just left in her own rapid downward fucking spiral into her own self—destruction. Screaming about why there’s nobody left to tolerate her cruelty and toxic abuse, and about how if they only cut themselves up a little more, just kept smiling and repeating everything that Lily wanted to hear back to her just a little fucking more often. THAN everything would have turned out fine and she would have the millions of subscribers and professionally accolades that she totally, rightfully fucking deserves.

Lily’s downfall would honestly be quite sad, if it wasn't also the downfall of a deeply disturbing, violent abuser who cares about nothing but herself and how she can justify abusing everybody that she claims to love TO herself as well.

You are right, anon. As much as it seems like some people are too browbeaten to leave, we must remember that people have their limits. There is only so much bullshit they can take before they realise something is wrong and they must leave. Usually all it takes is one kind person willing to hear them out, which is why abusers are determined to isolate their victims so they only hear their word and nothing more.

Basically Lily is writing a script and Mikayla is being quiet. Lily asks if she’s okay and Mikayla responds but she’s obviously tired. Then Lily asks if Mikayla wants to go leave the stream and go to sleep. Mikayla wants to go to sleep and asks Lily if she minds.

Instead of responding normally, Lily gets pissed at Mikayla for asking that. Lily says now that Mikayla asked that she’s gonna get anons in her inbox about it.

However, Nellie quickly took down ALL of those several posts once LILY began posting her own hitpieces about how Nellie was apparently ‘just a vulture’ and was “never really her friend to begin with”. And basically just encouraging her own audience to go and mob Nellie’s blog with abuse/harassment with the not—so—subtle threat to Nellie that she would become Lily’s new public enemy number one if she DIDN’T quickly take down all of those posts. After that Nellie pretty much cut all ties with Lily and therefore also had to cut ties with (at least) most of her other friends.

Also, to make it absolutely clear, I really don't begrudge Nellie at all for taking down those posts. Lily has a massive audience of rabid fans that will swarm and harass ANYBODY that she tells them to, and I can only imagine how hard it was for Nellie to even stand up to just Lily after she had spent so much time being manipulated and gaslighted by her. I think that those original posts of hers are archived somewhere anyways, but I still want to make it clear that I harbor no ill will towards Nellie whatsoever. That she decided that she wasn’t in a safe position to tell her true experience of being around Lily publicly. I only hope that one day we WILL be able to get her full story of her toxic, abusive friendship with LO.

.....What the fuck??? So we not wrong to say being friends with Lily is like...walking on fucking glass cause you never know when the fuck she'll decide your not friends anymore??? And again, we seeing Lily use her fans against someone she doesn't like....I'm sorry, but people who use their fans to do shit like that is just gross to me and a definite concern for how much power Lily has over her fans.

I was on a call with Nellie, Lily and Mikaila when Lily snapped and cut ties with Nellie, so I know exactly what happened. I'm pretty sure Nellie never said Lily was toxic or abusive to her ever, especially on her blog. In fact, she lied about why Lily decided she didn't want to be friends anymore because she did not want Lily to think she was just another "vulture". That was always Nellie's main concern. Even when I told her the vile things Lily had said about me, her attitude was still "I can't help but try to see the good side in Lily".

I do remember Nellie briefly talking about why they stopped being friends on her blog, but I have no memory of the posts being negative towards Lily. If there were any then I completely missed them.

she was finally free from Lily’s control

I can confidently say this is 100% bullshit because Nellie never wanted to be free from Lily's control in the first place. For the longest time she harboured the hope of being accepted back into Lily's friend circle if she "was good" and was "behaving well". Lost track of how many times I and other friends have tried to tell her to let the fuck go!

Lily hated that Nellie was further along/more successful in her transition that Lily was

This is probably half-true? Lily was jealous of Nellie's voice. She banned Nellie from appearing in her streams because she was uncomfortable by how feminine Nellie's voice sounded compared to hers.

this eventually culminated in Lily completely ghosting Nellie and banning/blocking her from her Tumblr blog and Discord Server

Lily didn't ghost Nellie. Nellie was probably one of the few people Lily bothered to say anything to before blocking tbh. I debated for a long time on whether or not I should tell this story but you know what? Fuck it. Here it goes.

Remember that time Lily had a breakdown on the Dark Lady server over no one being available at a moment's notice to raid on Warcraft with her? Nellie and I felt bad for her, so we both started to level up and gear up our characters to join her. For that effect, one day we got together to do dungeons and asked Lily if she wanted to join us. Lily agreed and brought Mikaila to play too. But Lily being Lily said she despised the dungeons from the new expansion (which were the ones we needed to do in order to actually raid with her...). So us, being the doormats we were, let her pick what dungeons we should run. She picked one from WotLK where Sylvanas appears.

So we're on a Discord call together and Lily asks Nellie to be the tank because she was playing a warrior. But Nellie was pretty new to playing a warrior and was only familiar with the DPS spec, so she was trying to figure out how tanking worked on the go.

We go in, kill like 2 mobs. Then Lily suddenly says "I really don't wanna do this", leaves the call and logs out of the game. Mikaila sighs, apologizes for her and leaves too. A couple of minutes later Nellie says Lily messaged her saying "I don't want to be around you anymore" and has a breakdown over losing her Val'kyr title on the Dark Lady server and being removed from the Friends & Family chat in Lily's patreon server.

I remained on a call with Nellie until she cried herself to sleep. I went to bed after 8am.

Later, this is what Lily had to say about it when I asked:

Which, you know, is fine. It's valid. No one should be forced to socialize with someone they don't like. I just feel like there was a better way and time to handle the issue... The way she did it was just cruel.

The blocking didn't come until later, actually. One day when Lily was having some sort of breakdown and posting about her suicidal ideation on her blog, Nellie reblogged her post from me with a possitive message. That's when Lily blocked her.

I am no longer friends with Nellie. But recently I reached out to ask for help/information regarding Lily's behaviour when they were friends and she said she didn't want to talk about Lily. She says she's still receiving messages on her blog about Lily, most of them hate. Which is weird because my fallout with Lily was way uglier and I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of hate messages I got but that's beside the point.

The point is Nellie wants to be left out of the conversation, but I still think it's important for everyone to know this wasn't the the positive experience they both want us to believe it was. It wasn't "amicable" as Lily put it, and it wasn't something Nellie did, like she originally said.

So we not wrong to say being friends with Lily is like...walking on fucking glass cause you never know when the fuck she'll decide your not friends anymore???

You're not wrong. This is 100% correct. I actually told Mikaila once that I felt like I had to walk on eggshells around Lily all the time because that's exactly what it feels like. The slightest thing can trigger a violent reaction from Lily. She once yelled at Nellie on a call for sighing too much. No, I am not joking. (again, running dungeons on WoW)

Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

However, Nellie quickly took down ALL of those several posts once LILY began posting her own hitpieces about how Nellie was apparently ‘just a vulture’ and was “never really her friend to begin with”. And basically just encouraging her own audience to go and mob Nellie’s blog with abuse/harassment with the not—so—subtle threat to Nellie that she would become Lily’s new public enemy number one if she DIDN’T quickly take down all of those posts. After that Nellie pretty much cut all ties with Lily and therefore also had to cut ties with (at least) most of her other friends.

Also, to make it absolutely clear, I really don't begrudge Nellie at all for taking down those posts. Lily has a massive audience of rabid fans that will swarm and harass ANYBODY that she tells them to, and I can only imagine how hard it was for Nellie to even stand up to just Lily after she had spent so much time being manipulated and gaslighted by her. I think that those original posts of hers are archived somewhere anyways, but I still want to make it clear that I harbor no ill will towards Nellie whatsoever. That she decided that she wasn’t in a safe position to tell her true experience of being around Lily publicly. I only hope that one day we WILL be able to get her full story of her toxic, abusive friendship with LO.

.....What the fuck??? So we not wrong to say being friends with Lily is like...walking on fucking glass cause you never know when the fuck she'll decide your not friends anymore??? And again, we seeing Lily use her fans against someone she doesn't like....I'm sorry, but people who use their fans to do shit like that is just gross to me and a definite concern for how much power Lily has over her fans.

I was on a call with Nellie, Lily and Mikaila when Lily snapped and cut ties with Nellie, so I know exactly what happened. I'm pretty sure Nellie never said Lily was toxic or abusive to her ever, especially on her blog. In fact, she lied about why Lily decided she didn't want to be friends anymore because she did not want Lily to think she was just another "vulture". That was always Nellie's main concern. Even when I told her the vile things Lily had said about me, her attitude was still "I can't help but try to see the good side in Lily".

I do remember Nellie briefly talking about why they stopped being friends on her blog, but I have no memory of the posts being negative towards Lily. If there were any then I completely missed them.

she was finally free from Lily’s control

I can confidently say this is 100% bullshit because Nellie never wanted to be free from Lily's control in the first place. For the longest time she harboured the hope of being accepted back into Lily's friend circle if she "was good" and was "behaving well". Lost track of how many times I and other friends have tried to tell her to let the fuck go!

Lily hated that Nellie was further along/more successful in her transition that Lily was

This is probably half-true? Lily was jealous of Nellie's voice. She banned Nellie from appearing in her streams because she was uncomfortable by how feminine Nellie's voice sounded compared to hers.

this eventually culminated in Lily completely ghosting Nellie and banning/blocking her from her Tumblr blog and Discord Server

Lily didn't ghost Nellie. Nellie was probably one of the few people Lily bothered to say anything to before blocking tbh. I debated for a long time on whether or not I should tell this story but you know what? Fuck it. Here it goes.

Remember that time Lily had a breakdown on the Dark Lady server over no one being available at a moment's notice to raid on Warcraft with her? Nellie and I felt bad for her, so we both started to level up and gear up our characters to join her. For that effect, one day we got together to do dungeons and asked Lily if she wanted to join us. Lily agreed and brought Mikaila to play too. But Lily being Lily said she despised the dungeons from the new expansion (which were the ones we needed to do in order to actually raid with her...). So us, being the doormats we were, let her pick what dungeons we should run. She picked one from WotLK where Sylvanas appears.

So we're on a Discord call together and Lily asks Nellie to be the tank because she was playing a warrior. But Nellie was pretty new to playing a warrior and was only familiar with the DPS spec, so she was trying to figure out how tanking worked on the go.

We go in, kill like 2 mobs. Then Lily suddenly says "I really don't wanna do this", leaves the call and logs out of the game. Mikaila sighs, apologizes for her and leaves too. A couple of minutes later Nellie says Lily messaged her saying "I don't want to be around you anymore" and has a breakdown over losing her Val'kyr title on the Dark Lady server and being removed from the Friends & Family chat in Lily's patreon server.

I remained on a call with Nellie until she cried herself to sleep. I went to bed after 8am.

Later, this is what Lily had to say about it when I asked:

Which, you know, is fine. It's valid. No one should be forced to socialize with someone they don't like. I just feel like there was a better way and time to handle the issue... The way she did it was just cruel.

The blocking didn't come until later, actually. One day when Lily was having some sort of breakdown and posting about her suicidal ideation on her blog, Nellie reblogged her post from me with a possitive message. That's when Lily blocked her.

I am no longer friends with Nellie. But recently I reached out to ask for help/information regarding Lily's behaviour when they were friends and she said she didn't want to talk about Lily. She says she's still receiving messages on her blog about Lily, most of them hate. Which is weird because my fallout with Lily was way uglier and I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of hate messages I got but that's beside the point.

The point is Nellie wants to be left out of the conversation, but I still think it's important for everyone to know this wasn't the the positive experience they both want us to believe it was. It wasn't "amicable" as Lily put it, and it wasn't something Nellie did, like she originally said.

So we not wrong to say being friends with Lily is like...walking on fucking glass cause you never know when the fuck she'll decide your not friends anymore???

You're not wrong. This is 100% correct. I actually told Mikaila once that I felt like I had to walk on eggshells around Lily all the time because that's exactly what it feels like. The slightest thing can trigger a violent reaction from Lily. She once yelled at Nellie on a call for sighing too much. No, I am not joking. (again, running dungeons on WoW)

Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

There are a few other posts but I think these two are the most important and tell the whole story.

However, Nellie quickly took down ALL of those several posts once LILY began posting her own hitpieces about how Nellie was apparently ‘just a vulture’ and was “never really her friend to begin with”. And basically just encouraging her own audience to go and mob Nellie’s blog with abuse/harassment with the not—so—subtle threat to Nellie that she would become Lily’s new public enemy number one if she DIDN’T quickly take down all of those posts. After that Nellie pretty much cut all ties with Lily and therefore also had to cut ties with (at least) most of her other friends.

Also, to make it absolutely clear, I really don't begrudge Nellie at all for taking down those posts. Lily has a massive audience of rabid fans that will swarm and harass ANYBODY that she tells them to, and I can only imagine how hard it was for Nellie to even stand up to just Lily after she had spent so much time being manipulated and gaslighted by her. I think that those original posts of hers are archived somewhere anyways, but I still want to make it clear that I harbor no ill will towards Nellie whatsoever. That she decided that she wasn’t in a safe position to tell her true experience of being around Lily publicly. I only hope that one day we WILL be able to get her full story of her toxic, abusive friendship with LO.

.....What the fuck??? So we not wrong to say being friends with Lily is like...walking on fucking glass cause you never know when the fuck she'll decide your not friends anymore??? And again, we seeing Lily use her fans against someone she doesn't like....I'm sorry, but people who use their fans to do shit like that is just gross to me and a definite concern for how much power Lily has over her fans.

I was on a call with Nellie, Lily and Mikaila when Lily snapped and cut ties with Nellie, so I know exactly what happened. I'm pretty sure Nellie never said Lily was toxic or abusive to her ever, especially on her blog. In fact, she lied about why Lily decided she didn't want to be friends anymore because she did not want Lily to think she was just another "vulture". That was always Nellie's main concern. Even when I told her the vile things Lily had said about me, her attitude was still "I can't help but try to see the good side in Lily".

I do remember Nellie briefly talking about why they stopped being friends on her blog, but I have no memory of the posts being negative towards Lily. If there were any then I completely missed them.

she was finally free from Lily’s control

I can confidently say this is 100% bullshit because Nellie never wanted to be free from Lily's control in the first place. For the longest time she harboured the hope of being accepted back into Lily's friend circle if she "was good" and was "behaving well". Lost track of how many times I and other friends have tried to tell her to let the fuck go!

Lily hated that Nellie was further along/more successful in her transition that Lily was

This is probably half-true? Lily was jealous of Nellie's voice. She banned Nellie from appearing in her streams because she was uncomfortable by how feminine Nellie's voice sounded compared to hers.

this eventually culminated in Lily completely ghosting Nellie and banning/blocking her from her Tumblr blog and Discord Server

Lily didn't ghost Nellie. Nellie was probably one of the few people Lily bothered to say anything to before blocking tbh. I debated for a long time on whether or not I should tell this story but you know what? Fuck it. Here it goes.

Remember that time Lily had a breakdown on the Dark Lady server over no one being available at a moment's notice to raid on Warcraft with her? Nellie and I felt bad for her, so we both started to level up and gear up our characters to join her. For that effect, one day we got together to do dungeons and asked Lily if she wanted to join us. Lily agreed and brought Mikaila to play too. But Lily being Lily said she despised the dungeons from the new expansion (which were the ones we needed to do in order to actually raid with her...). So us, being the doormats we were, let her pick what dungeons we should run. She picked one from WotLK where Sylvanas appears.

So we're on a Discord call together and Lily asks Nellie to be the tank because she was playing a warrior. But Nellie was pretty new to playing a warrior and was only familiar with the DPS spec, so she was trying to figure out how tanking worked on the go.

We go in, kill like 2 mobs. Then Lily suddenly says "I really don't wanna do this", leaves the call and logs out of the game. Mikaila sighs, apologizes for her and leaves too. A couple of minutes later Nellie says Lily messaged her saying "I don't want to be around you anymore" and has a breakdown over losing her Val'kyr title on the Dark Lady server and being removed from the Friends & Family chat in Lily's patreon server.

I remained on a call with Nellie until she cried herself to sleep. I went to bed after 8am.

Later, this is what Lily had to say about it when I asked:

Which, you know, is fine. It's valid. No one should be forced to socialize with someone they don't like. I just feel like there was a better way and time to handle the issue... The way she did it was just cruel.

The blocking didn't come until later, actually. One day when Lily was having some sort of breakdown and posting about her suicidal ideation on her blog, Nellie reblogged her post from me with a possitive message. That's when Lily blocked her.

I am no longer friends with Nellie. But recently I reached out to ask for help/information regarding Lily's behaviour when they were friends and she said she didn't want to talk about Lily. She says she's still receiving messages on her blog about Lily, most of them hate. Which is weird because my fallout with Lily was way uglier and I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of hate messages I got but that's beside the point.

The point is Nellie wants to be left out of the conversation, but I still think it's important for everyone to know this wasn't the the positive experience they both want us to believe it was. It wasn't "amicable" as Lily put it, and it wasn't something Nellie did, like she originally said.

So we not wrong to say being friends with Lily is like...walking on fucking glass cause you never know when the fuck she'll decide your not friends anymore???

You're not wrong. This is 100% correct. I actually told Mikaila once that I felt like I had to walk on eggshells around Lily all the time because that's exactly what it feels like. The slightest thing can trigger a violent reaction from Lily. She once yelled at Nellie on a call for sighing too much. No, I am not joking. (again, running dungeons on WoW)

Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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