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And she knows that you don't think girls need to orgasm so the obvious answer is to just get rid of the wand. But trying other types of things like filling her holes or using her fingers isn't enough stimuli for her to edge.

She would love to be able to edge easily just from anyone touching her.

Please, can you provide any guidance?

It's good to be aware of your weaknesses, but girls, be careful not to let awareness sneak its way into becoming an excuse.

So avoid telling yourself things like,

"...using her fingers isn't enough stimuli [sic] for her to edge."

Instead, say something more like,

"... using her fingers feels like it isn't enough stimulation, and she hasn't been able to edge that way yet."

This might seem like a tiny difference but that's wrong. It turns two things you said, that sounded decided and final, into two things that are are actually true as far a you can really know for sure.

You don't really know that using your fingers isn't enough stimulation - you actually just feel like that's true. And even if it's a little bit true RIGHT NOW, it might be something you can learn to do in the future. That's why the second change is important, too. Adding a little "yet" or "so far" at the end is truer, and it reminds you that this is how things feel now, leaving room for change.

I know I've spent a lot of time on what might seem like a pretty small matter, but the way we say things and think about things is important. I've said this kind of thing a lot of times, but repetition can be helpful for girls who are learning, so I don't mind repeating.

So with that said, on to the specifics.

Firstly, I have known lots of girls that could only edge certain ways, and only when using a vibrator is a common one.

It might be that you never learn to edge other ways, but you need to do some work before you can know that more surely. This means turning the Hitachi off for a while, and only using your fingers.

I want you to do this with some nice porn that you like (reading needy stories counts), and try to do some time every day if you can. Keep rubbing your clit and your cunt the whole time, even if you're not getting to the edge. Focus on anything that feels nice, even if it feels so far from edging. Don't make touching time goal-oriented - that's how girls act about orgasms and we DON'T want to make our nice edges be like that.

Touching time is about taking time with your cunt. Rubbing, touching, experimenting. If you get to the edge that's nice, but if you don't that's okay too, as long as you're focused on the feelings you're giving yourself down there.

I'd like to see two weeks of trying every day if you can manage it, and the Hitachi DOES NOT turn on during this time.

Okay?

The other side of this is that it's actually okay to do your edges with your Hitachi. You said, "... the obvious answer is to just get rid of the wand." But that's wrong. The obvious answer is to just get rid of the orgasms. And I'm not even talking about forever right now. I'm talking about finding a way to turn Hitachi time into just edges without cumming at the end.

That's not easy, I know, but that's the actually obvious thing, and it's something all good girls need to learn, however they edge. I need to write a longer post on this but the biggest help you can give yourself is to know what being done with edges means.

Right now, being done with edges means cumming, but you know that's bad. So if you're trying to cum less but still edge, you just need to decide what to do INSTEAD of cumming. Try this (and this goes for any of you other girls reading this): when you're edging and you're close, and your cunt is getting that feeling like it wants to cum... right when you would usually let it happen, you say, "No. Good girls don't cum." And then you count slowly down from 10 to 1 (you can do 5 to 1 if things are really needy, and you don't think you can make it from 10).

After you get to 1, you take your hands (or Hitachi or whatever) off your cunt, and you keep your legs open, and you say "thank you for taking my orgasm away." You can whisper it or even just think it, if you can't really talk, but form the words. Really count down. Follow exactly as I say here.

Let the feeling fade away. Then you're not allowed to touch yourself for at least ten minutes. You can be done for the day or you can wait ten patient minutes before you start again - that part's not important. The important thing is creating something that you do at the end of edges that isn't cumming.

Could you explain the difference between grinding and humping more? I'd love to feel like a needy animal.

Penetration feels so so soo good for me in my edge hole, but I think I understand what you mean. My little edge hole is just that, for edges. I've been trying to hump (or maybe I've been grinding?) more, and that makes my little cunt feel so so empty. It's very confusing!! But you may be right that maybe that's the way it should be feeling.

What do you think of ruined orgasms? I've been ruining my cunt (spreading it open with nothing inside so it feels empty) every time I go over, but does that still count as an orgasm?

I'll consider using my little back-hole as my new cunt. It's actually kind of a daydream of mine. I'll have to train definitely, but I'm looking forward to it!

Thanks again! Sorry if the questions are a bother lol

There's two kinds of humping girls can do. The first one is when you've got your cunt on top and pressed up against something big and soft, like a pillow, or a stuffy, or a big pile of blankets. It's kind of like pretending you're getting fucked. You're usually on your belly, or maybe sitting on top, and you're moving your body and hips, rubbing your cunt against the thing you're humping. Obviously very cute and pathetic, and very needy.

The other kind is one that a man might have you do, where you have to hump against nothing, not allowed to feel anything from it. You might be on your back, or standing, or really any way he puts you, humping just the same way as if you had a nice pillow there. This one might not be your favorite but girls should do as they're told. There's probably a good reason he wants you to do it, right?

And last is grinding. This is when you're not really on top of something like a pillow in the same way and it feels a bit different than pretending you're getting fucked. Instead, you press your cunt up against either something big like the corner of a chair or table, or else something unusual, like a dumbbell or a sewing machine, or even something like a man's shoe, leg, or cock (not going inside of course).

Grinding is a lot more pathetic than humping. If you keep focusing on what you must look like, or even better - watch yourself in a mirror, that can make your cunt really leak to see how slutty and ridiculous you look (but don't worry, it's kind of cute, too). It can be harder to edge that way, but it's something I like good girls to do. Variety is nice :)

And your cunt honestly should feel the way that he wants it to feel, and if you don't have a bf, Sir, owner, etc. then I think it makes sense to practice making cunt be just your edge hole as much as possible, so you're more ready if that's what he decides for you (if you consent to and give him that control to decide). Or imagine what a good girl feeling it would be to offer that to a man who didn't even know it's what he wanted until you offered ;)

On ruins. I think they can sometimes be a good tool for men to train girls. Girls really benefit from being led one baby step at a time, and some girls are ready for bigger steps sooner than others. So sometimes it might be really useful to have a girl ruin when she should probably be denied longer, but she's struggling too much and at risk of losing progress.

So what you've been doing is better than it might be, but it's still not good, and yes I still count it as cumming. It's better to learn and practice ending edges without cumming. I should write a whole post just on that idea, because I think it might help some girls to do a better job.

For my part though, I consider having a ruin as a kind of cunt spasm and so I think they should be avoided as much and as long as possible, just like those other spasms.

Remember: good girls should be focused on edging more and cumming less.

Can you try to keep still please?

“Yes Sir, it's just...”

Just what?

“Just I... nnnnhhhh...”

Just what? I'm trying to relax and get this reading done for work.

“I know but your fingers...”

 What about them?

“They're edging me really, really close!”

Yes, that relaxes me. I think you knew about that.

“Yes, Sir, but-”

You want me to be relaxed, right?

“Yes Sir, but...”

But what?

“It’s just my cunt is so close and needy and aching.”

Wait. Whose cunt?

“Nnnhhh...”

Whose?

“Yours, Sir.”

So my cunt is very close and very needy and very, very aching, is that right?

“Yes, Sir. So much.”

But, is it any of your business of yours what I do with my cunt?

“Nnngh… Sir…”

I have lots of stress from my work, and I have a bunch of things I need to read through tonight. If it relaxes me to edge my leaking little cunt while I do it, is that your business?

“Nnnn. No, Sir.”

No. And shouldn’t good girls mind their own business?

“Yes, Sir.”

That’s better. Besides, even if it were your cunt, I would have thought you would want to let me edge it, and help relieve my stress. Is that not true?

“No, Sir, it is true.”

Is it really?

“Yes, Sir. It is, it’s just… I’m so close. And you never, never let me go over.”

That’s true, but that’s how I like to keep my cunt. I don’t like it having orgasms, and it’s my cunt, not yours, so that’s just how it is.

“But...”

I’m getting there. It’s true, we keep Sir’s cunt right down there between your legs and you get to feel those really big strong edges. But that just means I really really need your help, so when I edge it so so close, we work together to make sure we keep it from cumming. I can count on you, right, little helper?

“Yes, Sir. It’s just so hard…”

I know. But you’re a good girl, and I know you’re strong enough to do what Sir says. I wouldn’t make you do it if I didn’t think so.

“Okay. Okay, thank you, Sir.”

🎀

Well, I don't get to tell you what's allowed, but I will say that I don't think girls should stop edges then. Lots of girls get really needy at that time, so that's very normal.

Sent an anon earlier asking the difference between humping and grinding. I just tried anal, and god, it's so much. I feel pleasure, but I also don't at the same time.

It feels like I'm just a hole to be used. I am my hole.

Is that why I should be keeping my cunt empty? Because a cock can feel good in me and make me a hole?

I'll answer your other ask at some point, but for now, a little something about anal.

There are a lot of reasons I think that it's good for girls to do anal mostly, and in those reasons there's a lot of overlap with orgasm denial. This includes making girls feel more controlled and submissive, but also the kinda of things you were thinking.

Orgasm denial teaches a girl that her pleasure is not the point. Edging feels really good for most girls but that's just kind of lucky. The most important things about it are that it's useful for teaching girls and for keeping you in a good headspace, and that it's enjoyable for me and makes my pleasure more. Those are important things - your pleasure is not.

You also noticed something really important I think. About trying anal you said "I feel pleasure, but I also don't at the same time." There a reason for that.

It's because you're confusing two different things.

1. Physical pleasure

2. Fulfillment, happiness, sense of purpose, etc.

Sometimes I call the second one "girl pleasure" (even though that can be confusing for some girls 😂) because this is what many many girls actually want to feel, more than anything.

So why does anal help?

It's because there probably isn't a more pure way for a girl to feel like a good girl than when you are giving him extra physical pleasure (since anal feels better) while at the same time disregarding your own physical pleasure. It's counter-intuitive at first, but that's why girls can learn to love anal so much more than cunt sex, and it's also why you felt like it was pleasure but also not pleasure.

So maybe now you can see it. Being an anal girl and keeping your cunt empty teaches you at the level of your mind-body connection, in a way that is very powerful, that your physical pleasure really has nothing to do with what you need or what will make you happy.

So yeah. Just a hole.

Oh I'm glad you liked it. I think i know the answer you mean. And it's good that you're thinking about staying denied. It can be a bit scary but I know it feels kind of nice for you just thinking about it.

There's no best way to edge though. It's like you said - every way gives a different effect - so it's more like different tools that do different things.

Well - not totally different! The ways you can edge DO all make girls needy and help with all those good girl things :)

But just like a man might use a hammer one time and a saw the next time, a good girl can learn and practice all kinds of ways to keep that little hole all aching and leaking.

Touching is basic and everyday, but that's not a bad thing! You need something that's simple and easy to do every day, whether it's laying in bed, getting so close for so long, or some nice rubbing in the shower, or a few minutes in the bathroom, at work or at a friend's house.

Touches are so great because they're so easy, and there's lots of different ways to do them. Depending on what is allowed, touching your clit, your cunt - outside or maybe even inside - or even just teasing touches nearby or on your inner thighs. It's all good.

Humping and grinding your little cunt (they are different!) are both more pathetic ways to edge. It's harder to get to the edge and it's usually more physically demanding, too. That makes it feel more like service, or performance, which is a nice and good feeling.

Your edges make you feel more obedient and submissive generally, but when you're working so hard to get to that edge, grinding on the edge of a table... the arm of a chair... or his leg... there's not much that will make you feel more like a needy little animal than that!

Then there's toys. Those buzz toys can give an amazing feeling on your clit, and can sometimes be very quick getting you to the edge, but they can also be dangerous, so if you're a good girl and you use them, do it carefully. Take them away long before you feel like you're too close. We never want to have accidents. Going over by accident is bad, so good girls always make sure they're careful about it.

And it's good to know that some girls don't find the toys work very well for them. So if that's you, it's normal and it's okay. Every girl is different. Even when they do work, using them for a long time can make things feel a bit numb. Not dangerous, but something to look out for!

Then there's penetration, and here the effect is different depending on which hole we mean. Your edge hole is honestly best for just edges, and I usually like girls to not go inside. It doesn't add much to edges and being needy, and it can be confusing for girls.

So that's most of the ways of edging! I hope it was a helpful answer to your question :)

But learning penetration for the little back hole is a very good girl thing and can definitely help with even more neediness and good girl feeling. I think good girls should always learn all their tools, and this is one of them, but it does need to be trained up properly, so if you don't know what you're doing, you should read and learn first and then do it slowly and carefully. Even better if you can learn from someone you trust.

If I start gentle and slow and turn myself on and work myself up I feel like I'm not doing enough, like I'm not close enough for it to count as edging.

But to get closer to the edge, I only know how to do that with my Hitachi and it's so difficult to stop myself. I go from turned on to the edge so quickly and it feels like I can't think of anything else but the orgasm that I want.

Do you have any advice to make myself a better girl?

Sure I can try to help.

First, it might be nice to know that this is totally normal. There are some things about being a good girl that are not easy, and a lot of girls have let that greedy feeling in so much that it's become just like a bad habit.

But bad habits can be stopped, so that's okay.

The biggest advice I can give you is this: Don't let yourself make any excuses.

That means that you should not phrase things in ways that let you off the hook in what you say or even what you think.

You already do a pretty good job of this: You said "…it's so difficult to stop myself" and that one is good! Difficult means you know that you can do it, but it's just really hard. That's true.

But then you said "…it feels like I can't think of anything else but the orgasm…" and that's not good, because it uses the word "can't," and that does something very specific.

So, what are you doing when you say that you can't do something?

You're creating space for yourself to fail. Really that's what an excuse is, a lot of the time. A better way is to use positive and hopeful ways of thinking about the problem. Consider this different way of saying part of what you told me:

"I go from turned on to the edge so quickly, and it's so hard to figure out how I can remember that I'm trying to be a good girl and let go of the orgasm that it feels like I want."

Look at that difference!

The way you said it, you're just reinforcing the idea that this is something you can't do. It kind of points at the problem, but there isn't anything specific to do. But in my better way of thinking about it, you're learning to turn it around and focus on the thing that's really true (that it's really hard to remember). This focuses you onto what you are trying to do (that you want to remember to try to be good instead of cum), not on what's failing .

That difference is big because right away, mine shows you exactly what you need to work on, not just what the problem is. Since the problem is not remembering, you know that the solution is to find ways to remember that you really want to let go of that orgasm, instead of feeling it.

Now that's something you can act on! I can imagine all kinds of things you could do: setting short timers or alarms, making a little motivational sign to look at when you're trying to edge and be good, or a list of reasons why it is important to do it right "just this once."

Knowing the problem let's you plan ahead. That act alone can really really make a difference, because it's so easy to feel like you can't change your behavior when you're just not trying anything different.

So the next time you catch yourself doing a "can't," try to think of the opposite. What is the thing you want to do, that the "can't" is trying to stop you from? That's how you fix it.

“Sir, I was thinking... I want to have an orgasm.”

Oh, is that right?

“Yes, Sir. Just one. I- I know you don’t really like those for me, but… it's been so long…”

Okay, let’s think about it, and we’ll see if that makes sense.

“Um, okay. Thank you, Sir.”

You’re very welcome! Now, first of all, have you been edging like a good girl?

“Well… not so much, really. Not lately.”

Why not?

“Um… I dunno. It's just been really hard to find the time, I-“

Well, you need to start now, right?

“Now?”

Yes, now, silly! You have a rule to edge every day. Do you really think I’m going to consider giving you any orgasms when you haven’t been following your rules and keeping things needy down there?

“No Sir, I guess not.”

You guess?

“I mean no, I should follow my rules, but Sir, you could decide if I could maybe cum if I follow my rules like a good girl for a while…”

No, I don’t think that’s a good idea.

“But, Sir, why not?”

Because your edges are very big and very special and not cumming is part of what makes them so nice and special. You really should do some edges if you’re going to ask me for something like this, so I know you understand what you’re asking for. I have to be responsible about things like this. Does that make sense?

“Um, I guess so, but-”

More guessing?

“No, I mean, yes, Sir it does make sense. May I edge now and then I can ask?”

Didn’t I already tell you to start edging?

“I… did you? I didn’t… I thought…”

Stop thinking. Start rubbing.

There you go. That’s my good girl. Now, doesn’t that feel nice?

“Oh, God, yes, Sir, it feels so nice! I can't believe I couldn't find time for this.”

You just didn’t find time for it. You could have, but you didn’t.

“Yes, Sir. You’re right. I’m sorry.”

Okay. I forgive you. Just do better.

“Yes, Sir. I will.”

Harder edging please. I want that cunt feeling so so needy.

“Yes, Sir, oh God I'm close...”

Already?

“Nnngh... yes, Sir.”

What a little slut.

“Nngyhhh... nnngyes, Sir. Please?”

What is it, little slut?

“Pretty, pretty please may I cum?”

Oh, that’s very cute. But no. No, I don't want to make any big changes when you're all edged and desperate like this. That wouldn't be fair. It’s my job to be very responsible, and that means no big changes when you’re this needy. That makes sense, right?

“Yes, Sir, I think… um… I mean… but…”

You think? How about we turn that noisy thinking down, please, okay? Rub, rub, rub. Edge that wet little hole. That’s my good girl. Show me your dumb girl face. Haha, so cute.

“Thank you, Sir.”

You’re welcome. Keep that tongue out, cute lil dumdum. Now, Sir takes care of you, right?

“Mmmm… yeth, Thir… nnnnghh… cunt tho clothe…”

I bet it is! So you know that part of taking care of you is not making any big changes when you’re this needy. That could be taking advantage of you, even if I don’t mean to, and I’m just not gonna do it. That’s for your protection. You remember that, right?

“Mmhm. Nngh… I remember.”

Good girl. Very close please. So, that’s why I can’t let you have an orgasm right now. To protect you. That makes sense, right?”

“Yes, Sir, that makes sense. Thank you so much for protecting me.”

Uh-uh! Tongue stays out.

“Yeth, Thir. Thorry Thir.”

Okay, that’s better. And it’s my job to protect you, but you’re very welcome.

“Nnnn… nnnnhhh… nnnnngghhhh….”|

Oh, wow, look at how much my cute little dumdum is leaking! It looks like you really, really missed these big, big edges.

“Nnnnnn… Yes, Sir, I did. So much.”

Such a good little slut. Just remember next time to make sure you only ask for changes when you’re not such a needy little animal, okay? That way Sir can maybe consider letting you have one of those bad orgasms.

“Yes, Sir. I-”

Shhh. Harder. Closer. That’s my good girl. Good girls don’t cum.

That's a thoughtful question; thank you for asking.

First of all, girls do get to decide whether they cum or not, unless they give that control to someone else. That's not what you asked, but it's important to say. Consent comes before control.

But you asked if there is any situation where a girl should cum, and that's a question about what ought to happen, or maybe what would be best for her, to put it another way. That's a judgement, so I can answer.

Yes, I do think there is one situation where a girl should cum. I think that if a girl is genuinely working and learning to edge more and cum less, and she is doing this to the best of her ability - pushing herself to do better all the time - then she should cum sometimes. Otherwise, she may get discouraged, and make mistakes that take her off of this good path. I don't expect every girl to be able to go from nothing to perfect little good girl instantly or without some hard work.

Never tipping over, you wouldn’t want that.

Do you think you'll ever post more?

I know I'm very not active right now, but in the few times I'm able to check in here, it's always so nice to see that there is still new and sustained interest in what I've made here.

Few people write mindfuck the way you do.

I’m very glad that at least you have your post still up so I can still rub to your art <3

your stories made me never want to cum again, me and my daddy are trying to achieve that goal now