DEAR SAMCAIT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS: Donāt you think you owe Sam and Cait an apology for calling them liars?
I knew there was something wrong with that PHOTO. I knew there was a reason they were reluctant to post it.
It turns out that like they have done before (see POST1 and POST2),Ā certain SamCait conspiracy theoristsĀ bragged about a photo before they thoroughly examined it. True to form, it happened again.
Based on a photo that certain ES claimed was taken in Dublin on Motherās Day weekend, the ES constructed a whole scenario (see POST 3) where Sam and Cait went to Ireland to visit Caitās mother and see a play and lied about where they were. They also came up with two other playsĀ in London that they claimed Sam and Cait attended together before the Dublin play (like anyone sees three plays in a few days š) and found two Faux Sams and one Faux Cait in theater photos that have since been debunked (see POST 4Ā and POST 5).Ā
And now we have a different group of SamCait conspiracy theorists (SIS Brazil) discovering that the āsmoking gunā photo wasnāt taken in Dublin but in Glasgow!
I want to congratulate SIS Brazil on posting the truth even though it deflated the SamCait balloon a tad. š
Sam and Cait are good friends. They are both actors. Of course they are going to see plays together sometimes. That doesnāt make them a couple.
Anyway, when certain SamCait conspiracy theoristsĀ thought the photo was from Dublin, they called Sam and Cait liars and called for them to be outed!
This was just another example of how certain SamCait conspiracy theorists so believe their own BS that they allow themselves to get self-righteously angry at Cait and/ or Sam over and over again.
As far as Iām concerned, 95% of their SamCaitĀ āreceiptsā and āsourcesā are bogus or verra questionable. Consequently, I believe there really is little substance to the narrative that SamCait conspiracy theorists are pushing. Given the huge margin of error in what they believe, that these women let themselves get so worked up about all this BS and regularly lash out at Cait and/ or Sam is really unconscionable.Ā
But this time some of their own group found the error in their narrative.
So Iām waiting to see the ones who called Sam and CaitĀ āliarsā regarding all this apologize to Sam and Cait.Ā
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Theater-gate and the Assumptions of an ES SamCait Late March āTimelineā
An anon was sent to an NST (Ā @bestof60 ) about the theater picture. I didnāt want to hijack that bloggerās post with a long response, so I am commenting separately here. This was the anon:
āThe pic was always in Dublin while both Cait and Sam were saying they were elsewhere. Why the diversion? If it is only friends going to the theater, no problem. No need for a cover up. And no, Tony was not there.ā
The reality is this anon is making anĀ assumptionĀ about Sam and Cait creating a ādiversionā to hide their going to a play together in Ireland. Below the cut of this post, I will challenge this assumption in detail.
BTW, this is even more of an assumption because as far as I know we donāt know for sure the photo was from Dublin. The last I heard, a certain ES was only ā80%ā certain that the photo was taken in Dublin. If someone knows definitely where and when the photo was taken, please let me know so we can resolve some of this. But until I see this information, it is all speculation.
I also want to point out that Sam often tried to keep his rendezvous with both MacKenzie and Abbie under the radar. Yet, ES never assumed because he did so that those relationships were real. Double standard much?
An ESĀ āTimelineā for a Secret SamCait Rendezvous
To better understand all the assumptions ES are making about this photo, letās look at a ātimelineā of SamCait activity around that weekend that one anon on an ES blog thought was relevant to understanding the context of the photo.
āMy timeline: March 24th: Cait liked an erotic photo with Wicked Game song lyrics and the tag #thinking on you; March 25th: Sam posted a photo of him in Hawaii. Cait comments āmaking love to the landā; March 26th Sam in Glasgow by the morning and goes later with Cait to London and both watch Cillianās play; March 27th: both watch Gillianās play. Cait posts Yeats love poem; March 30th: they go to Ireland til April 1st when they come back to London meeting Cree. April 2nd both back to Glasgow.ā
The blogger who received the anon agreed with the timeline. So this is what at least some ES are thinking. They believe that between March 30th and April 1st Sam and Cait went to Ireland together--but they were also with each other for four days before the Irish trip and for a day or two afterwards.Ā So letās look at the timeline and some of the assumptions behind it.
Questioning the ES Timeline
First of all, this anon claims that Sam and Cait saw three plays sometime between March 26th and March 31st: āCillianās play,āĀ āGillianās play,ā and the unknown Dublin play.
THREE PLAYS IN FIVE OR SIX DAYS!
Iām exhausted just thinking about it!
Yes, I know that Sam and Cait are actors but that is a lot of concentrated theater in a very short period of time. Most people would be emotionally exhausted by it. In my experience, live theater resonates at a deeper level for an audience than film or TV does. The emotions in the room at times can feel palpable. It makes more sense to me that Cait went toĀ āCillianās playā as well as the Dublin play (assuming she saw it in Dublin that weekend) and that Sam went toĀ āGillianās playā as well as the Dublin play.
I might believe each of them saw two plays in close proximity. But three is pushing it!
Below the cut, I will look at the specific claims in the timeline and point out when there isnāt sufficient evidence to support the implicit assumptions. I will also challenge the belief the ES have that Sam and CaitĀ āliedā to the fandom to cover up a romantic rendezvous.
āMarch 24th: Cait liked an erotic photo with Wicked Game song lyrics and the tag #thinking on you.ā
Yes, Cait liked that post--but we have no idea why she did.
She could have liked the photo &/or she might have liked the lyrics &/or she might have liked the hashtag. Furthermore, some ES seemed to assume she was missing Sam. If she was missing anyone, maybe it was Tony. Maybe Tony was away at the time. We have no idea. Honestly, it is total speculation why Cait liked that post.Ā
āMarch 25th: Sam posted a photo of him in Hawaii. Cait comments āmaking love to the land.āā
Well, yes Sam did post an older photo from Hawaii.Ā
Caitās comment (especially when you see the whole thing) just looks like she is having fun teasing Sam. It appears that some ES are thinking there is someĀ āsubtextā about the comment regarding their having both been in Hawaii (within weeks of each other). There is honestly no solid evidence to indicate they had ever been there together. So if they hadnāt been there together, there was no subtext that I can think of. Otherwise, it is all just speculation.
āMarch 26th Sam in Glasgow by the morning and goes later with Cait to London and both watch Cillianās play.ā
Yes, Sam was in Glasgow on the 26th. Of course the ES wanted to assume he left immediately. They thought it was telling that he wasnāt in the actual photo of the gym. (Maybe it was because he was taking the video?)
They also believed that his tour of the studio was an old video from January. it might have been but it is also possible this is a recurring series of videos for Sam. Perhaps each time he returns to the studio after a long break he will show himself walking past the photos. (For more about the video controversy see this POST.) The reality is we donāt know whether the video was old or not. But to assume Sam posted it as a way of hiding his rendezvous with Cait is a huge assumption.
And yes, Cait went to see Cillianās play. But I donāt think she went with Sam.
The ES found this PHOTOĀ of someone sitting at the Barbican Theatre, who looked like Sam when the photo was lightened.
However, when I found a photo of the audience for that same play at the same time, it appeared that Faux Sam was sitting next to some balding man and someone with light hair. Not Cait. (As a matter of fact, there were also two people in the audience who looked a bit like Cait and Tony. I circled them in red. It was probably not them but who knows?)
From what I could tell, there was no one in the wider audience PHOTO who looked like Sam and Cait together. So my assumption is that Sam was not there.
āMarch 27th: both watch Gillianās play. Cait posts Yeats love poem.ā
On April 3rd, Sam commented on this IG post:
We donāt know exactly when Sam went to see this play. The ES assume it was March 27th. Who knows? We also do not know that Sam and Cait both went to see the play. This is total speculation on the ESā part.
On the 27th, Cait did post a Yeats poem but again the ES made the huge assumption that the poem had something to do with Sam. Most likely it had something to do with Tony--or maybe she just liked the poem, or the sky reminded her of the poem.
āMarch 30th: they go to Ireland til April 1st when they come back to London meeting Cree.ā
No idea how this ES knows when they went to Ireland during that time period (if in fact they both did). And if they went to Ireland, we also donāt know if Tony was with them. Yes, some anon was saying they knew he wasnāt at the play. But Tony might have been in Ireland but didnāt want to see the play. That doesnāt mean that Tony didnāt stay with Caitās folks while Sam and Cait went to the play.Ā
We also donāt know that if Sam went to the play with Cait that afterwards he stayed with her folks. He might have and he might not have. But even if he did, it doesnāt mean anything. Friends do stay with friendsā families from time to time you know.
Yes, it was Motherās Day weekend but it doesnāt mean that Samās being there had any special meaning, other than he was a good friend of Caitās. They could have seen the play together because they both knew someone who was in it, or because Tony didnāt want to see the play and Sam was willing to go with Cait. We simply donāt know.
And in terms of Motherās Day, I saw no evidence of Caitās mother being at the theater. You would think that taking oneās mother to the theater would be a nice present for Motherās Day, if the primary reason Cait was in Ireland was to celebrate Motherās Day with her mother. So maybe Cait was in Ireland for two reasons (the play and her mother) and Sam was in Ireland for one reason (the play.)
The reality is Sam and Cait were both off the SM location grid at that point. Valbo asked his friend in a 03.29.19Ā IG story if he thought that Sam had run away:
So we donāt know where Sam was. IMO, he didnāt try to make us think he was in Glasgow and he didnāt try to make us think he was in London. We simply had no idea where he was.
But it looks like by April 1st he may have been back in London with Steven. But honestly, I donāt know when this photo was taken.
It is also a pure assumption that Cait was with them because we have no evidence of this.Ā
āApril 2nd both back to Glasgow.ā
Cait posted about the Lady in Red cross stitch portrait on April 2nd. So she had clearly been in the studio that day. She also posted the photo of herself and her script on April 3rd.Ā
The assumption by some ES was that Cait was on the Eurostar when she took the script photo, suggesting she had taken it at some point when she was in London. This quickly became ācanonā even though it makes little sense. The Eurostar goes to the Continent and not to Glasgow, so it would have had to have been a very old photo. Also the interior of wherever Cait wasĀ doesnāt look like the Eurostar. Here are some interior photos of the Eurostar based on a google search.
The interior in Caitās photo doesnāt look like any of them as far as I can tell.
It seems to me that photo was probably taken in a car on April 2nd or 3rd as Cait was being driven to the studio.Ā
Finally, we have Sam posting this IG video from London on 04.04.19. Of course it was bright and sunny in the video and it had been overcast and raining on the 4th. But maybe Sam took it the previous day, which was more sunny.
Lots of ES assumed that Sam was hiding something because of his London post. Samās posting the video perhaps a day late doesnāt mean that Sam wasĀ āhidingā the fact that he had previously been in Dublin by pretending to be in London. If he had been in Dublin he might have flown back to London on the 1st. We donāt know. But to assume (which I think some ES did) that Sam was somehow trying to pretend he was in London when he wasnāt because of a supposed rendezvous with Cait is a stretch.
The first inkling we have of Sam being in Glasgow is this IG story from April 4th.Ā
I have no idea why the ES anon thought Sam was back in Glasgow on April 2nd. However, it really doesnāt matter if he was back on the 2nd or the 4th. He had to get back for the read through that week.Ā
Conclusion
To me it is a huge stretch to think that Sam and Cait lied about where they were to cover up a romantic rendezvous. As far as I can tell, they simply didnāt say where they were during that weekend. Is it their job to inform us every step of the way as to where they are? Of course not. They are entitled to some privacy.
And honestly, given how the ES misconstrue everything they do together as friends could you blame them if they didnāt want to announce to the world that they went to a play together?Ā
The assertion that Sam and Cait saw all three plays together is also an assumption.
The belief that it was significant that Sam was with Cait in Ireland for Motherās Day weekend supposes that Caitās primary reason for being in Ireland was to see her mother. Maybe not. Maybe the play was a whole separate thing that had to do with maybe a mutual friend being in the cast or Cait not wanting to go to the play alone (if Tony didnāt want to go or wasnāt available). The fact that Caitās mother wasnāt with them at the play (which would have been a nice gift for her on Motherās Day) suggests the play was an entirely separate thing.
The meaning of CaitāsĀ liking the erotic photo post and her comment about the Hawaii photo and her posting the Yeats poem is all speculation. We simply donāt know what she meant by doing any of those things. (And if you doubt that, think about what prompts you to like or not like anything on social media. There are often myriad reasons why you choose to like different things.)
In short, as far as Iām concerned, the theater-gate photo is not theĀ āsmoking gunā that some ES imagine it to be. It doesnāt really mean much of anything other than two friends went to a play together for unknown reasons. JMHO
The infamous photo is now in the public realm on both IG and twitter.
Well, to me it looks like two friends going to a play. No sign of any kind of affection. For all we know Tony was with them but was in the bathroom or getting refreshments. But even if Tony wasnāt there, Sam and Cait are both actors, it makes sense that they would go to a play together from time to time.Ā
Previously the ES were saying this theater was in London. Now at least one is saying they are ā80%ā sure that the theater was in Ireland. I have no idea where it was taken but 80% is not a lot of certainty. If anyone can show me with certainty when and where this photo was taken, we will have a lot more information.
It Doesnāt Change Anything Even If The Photo Was Taken in Dublin
But for the sake of argument, letās say the photo was taken in Dublin during the last weekend in March. Dublin is only an hour away from both Glasgow and London by plane. The only significance of that weekend was it was motherās day in Ireland on the 31st. But I donāt see Caitās mother in the photo. If it were a Motherās Day trip, wouldnāt it have been nice to take her to a play?
Regardless, it doesnāt mean that Sam and Cait went to visit Caitās mother because she is really his mother-in-law. They arenāt married. (And BTW marriage licenses in the UK and everywhere else in most Western countries are public information. If you are going to keep claiming they are married, find the marriage license. If not, please stop spreading that rumor.)
There could be many reasons that Sam and Cait were in Dublin at a play. They may have both gone to the play because they both knew an actor in the play. Or as Caitās friend, Sam might have decided to go with her to Ireland because she was going there that weekend and he had nothing else he wanted to do (maybe his own mother wasnāt around for Motherās Day). Maybe Tony had to do something at one of his bars and wasnāt available. Maybe Tony was there but off at the refreshment stand. Maybe Tony didnāt want to see the play. Who knows? But the reality is that Sam and Cait are friends and there could be lots of reasons they were at that play.Ā
Sam and Cait Didnāt Stage an Easter Apart
And no, Sam and Cait didnāt stage Easter Weekend to look like they were apart.Ā Cait really was in Ireland this past weekend. She was also really with Tony. That wasnāt a staged PHOTO. Tony is scarcely in the photo.Ā
Cait was in Ireland and Sam was in Glasgow for Easter weekend (see POST).
The belief that Starz or Sony would push a scenario where once again Sam and Cait had to spend a major holiday apartĀ has no basis in reality. None. This isnāt the mid-20th century. Studios canāt legally impose such intrusions into their actors lives. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant or lying (see POST). There is also no reason why a studio would want to do so, and if the studio isnāt pushing this, there is no reason that Sam and Cait would themselves want to do so (see POST).Ā
The conspiracy isnāt real. Cait is really engaged to Tony.
I am just laughing at the pathetic excuses ES are scrambling together how this was a date and that it's even worse for Cait and Tony believers that she was seen with Sam alone in Glasgow if Tony were really living there which they don't believe. So desperate and pathetic and just all because they fell for a hoax.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts anon!
I think for many of the spite shippers in particular it is all aboutĀ āsaving face.āĀ
The reality is we donāt know if Tony was at a concession stand or somewhere else in the theater when that photo was taken. Despite certain ES claiming they knew Tony wasnāt there--well, I donāt believe they knew much about this photo. They didnāt even know where or when it was taken!Ā
Tony and Cait reportedly split their time between residences in Glasgow and London. Tony does run a couple of bars in London. I assume he has to go to London sometimes when Cait canāt accompany him. So it makes sense that Cait would do things with her friends when he is not around (or even if he is around and for instance, he didnāt want to see a particular play, or when Cait just wants to spend quality time with her friends).
BTW Cait went to see Anne Kenneyās PLAY with Sophie, Marina and Marinaās boyfriend back in February 2019. Does that mean she is dating all of them?Ā š¤š
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It's so interesting to see the different shipper camps at work today. Some are immediately trying to switch focus to how they think it's even more significant that it was in Glasgow and alone. They repeat it over and over again as if to convince themselved. The others are immediately going back to emphasising how TPTB surpress Sam and Cait and how bad the "antis" are.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts anon!
Yeah, I love the repetition thing. If they repeat a faulty belief, theory or receipt enough times they assume that people will eventually accept it. Sadly, there is some truth in that or we wouldnāt keep seeing fake receipts like the Faux Sam and Cait baseball photo making the rounds over and over again.Ā š¤¦āāļø
I also love how some of the SamCait conspiracy theorists seem to blame everyone else but themselves for their disappointments.Ā š
