"They want to abuse children so they develop DID and OSDD."

Which yes, does sound horrible and at that time in my life I believed it without much thought, which was a stupid move. People change, and as we learned my about ourselves, met so much better people and company and so on, we no longer have anti-endogenic beliefs due to how that belief was affecting us negatively (*tldr: it was not healthy for us mentally and stunted our system), so since then we thought about the quote a lot now.

To us it now means, and in retrospect always meant:

"The acceptance of ones and others plurality, where people can be openly plural if they so wish to without bullying or hatred for being themselves."

And to me it also just means those who are on the CDD side get support and care they need. Where DID is no longer demonized, no longer has harmful stereotypes and stigma attached to it where more research and study get funded, more understanding.

Additionally, yes, plurality outside of a CDD is more recognized as something not inherently disordered and really it's own thing and often something that's 100% a self-identifiable label.

TLDR: it just means support, acceptance and awareness.

suspecting OSDD⠀⋯⠀a flag / term for one that is suspecting of being an OSDD system.

⠀term & flag made by 🪞

Anyway, Tomcat is our mood booster and this is probably the only time I’m gonna mention Tomcat in any great capacity. It’s unlikely it’ll post here as it just only really co-cons to help lift mood.

How can we have any sort of proactive discussion on the existence of plurality outside of a CDD (complex dissociative disorder) if so many of you are so quick to jump at others, throw slurs, be outright bullies, or worse (death threats, throwing slurs at them, suicide baiting, sending gore and/or other NSFW imagery)?

Now this is where I imagine people to disagree with me, but I also don't believe its a discussion minors should involve themselves in either. These discussions are stressful regardless what "side" you are on. You have people telling you that your experiences are invalid and not real, you have people making a "mockery" of a very serious, under researched and stigmatized disorder, not to say minors cannot have opinions, but participating in these discussions is not something everyone can handle.

I am also seeing an influx from "anti-endo-(character)" blogs pop up, and most of them seem to be singlets (at least ones stating as so in bios/pinned post) and as we previously stated I do not believe this is a conversation for singlets to involve themselves in. Leave. This is not your community to speak on, for, or over.

To reiterate my main point again: if you send gore/nsfw, death threats, suicide baiting, etc. you're a loser.

Nothing will ever change my mind that 99% of all system discourse is always just bullying at the end of the day with little to no actual proactive discussion.

there is no excuse for it. i don't care for what "reason", you can call out and talk civilly without resorting to nasty comments, in my opinion: it makes your comments invalidated if you have to resort to such vile words. like as we keep saying: if you can not help but to resort to name calling, bullying, harassment, telling people to hurt or kill themselves then you should not be involve yourselves in system discourse or related discussions.

there is no need for it, no justification. no matter how angry you are you should never resort to it. regardless of what ""side"" you shouldn't be doing it.

no, i don't care if they're "knowledged" in it (which side note: having an interest in psychology and/or theology gives you any right to speak over others or get to invalidate them to whatever preconceived notions)

"oh the topic interests me!" it's still not your place to speak for or over.

But for us being anti-endo was part of *our* denial process. And while I still have doubts and all that I think accepting them and more has been liberating. Of course, I understand there has been individuals that have more or less spoiled the bunch, individuals that have pushed boundaries and... lack of better words, was in fact a cunt.

But so far other than running into one or two "trans[disorder]" folks, pro-endogenic spaces has been a game changer. You wouldn't believe how much communication has improved, you wouldn't believe how much of ourselves we have discovered. As said it's been healing. And it helped us discovery our origins to be mixed origin (trauma-endo) where yes our system was a result due to childhood trauma but some headmates formed from reasons other than it.

After all, I'm nearly 27 bodily - the more people you talk with and listen to their experience with an open mind it becomes a wonderful experience. Things make sense, who am I to judge and police someone else? Peace through empathy, always. If your reaction is to send death threats or harass me via anon or otherwise then you are not emotionally enough to debate with me ever. And I am all for a good civil proactive discussion but the moment you start insulting us or others then it's an instant block.

doesn't matter the reason. whether they're discontinuing the app, had some controversies in the pass that has been sorted and publicly acknowledged and apologized for, or have stances on plurality* it does not mean you can go out of your way to harass or bully anyone.

i understand venting frustration i really do ( i have vented a lot to my friends and in other spaces) but i would NEVER go out of my way to harass anyone.