#tyrtle

I am not bothered they like a het ship. Like... I have my favourite M/F ships too.

But if one likes something as epic, as grand like Tomarry how can they like Tyrtle? Just curious.

If you gotta like a het Tom pairing as a Tomarry fan, surely more epic options exist?

I like Asenora's fic coz they are a spectacular writer. But I don't really see Myrtle and Tom as very credible pairing

First of all: Ship and let ship.

Personally, I haven't read a single fic where Tom (as a male) is paired with a female character (and if I have it was while being sick with fever and I forgot). I like my Tomarry m/m, thank you very much. I have read a couple fem!Tom/fem!Harry, but these are like you said - specific fics of authors I know I like (and even then I mostly opt out).

BUT!

Have you considered, that perhaps, maybe, people don't want to read about Tom being paired with an 'epic' option for a character? What even does 'epic' mean in this context??? And where did you get the idea that Tomarry is 'grand'? To me, Tom Riddle is the most competent pathetic loser there ever was. To pair him with an 'epic' woman would be an insult to said woman. I mean, come on. I don't subscribe to the hawwy side of fandom, either, but just as Tom is a pathetic loser, Harry is a pathetic winner. One of the reasons they're made for each other. Neither of them are 'grand', except for in their own mind, perhaps.

Besides, as I said, I don't read het Tom fics. For me he's either all over Harry or notoriously single and his sexuality doesn't matter.

But I do get the appeal of underdog Tom Riddle, playing the teachers' pet, being nice and charming to everyone, and Myrtle Warren, outcast in her own house (like Tom!), bullied by those she can't stand up to yet (like Tom in his first 1-4 years! It's only in his 5th year that he makes a name for himself in Slytherin house!). Myrtle is a Ravenclaw, she probably spend lots of time in the library, alone. It's not at all far fetched to assume they knew each other, talked, hey, perhaps even complained about the same people to each other!

That being said, if you don't like that ship, then don't read it. If you don't like people seriously liking that ship, then don't follow them.

If you cannot see the appeal, then that's okay - but don't make it anyone else's problem. Because that's what it is - a you problem. People will always like whatever the fuck they want. It's not for you to decide the validity of what they like. So don't go around and presume you have that right.

And btw: Tyrtle is such an hilarious ship name 😂 Reminds me of turtles... I like turtles 😁

Ofc I feel bad for Myrtle make no mistake... she's after all a heavily bullied 14-year-old who was murdered and she didn't really get justice, as both her tormentor (Olive Hornby) and killer (Tom) went scott free. Ofc she has my empathy.

But I am not gonna lie, that there exists passionate Tyrtle shippers surprise me given they don't never interact in canon. But hey a whole ass popular ship exists where characters have never interacted in canon: Jegulus, so then I shouldn't be surprised.

It's just Tyrtle along with Tom/ Hagrid are crack ships I can't believe have passionate advocates.

Some Tyrtle shippers have the gall to make fun of Tomione (Tom X Hermione) shippers saying that our ship is self insert, failing to see the irony. What makes Tyrtle/Myrtlemort not self insert?

If I ever wrote... Tyrtle (adorable) I would go full-on cringetoxic villain couple. Myrtle would think Tom's anagrams were so cool, and then they'd sic the basilisk on Olive Hornby. I'd find some way to explain the plothole around Myrtle getting killed instead of petrified, even though she wears glasses. It would be great.

Shipping is not a zero-sum game for me. When I say I ship something, what I basically mean is that if someone whose taste I trusted gave me a fic rec where that was the central pairing, I'd give it a go. On this very blog I have written (with various degrees of detail and sillyness) about Tom/Nagini, Tom/Dumbledore (I like Tom/Dumbledore), Tom/Harry, Tom/Bellatrix, Tom/Barty, Tom/Hepzibah, Tom/Hagrid... and I've got a Tom/Peter ask that I haven't answered, but that one could be compelling too. He's just kind of a fun character to ship with people, idk what to tell you.

Molly Hopper is an accomplished professional in her own right, a mortician.

Myrtle canonically never lived long enough to be anything sadly. And she was probably an average girlie nothing special. Ravenclaw doesn't automatically make you a genius.

Some Tyrtle shippers bash our ship Tomione, saying Tom will find Hermione boring, too straight and narrow, too theory obsessed.

Ok if Tom finds Mione boring why do you think he will find Myrtle interesting of all people?

And yes, in a fic you can make Myrtle hard working, academically brilliant working class girl but that would be fanfic, no matter how brilliant it is. In canon nothing is known about her except that she was a Muggleborn

I see some ppl say Tomione is reader SI and then wax poetic on Tom/Myrtle.

What makes Tomione self insertion but Tyrtle an iconic ship for the ages?

I’ve never bashed the Tomione ship (to my knowledge) and I think it’s actually a ship I’d like to explore more!

I think what made the Sherlolly-Tyrtle comparison work in my head is that both Tom and Sherlock are quite intelligent, cunning, able to plot and manipulate others but with their own dysfunctional understanding of human relationships and emotion. Molly and Myrtle are both more average, more human, more likely to understand someone crying over a breakup or dead pet.

I definitely don’t imagine a version of Myrtle where she’s comparable to Hermione- Hermione is one of my favorite HP characters! There is something very attractive to me though, in the ordinariness that is overlooked in people like Myrtle. As you said, she was probably an average girly, nothing special. I think the juxtaposition of mad raving genius and down-to-earth companion who just wants them to eat before they take over the world is comforting.

I think Tom could find Myrtle interesting not because of any genius or academic prowess but because she may have human qualities and quirks that he doesn’t understand. Why does it feel nice to have his head scratched while he plans his horcruxes? Why does he work better after a bit of making out and a nap? Maybe he can do with a bit of boring and ordinary. We truly don’t know much about Myrtle, but she does show some creepy and malevolent tendencies in canon, if not the genius of Tom Riddle. I think he might find that hot.

They’re so odd and I think that’s what draws me to them! I’ve really only read one fic that convinces me it’s plausible (Bookbinding by @saintsenara) but they remind me of Sherlock and Molly from the BBC show, my first fandom otp <3