There are lots of fake entps out there, so I have compiled random notes about the few/actually many statistically that I know/handle on a regular basis. Some of this may apply to other tps, but Iām writing specifically here. Featuring gifs of people Iām pretty sure are entps, but might change my mind knowing me aha.
Childlike, but this can be in a good way. Entps arenāt meant to grow up in the same way as an Sj, theyāre always gonna a be a little bit like a small kid. ā„
In a relationship, entps can seem very chill and charming at first. But they can also have avoidant tenancies and fear of low Fe. Theyāre a little insecure before peak Fe development, so they might try to make you jealous if they feel threatened. Who threatens an entp? Only people you like or respect that they feel are better than them. Entps donāt like being trumped, their Ti can be a little immature this way š
Entps respect independence and intelligence, and they really like intuitives. They like debating everything and throwing around dumb ideas for the fun of it when theyāre relaxed.
Can be very quiet and intraverted when not comfortable, or just when a little stressed or tired. Can be mistaken for an fj or fp when well developed, especially an enfj or enfp.
Entps always have a reason for what theyāre doing or saying, even if itās a ādumbā one. So if your entp says they donāt know why theyāre doing something, donāt buy it. They have a secret agenda. š
Entps can be accidentally callous or even deliberately mean, but theyāre also really paranoid about upsetting people. They can be easily pushed around if they feel low Fe guilt.
^surprisingly, this is when an *nfj can step in and say 'um⦠No? Donāt let them guilt trip you!ā
Happy, outgoing, cheeky, kids who wanna work out how everything works and how they can do it all themselves. Have some spectacularly dumb ideas, but theyāre so little itās all cool.
^this Ti development is what *nfjs go through in later teens, when they actually have to suffer and sound spectacularly dumb cos theyāre not a kid. So entps are a natural help here, and theyāre not too mean cos they remember when they used to be dumb too.
Summary of Depressed/Looping/Immature Entps:
When theyāre rejecting their childlike nature, they can be childlike in a really bad, immature emotional way.
When theyāre depressed they can be boring, withdrawn, paranoid, and irrational. They can become convinced everyone hates them and only see the negative.
They can use immature Fe to manipulate people. They might use their Fi Trickster function to convince you theyāre the victim when theyāre not.
Theyāre very sensitive to society and gender roles and stuff, and want to fit in very badly (low Fe I guess). But they also want to be feared and admired for their cunning, so they can be really mean, even on purpose, only to be really upset when people hate them for it. And if you donāt hate them for it and are kind in spite of it, theyāll cry.
Overly secretive, then gets upset when people donāt know who they really are.
^ would just like to add that, interestingly, this is ALL the same rubbish *nfjs have gone through when younger, so theyāre defs natural friends. *nfjs basically demonstrate to *ntps that Fe is there to help you care for people, not care about how they see you (though obvs it does both). Itās also not there to charm people into doing what you want so that you never have to put in the effort of actually growing a friendship š
Also, over emotional, dramatic, and unstable, like any immature person.
Obsessed with body image, a lot of them seem to have eating disorders. Also want to be smart, but very conscious of societyās expectations about their looks in particular. Not comfortable with who they are, would like to be an Fj or a Tj. Want to be kind and caring, but also cut throat and ruler of everything.
Obsessed with being seen as intelligent and basically as tj as possible. Wants to be cut throat but canāt pull it off emotionally or strategically - frustrated when people get the better of them. Very upset when people dislike them because of their nastiness. Unable to accept intellectual failure, so struggles to learn from mistakes.
Points on How to Handle Them:
Entps who are immature cannot be helped. They must help themselves. Your only goal here is to not get used or hurt by their poor Fe.
Be mean. Not actually mean, tough love mean. Entps benefit from Te or te look alikes like low Ti.
Be kind. Thatās the main one. Truly hurt entps withdraw. They go all quiet and their eyes go big, or maybe they tense their jaw and try to look mad. In that situation you should be kind over tough love, cos you donāt want them to go into their paranoid 'everyone hates meā loop.
The easy way to tell whether their sudden tears are real? How easily they can stop when you say 'stop it, thatās fakeā or even 'I believe youā. Crying entps are very upset and will not be able to just STOP crying. (You could also try tasting the tears, cos sad ones are salty and fake ones arenāt, but that might be weird). As well as that, entps truly crying are generally on low Si and will moan about how theyāre going to fail and theyāve ruined their lives, whereas fake crying entps will moan about how theyāve upset you or other random things they think may shut you up.
See intent. Donāt listen to what the entp is actually saying, hear what they mean. It will save you a lot of time being offended š
Explain yourself. Entps on the internet have a reputation as being emotionally callous, but theyāre not if you can explain it. 'When you do this, I feel this way becauseā was a formula invented for our Tp friends, and it will usually soften an entp (Iām sure there are bad exceptions!).
Stay calm. Donāt expect your entp to be a j - it will kill you all. Your entp will probably improve over time, but donāt plan on it.
Be honest. Really, donāt bother keeping any secrets from your entp. Theyāll just invent a terrible, paranoid narrative or completely not notice. Their low Fe will assume everything is fine, and when you finally break it to them theyāve been upsetting you the whole time, their little tp hearts will break š
Discuss your expectations. Expect to negotiate your expectations.
Tell them when theyāre arguing and refuse to engage as much as possible. Debate and fruitful discussion only.
Copy your entp. If your entp gets overly aggressive or upset all of a sudden, match their reaction with your own. Theyāll usually realise how completely irrational it is. (For example, if entp says 'WHY DID YOU WARM UP MY FOOD, I LIKE IT COLD?!ā be like 'OH MY GOODNESS IāM SO SORRY, I CANāT BELIEVE I DID THAT, HOW COULD I NOT HAVE REMEMBERED, OUR LIVES ARE OVERā. Theyāll usually laugh with you at that point
Donāt be nasty. If you canāt do the above things from a kind place, donāt do them. Entps arenāt always emotionally clued up, but they can be very sensitive to negative intentions.
Randomly ask them what theyāre keeping from you. If they instantly look away (even if they frown, smile, whatever) theyāre probably keeping something⦠Entps actively keeping secrets generally isnāt healthy. Entps have Ti, so they might forget to mention stuff. But if they purposely hold stuff back, itās usually bad. Theyāll probs try to justify keeping it to themselves and construct a paranoid narrative about you, so donāt let them drift too far if you can.
Donāt take it personally. High maintenance required for immature/depressed/looping entps. Like walking on eggshells and pulling chickenās teeth all at once.
Enjoy their strange affection. Functioning entps are very warm and caring, even if it is in slightly strange ways.
Expect the unexpected. No, not in a romantic way. Entps are romantic, but theyāre given too much credit for actually doing stuff about it. Unexpect the expected. Entps donāt want to do anything just cos itās expected, so tell them explicitly if you want something⦠And then donāt expect them to remember. Just in case.
Talk about everything. Donāt ridicule any idea, just discuss it and the entp will realise how unrealistic it is if it is. They probs just having fun anyway.
Lead the way. Entps want deep friendships, but they donāt often know how to get there - or they just donāt bother getting there. Just do your thing, theyāll probably follow. Entps can be flighty and hard to pin down, but theyāll probably tell you straight up if they donāt like you or want to hang out.
Ditch them once in a while. Entps respect independence and will quickly get bored if you just cling. But donāt ditch them too much, cos theyāre also insecure and jealous when pushed (who isnāt?).
Donāt pat their ego. Your entp isnāt always going to be the smartest/prettiest/best in general person in the room, so donāt reassure them that they are. Reassure them that theyāre your choice and you love them, but donāt indulge their fantasies.