Robins - It sucks. But how many are surprised?
He canât even get their origin stories right. Which for this specific project shouldâve been the first thing researched.
Tim Seeley gave Dick, Tim Drakeâs spiel about Robin AGAIN, because this isnât the first time Tim Seeley has gotten this wrongâmonths apart, but he just never cared to correct himself on an inaccuracy and double downed on it. Not a thing good writers do.
Like come oooon. Heâs such a bad writer for the Robins. Itâs like he did the research a few years ago but couldnât remember it well.
Itâs like babyâs first fan fiction, not from a guy whoâs worked for the company for years. Why does DC set their standards so low? If someone showed me this, they were a fan letâs say, and this was their first fan fiction. Iâd be proud of them and give them pointers on what they got wrong. Like which trait belongs to which Robin and such. Theyâre just starting after all.
But thisâŚthis guy is a veteran writer nowâŚthis is embarrassing. I feel embarrassed reading it. Second-hand-embarrassment is this things tone, and not on purposeâŚ
Wasnât Robin Dickâs motherâs name for him? And here they got Dick saying he didnât know who made it. (Though, maybe they mean as an actual sidekick? But I feel like that should be specified given the name and the role have two different origins as far as Iâm aware.)
Itâs all written like Tim Seeley was given a summary of the Robins and looked through a few things but didnât know for sure where what traits belonged. WhenâŚheâs worked with the company for years, and has even written all of these characters previously.
Like straight up Tim Seeley said Tim Drake DEMANDED to be Robin. I donât think Tim Seeley researched Tim Drake AT ALL.Â
(Unless heâs still under the belief that Tim still has his New 52 originâbut heâd have to be so blind to stuff happening as he worked for that company for that to happen. But I guess regardless thatâs just also adding to that second-hand-embarrassment thing I was talking about.)
Tim Drake went to Dick for DICK to be Robin again, and only chose himself to be Robin after Dick wouldnât do it. He didnât go in there DEMANDING for it cause it was his dream, it was his dream, but thatâs not why. Itâs literally written as so in Tim Drakeâs origin. I think he even says out loud he didnât come to them asking to be Robin.
Then Tim Seeley acts like Jason LIKED doing crimes and was a bad kid. When he became Robin because HE TRIED STOPPING A CRIME AND BATMAN SAW THAT AND ADMIRED IT.
THATâS IN HIS POST-CRISIS ORIGIN STORY TOO. SO DID TIM SEELEY NOT READ THAT EITHER?
And the story is so cheesy, and thinly written on top of that. Itâs idea of deep would embarrass even children if theyâre self-aware enough. I donât see any one going away like âOoooh, the character!â, because theyâre all so flat. They go around saying their issuesâŚbut the issues donât actually match the characters. Tim Seeley just started randomly applying stuff to them.
I feel a series like this, is only good, and what I think itâs actually trying to be, if itâs a character study. But you HAVE to legitimately know and understand the characters to do that. Tim Seeley doesnât seem to understand these characters at all besides the thinnest of traits.
The main reason I canât say what they did anything wrong about Damian? Cause all he says is âI WAS BORN TO BE ROBINâ. Heâs just one traitââassholeâ, which I get is a common Damian trait, and probably his main one to most, but thatâs so one dimensional, and they are all. Thatâs more of a trait then Tim or Steph get I guess. But when I canât complain a lot about him, is because heâs just so barely written at all is just horrid. Tim Seeley sort of does that thing where he gives Damian a childish interest thatâs so random again (in this case chocolate cereal. Which isnât much, but isnât he specific about his diet? Itâs one of those things that are so small, but still just show enough that Tim Seeley isnât the man for this kind of job. Like why even bother doing something so small you should be able to tell right away isnât right?), but I guess itâs his way of being endearing? When to me itâs just likeâdude, just write the characters as they are. Stop being weird about it. They have their own personalities, stop randomly adding stuff and swapping it, it doesnât work.
I guess they do say Damianâs the only one that thought of Robin as a training thing butâŚDick did too lol. Thatâs why he took Robin away from Tim, who did not think of it as a training thing. Which contributed to that whole awkward piece of comic that everyone makes out to make at least one of them (most often Dick) a villain. (Not saying Dick shouldâve done it, but, anyone that acts like heâs a villain needs to rethink what a villain is.)
Steph they treat like she was given the role, and not justâliterally asked for it and only got taken abroad to make Tim jealous (or something to that effect, cause it was around then the writing in the Bat-Family really got bad. Batman stopped being a caring figure, and just an emotionless freak). Itâs a bad storyline I know, but from what Iâve been told, that IS what happened. Like they say Tim demanded itâwhen he only asked cause Dick wouldnât and he was the only one there, but wonât say Steph didâwhen sheâs the one that actually DID demand it. ButâŚwhy?? I think Steph lied to Cass about what happenedâbut thatâs not what actually happened. Bruce didnât choose her. Itâs like when Dixon would act like Tim didnât go right to Bruceâs face, and was chosen randomly instead.
Tim Seeley even gave Dick the Dungeons and Dragons references, when Tim Drake is the one who played that game. Tim Seeley has no idea whoâs interests go where going off of this.
Weirdly enough on the art side of it though, Tim Drake is the only one I think is drawn wellâwhich is a positive in itâs on way, but not really, cause that still implies everyone else is drawn bad.Â
Actually no, I looked back at it before I nearly hit âpostâ and I take it back. It really depends on the panel. The artist gave them all these weird tired eyes that I just do not like.
In costume theyâre fine, but they second theyâre out of costume theyâreâŚjust weirdly drawn. Imagine the most basic white girl, and thatâs how they drew Stephanie. Jason they make look psychotic (is he okay with what happened now or is he not? I feel like they went back and forth on this). Dick is justâthey just drew him really weird.
Itâs not good art, thatâs all I can really say.
I know some people say itâs all up to the artist what they look like, but honestly, there really was a time they tried a lot harder to be consistent, while keeping it in their own art styles. They just stopped caring a while ago, and thatâs about it.
They brought back my favorite Timmy Drake costume! Which is cool to meâŚbut if itâs the only place heâs wearing itâŚthen it doesnât really fit continuity wise, which sadly makes itâs inclusion, as much as I like the costume, not good. I canât pretend otherwise, cause that wouldnât be very honest of me.
Like look at it like this, the writing regardless of the characters is really bad, itâs thin and messy, it gets no where till the last few pages, it seems to try and be deep but fails miserably, and spends too much on an opening fight scene that isnât particularly exciting, the characters are written totally inaccurately making the point of the comic to begin with null, and the art is sloppy at best. It is just a horrendously put together comic. Thatâs the simplest way I can say it.
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