Dark Moon Lilith/Waldemath Lilith (H58) : Mother Gaia, Spiritual Realm, Shadows, Night and the Moon.
Waldemath Lilith (h58) was discovered by scientist George Waldemath .
Wanting to take the time to explain my feelings towards this placement. As it's different from the other lilith placements, but has nothing to do with lilith in its entirety.
When Waldemath saw the planet in the sky, he said he seen it as a dark shadow in the sky and thats when he got the name for it.
Connecting it to lilith is great, but understanding its prophecies are bit different. So lets begin.
With the energy of dark moon lilith, its connecting to a cosmic force that focuses on the 'Mother'. Who is that you might ask?
Well in this case, The Mother is the Universe. But its so much deeper than that.
Because we exist in a timeline where we don't say thank you to mother gaia, where we pretend that the feminine is lesser than the masculine. Where we think of 'God' as a masculine entity and nothing more.
And this is where it gets challenging.
To say its a lilith placement isn't far fetched, just have to take into note that this energy that the dark moon portrays is far more connected to something spiritual than the lilith placement itself.
This one focuses on the spiritual elements, the ancestor, the mother, the unseen forces and realms that we hear about but can't get our grip on.
So when I say this placement has some deep shit to unravel, I mean it.
So starting off with someone having this placement in there first house. These individuals could deal with the world where the empathic effects can be overly daunting or exceptionally healing.
At some point, people will look to you as something other than. For better or for worse.
In the beginning phases of life, you may be forced to see how much different and sensitive you are to others and this may shape you in a way that makes your outlook on life far connected to something spiritual and enlightening. You can explore the different realms and find solace in what it is you came to do without shame once you realize those experiences where you were outcasted were suppose to shape you into your original form.
You're different in a way that connects the universe to your vision, never forget it.
Someone with this placement in the first house would have to learn the hardships & lessons of being 'Other' and knowing how to navigate things in a way that correlates with their plane of existence. You're not alone in it, and deep down you are a source of divine inspiration because all your life you had to get your level of intellect and knowledge from some where. And at times this can reflect on your appearance and show itself brightly. You have a big aura that shapes the people around you, and a lot of times people can see you in a odd way than most, but it's Mother.
Mother isn't just one thing, she is everything. And thats you.
Now for someone who has this placement connected to the Sun, you will have to surrender to the divine forces within more often than you'd like. The shame, guilt and fears you've succumbed to where not that of your own, which is very similar to lilith, but again, its connected to something cosmic. It's as if your life force is here to shape the perceptions and realities of others with just your mere presence. You have a gift that enlightens a lot of people into being who they are and you're very captivating to say the least. You may have been bullied with how unique you stand in your aura but thats because children and even adults had not known what the outer realms we're trying to teach them.
The way you express your divine feminity is not that of anyone else, which can confuse others and they'll try to change your perception of what it is and what it isn't. But you'll keep going nonetheless.
You're a shape shifter, a healer, and a vortex opener. Someone who knows the ins and the outs when it comes to spiritual knowledge. But you keep this to your self. Something about you is incredibly magical, and the more you connect to nature, crystals and animals the higher your vibration will be.
Moon aspecting the dark moon can show an individual whos psychic prowess can take form and connect to the areas around them. You're likeliness is like a witch, and you're connected to the stars and all things unseen in a way that most people will never grasp. It. isn't for them too. You're like the crone but you haven't lived that long yet, its been ingrained in you since a young age.
You guys are different in the way you carry yourself, you could end up going into something connected to candle magick, witchcraft if you will, as the feminine magic you carry needs expression at some point.
Theres a special quality to the connection you have with others, it passes the concept of time and other things related to beliefs in religious doctrines. You have a interesting persona and the way you carry yourself is unique and has nothing to do with social standards carried out in society.
Your energy holds weight and it may push people into believing in something and thinking deeper than what is totally normal.
This was a fun, short, intricate analyzation of the planet and the energies connected to the big 3. I hope this helps someone wanting to learn more about the dark moon and its ties to the spiritual. More to come on this. Adios!
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𝔡𝔞𝔯𝔨 𝔪𝔬𝔬𝔫 𝔩𝔦𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔥 H58 [ might also be known as waldemath lilith ] is about anti mother, fairy tales, sadomasochism, emotional pain, toxins, pain of exile, depth of psychology, plots/executes of vengeance, the shadow, rage, madness, nightmares, demons, ghosts, gremlins, nymphomania, psycho and stalkers.
ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE SIGNS -
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN ARIES - those who have this placement could have mothers that could've been too dictating, could be open about their distaste over mother figures or their mother figure. could live in that "abused becomes warrior" fairy tale, could be interested in sadomasochism but might be the one conflicting the pain. their emotional pain might impact their mental state a lot; could've been publicly humiliated by someone who is perceived as a leader. could release their anger physically. if not careful can become physically abusive. might not be the type to try toxins because they want to be in control. might've been left out by someone who had an important role in their life or could be work-place, these individuals might've been in a position when they're at the top of the food chain and fall to the bottom. they could be people who wouldnt realise that their upbringing is the reason of their mental-state. this is a very angry placement. might execute vengeance very impulsively, they might allow their shadow-self to take over, a placement for anger issues. people with this placement might falls into fits of rage and anger a lot; could have very violent nightmares, nightmares might involve fire. for those who believes in demons and ghosts, is an indicator of being taunted by youthful, or provoking demons and ghosts. could have an uncontrollable sexual desire, might be a sex addict and could also have violent stalkers, stalkers who might be in high positions as well.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN TAURUS - those who have this placement could have mothers that have taken stuff from them or could've made them feel insecure. might live in the fairy tales of rags to riches; these people might be too sensual for sadomasochism, but if they're open to it, they might like to choke or be choked. might've been publicly humiliated by women in their life or feminine energy; their emotional pain might manifest to their throat, might struggle about being vocal about it. could try a lot of drugs, liquid drugs like alcohol or over-dosing on medicinal drugs. could've been exiled by something or someone that was their safe space. could be stubborn about wanting to look into their psychology. could be very slow about executing their vengeance but something could trigger them to ruin it. their shadow might influence them to take things that isnt theirs. their rage and madness could compete with those who have the asteroid in aries. could have nightmares about them feeling worthless. for those who believes in ghost and demons, might be taunted by demons and ghosts who influence the individuals about falling into their desires. nymphomania behaviour could be very prominent in this placement, might be interested in food sex. a case of narcissism might be eminent in this placement, and might have stalkers that steal their belongings as an asset. [ think of joe goldberg ].
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN GEMINI - those who have this placement could've had mother figures that was mentally abusive, could've compared them to others a lot. those who are mothers might have children that behave like they dont like them? im hearing a case of postpartum depression as well. people with this placement might live in their heads a lot; might not be into sadomasochism but might be into degrading people sexually. might've been publicly humiliated by relatives; might express their emotional pain through speaking or writing. could have a toxic mindset or toxic relatives. could've been exiled by relatives or could've dropped their relatives. might be interested on why they behave a certain way, might be interested in the psychology of others. very cunning with their executes of vengeance. their shadow could be their intrusive thoughts, interestingly some people with this placement could've gone through vanishing twin syndrome. could go through fits that completely change their behaviour, many people with this placement could've been perceived as insane. could be the type of people who keep a dream journal and majority of it being nightmares. they could also see their intrusive thoughts as "their demons or ghosts", might be interested in the lore of gremlins. might be into phone sex, sexting. might've had relatives that are psycho, could be the psycho relative. could have relatives that stalkers [ could've stalked the individual or someone else ] or they could've been the relative that was the stalker.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN CANCER - those who have this placement could've had a mother that was manipulative in many ways, could've had a emotionally manipulating mother. could've had a fairy tale or even the thoughts of a fairy tale of finding a better mother. could be into sadomasochism but is very private about it, unless it is aspected with planets like sun or mars. might've been publicly humiliated by their mother figure, could've received much emotional pain from their mother figure, toxic mother figures, or feminine figures in general. could've been kicked out by their mother figure, could've been taken to orphanages etc. their psyche could've been derived from their biological mother. with the way their mother treated them, those with this placement might've learnt how to mentally and emotionally manipulate others to get what they want. people who have this placement could be deemed as lunatics. [ not all ]. could have nightmares of being physically abused by their mother or family. could've seen their mother as a demon, could have a mother figure that is dead. their mother figure or women they have beef with could be perceived as gremlins by natives with this placements. could be very sexually active because of their trauma, the women in their family might be psychotic. could've been stalked by feminine energy.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN LEO - people with this placement might've looked up to their mother-figure a lot just to be disappointed. they might have a stardom fairy tale, imagining them becoming rich and famous that the people who've done them wrong comes crawling back to them. they're most likely into sadomasochism, very adventurous and exploring in it. could've been publicly humiliated by their father figure, or even children? might like to inflict pain on someone's back or like to have pain on the back [ might like to get whipped? ]; these people might get heart-broken a lot, could have a massive ego issue. could indulge in toxins, or might feel like they're too above it. could've been exiled in their childhood and by their father figure. might be interested in the psychology of fathers or men, could even be interested in the psychology of children. could be very prideful about how they execute their vengeance, might like to prey on the people they plot on. their shadow could be their ego and arrogant energy. could feel rage if their authority is challenged [ once again ego issues ] could get nightmares about losing who they are or them being forgotten. could have very powerful demons/ghosts haunt them. very sensual people, high sex drive. could've had masculine energy stalk them a lot, a father figure could've been a psycho. if poorly aspected, this could manifest into them being stalked when they were a child or could become harmful to children.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN VIRGO - people with this placement might've felt like their mother figure serviced other people but not them. their matriarch could've put other people's needs above their own child. could imagine a fairytale of being treated with royal service or just a better atmosphere. people with this placement are very "freaky" will totally be into sadomasochism; might've been publicly humiliated at work? or by their enemies. could feel emotional pain when things they worked on dont go the way it was supposed to. could try nature-like toxins like mushrooms etc. could've been exiled by people they trusted majority of the time, or people they hung around a lot. could be very into psychology, and very tactful with the way they plot their vengeance to the point that it could be perceived as perfect. their shadow could involve them becoming people who they're not are, manipulating other view's on them. could have occurring and repetitive nightmares, this is a placement of someone being taunted by demons, ghost and "gremlins" all the time; they might see things others cant thus being taunted by them. could become a big sex addict, might rely on it to make themselves feel better. might've interacted with actually clinical psychotic people; might work in a workplace that brings them type of people to them. could've worked with stalkers but they themselves can be excellent stalkers.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN LIBRA - people with this placement could have a very unbalanced relationship with their mother, their mother might've focused on the material realm too much more than actual needs. people with this asteroid in libra might have the fairy tale of undergoing cosmetic surgery to become more confident. they might not be into sadomasochism that much but if they are they might be into candle sex? might've been publicly humiliated by their partners. emotional pain can come when they're indecisive about something too much that it leads them into losing stuff. could be people who indulge in toxins when they're in a low point, could've been exiled in relationships, like cheated on. could've been dumped a lot. could've been the one cheating. could be interested in psychology when it comes to people who've done something against the law. they might like to plot their vengeance lawfully, their shadow is their insecurities and about how they think they have nothing, might become people who aren't grateful. as this asteroid is has very dark themes, when natives with this placement become unbalanced they can get into fits of rage and madness that manifests into their dreams. a lot of their rage could open up a door for things like demons and ghosts etc. nymphomania might likely come in when they think they need to prove something or become more likeable to their partners. could've had a lot of psycho/stalkerish love interests.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN SCORPIO - people with this placement could have a very toxic relationship with their mother, could have very intense feelings about their distaste about certain mother figures. some might not want to become mothers. could like twisted fairytales or fairytales where they get their vengeance. people with this placement are highly likely into sadomasochism, spanking, hair tugging etc. ropes? might avoid any situations that could involve them getting publicly humiliated. might've been publicly humiliated by in-laws. could have intense emotional pain might be repressed but can burst any minute. will most likely indulge in toxins; might've been exiled by masses of people. natives with this placement might find themselves hated for no reason. are very interested in the psychology of others and themselves, they just want to "understand". can be very dark and twisted with the way they plot their vengeance or like the scorpion they are, will like to execute in a way it'll sting whoever they're plotting on. hitting where it hurts. their shadow self is their destructive energy, "their fuck it, imma do it" energy. much rage and madness but it is bottled, but they'll find themselves releasing it in an unhealthy way from time to time. definitely have nightmares, might get used to it, very ominous and insidious nightmares they can have. can be around much negative energy that'll feel like demonic and ghostly. could have people who just have gremlin behaviour around them. total sex addicts, might masturbate a lot as well. can be very psychotic and stalker-ish, if pushed.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN SAGITTARIUS - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that abused them with religion or with any of their spiritual beliefs, could've had a mother that tried to take away their freedom. could want to live in a fairytale where they are free all around and can travel. might be into sadomasochism just to feel power over people they're sexually inflicting pain on. might've been publicly humiliated during holidays. could feel the emotional pain because of religious/spiritual trauma. could rely on toxins because they think "it'll open their third eye" or they just want to feel numb. might be apart of something that is against religious/spiritual beliefs thus feeling exiled, for example, being exiled because they're apart of the lgbt+, pregnant before marriage etc. might want to understand the psychology of people who put religious/spiritual priorities over their family members. might not be people who plot or execute vengeance, but if they do they might fall into hatred too much and just destroy everything in their way. their shadow could be their arrogant and God-like complex; their rage could be immense and could be considered as obnoxious, their offensive and unpleasant persona could drive others to madness or just make others feel heavily annoyed. could have nightmares of living in their own hell or just having to submit. might've had terrible "opening third-eye" moments, and might've seen things traumatic. people with this placement are very likely to be nymphomaniac, might have a goal of sleeping with many people they can. is a cult leader placement, might try and push their beliefs onto other people; could feel like they have the right to watch other people and judge.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN CAPRICORN - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that was too controlling, perhaps these people were restricted from a lot of things when they were younger, feeling isolated or just different. having the fairytales of having authority over people and having the knowledge that no one will be able to command them like before. this is a indicator of someone being into sadomasochism, might also like being tied up or tying others up. could have emotional pain from people that were older than them or had power and control over them. is a beacon of being publicly humiliated by authority figures. could've been exiled because they didnt follow a structure. is a beacon of someone being rebellious. some of these people might not realise where their trauma stems from; could be very strategic and thorough with the way they plot revenge, though people who have this asteroid in capricorn might have a very vengeful karma that handles people who've done them wrong automatically. their shadow persona could be their dictating persona, might be over-controlling. could feel rage and madness when they feel like they're not being listened to or taken seriously. could have nightmares of religious trauma as well as capricorn rules over the church. could've had traumatic experiences in religious buildings. might've not seen demons or ghosts as much as the other placements or they could've seen paranormal activity happen in religious areas or their mother's father side of the family could've came from a place where a lot of paranormal activity happened. might want to control their sexual desires and not have it take over them; these people can be very disciplined with how they express their intrusive thoughts or ideas but when they plan it out, it'll be very organised and arranged.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN AQUARIUS - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that cared about others more than they cared about their child, or could've had a mother that didnt behave like a responsible matriarch figure. [ could've had a matriarch figure that tried to take away their liberty as well ], they could have the fairytale of becoming a better version of themselves and their mother figure, as the sign is known about the taboo and out of ordinary, they'll want to try out sadomasochism and if its not for them they wont try it again. is an indicator of being publicly humiliated in their community or by their friends. might feel emotional pain because of the community they used to be in, might've felt too indifferent. they could've been exiled by their friends or was the one who did the exiling, the type to drop their friends and ghost them. is an indicator of someone not being too interested about the depth of psychology or they would have erratic ideas about how the human mind works. could become very extreme with the way they execute their vengeance, could plot it in a genius way or very basic. their shadow is their extreme and unpredictable self, and as the unforeseeable nature of the aquarius sign, their rage and madness is incalculable and whimsical; could have nightmares of them being forgotten or alone. could've had people in their community who exhibited very "demonic" behaviour, or just behaviour that was diabolical. their sexual desires can be erratic, there could be moments when they're uninterested and then moments when they're abnormal. as this asteroid placement is an indicator of unpredictable, abnormal and bizarre behaviour, is a beacon of someone being a stalker.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN PISCES - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that was purely deluded and out of touch with reality. is a sign of someone being in their head all the time, could have a fairytale of just escaping from everywhere that gives them issues. is a sign of someone being the person that was inflicted pain on during physical pain will least likely be the person inflicting the pain. could've been publicly humiliated by people who try and make themselves be perceived better than them. could use toxins to run away from the physical world, could get addicted to it. is a beacon of someone just feeling like no one has their back, could have a very destructive and bad mental state, could lose themselves in delusions and convince themselves that everything is going well. when it comes to plotting vengeance they could be very secretive and sly with the way they do it. their shadow might be victimising and would always find a reason to blame others for the behaviour they exhibit, could be the type to suppress their rage but when it finally comes out people end up being very shocked with how angry they can get. is an indicator of someone being very demented and deranged. mostly because of what goes on in their head, endless nightmares, hallucinations, seeing things that aren't there might pull them to the insane trail. could partake in much sexual desires to break out from the insanity they're falling into; this placement is a very high sign of someone being a stalker, or just attracting people who are deeply mentally ill and ominous.
ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE HOUSES -
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE FIRST HOUSE - natives with this placement could've had a mother that didnt want them or they're someone who doesnt like their mother. they might behave very naive or deluded, is an indicator of them looking like they're from a fairytale, might be into sadomasochism, could've had embarrassing first impressions or first meetings with people. might look like they're in pain all the time. might be emotionally pained by how life treats them, people might get addicted to them or they might've been shunned by other people. could be interested with the psychology of life, can be a very vengeful person, they could have a dark aura, eye-bags? like heavy ones; could look like they're angry all the time, could have occurring nightmares, or have night-marish interactions with people. this placement is a beacon of someone just looking scary or intimidating, many people might find them appealing and sexually attractive; might look like a nypmh. is a placement of attracting psychotic people and stalkers.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE SECOND HOUSE - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that stole from them; people with this placement could be vocal about how they want their life to be, have wishes of being rich; is a beacon of someone being in sadomasochism, could have a lot of whips, ropes etc somewhere. might've been publicly humiliated by an immediate family member. could've received emotional pain by their immediate family, not being protected by them when they should've. could have an alcohol addiction, could've been exiled by their immediate family members. might want to understand how others use their money? might not be the most vengeful but when they want to get someone back, they could be stubborn about letting things go. their shadow could be a shopping addiction, could be someone that steals; when in rage or mad, they can become very loud. might've had a nightmare about losing their voice? might be interested with learning about the language demons etc speak, could be sexually attracted to people's voices or people might find their voices sexually appealing. could endorse themselves in sex to feel better and more secure. could have psychotic people in their immediate family, could've had someone in their immediate family that has been stalked vice versa.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE THIRD HOUSE - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that was verbally abusive to them. people with this placement could've been interested with writing, along with writing fairytales or a fairytale with a dark twist. as they're versatile, they might be open with sadomasochism but im getting majority of the people with this placement might not be into it. could've been publicly humiliated by relatives, in their school or in their neighbourhood. they could've had emotional pain from their siblings or relatives or because of their journey in school; toxic relatives. could've been exiled by their relatives and felt like the black sheep. could be very interested with how the human mind works. is very sly with their execution of vengeance, their shadow might be their intrusive thoughts, could have a lot of panic attacks, anxiety attacks and so on. people with dark moon in the third house might go through a lot of nightmares or see things that arent there? or see things other people cant see; could be someone that thinks of sex all the time. could have a very dark mind, could've had psychotic relatives, relatives that were stalkers, stalkers in their neighbourhood or school.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE FOURTH HOUSE - natives with this placement could've had a mother figure that wasnt there. could've had an abusive mother figure, people with this placement could've imagined moving out from their home when they were younger. might want to dip into sadomasochism just to feel something. is a beacon of being publicly humiliated by a mother figure or a family member. could've received emotional pain from their mother figure or family. their home could've had a lot of drugs and alcohol? evidently, toxic family members, some who have this placement could've been kicked out of her home. some might've even had emancipation from their parents, specifically from their mother. could've inherited mental stability from their mother. people who have this placement could be bitter but not the type to carry out vengeance? or not long ones, just like to get someone right there and then. their shadow could be envy, envy of people who have matriarchal security. their rage and mad energy is just them being bitter but it wont last for long but they can become cold or guarded when they do feel that way. could've had a lot of nightmares in their birth home but when they leave everything is better. could've lived in a home where it was haunted. could've been introduced to physical pleasure when they were too young, could've had a mother that portrayed themes of psychotic behaviour, could've have someone stalk their home, or their mother. their mother figure might not want to let go of these natives.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE FIFTH HOUSE - people with this placement could've gone through a life where there mother didnt want them or had a mother that was too arrogant, could be both. people with this placement might not want to have children; they could have some delusions about their childhood, they might be avoidant about revisiting trauma that happened in their childhood. about the topic of sadomasochism, will likely be into it but would want to be the one inflicting pain. could've been publicly humiliated by children? or their flings? could have emotional pain from their childhood, along with their father figure, could have emotional pain from the people they used to date. might not be able to give birth, might want to work with kids though. will be very open about how they execute vengeance, would want the person they're plotting on to be embarrassed. their shadow might be their arrogant and self-righteous energy. could feel a lot of rage and madness because of their childhood, pent up anger. could have nightmares about what they went through as a child or have nightmares about their father. could've had a lot of paranormal activities when they were younger, might like to watch horror. is an indicator of being very sexually active, could've had a lot of psychos as love interests and love interests that stalked them, could go the other way.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE SIXTH HOUSE - people with this placement could've had an abusive mother, or work with people who had abusive mothers or parental figures in general. might have the "fairy tale" of living in a better world. might read fairy tales to children as a part-time job, will be very into sadomasochism, or will try it once, or a couple of times. this placement signifies that they could've been publicly humiliated by their enemies, co-workers; could've been humiliated in their job. might have emotional pain from their mother figure or people that could've been hard on them in a work place. might indulge in drugs, plant-based drugs. could've been fired from a job before. will be very interested about how the human mind works, will be very structured about how they plot on their enemies, will likely win. their shadow could be them thinking they're better than other people or trying to change other people. could work in places that help them release rage, could have a lot of nightmares. might like to work in a job where you encounter demons and ghosts. can be someone who is addicted to sex, [ indicator of sex worker ] might be interested in working in a mental asylum. could've been stalked a lot. especially around their work-place.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE SEVENTH HOUSE - people with this placement could've had a mother who was in a lot of abusive relationships, therefore altering the native's perception of romantic bonds. could sometimes think they can "change" their love interests to have a better mentality. might also want to submit into something their love interest would like, doing things their lover likes, for example sadomasochism. could've been publicly humiliated by their grand-parents, their romantic partners or by their open-enemies. could've received emotional pain from their grandparents, general public, relationships, also the law? could've had a number of toxic relationships, could've been cheated on, or could've been the cheater. will think it is their responsibility to understand why their partner thinks a certain way. would be open on revenge, just to be a fair person. the shadow could be them wanting to be justice and karma and acting like God. is a very unbalanced placement so fits of rage is expected, could have nightmares of their partner cheating on them. could've had partners who carried dark enemies, could've engaged in sex a lot just to please the other person, or their partner could've thought the only way to keep the native is by sex. could've had a lot of psychotic partners and partners that were stalkers.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE - people with this placement could have a mother figure that is deceased. could have sexual trauma due to their mother figure, mother figure might've stolen money from them, could've been shown physical intimacy/porn at a young age. might be into dark and twisted fairy tales, might try sadomasochism, a type where it might involve heat? might've been sexually harassed in front of people. could have emotional pain due to their finances, might have a lot of people hate on them for no reason. could take on a lot of drugs, might have their future spouse's family not like them; will want to understand how people's minds get really dark. is a very vengeful placement, will be very cunning and sly with the way they execute it. their shadow might be a very destructive and toxic version of themselves, one that is blinded by revenge. an indicator of someone just being so bitter and vengeful, anger issues is prominent with people who have this. could have nightmares about sexual abuse. could've encountered a lot of demons and evil bodies. can be obsessive about sex, make sure it doesnt overtake thy morals. could have exhibit psychotic behaviour if not too careful. could've had entities that stalked them or just had terrible occurring interactions with specific people.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE NINTH HOUSE - those who have this placement could've had a mother figure that tried to force their religious/spiritual beliefs down their throat. could be interested in working in a publishing job, might want to publish books that have twisted fairy tales? their fairy tales might include about them travelling. will be interested with being the person who is inflicting pains sexually; could have been publicly humiliated in a foreign country? or by their future spouse. might have a toxic view of life, or lack of morals. could have emotional pain from religion. might've not fit their religious standards, might be interested in religious/spiritual cults. is another placement of where some people might behave God-like and choose how someone's karma should be etc. their shadow could be their self-righteous and God-complex. could have immense anger issues, might be directed to people who try and liberate them. might have nightmares of feeling lost, might be interested with interacting with demons, ghosts, gremlins etc once third-eye is open. is an indicator of someone being a sex freak, could have a lot of sexual partners. might have a future spouse that is crazy or can have deep anger issues, their future spouse might've had stalkers. natives with this placement might be stalked while going to other countries.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE TENTH HOUSE - those who have this placement could've had a mother figure that could've been in a shady business, or someone who cared about business more than them. might imagine becoming the "big boss", might've worked in a sexual career that included sadomasochism; i'm also hearing dominatrix? is a sign of them being publicly humiliated in general, publicly humiliated by their father's side of the family, by authority, in their workplace or even by the church. if they haven't worked there, they might be open or curious too. could've received emotional pain from people who had authority over them, could've had emotional pain from the church, could have a toxic father's side of the family. father's side of the family might not like them, people with this placement might feel like people dont like them in their workplace; could've gotten fired before. might be in an occupation that involves the psychology of others, might like to take revenge on their co-workers. or work harder than them so they can reach higher-position. might be slow when it comes to plotting their vengeance. their shadow can be them being too controlling. might find the public hating them, or the public seen them angry a lot. might have nightmares of losing everything. might like to be apart of an occupation where there are ghosts and demons involved? crime scene occupations. is an indicator of someone being a sex-worker. the public might see these people as psychotic? could've had older people stalk them.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE - those who have this placement could've had a mother figure that cared about her friends more than she cared about their child. or they could've had a mother figure that didnt fit the bare-minimum mother behaviour. people who have this placement might be people who want better for their communities but execute it in ways that it get side-eyed. as the eleventh house is an indicator of taboo, there might be open to sadomasochism, might've been publicly humiliated before? might've publicly humiliated someone. could've had emotional pain from their community, also step-siblings or step-relatives, friends or from the internet. could live in a toxic environment/community. could've had toxic friends or was the toxic friends. could've been the black sheep of their friendship group, could've been left/kicked out. these people might've had their accounts banned from a social media before? could be interested about the psychology of friendship groups. could be very erratic and unpredictable when it comes to executes of vengeance. their shadow self is their extreme identity that is irregular. could have an inconsistent rage, might make other people walk on egg-shells because of how changeable they can be. could have bad-blood with ex-friendship groups. could have nightmares that involve their friends, community or the internet. could've had friends that have dark energy, friends that ghost them or they're the friend that is like that. could've had friends with benefits, many sexual partners. could've had a lot of mentally-ill friends, friends that were stalked, or some friends could've stalked these natives before.
♇ ASTEROID DARK MOON LILITH IN THE TWELFTH HOUSE - those who have this placement could have a mother that's not interested in them no more? could have a mother figure that is in prison or has been locked away or is in another country. could have a mother figure that behaves like a martyr. people with this placement might behave like a martyr or live in their head a lot. an indicator of being publicly humiliated, might've been caught speaking to themselves. or might be secretive about their interest of sadomasochism. could've had emotional pain from spirituality, the dark side that comes with it. could have a very bad mental health, might've felt really alone at times. might be interested about how the human mind can become very dark-sided or ill. can be very sneaky and secretive about how they plot their vengeance. their shadow can be their victimising self, could feel like they're being watched all the time. the type of people to rage in their head? or imagine how they rage instead of acting out on it. a big indicator of having nightmares, might've gotten used to it. might've interacted with demons, ghosts and gremlins before but in their spiritual form. [ specifically demons and ghosts ] can get lost into sexual pleasure. might've had an interaction with a succubus. could be a psycho but can hide it very well. could've had many stalkers in their life time, could've been stalked by spirits and demons before.
This may be controversial, but any post I see about any of the Liliths, I read it for all 4 of my Liliths in my and others charts,, regardless of if the post is about Black Moon Lilith (h12), Asteroid Lilith (1181), Osculating Lilith (h13), or Waldemath Lilith (h58) it always ends up being accurate
Is it possible to have multiple black moon Lilith in your birth chart? Just curious because I have black moon Lilith in 7th and 8th house 🙂
Hi! I don't think so, as it can only be in one place at a time. Is it possible you're talking about two different liliths?
There are five main ones:
Asteroid Lilith 1181
Black Moon (Mean) Lilith h12
Osculating (True) Lilith h13
Dark Moon (Waldemath) Lilith h58
Interpolated Lilith (Lunar Apogee) h21
Asteroid lilith is the only lilith placement with a physical body, the others are only theoretical points with differences in calculations.
Black moon and Asteroid Lilith are probably the two most common ones and since they're all technically 'lilith' they often get confused! To figure out which ones are showing on your chart, look at the catalogue number it's under (1181, h12, h13, h58, h21).
In terms of which one is more important/accurate, I am not sure... Many people have different opinions and there's a lot of general disagreement and lack of consensus. I'd suggest looking at each one and seeing which one sounds more accurate to you personally.
Hello! It depends honestly on what you’re looking at in your chart. Each Lilith has a different meaning. Each Lilith encompasses a certain meaning.
H13 or “True Black Moon Lilith” (Osculating) and H21 or “Mean Black Moon Lilith”: These typically deal with the sexual empowerment traits of Lilith. It also deals with temptation, vengeance, things that are forbidden, seduction, psychedelic drugs, destruction, glamour, charisma, hypnotism, altered state, radical femininity, and obsession. This Lilith deals with our obsessions and our addictions. It also deals with our subconscious and our sexual energy. As well as our wants and needs. H21 is the most commonly used Lilith.
Asteroid Lilith or 1181: This Lilith is the only tangible celestial object, and people typically have an easier time connecting to this one. This asteroid deals with refusal, non-compromise, repressed anger, personal independence, fight or flight, involvement in freedom movements, and fleeing one’s oppressor.
H58 or Dark Moon Lilith: This Lilith deals with internal conflict, the need to meet our demons, our shadow selves, trauma, fantasies of rage and retaliation, working through feelings of shame, and distorted thinking. It’s associated with our darkest and lowest vibrations and how we act during our worst times.
So I’d say use the one that you connect to the most or the one that you personally want to look into in regards to those traits. If you connect more to your H58 Lilith than your Asteroid Lilith then use that. I personally use all of them, but that’s your decision. Hope this helps!
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Waldemath lilith (h58) in your astrology natal chart
Aka dark moon lilith (btw the waldemath lilith aka the dark moon lilith (h58) haven't been confirmed by astronomers, some people said that they have seen it but some mostly don't have seen it in space so if this doesnt resonates than maybe the waldemath Lilith doesn't exist)
Waldemath lilith / dark moon lilith code : h58
Waldemath lilith aka dark moon lilith have a way more different meaning than the black moon lilith (h12,h13,h21) and the asteroid lilith (1181). The black moon lilith (h12,h13,h21) deals with sexual empowerment and taboo stuff. The asteroid lilith (1181) deals with feminism. The waldemath lilith (h58) deals with where you act when you are at your lowest in life
The waldemath lilith represents the way you act when you are at your lowest and worst in life.
Example :
I have my waldemath lilith in my 12th house, conjunct the dwarf planet eris, squaring my sun, trining my saturn and sextile my Neptune.
And i was at my lowest in life when i discovered astrology and then i went through a spiritual awakening during that time. When i was at my lowest before i went through a spiritual awakening i acted really annoying and loud (the eris energy). Also the waldemath lilith squaring my sun makes me when i was at my lowest not acting like my own self. And my waldemath lilith sextile neptune and trine my saturn kinda helps me stabilize and balanced me when i was at my lowest.
Could you do a post on people with Lilith in the 1st house? 🌷
yes I can ! I'll start off with a small tip here:
Your personal power comes from your desire to go after the things you want no matter how crazy it sounds to others. Your shadow self is your vital force in moving in society and it can be a magnet and a repeller. Both are blessings.
Lilith first house babes NEED to be yourselves like its vital for you because your energy can be jacked from you because your power sucks people in like flies wanting to take more n more until theres nothing (Kind of reminds me of neptunians but will get to that).
Do not be ashamed of who you are because the reason why you were so ashamed because of something in your aura that others noticed, it makes you stand out because its connected to the mother (lilith) and the energy itself is dark. (Dark doesnt mean bad btw, just means chaotic).
And since I brought up dark/chaos , your desires could be along those lines <<< like there I say it but think of "the weekend" by sza (who is a lilith dominate with the point conjunction her entire scorpio stellium, trining her moon, and jupiter). its this act of freedom that you guys need and you tend to escape the rules that society have for you and go against the grain.
I hope this helps. but because you asked for a full post im gonna give it <3
