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no i don't think those characters are siblings i think they're friends. I don't think that's their mom I actually think she's their friend. I don't think they're related actually I think they're friends with each other.

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Me here with another susldunarya post:
Think it's a tiny bit messed up that Thuviel was encouraged by the eldunarya to blow himself up. Because yeah, letting a likely very depressed rider, who recently lost his partner, kill himself is totally the way to go.
And then that only worked to wipe out most of the remaining Order and wild dragons, but merely one forsworn pair.
AND then they pushed another rider to blow himself up (don't say that they couldn't have expected that; Galbatorix had the levels of dramatics, depression and skill for it), while the two new riders and another soon-to-be rider were present. One might think that the eldunarya want to eradicate the riders.
You make some good points! It is very messed up and kinda suspicious.
Also, I don't remember if I've seen you mention this in another post, but Umaroth (or however that's spelled) is also kind of sus. Instead of Warning Murtagh AND Eragon about the Draumar so they could know what they were in for and deal with the threat together instead he just gave Murtagh and Thorn some vague ass warning about avoiding certain places. Which inevitably sent them on a quest to figure out what's going on, and going into it completely unprepared, almost as if Umaroth wanted Murtagh and Thorn to end up in Bachel's clutches and be enslaved by her to serve the Draumar. Sure, Murtagh technically had multiple opportunities to turn around and contact Eragon and Arya for help, but still. Telling someone to not go somewhere feels like a good way to ensure that they'll be tempted to check it out. And if I remember correctly, Murtagh wants to question Umaroth about it. If the Eldunarí really wanted the Draumar to be dealt with, why not give a proper warning?
That! Yes! I think I only tacked it onto another post before (or was it a whole post? Something about the old Order/eldunarya using the draumar as a shredder for Riders and dragons they dislike), because Murtagh and Thorn being baited to go north, also reminds me a lot of what happened to Galbatorix and his friends. They were sent north by the Order, which knew about the threat of the draumar, but they didn't warn the group about that. And considering how Murtagh killed all those Urgals, which turned out to be an illusion and to be just humans, I always wondered if those Urgals who attacked Galbatorix, Jarnunvösk and their friends actually were simply draumar warded by an illusion. The urgals were already hated back then, no one would have questioned it. A group of humans and dwarves attacking riders and dragons would have had far more of an echo.
It gives the strong suspicion that the eldunarya wanted Murtagh and Thorn dead. And if Murtagh would have survived alone, they would likely have pulled the 'oh no he's gonna be the next Galbatorix' - card.
Can't forget the almost inevitably of dragons and riders going a little insane about losing their partner. And a lot of the eldunarya lost their riders. (Interesting point here is also that the 'kinder' pointer for the spell Eragon used against Torix came from a wild dragon. While the bonded ones just kept saying to hurry up and kill him. And I still think that the eldunarya adding to the spell turned it into the torture spell it basically was, forcing Galbatorix to end himself. Perhaps also because Galbatorix could have said something about the draumar?) And perhaps it also was the eldunarya wanting to get some messed up 'revenge' on Morzan, by getting Murtagh killed. This is more of a hc, but I think that Morzan and Murtagh are similar in that if thwy are told to not ho somewhere, they'll def go there; meaning that Glaedr could have stepped in there too. But then again, Murtagh kind of killed Oromis (not really, but I didn’t get the impression that Glaedr did the logical thing and only blamed Galbatorix who steered Murtagh’s body at that moment.)
Ohh yeah it is reminiscent of what happened with Galbatorix now that you mentioned it! It's definitely likely there is even more to that story than what we've been told. Would be interesting if it turned out it was the Draumar who attacked Galbatorix and the others 🤔
Either they wanted him dead, OR they wanted them to end up under Bachel's control, I mean she sure had a lot of ideas of what she could achieve with Murtagh and Thorn. What if the eldunarya (or some of them) subscribe to the Draumar's ideology, and want the same fate they envision for the world, or something like it? Although, wanting him dead for some sort of revenge or other reason isn't unlikely either, I suppose!
It is interesting that the kindness part of the spell came from a wild dragon, while the bonded ones urged Eragon to kill Galbatorix as fast as possible. It didn't strike me as weird when I read it, but now it has me wondering 🤔🤔 And yeah, good point that a lot of them have lost their riders! Surely that must impact them a lot.
Whatever it is, something surely has to be up with the eldunarya!
Also, do you think they are still affecting the events of the world, like they did with Eragon and Saphira's egg (and other things that I don't remember) 👀👀
(also, also, is that extra scene you mentioned in the tags in the deluxe edition of Murtagh, or where can one find that?👀)
If some of the eldunarya (or even more than just some) follow the draumar beliefs, it would be especially terrifying if they indeed still influence things. (I don't think I can remember everything they did either. I do remember them helping the thief steal Saphira’s egg yes and that the teleport magic landed it at his feet. Also that they influenced the dragon magic at the blood oath ceremony to give Eragon that boost. Think they also mentioned helping Brom kill some of the forsworn. There def are instances we don’t know about too I'd say.). I do feel like they maybe gone a bit back on that and now rather influence things by whispering into Eragon's ear. ... That actually just gave me the concerning memory of that scene in the rock of Kuthian, where they take over Eragon's body for a moment... uhm.... ._."
(The extra scene is in the deluxe version of Murtagh, yes. Super annoying, but I guess paolini wanted that extra money.)
It would be terrifying for sure! And right, that sounds familiar, I mostly remembered that they made Saphira's egg appear in front of Eragon instead of Brom, but everything else sounds familiar.
Yeah, they can just influence Eragon directly now 😬 Oof, Yeah, not great in retrospect.
This also reminds me of a bit in the Murtagh 2 sneak peek, where it's mentioned that Eragon isn't looking well, so something is definitely going on!
(Ughh, that book is very expensive! It's gorgeous, but I can't justify spending that money on a book I already technically have, right now)
Thank you @thexgrayxlady and @tonhalszendvics for pointing out that the susldunarya also know Eragon’s true name (and Saphira’s). I keep forgetting that big red flag.
Between the true names and Oromis basically beating what little curiosity he had out of him, the sus rocks have created a more useful and compliant tool than Galbatorix ever did to rebuild the order exactly how they see fit.
Me here with another susldunarya post:
Think it's a tiny bit messed up that Thuviel was encouraged by the eldunarya to blow himself up. Because yeah, letting a likely very depressed rider, who recently lost his partner, kill himself is totally the way to go.
And then that only worked to wipe out most of the remaining Order and wild dragons, but merely one forsworn pair.
AND then they pushed another rider to blow himself up (don't say that they couldn't have expected that; Galbatorix had the levels of dramatics, depression and skill for it), while the two new riders and another soon-to-be rider were present. One might think that the eldunarya want to eradicate the riders.
You make some good points! It is very messed up and kinda suspicious.
Also, I don't remember if I've seen you mention this in another post, but Umaroth (or however that's spelled) is also kind of sus. Instead of Warning Murtagh AND Eragon about the Draumar so they could know what they were in for and deal with the threat together instead he just gave Murtagh and Thorn some vague ass warning about avoiding certain places. Which inevitably sent them on a quest to figure out what's going on, and going into it completely unprepared, almost as if Umaroth wanted Murtagh and Thorn to end up in Bachel's clutches and be enslaved by her to serve the Draumar. Sure, Murtagh technically had multiple opportunities to turn around and contact Eragon and Arya for help, but still. Telling someone to not go somewhere feels like a good way to ensure that they'll be tempted to check it out. And if I remember correctly, Murtagh wants to question Umaroth about it. If the Eldunarí really wanted the Draumar to be dealt with, why not give a proper warning?
That! Yes! I think I only tacked it onto another post before (or was it a whole post? Something about the old Order/eldunarya using the draumar as a shredder for Riders and dragons they dislike), because Murtagh and Thorn being baited to go north, also reminds me a lot of what happened to Galbatorix and his friends. They were sent north by the Order, which knew about the threat of the draumar, but they didn't warn the group about that. And considering how Murtagh killed all those Urgals, which turned out to be an illusion and to be just humans, I always wondered if those Urgals who attacked Galbatorix, Jarnunvösk and their friends actually were simply draumar warded by an illusion. The urgals were already hated back then, no one would have questioned it. A group of humans and dwarves attacking riders and dragons would have had far more of an echo.
It gives the strong suspicion that the eldunarya wanted Murtagh and Thorn dead. And if Murtagh would have survived alone, they would likely have pulled the 'oh no he's gonna be the next Galbatorix' - card.
Can't forget the almost inevitably of dragons and riders going a little insane about losing their partner. And a lot of the eldunarya lost their riders. (Interesting point here is also that the 'kinder' pointer for the spell Eragon used against Torix came from a wild dragon. While the bonded ones just kept saying to hurry up and kill him. And I still think that the eldunarya adding to the spell turned it into the torture spell it basically was, forcing Galbatorix to end himself. Perhaps also because Galbatorix could have said something about the draumar?) And perhaps it also was the eldunarya wanting to get some messed up 'revenge' on Morzan, by getting Murtagh killed. This is more of a hc, but I think that Morzan and Murtagh are similar in that if thwy are told to not ho somewhere, they'll def go there; meaning that Glaedr could have stepped in there too. But then again, Murtagh kind of killed Oromis (not really, but I didn’t get the impression that Glaedr did the logical thing and only blamed Galbatorix who steered Murtagh’s body at that moment.)
Ohh yeah it is reminiscent of what happened with Galbatorix now that you mentioned it! It's definitely likely there is even more to that story than what we've been told. Would be interesting if it turned out it was the Draumar who attacked Galbatorix and the others 🤔
Either they wanted him dead, OR they wanted them to end up under Bachel's control, I mean she sure had a lot of ideas of what she could achieve with Murtagh and Thorn. What if the eldunarya (or some of them) subscribe to the Draumar's ideology, and want the same fate they envision for the world, or something like it? Although, wanting him dead for some sort of revenge or other reason isn't unlikely either, I suppose!
It is interesting that the kindness part of the spell came from a wild dragon, while the bonded ones urged Eragon to kill Galbatorix as fast as possible. It didn't strike me as weird when I read it, but now it has me wondering 🤔🤔 And yeah, good point that a lot of them have lost their riders! Surely that must impact them a lot.
Whatever it is, something surely has to be up with the eldunarya!
Also, do you think they are still affecting the events of the world, like they did with Eragon and Saphira's egg (and other things that I don't remember) 👀👀
(also, also, is that extra scene you mentioned in the tags in the deluxe edition of Murtagh, or where can one find that?👀)
If some of the eldunarya (or even more than just some) follow the draumar beliefs, it would be especially terrifying if they indeed still influence things. (I don't think I can remember everything they did either. I do remember them helping the thief steal Saphira’s egg yes and that the teleport magic landed it at his feet. Also that they influenced the dragon magic at the blood oath ceremony to give Eragon that boost. Think they also mentioned helping Brom kill some of the forsworn. There def are instances we don’t know about too I'd say.). I do feel like they maybe gone a bit back on that and now rather influence things by whispering into Eragon's ear. ... That actually just gave me the concerning memory of that scene in the rock of Kuthian, where they take over Eragon's body for a moment... uhm.... ._."
(The extra scene is in the deluxe version of Murtagh, yes. Super annoying, but I guess paolini wanted that extra money.)
It would be terrifying for sure! And right, that sounds familiar, I mostly remembered that they made Saphira's egg appear in front of Eragon instead of Brom, but everything else sounds familiar.
Yeah, they can just influence Eragon directly now 😬 Oof, Yeah, not great in retrospect.
This also reminds me of a bit in the Murtagh 2 sneak peek, where it's mentioned that Eragon isn't looking well, so something is definitely going on!
(Ughh, that book is very expensive! It's gorgeous, but I can't justify spending that money on a book I already technically have, right now)
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Picked up Divinity Original Sin 2 again to try and finish it and i forgot how much fun the teleport shenanigans really are.

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Hey guys! Sorry its been so inactive around here. I’m slowly but surely getting finished with my finals.
Anyway, I found this and thought I had to share. The way body language can tell how a person is really feeling is something that I consider very interesting. I think it would be a great way to show, in a subtle way, how a character is really feeing.
Hope its useful! And good luck with finals! Hopefully, this place will be a bit more active once summer kicks in.
ohhh my god I just fact-checked, Nolan actually DID cut the "Nobody" scene from his Odyssey movie. Mfer that is like cutting the Father reveal from Star Wars. Let me speak in a language you understand this is like not dressing Batman up in his suit. "It was not possible to work it in" the TikTok musical with a budget of $4 and a scratched Hamilton CD managed to work it in in SONG form, step up your FUCKING GAME
As someone who has written academic papers about the role of disguise and deceit in the Odyssey — Nobody is so damn important.
Prior to this point, when Odysseus tries to exercise Xenia (ancient Greek guest rites/hospitality code), he did what he was supposed to do. (Well, we think so anyway — notably, the most famous books of the Odyssey are told by Odysseus, who isn’t exactly a reliable narrator.)
But when Polyphemus kills and eats some of the men, the game changes. The Cyclops makes it clear he has no intention of abiding by Zeus’s laws, and will cannibalize the lot of the men. So, Odysseus responds in kind — he breaks Xenia and lies. He introduces himself under a false name as part of a trick. Polyphemus then breaks Xenia again — he tells Nobody he’ll be eaten last, and that is the Cyclops’ guest gift to him.
Odysseus’ transgression is clearly the lesser one. The Nobody trick works. It gets Odysseus and most of his crew out of the cave alive.
But, crucially, before leaving Odysseus sheds his disguise. He admits his true identity, in detail, so he can boast of his achievements and add vanquishing a Cyclops to the list. And it bites him in the ass spectacularly.
The only reason why Polyphemus can curse Odysseus, can bid his father Poseidon to curse the man who blinded him, is because he now knows who did it. If Odysseus had kept his mouth shut, he might have safely made it home from there. But while a big part of why the Nobody disguise vs. real name reveal is showing Odysseus’s hubris, it’s not just about that. It’s also about the start of a pattern that hurts him more than it helps him.
From this point in the Odyssey on, Odysseus lies about his identity constantly. And sometimes it protects him, but more often it’s a detriment or at least unnecessary. He’s lying about his identity primarily to people who are on his side — a kindly loyal swineherd, his son, his faithful wife, his ailing father.
The last one is especially damning, because happens when Odysseus has already killed the suitors and returned home and reunited with the rest of his family sans disguises. He knows from everyone else that Laertes never betrayed him or his legacy, but was mourning his son and heartbroken for almost a decade. Odysseus has publicly declared his return to everyone else — his father doesn’t know because he’s living in squalor remotely. But Odysseus doesn’t tell his father who he is. He makes up a fake identity and tells a story implying Laertes’ son is dead. And when Laertes bursts out crying, then Odysseus drops the charade and finally admits who he really was.
There was no utility to that lie. No loyalty to test. No hidden threats to worry about. But Odysseus still instinctively lies to his beloved father about who he is, only dropping the charade when he sees the damage it’s doing to his relationships.
Because at this point, lying is pathological for Odysseus. He can’t seem to stop doing it. Because with Polyphemus, a lie protected him and the truth hurt him. That is the point of the “ Nobody” disguise.
And they fucking cut it???
the phrase "but i didn't mean to!" in the context of causing harm is kind of redundant to me, because almost nobody means to cause harm. most of us just want to do the right thing. and i don't mean that in a wishy-washy "oh, we're all good deep down" way, i mean that even people who regularly do the most heinous shit imaginable will have a way of justifying it to themselves. the world is not populated by hollywood sadists and psychopaths.
actually i have been thinking about this some more and i want to add on to it:
abuse in caregiving professions (like teaching or nursing) is not solely a result of power dynamics. it's also because people who go into those professions often have a idea of themselves as Good People, and are consequently incapable of recognising or acknowledging when they've hurt someone else. instead, they mentally put 'people who have inconvenienced me' into the Bad People box so they can freely abuse them while maintaining their moral high ground.
i read ross greene a lot when i was working with "difficult" or "behaviourally challenged" children. his refrain is "kids do well if they can" - meaning, in short, that most kids act out only when the demands of a situation exceed their capabilities. punishing them for this is not only cruel but also completely pointless, because they also don't want to be doing what they are doing.
a teacher who believes that there are two categories of people - Good People who Mean Well, and Bad People who Cause Problems on Purpose - is not going to see it that way. they're gonna put themselves in the first category, and the misbehaving kid in the second category. and once they have effectively depersoned the child and placed themselves on a pedestal, the world becomes simple again. because abuse is something that only Bad People do.

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“I never noticed your eyes were this [colour].”
“Your heartbeat’s really loud.”
“You asleep?”
“I like this, being so close to you.”
“Your hair keeps falling into your eyes, do you know that? Here, lemme just—”
“You’re so, so, so pretty.”
“I just — I’m breathless, okay? Whenever I’m with you, it happens.”
“You make my heart beat so quick.”
“You always know how to make me smile.”
“You’ll always be safe with me.”
[Kisses the other on the cheek]
“Always.”
“I can’t imagine being anywhere but here with you.”
“All my choices lead me to you.”
“I’ll never give you up.”
“I sleep better if you’re around.”
“You snore in your sleep. But… it’s adorable, okay?”
“I like this. A quiet breakfast with you.”
“There’re billions of people on this planet, and I love you. How incredible is that?”
“I trust you.”
[Holds the other’s hand when they think the other won’t notice]
“You keep staring at me instead of watching the film. What’s up?”
“Let’s push all of these stuff away. I wanna dance here right now with you.”
“Are we really doing this? Are we really slow-dancing?”
“When you laugh like that, it just — you’re so beautiful, you know that?”
“No, sorry, you laughed. I … I never saw it before. It’s — pretty.”
“You haven’t laughed in a long time, and I guess I was staring ‘cause I forgot how that looked like.”
[Puts head on the other’s shoulder]
“I will never let you go.”
“You’re the best thing to have ever happened to me.”
“You wrote me a song?”
“You’ve got a fever. Of course I’m not going anywhere.”
[Suddenly feels around the bed to search for the other’s hand / body when they’re sleeping]
[Extends a hand when they see the other was searching for it while they’re sleeping]
“I just feel calmer. When I’m with you.”
“You’re not in bed. I came looking for you.”
“What are you doing up? Come to bed.”
“It’s weird. I never thought I could feel like this, but you showed up. Now, it’s like I don’t wanna go on knowing I might lose the feeling.”
“I don’t mind sharing the blankets with you.”
“You’re cold. Come here.”
“You always do that. You always warm me up.”
“Stay.”
“It’s getting crowded. Here, hold my hand.”
[Hugs for a very long time]
[Puts feet on the other’s lap]
“I’m so proud of you, you know that?”
“I love you.”