#theaceofarrows

I go back and forth on if Red would even use the watch or not in the scenario where Cinderella tells Bridget and her that she's the one who snitched to Beast, (maybe that's just because of all the stuff with Harry, Uma, and Hook we've added with this scenario, though) and when I do think of her using the watch it's almost always after Cinderella's execution.

Things would probably go best if it was a mash-up of canon RoR and the snitch reveal. Red sentences Cinderella to death (she's not sorry), Chloe tries to fight back against that, but unlike in canon instead of Red purposely using the watch, she uses it by accident when she and Chloe are fighting. I don't know if that's even possible or not, but let's pretend it is.

I keep replaying that scene where young Hook basically flirts with Chloe and Chloe all but challenges him to a fight, over in my head and thinking about what Red's reaction would be. Because Red's probably SO confused, thinking, "What is he doing with the people bullying my mom? Didn't mom say that they were together in high school??"

But Red's also not going to let Chloe mess with Hook too much. Chloe, someone she's just met and doesn't fully trust, and the daughter of the woman who (she thinks) killed her family, including the future version of the admittedly irritating guy in front of her. Nobody is messing with Red's dad, but Red.

I just think this is an interesting idea. I'd love to hear your thoughts, but no pressure!

I LOVE this, actually!!! And hey who says using the pocket watch by accident isn't possible? Especially when you're being shoved around in a fight?

It could be like when Red eyes Charming in canon and Chloe's like 'that's my dad'

Only it would be Red saying "hey watch it! That's my dad!"

But yeah Red's definitely going to have a few words for Hook about the fact that he 'hangs around' with the people who bullied her mother! Like "Just answer me one question....HOW DO YOU GO FROM ENJOYING HER PAIN TO HAVING FOUR KIDS?!"

One thing I would find interesting is that if Red stopped the prank here, how do Hook and Bridget get together? As it was the prank that started them off. Actually why do I see Hook wanting to recruit Red? And trying to offer her a place in the pack? I mean Red would fit in well. And Red would accept as she sees it as a way to protect Bridget and nudge Hook towards her? Wait...if Red knows that cinderella basically betrays her mother, why do I see her being determined to 'split' ella and Bridget up.

Like her telling Bridget, "Your 'best friend' got your KIDS sent to PRISON! As TODDLERS! All because she didn't like their father!"

Or imagine Red and Chloe fighting about again with Chloe insisting that her mother wouldn't do that, not to kids! And Red screaming that she did! And in doing so she ruined both Bridget's and Red's lives! Red ends up crying with younger Bridget. Which causes a whole mix of emotions because this is the first time her mother's hugged her in...she can't even remember. And part of her is screaming at herself to stop, because she can't cry in front of her mother! But younger Bridget's just soothing her and letting her cry, which just makes Red cry harder...

But yeah just something about a scenario where Red knows that Hook is her father and knows what cinderella did when going back in time appeals to me very much!

Like instead of the prank...it's their future daughter setting them up, lol

thank you!!

FKDMNRFN THEYY :cries:

In return, i'm bringing all of them to therapy.

I'm gonna say that Bridget still has her "Fine make me your villain." Moment for Auradon making her family and her live in a prison but also as a way to protect her kids. Hook can't always be with them to protect them, and she can't keep them safe if people think that she can be pushed around. To do that, she makes herself just as feared as her husband is. So Bridget and Hook become the power couple of the Isle.

Bridget and Hook are still terrifying to the rest of the Isle, but since they still have their whole family together, they'd be closer to a DSoR dynamic with their kids. They're more toughened versions of themselves than they were in Wonderland, like we said with Hook, but still good parents who love their kids and, of course, if someone messes with their family, it's off with their heads or walking the plank.

The Hooklings all have a happier childhood than in canon, having both parents, safer of not debatable but definitely happier for everyone involved. I can see Red as a mix of her canon rebel self but also DSoR, where she's the baby of the family that has two overprotective parents and three overprotective siblings.

The older kids I feel would act about the same. Overall, the differences would be Harriet having less stress over having to watch and protect her younger siblings when her dad isn't around. She still does those things, of course. It's who she is, but she doesn't need to worry about them as much with her mom being there.

Harry and CJ are the closest to canon. Harry is still a lot like Hook, but he gets to continue being a mama's boy like he was in Wonderland. CJ is still a walking ball of chaos and a hellraiser, but she gets to be a big sister and do those things with Red, and she gets to know her mom.

I can picture Bridget having a bakery in or as close as possible to pirate territory. It's one of the best places to eat on the Isle because she can somehow make the rotten scraps that Auradon leaves taste good, and some of the adults who had similar things before the Isle can hardly tell the difference.

The Hooklings take turns between working at Hook's shop and the bakery. When they were little, Hook would bring CJ and Red to his shop because it's closer to the Jolly Roger (where they all live) and the younger girls liked to stab the customers with fish hooks and throw bait at them.

Harriet and Harry would go with Bridget to the bakery because Harriet was old enough to be away from the ship for long periods, and she liked helping Bridget bake. Harry went because he liked following Bridget around (mama's boy), and he liked throwing flour at Harriet and taste testing.

Bridget is constantly telling the Merlin VKs that they should come by while wearing a threatening smile. They do not. They're not that stupid. This goes on for sixteen years straight. She's not actually going to poison them to death. Hook would be upset. And if something happened to Uliana, that would upset Uma, which would upset Harry, which would upset Bridget

Uliana is constantly smacking cookies and cupcakes out of Uriah's, Marissa's, and Uma's hands. They know they're not allowed to eat anything from the bakery, but their friends are always eating them, so why can't they? Bridget's not going to poison the kids. She's not that evil. And again, that would upset her kids.

Bridget raged when the Core Four were chosen to go to Auradon in D1, and none of her four kids were. Come D2, she's incredibly proud that Harry and the Lost Revenge crew kidnapped the King of Auradon.

As you can see, I have so many thoughts on this. This is what I got for now.

THIS! Oh I love this! It's like the perfect combination of them being hardened but still being loving parents!

I'm not too sure how exactly they would have a bakery on the isle with no real access to things like flour. But I love the idea! So maybe it's flourless treats! And with them running both a fish shop and a bakery, two food sources. They really would be at the top of the 'food chain'. Probably just under Hades. The adult villains who have brains would be tripping over themselves to make alliances.

Though, imagine Red being born and Bridget just looks at Hook and says "She's our last child." There is no way she's going to bring another child into a place with no medical system And all the kids would have...well as happier childhood as they can growing up in a prison when innocent.

Little Harry following Bridget around is adorable, he would guard her with his life and make his daddy proud! :D And CJ actaully knowing her mom my heart! Yes!

And yeah I can see Bridget screaming her head off the day she finds out the Core Four got picked. Like after everything Maleficent's done to the others of the Isle taking what little good food they do get and leaving the rest to suffer...it's still her child that gets picked?! It would enrage her.

But the more time that passed that Hook was free, she suspected that Bridget had "fallen under Hooks spell" and that she was harboring him in Wonderland. And so she told Beast her suspicions and said that if Hook was hiding in Wonderland, it was because he was manipulating Bridget, and if so, Bridget should be pardoned because she wasn't "thinking straight".

So, during the AP coup, Cinderella said something to Bridget like, "I know this isn't the real you," and something about how being with a villain for years had and still was influencing her behavior even after so long away from him. When Bridget denies this, Cinderella says something along the lines of Hook being taken to the Isle of the Lost was for what was for Bridget's own good because he's a villain.

Just imagine the absolute fury that Bridget feels after this revolution because this, more than anything, is the ultimate betrayal. Her once best friend was not only the reason her husband was taken away from her but also her oldest children who were so young. On top of all that, Bridget still thinks that her family is DEAD.

Oh gods....I'd never thought I say this, but NO WONDER Bridget beheaded her! In this context, cinderella is basically either indirectly or directly responsible for EVERYTHING that went WRONG in Bridget's life!

In this context, I can actually get BEHIND Red pronouncing cinderella as a traitor...because she WAS a traitor. She took away the one bit of happiness her friend found! She took away Red's chance of a CHILDHOOD!

And the sad, ironic thing is is that HOOK was probably the most HONEST person out of everyone to Bridget. He never lied to her. He never hid the fact that he was a villain.

Whereas cinderella and the 'good guys' are tearing Bridget apart left and right!

This SERIOUSLY changed my perspective of the movie!

Which also got me thinking that at that point, it just became a family tradition, so Harriet also has the same tattoo with an S for Sammy. Years down the line, once Red becomes closer with the rest of her family, she gets the "family tattoo" with Ace's name.

While I personally don't see CJ getting married or being in a long-term relationship, I do think that she'd get just the compass tattoo itself.

I love this headcanon!!!! :D

It's like they took the 'home isn't a place, it's that person/people' saying literally. It's so cool!

Oooo why am I picturing that the first time the family see Red's tat with Ace's name/letter. They are just like 'Yup she's found her person. You don't get the 'family tattoo for just anyone. lol

Yeah I agree about CJ I know Ginny and I paired her off and gave her kids but he was an oc in canon there just doesn't seem to be anyone she matches well with that isn't pure evil (Zevon) So yeah she'd be the childfree one of the family.

Maybe Chad told Cinderella about how scared he was when Audrey locked him in the closet and then how when he was finally let out there was this "scary looking dude who was laughing like a crazy person! And I think he was holding some kind of weird hook looking thingy?!"

And while Chad was running away too fast to pay much attention to what else he looked like. Cinderella has suspicions of just who that boy was, or more accurately, whose son that boy was.

I like to imagine that at some point, relatively soon after D3, someone writes an article on what all happened during the time Audrey had Maleficent's scepter. And since they helped, plus maybe as a way to get more positive publicity for VKs, it features the Sea Three and has pictures of them.

So, a few weeks after the Audrey scepter mess, Charming is reading the article one mourning at breakfast and Chad, who's at home because of all that happened, looks over and sees Harry's picture and goes, "That's him! That's crazy laughing, guy!" And when Cinderella looks, her suspicions are confirmed that it was Hook's son. Hook's son was near her own son, and that scares her.

I think it'd be pretty plausible for Cinderella to think that the 'laughing incident' was somehow Harry's way, maybe Hook's way even, of taunting her. Even though (1) neither Hook nor Harry knew she was the reason Beast knew where to look for Hook in the first place. (2) Harry didn't know who Chad was. He just thought it was funny, and well, he was right.

So, it wouldn't be out of the question for the years between D3 and RoR for Cinderella to have thought that Hook, and even if he was 'manipulating' them, his kids were waiting to get revenge for what she did. And come RoR, it's Bridget, who's the one who gets revenge, aka justice for her family.

The part with Harry and Chad in the cottage has been in my head for a while, but the other stuff seemed to work with what we've come up with. Sorry this is so long.

Never apologize! I love your long asks! :D

Okay, so I know this backstory has been fitted in pretty much for Hookheart shippers only. But it MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!

Even if Harry was taken away from Bridget at age three, it's not out of this world that Hook would have told the Hooklings that their mother used to be friends with cinderella in high school over the years on the Isle. And because he wants to be honest with his kids about how he and their mother got together. He would also tell them that ella and Bridget had a falling out when he and she started dating, which left Bridget pretty broken up.

So when Harry finds out that Chad is cinderlla's son it would be the 'your mom broke my mom's heart so you'll get no friendship from me' all over again.

This may make me evil, but I kinda like the thought of deep down cinderella fearing that one day either hook or his kids would come for revenge on her. She tells herself that there's no way they can know it was her who 'snitched.' But that doesn't stop the niggling fear in the back of her mind.

But in a way...it's almost poetic that it was actually Bridget who killed her in the end. Because out of all of them, cinderella probably never worried about Bridget. But what she didn't know was she should have.

She was the catalyst in creating the bigger monster Bridget became by tipping things off to take her family so how fitting that she died from the monster she created.

Oh the deleted song from Wish? Yeah that is so Hookedheart! In a 'only caring about each other and their kids' kind of way.

Also from Hook's perspective 'I wanna see them bow in humility' in his eyes Bridget was born to have people bow to her. She's a Queen, she's his Queen they should bow. She deserves it far more than those "goody pretender heroes" in fact they should be bowing to!

(Side note we were totally robbed of having a villain couple in a Disney movie there!)