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MORE book recs for those who watched 1987's Near Dark and said "It could be that deep" or "I love this and it would be so good if it was good."
More information and links for each below the cut.
The Country Under Heaven by Frederic S. Durbin: Weird Western, told through the eyes of a Civil War vet, (a UNION vet, believe it or not) as he travels the American west after the war, encountering common tropes of the genre applied to scenarios more commonly found in Weird Fiction than then Weird Western shoot off.
Wild Blood by Nancy A. Collins: if you thought the pack from Jones's Mongrels wasn't rough enough, or if you found the vampires in Near Dark too family oriented, Collins has the blood-thirsty, violent, sadistic werewolves you're looking for. This one might have the most triggers out of the list, Collins is like that.
Stainless by Todd Grimson: Neo-noir set in Los Angeles in the 1990s, following an ex-rockstar turned vampire's servant, and the vampire woman who bit him. Gnarly and pitch-black, a (thankfully) newly reprinted classic both in vampire fiction and gothic fiction (as in the subculture, not Gothic fiction as in Radcliff, Lewis, Wollstonecraft-Shelly, Poe, et al.)
The Vampire Tapestry by Suzy McKee Charnas: vampirism as a biological condition but at least it makes an iota of fucking sense (opposed to the insta-cure in Near Dark). Professor Weyland (I know) attempts to live and work amongst humans, his semi-sympathetic nature is one familiar to horror readers yet subtly unique.
Red Rabbit by Alex Grecian: another Weird Western, this one is technically billed as 'Folk Horror' and I can see where that comes from. A growing cast of misfit bounty hunters going after a witch who's wanted dead. Set in the midwest after the Civil War, but populated by all sorts of monsters and magic.
West of Sundown by Tim Seely : This is The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen set in the old west. It's pulpy, over the top, and unfortunately this delightful hot mess is only two collected volumes. I wouldn't trade any body parts for a third installment, because...it's not good exactly, but I enjoyed the whole experience.
Maria the Wanted by V. Castro: Yes, this is another vampire origin story, but it wastes little time in the title character realizing what she's become. Castro has become a fixture in horror in the past ten years, her work delving into cultural and generational trauma, the physical pain of grief, and using the genre to engage audiences with the realities of the violence and atrocities visited on the bodies and souls of immigrants and women.
Dead Man's Hand by Nancy A. Collins: Yes, she's here three times. Two Weird Western horror novellas and three short stories.
A Whisper of Blood edited by Ellen Datlow: technically this is two books in one and just named for one of them: Blood is Not Enough and A Whisper of Blood are the two vampire-specific horror collections by genre mainstay editor Ellen Datlow. One volume collects atypical vampire stories by a wide cast of horror and sf&f writers, the other volume does as well but specifically about vampires who consume something other than blood.
Sunglasses At Night by Nancy A. Collins: the first of the Sonja Blue series, a punk-goth classic, a crossover eventually with the TTRPG Vampire: the Masquerade, and one of the foundational works of urban fantasy. Vicious, nasty, violent, concepts that seem tired now were first introduced here. Without Sonja there's no Anita Blake, no Sookie Stackhouse, no Mercy Thompson, and no Buffy Summers.
HONORABLE MENTION:
The Postman Always Rings Twice by James Cain: okay, hear me out, here's a story with a slow start that then descends into hell with a wild ending where it feels like the criminals die because the narrative declared they couldn't live. Our killers could survive by other means, but they choose violence, they feel entitled to it. Diamondback's actress cited the story as how she envisioned her character's origins--I might write that version at some point. .
As always, these are all adult horror titles, please research any triggers. Of this lot, I own all titles, and have read all but 2.5 of them. I purposefully avoided giving personal opinions on titles because taste varies. Please support authors and independent bookstores: some of these titles are out of print, and that's what libraries are for. Authors do no make enough money to live on unless they're Stephen King, and if you ever wonder why an author you adored never wrote more, odds are they were dropped from their contract for bad sales, or else literally could not afford the time to write another book and also support themselves financially, and the industry is only getting worse.
US WRITERS MAKE MORE MONEY FROM LIBRARIES THAN WE DO FROM AMAZON, TARGET, WALMART, OR ANY BIG BOX STORE. Buy from an indie book seller, buy from any book-specific store (B&N, BAM, Waterstones, 2nd & Charles, etc), and if you can't purchase then BORROW IT FROM THE LIBRARY.
Books are not multi-million dollar movies, or tv shows that Netflix refuses to put out on physical. End rant.
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I think you've mentioned studying the American Civil War in an academic context. I would love to hear your thoughts on Jesse being a Confederate soldier in the 1980's.
We don't know why he fought in the war, his thoughts on the conflict or wars in general, his thoughts on slavery or race, but I think that the fact that he keeps the Confederate flag so near and dear means that he might have a romanticized view of the South.
Also, we don't know Diamondback's thoughts, either. Whatever he thinks, she either doesn't mind or shares his opinions, seeing how they love each other and are pretty much married.
This isn't an "oh god the vampires are problematic #cancelthem" ask, btw! I am genuinely curious about this and about old vampires and how their worldview changes with time or doesn't.
Much appreciated presentation of the question, because it is interesting, and while the parasitism is kind of an obvious metaphor*, the constant repetition in media of 'vampire with a confederate uniform in the closet' is something I'd really like to revisit academically for a paper, or in fiction---I've gotten three asks (two on this blog and one on main) asking me in a 'got-ya' tone about Jesse's backstory.
First, a few notes:
-----I'm not academic necessarily about the Civil War, I've just been doing a lot of armchair historian reading.** There's some irony that a year ago I said regarding the long-fic ''Jesse will not be getting flashback chapters because I can't be fucked to read for more than 5 minutes about the Confederate Navy'' and then I ended up reading multiple books that included a lot more than five minutes worth of reading.
-------Not an excuse, but there’s a history of the final confederate flag (the blue ‘x’ on red field; the ‘stars and bars’ flag—there were a few earlier designs first) being used as shorthand for rebellion against any establishment, for punk; used north and south as a fashion piece. It was just as wrong in the 80s and 90s as it is today but it was a lot more common to see. In the context of the movie, it means that Caleb on seeing this crowd would’ve seen Jesse, and given his companions are wearing a leather jacket covered in patches and the other is in a corset (and wearing a harness??? even though it has her knife in it that's still??) and figured 'old punk' before ‘dead civil war guys,’
-------Anything I saw on these characters is in regards to them as fictional. They’re serial killers and vile people, but they’re also not real.
A bit of historical background: The most 'well that's not what I expected' thing I learned about the outbreak of the war was that the south didn't even try to hide what "State's Rights" meant. Like at all. Who was it that said Americans think of themselves as "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" to explain why so many lower class and working class people vote for those who refuse to tax the rich? That. Even though the system of slavery had lead to a south with little industry of its own, farms that raised cash crops instead of sustenance, directly lead to extreme divide between the wealthy class and the poor AND to a severe lack of education compared to the free states---southerners of all classes were ready to fight for their rich neighbor to be legally allowed to own humans. Meanwhile in the north? The north was no less racist. Delaware (most who chose to fight chose to fight for the Union, and the state remained in the Union) and Maryland (more evenly split, Union but considered 'neutral') were slave states. The north weren't fighting to end slavery, the vast majority were fighting to preserve the Union, fighting for the abstract concept of the flag after it was taken down at Fort Sumter, many were fighting because it meant a paycheck. After the war officially started, most of the fighting was in the south--what southerners weren't convinced to fight for slavery were willing to fight ''Yankee invaders.'' The Federal Army (term used at the time) did not acknowledge the Confederate States as a separate country, and therefore their presence was not an invasion. One of the many reasons Gettysburg was a turning point was because the south could no longer claim that they were only defending themselves.
As for Jesse’s level of involvement? Let’s go with Lance’s version of the character’s backstory, just as Bill’s is usually taken into consideration for Severen’s, and to a lesser extent Jenette’s for Diamondback’s. His concept of the character was that he was originally from Virginia, in the Confederate navy, and after a night battle with a Union ship, where his was completely destroyed, he washed up on the shoreline of [he’s said alternately the Delaware Bay and the Chesapeake Bay] and was turned into a vampire by some harpy/siren-like monster. The character believed it was an act of pity or mercy—even though Jesse remains (per Kathryn’s writing and what she told him as part of her directing) the only one of the clan who doesn’t see vampirism as living, as a life, only attempting to continue an existence. I’d disagree, and think that Homer has more hatred for it than Jesse, and far more reason to, but it’s FASCINATING to have this character who finds what he is as something less than alive, who then made the two people who matter most to him into that same thing. Severen is (per actor and writer/director) the only character without any regrets, he’s the vampire’s vampire; Diamondback’s romantic view was an ‘’impossible life that destiny had in store’’ for her.
Jesse doesn't talk like he was any kind of scholar in his own era; he probably knew how to read and write, but I doubt he would’ve been in any formal schooling into his teen years if any. If he lived along the coastline directly, and was in the Confederate Navy, he likely had to start as a ship owner or at least close with one/working directly under the ship owner as the captain—if I remember correctly, Lance mentioned at some point that the captain had been killed, which made Jesse captain? I could be wrong. At the outbreak of the war, the Federal navy’s ships were either thousands of miles away or not seaworthy. They had about 80-90. Not great. Meanwhile, the Confederate navy did not exist. When it started they had eleven boats. Not ships. Boats. Clippers, schooners, oyster boats, were all used as blockade runners and Jefferson Davis started issuing letters of marque—which actually led to more legal issues. Because the north didn’t acknowledge the south as a separate country but as an unconstitutional rebellion (the constitution allowed for rebellion under specific conditions only, which the north declared were not what was going on), they did not recognize Davis as a president, therefore did not recognize letters of marques issued by him as legal, which meant confederate privateers were legally pirates in the north.
I’m assuming Jesse was on one of the privateer vessels, and for my own sanity in the prequel fic, I “killed” him off early in the war because frankly in a fanfic I’m writing for fun I didn’t want to get too deep into the psychology of someone who was fine with fighting for the south.
Given that the line where Jesse says ‘’I fought for the south…We lost” was, in the original script, meant to be an emotional beat, the character staring off into the distance, but in the final cut he laughs it off as a joke, I can’t see that he had any particular patriotism or political conviction. Some of the boys (on both sides!) at Bull Run/First Manassas only showed up to fight because it sounded like the “most exciting” thing that would ever happen in their lives—but Jesse wasn’t a boy; he was a grown adult in his mid/late 40s (Lance I think you’re hot but let’s be real here, he could also have been in his 50s). He had to know to some extent what he was doing.
And if he wasn’t necessarily invested enough in the war as a whole to not care that his side lost, I can’t imagine he was invested much in any way or another. He’s probably extremely racist (given the time periods we know they’re from, its likely all three of the adult-appearing vampires are) but I doubt he ever had anyone enslaved on his property, if he even had property; he definitely would have seen slavery regularly, especially if he worked at a harbor or a port*** as part of daily routine.
As for a romanticized view of the past, I doubt he has any more nostalgia than anyone has for the world they grew up in---if he can even remember it. Jesse would’ve sat through all three saccharine hours of Gone with the Wind at a drive-in with Diamondback and rolled his eyes at the petty issues of the rich; he would’ve hated Ashley, Scarlett, and despite sharing a career (or at least a partial one) with Brett, he’d find him repulsive too. Not resentment for their wealth, but distaste for what their entire concept.
Based on him making a joke of it; I wrote him as being one of the people who didn’t really give a damn about what was going on****, but war brought the blockade to his waters, would’ve ended whatever trade he was doing (I grew up right in the middle of the Chesapeake and Delaware Bays and Philadelphia, the farther south you go, anyone who can afford a cheap, shitty little boat fishes, for sustenance, sale, and/or pastime—so I wrote him as fishing). He might’ve started as a blockade runner before the fighting grew more serious, or vice versa. Coastal waters are notoriously rough, the little coves and inlets that runners would’ve used had shoals that changed daily with the tides and unless you have spent years sailing a locale like that, you’ll never get through without beaching your boat—and any deep hulled cargo ship, you can forget it. Oyster boats, shallow Baltimore Clippers—ships that were light and fast and difficult to sail in deep water, requiring skill to manage; these would’ve been what the privateers were using, the runners getting vital medication and food, or even luxury products for the wealthy that would've made them a higher profit in past Union ships.
Diamondback, despite being from the Great Depression (per Jeanette’s story from when Kathryn asked the cast to come up with histories for their characters), would’ve seen things like Gone with the Wind¸ Belle Starr, and Jezebel as escapism, not something to compare to reality at all. If she ever thinks too deeply about Jesse’s past or politics, it starts and ends with ‘’He was a pirate ; ) “ because here’s the thing. She’s the only one who chose this.
Diamondback chose to become a requisite serial killer. She found a chance to live forever with someone she fell in love with and decided that that was worth every life they’d ever have to take. I don’t think she would’ve given a fuck what his past was, because a) that was the past, and b) she’s selfish. She’s either decided that fate chose this for her by having her path cross Jesse’s and either that absolves her or she doesn’t care. She’s terrifying. She’s the one playing games—she’s the one who saw the waitress at the bar first. Jesse harassing the waitress was after Diamondback reached for her knife, his bad lines and maneuvering of the woman were getting her in place for Diamondback to kill.
*not enough American vampire media really gets into the parasitism of colonization in the first place.
**I ended up reading a lot on the Civil War after realizing I needed more context for other reading I was doing (Louisa May Alcott's work under pennames mostly, but also some of Hawthorne's later stuff, and Henry David Thoreau) because 1849-1880sish was an era I hadn't read much on for US history since grade school. Then I didn't make it to Salem for my spring road trip, so I did a shorter road trip to Gettysburg, just a couple hours instead, and reading more on that before and after going, realizing it's not a long drive and going out there a lot this summer to go hiking, also loving the weird little town, and now possibly getting involved in reenactment.
***The import of humans for enslavement was outlawed long before this time. Think what that means about how the trade managed to continue.
****This was less to make him ''better'' (because the Civil War is definitely one of those things were not picking a side, not caring, is still making a political statement and still in the wrong) than it was to highlight the fact that none of vampires even in their mortal life really cared about others or even the world beyond themselves.
I've started heeding your advice (reading 2 star reviews before reading a new book) and it has saved me a lot of time. Turns out 2 star reviews are a great way to find out if a book is for you. Thanks!
It's not the end all method, or even the only one, but yeah; I've found it a lot easier to find people being honest in the 2 stars than the 1 or 3, regardless of the review site you're looking at. Glad it helped you!
Yours truly got thru a who damned episode of tales from the crypt without noticeing that one of the guys was lance henrikson in a WWI get up (which usually would be something embarrassing my subconscious would summon in a dream when i got to bed way too late) but i didnt notice because my whole personal backstory with WWI studies is because of a dead friend and I spent half the episode crying, 1/4 trying to figure out if i was insane or if i knew 3 of the actors from somewhere or not, and 1/4 bitching about the inaccuracies of the uniforms bc at some point i became the Military History Dad (gender neutral) out of my friend group.
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If you had to rank 80s vampire movies, how would you rank them? Near Dark and The Hunger are my faves. I don't like The Lost Boys as much as most people do, but I do think it's neat. And I hate Fright Night lmao so those are my hot takes
I've been asked somw variant of this a few timea but honestly I don't like ranking them because "vampire" isn't a genre but an extremely malleable plot device, and they're all so different that I wouldn't even know what metric to rate them on. I will say I'd rewatch Fright Night again before Once Bitten though because that one was bad and should feel bad.
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