Do you have a specific personality in mind for Bear?
Basically what I wrote in this fic!
Longer answer: Well, two or so years ago I actually did start and abandon a post analyzing Daisy, BoCo, and Bear. Lemme dust off the Bear portion:
Bear effectively only gets one story in the entire franchise—apart from mentions/minor roles in, like, three others?—and it ends with: "He had a lot to think about."
I'm always like, Yeah. I'll bet.
A major point that I think is a plain read of the text, but which some of the fandom seems to miss: Bear arrived on Sodor with similar ideas about steam engines to Spamcan. That's what the He had a lot to think about line refers to—Bear shows surprise and then thoughtfulness when he learns that, not only did Henry rescue his and Spamcan's trains, but he did so with a mechanical failure of his own.
A major flaw in fiction (especially fiction written by, like, dominant identity groups) is that it correlates racism with rudeness. When you listen to any minority group (or women... or men for that matter...), you quickly learn that's not true and that most people who have experienced prejudice or discrimination or just general categorical scorn know this very well. (I'm going to use "racism" here as a shorthand, even though it's just an example of the sort of thing we're talking about. And even though it's not really the right word for what's going on with the diesels and steam engines—but it's close! It's a simple and enlightening metaphor to analyze this RWS stuff!) Now in mainstream, dominant-culture fiction, the two are almost always intertwined. But the truth is that you can of course be rude without being racist — and you can definitely be racist without being rude.
Bear starts off his character arc in that last category... whether he knows it or not. When Spamcan sneers at the steam engines ("It's time we took this railway over... We are reliable"), Bear shuts him down. This is not because he thinks what Spamcan is saying is necessarily wrong. "After all," says Bear (emphasis mine), "it's their railway." After all. After what, exactly? Bear seems to be indirectly saying here that, after all, Spamcan is almost certainly right! It's just that, even so, he shouldn't say it. Mind you, even if Bear does think Spamcan is wrong (and there's room to believe he could), he still doesn't think it's important enough to actually address the underlying prejudice — he just wants Spamcan to shut up, to stop rocking the boat. They (he and Spamcan) are guests. And they're outnumbered by the steam engines. Have some manners... (or at least some sense of self-preservation!)
There is no sign that the steam engines are inclined to embrace Bear immediately after this. But his shutting down Spamcan is certainly noticed, even if the steam engines rightly and reasonably don't quite know what to make of Bear yet. The following day, Henry alternately side-eyes and gloats over Spamcan when the rude af prejudiced diesel is stalled out. When they come across the train with the broken-down Bear, however, Henry doesn't gloat over him and shows some willingness to help him to the extent that he can. This doesn't mean he believes Bear is trustworthy—just that he's better than Spamcan. And possibly even a decent sort, who knows. TBD!Â
It's only in the aftermath that Henry and Bear really get a chance to size each other up. Henry is gratified to find that Bear is grateful and impressed. Bear is gratified to find that Henry's really quite nice about it—and then he finds that he should be even more impressed than he thought ("You! Failed? And yet..."). It's at that point that Bear falls quiet, starting on this pile of thoughts that he must think through. Presumably both Henry's enterprising-ness, as well as his friendliness, are upending Bear's prejudices completely. He at once begins quietly deconstructing a lot of his worldview.
(Author's note: I'm sure it doesn't hurt that Bear thinks Henry looks like. a. whole-ass. meal. And he's carryin' Bear princess-style. Sorry, not sorry. It had to be said.)
I think the Hymeks' troubled career with B.R. was an important factor in Bear's thinking post-Super Rescue. I mean I suspect he would have re-evaluated his assumptions and biases about steam engines anyway because, well, he just shows no signs of being dumb. But I suspect, just as I suspect for BoCo, that there were "push" factors as well as "pull" factors in their transfer to the Fat Controller's Railway. For both I think their liking and respect for the engines they met was important. But they are both really keen to be accepted on Sodor (with BoCo this is only implied by his behavior and the outcome, with Bear it's quite explicit—we're told that he likes his new name (because "[h]aving a name means you really belong.") And I don't think either could have been that keen if they hadn't been disillusioned by mainland culture. In BoCo's case I reckon he was already coming to feel that way before we see him in canon — when we meet him, he's already well into the process of "drifting" from Barrow to Sodor. In Bear's case we get to see the exact tipping point where everything about his worldview shifts. But I'm sure he was softened up before it really all hit home for him with the Super Rescue.
As far as Bear's personality, I really draw on the patterns that I see even in his one little introductory story. In that story, we see twice that Bear is, like, not exactly one to mince words. He is not conflict-avoidant. He tells off Spamcan, including a nice hearty "Shut up!", and he carps at the coaches when his brakes fail (coz it must be their fault, obviously). This is an engine who has some definite fire in him. His introduction story reminds me of James's, actually. Certainly Bear, too, seems to leap before he looks. And his coach manners are... suboptimal. But he's not thoughtless either—we are left at the end of the story with the image of him falling quiet and doing some serious reflection.
The other few, brief glimpses of him we see throughout RWS tend to reinforce the notion that the gears definitely turn just fine in Bear's brainpan. Like there's no evidence that he's a Mensa scholar per se, but he appreciates when he's nicknamed and he can articulate why, and he can also tell the other engines what he saw go down with Fat Controller III and Old Stuck-Up with sly understated humour (James and the Diesel Engines).
This being said, when Wilbert wrote Bear his temper was on full display. While I'm sure Bear settled down and mellowed over the years (he's really quite young when we see him in "Super Rescue"), I also decline to believe that always he's quite so placid as Christopher portrays him. Christopher likes to leap beyond making most of them seem older and more responsible straight into the territory of making them all dull. Tends to file off all their rough and interesting edges. I decline, thanks. I like to imagine Bear as still being the sort to typically act first and think second. He's got some spice to him. Furthermore I wouldn't be surprised, if in the immediate aftermath of his repaint and permanent installation on Sodor he was more spicy than he was before. 1960s Other Railway was an unsafe environment and I always think that must have affected Bear (and BoCo) given that it was all they knew (and given that, as far as diesels went, they both experienced a pretty immediate and dramatic fall from grace like ten minutes after their respective classes rolled from the workshop).
Given the sudden security Bear gets to enjoy on Sodor, I would expect there would be an uptick in rash behaviour in his early NWR years. A lot like we get to see with Oliver, actually. There's a lot of blank empty promising space to build on for him in the late 60s-early 70s.
But again, even these days I would expect to see a pretty spicy, if less rash, Bear. He's a really, thoroughly decent guy. But he does have claws...
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You know, nobody's ever really brought up that Henry (at least canonically) wouldn't necessarily have the same relationship to the 1955 plan as (more or less) everyone else, since he's one of one unless you count Gordon and the A1s as his brothers which is tenuous (certainly, Gordon doesn't seem to consider him his brother if so). I wonder how his feelings toward modernisation differ from an engine from a larger class's. Are Percy's feelings toward it more similar to Henry's than everyone else's given he may be one of one (or in my view one-ish of three that never really worked together and never bonded much)? Is that the case for industrial engines in general, would an Austerity care about some J94? Would one 5700 in Northern Wales have a brotherly bond with a 5700 in Cornwall to the point of mourning that whom they don't know the name or number of?
Is this anything at all?
In other news in case the above isn't:
Where in the hell were they keeping Neil all this time? Was he plinthed or some station pilot somewhere? If there wasn't really an active preservation scene on Sodor until 2023 they had to keep the bastard somewhere, right?
Henry: Totally agree. Even though I've sometimes fleshed out ideas for Henry to have mainland connections that he develops at Crewe and during WW2, it honestly harmonizes a lot better with "Tenders for Henry" if he never does. Then the contrast between Gordon and Henry in that story makes so much more sense. Why would Henry care? His family is Sodor and always has been.
Percy: The thing is that we know Percy has "mainland" buddies. Even if he's not mourning family, he's canonically taking Modernisation very hard (Stepney the Bluebell Engine), and it would make total sense to me if he actually cared more about it than some (because, again, he's basically the only one we know for sure has cultivated acquaintances with B.R. engines).
Whether industrial engines feel kinship with classmates working elsewhere or for B.R. kind of gets at the whole question of familial bonds, doesn't it? Generally in RWS engines have familial bonds based more on proximity and, well, bonds than being mechanical classmates. Gordon is the one exception but, well. He's Gordon. He's formal and aristocrat-coded enough that you can see why his concept of family would be more legalistic.
In general, I can imagine a lot of the pain and angst of Modernisation is not about losing specific classmates that, as you say, you don't even know the number or face of. It's the terror of how fast and arbitrary the scrapping is. It's the loss of entire culture. So I do think engines with no family bonds or friends to grieve would still find that all this death hits them very hard. (I really do tend to believe that even someone like unattached Henry felt all this, too. This is just interpretation bordering on headcanon, of course, but I tend to read "Tenders for Henry" as not that Henry is hard-hearted or oblivious, it's just that all the other engines have been grappling with this the whole damn decade and Gordon is so late to the party that he's left grappling with the initial blow of it alone. Like of course Gordon was aware steam was on the back foot. I don't think he ever thought his grand, exceptional, famous, superior Doncaster cousins would all go for chop. Like he sympathized with all the lesser classes that were going extinct, he truly did, but he also didn't think this would apply to his own — certainly not that all of them would be disposed of without any explosion of scandal or objection that reached him.)
NEIL! I dunno, did we ever get that settled? Was Neil working all this time or was he stuck under a trap somewhere?
@togetherness23 posed this question some while ago. I hope my late response to the conversation can be excused as it took me a while to mull.
I think the tl;dr is that, interestingly, the colour symbolism on the NWR has some overlap, but also some divergence, with the usual associations we make with these colours.
But, as for what those associations are... well, for that you'll have to read.
BLUE: For all these colours, I think we have to take a good look at where they first cropped up on the railway. Because for later arrivals their choice of colour doesn't happen in a vacuum—the connotations have already been shaped.
So, from what we can tell, blue was the railway's original, standard color. Getting painted in it was a mark of favour (you weren't just some loaned engine—you were a North Western engine). It was also likely designed by FC1.
I'm sure for all three of the original blue bois it still holds that significance: acceptance, pride, memories. That said, each of them has their own twist on it.
I do think some of Gordon's snobbery is bound up in the colour. He's probably gotten over it now, but Gordon probably started the idea of "blue is the only color for a really useful engine," given that at first all the exceptions to the standard livery were all engines that he considered in some way to be... well... substandard. (Yes, two of the three of them were also his best friends?? Look, Gordon is weird and complex, all right. I don't know what you want me to say. I think he could consider them friends while also, compartmentalizing, be like "... there but for the grace of Gresley go I. Coming off the rails! Silly little saddletanks of questionable origins! Couldn't be me.") Thomas of course picked up on that idea. Probably he tried to resist it (sharing in a Gordon snobbery) up until the Alliance, but after that all bets were off. Now I'm thinking of it, Thomas getting the notion that blue signified his closest relationships (at that time) and therefore Gordon perhaps being right about the colour could have well be cemented when the three of them were assigned to be the royal visit dream team.
All this said, blue is also, in the books and magazines, the commonest colour for North Western engines. (TVS doesn't portray this at all; that'll be a different story.) Common. I think it speaks well of Gordon, who is so often flanderized as nothing but me! me! meeee! and who does in fact often consider himself a cut above the rest, that he also happily spent a century sporting the standard railway livery, shared by "proper" engines and little shunter tanks alike. There is a solidarity to the colour.
To a greater extent than Gordon (though it's not exactly non-existent with him), I think blue also represents for Thomas and Edward the history and origins of the railway they both helped to build "from the ground up." For all five of the blue engines, actually, blue seems to be associated with tradition and dare I say a sense of loyalty and collective identity. Donald and Douglas have been very explicit that blue represents their own origins on the Caledonian. It also however represents their own acceptance on the North Western, which is something that is very important to them.
This is speculation, but I would add that I think for Edward there is, in addition to the previous paragraphs, an association of blue with water and the sea, which (especially assuming his Furness shed was Barrow, which makes sense if he wound up sort of being shifted over to Sodor bit by bit) has been an important element of his entire life, both pre- and post-Sodor. So there is a parallel here to Donald and Douglas, where blue was not their original livery, but it has associations that resonate with their past even as it shows they are very much living in the present.
However, in TVS we strip Donald and Douglas off team blue and we also lack the assorted background characters who wear the livery. In that case it loses a bit of its association with humility but gains a certain distinction. There are then only three engines who wear it. And, to be sure, they all denote a certain leadership as well as just longevity. I've said it before but it's still true: if I live on North Western rails and I want something big to be done or changed, I probably am best advised to apply to Gordon, Edward, or Thomas. In roughly that order, though of course it depends on exactly what the matter is. And, if I can somehow manage to get the support of all three of them, then the matter's pretty much settled.
Keywords: traditions, collective identity, origins of the railway, loyalty; a slight emphasis on oneself as a company engine; (TVS only) leadership
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GREEN: For Henry and Percy, green represents individuality. It is definitely a soft opposite to the way that blue on this railway represents the collective.
Henry arrived in green, so it represented his origins and all his troubled early history. We saw that he rejected it for a while in his youth in favour of blue—explicitly in order to "be like Edward," and I don't doubt, it was (or became) an attempt to also get in on Gordon's and even Thomas's deal too, as favourites of the Fat Controller. It's interesting how in the books he realized—even before his whole physical rehabilitation thing—that there is no point in trying to be like someone else, no matter how much a sense of friendship or admiration (or envy?) you feel. It's incredibly cool how, even before he'd proven himself, he started being true to himself.
He had to be at least a little annoyed when Percy—cheeky little industrial—arrived in green, and stayed green. Before Percy, Henry appears to have been the only green engine so, like James, it was a special colour, you know. For a special engine. But with both Henry and Percy in green, there's no doubt that other engines pointed out quite explicitly that on the North Western green seemed to represent dubious, non-standard engines of no respectable origin!
It's also worth noting that Henry had to be repainted after his rebuild and so he had another chance to choose, and despite everything (because of everything?) he chose green again. For Henry green represents owning his whole history and being comfortable in his own... erm... paint I guess.
No doubt that Henry also has very positive associations of green with forests and nature. Not only is the colour the same, but in both cases he chose what was not at all an obvious thing for an engine in his position to like and made it his own.
I think for Percy it's all a little less complex, but similar. It represents his origins: "I've always been green!" Like Henry, he's comfortable with who he is. Also, to be frank, he thinks he looks good in it ("Excuse you????? Everyone says I'm handsome!") Let's not lie, he's right; he'd probably look very silly in any other colour. When Henry returned in his new shape and was oohed and aahed over, I reckon it would have cemented the association of green with handsome in Percy's mind.
FWIW it works for Rex too. Perfectly confident guy, nothing to prove.
What about Duck and Oliver? Well, what about them? They don't wear a colour; they wear another railway's livery. Like, I don't think green has quite the same associations for them as it does with Henry and Percy (also, I'm sure it's a different shade of green, so there's that). Interestingly, while for most of the engines I think we can assume the colour they wear is also their personal favourite, I don't think we can assume that for Duck and Oliver at all. My guess is the Duck's favorite is blue (color of the horizon and the sea) and Oliver's is red (or something else kind of badass or Aries or pulp-heroic-esque), but this is pure speculation.
Then there's Daisy and BoCo and Bear. And... it's tough to know whether their green is in the Henry&Percy category or the Duck&Oliver category. I do subscribe to the headcanon that Bear associates his green with Henry's green just because of the literary closure. And for what it's worth, I very much hope the diesels are in the lighter green of Bear's last illustration in EE and Daisy and BoCo's TVs models instead of BR green because they absolutely slay in the former. If so, it would suit, as I think all of them do in fact follow that established symbolism in the Henry&Percy green of individualism and being comfortable with yourself.Â
Keywords: self-respect, self-esteem, self-confidence; individuality; wholeness; a slight emphasis on a sense of oneself as one's own engine
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RED: I mean, James has been pretty explicit about what red represents to him. Splendid. Admirable. Unique. Un-overlook-able. Beloved. Unique. Special.
I said green represented individuality, which may have occasioned surprise. But I don't think red represents individuality as much as it does aspiration and ambition.
This also holds true for other red characters in TVS, which is nice. Arthur seems worlds apart from James in personality and values, but like James he is ambitious. He wants to shine! A sort of perfectionism in them both, perhaps? James can't abide physical dirt, and Arthur can't abide a spot on his record.
When Rosie goes red, too, it can be seen as a sort of aspiration. She hasn't been taken seriously enough to suit her in the past, so (whether rightly or, as Moonie might argue, wrongly!) tries on red, which on this railway has become the colour of distinction. It's waving a flag: Take notice of me! I'm prepared to show my worth—bring it on!
It maybe works for Mike too?
Green is "i'm comfortable with myself, i don't have anything to prove." Red is "i have plenty to prove, there's something in particular i want to be known and recognised for."
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BROWN: I'm not sure what to make of this one because I feel like Toby might actually be a case similar to Duck and Oliver? Inasmuch as he wears brown because his livery is a callback (if, unlike the Great Western bois, not an exact reproduction) to his old LNER livery?
If Toby has any colour symbolism to go in for, it's probably in the one aspect of his (RWS) paintwork that is new—his sideplates and cowcatchers in the book are painted in blue, in fact what is probably the NWR's signature blue. This would in fact give him the similar associations of the blue boys, and, honestly? It would fit.
But, with both the brown and the blue alike, I think it's worth noting that in RWS we see the Fat Controller decide on Toby's new colours:
It's a useful reminder that sometimes (most times) the engines appear to have chosen their colours, but that other times (and, perhaps, this was true for all of them early on, even if they could change in these times of more liberal management) their colours are chosen for them. And in those latter cases, their colour probably then takes on a significance for the engines because it is also a reminder of the director/controller* who cared enough about them to give it to them.
*or driver? heh. though i'm sure awdry, if asked, would have retconned the end of 'edward and gordon' such that a more likely person made the call about the paint job. though this also goes to the point—relevant also to the paragraph above—that awdry wavered wildly back and forth on how much agency he wanted to give the engines versus how much he wanted to be realistic, and that this probably accounts for the various ways in which they appear to acquire their colours in the books
Okay. But if brown does mean something to Toby because it's brown, and not just his old livery? It would represent his origins, of course, and probably the earth; he's always dealt in produce and farms and now quarries, so the earth is an important theme connecting his pre- and post-Sodor life.
Also... (sorry, Moonie)... I deeply dislike Murdoch's paintwork in TVS. So, let me unveil my personal headcanon, which is that he is in fact painted chocolate (because that would be scrumptious) and then, in this timeline, you'd start to have a vibe on this railway that brown is the colour of engines who are the earthy, strong, silent reliable, reserved type.
(Again, I know you like his paintwork a lot and I do not mean to bash that at all! That said, riddle me this: Would it even be possible to draw a line connecting the values of Murdoch, Nia, and Billy? I ask you.
Also—frankly, I feel we could definitely use more chocolate or umber-coloured engines on this railway! If not Murdoch, then someone—please! *mutters something about how useful and splendid engines can be brown, too*)
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Well, we've already started bleeding into TVS a bit. Let's continue venturing beyond RWS into the rather shakier grounds of TVS canon colour symbolism:
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BLACK: It's often observed that, while Donald and Douglas look better in black, it unfortunately misses the significance of blue representing both their past and present family bonds.
But maybe their TVS black is not devoid of symbolism? In RWS black does consistently seem to mean a sort of deadening corporate-ism; it's the colour of engines who are used but not particularly valued or appreciated. But that is a shame, considering that in real life black often completely slaps on an engine (especially if they are clean and matched with some colourful stock for contrast!)
So it would be nice if in TVS black didn't carry those associations. And indeed, I think you could argue in that continuity that it shifts Donald and Douglas's characters slightly to have presumably chosen that colour but it does them no real disservice. I'd say it represents a certain toughness or scrappiness. They proved their worth on Sodor by doing a job no one else wanted (snow-ploughing) and going at it with a will. The black continues to represent that—although part of the NWR family—they are proud of their role of utility engines, somewhat in contrast to some of the silly showboats that surround them. It also might have a bit of a pirate vibe? It represents them embracing their appearance essentially as it was on arrival, when they spent some time as the bad boys of the Fat Controller's railway. Add to that Donald's slyness and Douglas's outright helping a fugitive escape the braying diesels, and yeah. C'mon. Black represents their indomitable, I-don't-give-a-shit badassery!
Some might observe that Donald and Douglas continue to wear BR Lined Black, not specifically the plainer CR goods livery, and does that make sense considering their history with BR? To which I'd argue it does. Continuing to wear it (and look great in it, tbh) is an act of defiance—which of course is another thing that this colour could be said to symbolise.
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EMERALD GREEN: Emily's colour, I feel, is pretty clear! She is the railway's own Stirling Single, and she has indeed made the dark emerald she wears the sterling colour of high value and of singularity.
It's utterly gorgeous, and it sets her apart while still being practical and in good taste (arguably, a lot of latter TVS liveries—some of which I like!—are rather bizarre designs for railway engines).
But with Emily's singularity does also come a sense of being just... single, too (small or large S). She seems to struggle throughout the show's run with feeling accepted or connecting to others on the level that she wants to. 💚🥺 This is all kinda similar to the red? But there's a distinction here, too, that I'm not sure I'm articulating. James does have a place. He does have friends who are like family. (We don't see as much of Arthur but I see no reason to believe he wouldn't.) James doesn't always get the recognition he wants but he has roots, a role, a clear identity. Emily spends season after season either explicitly or implicitly searching for Her Place.
Anyway, her dark emerald is definitely a very royal colour, which comes with all the burdens as well as the prerogatives thereof.
It doesn't work for Peter Sam; if we must lump the narrow- and standard-gauge together then I'd put Peter Sam in the Henry&Percy green category for colour significance.
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YELLOW: Yes, while Molly's and Rebecca's liveries are rather different in design, I feel comfortable drawing some conclusions about their yellow. What's tougher is the relative paucity of material to work with re: Molly but let's give it a go.
Probably the typical associations of yellow are in play on the NWR, given Rebecca's sunny and optimistic personality. Molly is much shyer and more anxious but it's not at all a stretch to think that either she (or someone else, like TFC) chose yellow for her in that same spirit of hope. Given that they both seem to arrive on Sodor well past mainland dieselisation it's possible that they were both purchased from scrap and also (given Molly's greater age, and given how many seasons apparently pass before Rebecca's arrival) that they would have had to wait a very long time to be restored. So in their yellow colour there would be an element of a fresh start, a new life, and hope fulfilled.
I'd also hazard that (especially in TFC's mind, if he proposed this colour for them) that yellow represents renewal in another way. While to some degree probably all the TVS engines are acquired for their interest to steam enthusiasts, a Claude and a Light Pacific would probably be particular jewels in the NWR collection. I reckon the yellow literally highlights that status. It also gives a sense that, while they very much "fit in" on the Sodor fleet, that they are in some way a fresh, updated version of, say, long-standing stalwarts like Edward and Gordon. (I didn't say updated as in better but, c'mon. Think like you're the NWR promotional team, all right? And don't come after me.)
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PURPLE: Since in the books the non-NWR railways don't, like, really do anything but boring bog-standard liveries I've mostly been ignoring them and I will also be ignoring the Culdee Fell engines.
I think this leaves Charlie and Ryan. They seem very different sorts, but in both cases there is something rather... subordinate about them? They're both quite eager to be liked, and I'd say that this is what the colour symbolises on the NWR. Not the high-flown associations purple has for most of us, but a signifier that the engine in question just wants to be able to vibe and live in harmony. Charlie's idea of having a good time involves a lot of laughs and bonding, and Ryan's idea of having a good time revolves around being a Very Good Boi, but in both cases I really feel that their end goal is as simple as that. The simple life. Happiness.Â
We don't know a single thing about Ivo Hugh's whole deal but honestly my gut tells me that this works as an element for him too (for the many people who headcanon him as purple in a television-flavoured SR).