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I saw this on reddit.
Gestational carrier… you mean a living, breathing, human woman who gets artificially impregnated and undergoes severe risks before/during/after giving birth because she's of low(er) socio-economic status and in great need of money?
And why are all the people pink, but she’s blue? To reduce her to a vessel, a medical machine through which the procedure is carried out?
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there is just no reason that’ll excuse surrogacy to me. sorry. “but what about same-sex” “what about infertility!!” adopt. “oh but i want it to have my genes” too bad. we don’t all get what we want. i’m sure those kids in the adoption service want fucking parents, too, but it’s a tough life, innit?
btw i’m not saying you have to adopt. i’m not against surrogacy because i’m pro-adoption. i’m against surrogacy because women aren’t fucking incubators which you can buy, and if you want to be a parent, children aren’t something you pick and choose according to your narcissistic desires. get over urself and stop thinking ur genes are so fucking perfect that you need a “mini-me”. if u want kids ur gonna have to grow the fuck up and develop some empathy for the rest of human kind outside urself and ur partner.
As fertility science becomes more advanced and cheaper I worry about the creation of a surrogate underclass and the faux liberation of wealthy women. Allow me to explain.
Rich women who are actors or ceos or celebrities often use surrogates to have children so they can keep working, not risk their physical health and appearance, or overcome infertility. Kim Kardashian, Rebel Wilson, Tyra Banks, Elizabeth Banks, Nicole Kidman, and Lucy Lui are all examples of wealthy women who have used surrogates.
Reproductive technology which allows for surrogacy will become more accessible to middle class women. If we reach a culture where it becomes the norm for an upper middle class/middle class woman who wants children to hire a surrogate so that her professional life will not be impacted, we will see an increase of women with more social and economic influence. Pregnancy is a lot of work, after all, and affects how a woman is able to participate in her career and may be seen as a liability on that basis. The women of the upper middle class will be able to participate more in their careers, and this may create an illusion of women’s liberation.
However this isn’t possible without creating a underclass of surrogate women. Upper middle class women will have their freedom from pregnancy only because the burden will have been pushed to the less privileged women. If the surrogacy market expands in this way, more underprivileged women will be dependent on receiving a paycheck from their agency by carrying pregnancies. The ability of these women to have their own careers based on their interests and desires for themselves and the world will be hindered by the physical toll of pregnancy.
This division between women who buy the pregnancy and the women who carry the pregnancy would likely be along lines of race, and nationality which intersect heavily with class. Women aren’t liberated until all women are liberated.
This isn’t certainly going to happen on a large scale, but it’s a possible future I believe must be avoided.

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absolutely horrific. i urge you guys to be aware and mindful of how this exploitation is unfolding, as painful as it is.
OVERDUE SURROGATE PART 1
(Surrogate mother, quads, 43 weeks overdue, ready to pop, home birth, water birth, all fours, long labor and birth, in!!st, filming, too big head)
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When you introduced me to your new girlfriend, I was a little angry that you forgot my mother's memory. And also because I wouldn't be the only woman in your life anymore. But then I got used to it and it wasn't so bad. She was nice to me, and then when you told me you were getting married, I was happy for you. But then it soon turned out that she couldn't get pregnant, even though you both wanted babies. Then I agreed to carry a baby for you, but... I didn't expect quadruplets.
I didn't expect anyone to carry my daddy's babies to full term, but here I was, three weeks past my due date. I couldn't do anything without help, my body was almost ready to burst at any moment. I was on all fours naked on our living room floor, my breast pumps working nonstop. I had so much milk, it was like I had already given birth to your huge babies and needed to feed them. My belly was pressed against the carpet, hanging and sticking out all over the place. I felt like a terribly pregnant cow. I was panting heavily and I could feel your babies writhing in my huge belly, as if they never wanted to come out. My teenage body was stuck pregnant forever. I had given up hope that I would finally go into labor.
One camera was always facing my pussy, trying to capture the perfect moment when my water finally broke. The other two cameras were filming my very heavily pregnant body. Your wife, Katie, slowly crawled behind me and spread my thighs a little wider. My pussy was very swollen and a little red. She placed her hand above my pussy, on the bottom of my belly, and gently rubbed it. "It's okay, sweetie, I'll check the babies in a moment." She whispered to me soothingly, while continuing to rub. Katie always had to touch my belly. Meanwhile, you knelt next to me and rubbed my protruding belly on the onw side slowly, with reverence. You couldn't wait to finally be a father, and the proud father of quadruplets. I couldn't believe that I was going to give birth to my children and siblings at the same time...
Katie hooked up the ultrasound to a monitor and put some gel just above my pussy. One of the babies was already very low down, I was having a hard time walking because of the head and the pressure. Then she smeared it with the ultrasound and started examining the baby. "Baby A is fine, she's probably about 15 lbs." Katie announced with a big smile on her face. "She's head down, she probably won't be long before she starts coming out." Her hand rubbed my thigh soothingly and she looked at the huge baby on the monitor in awe. She was a little jealous that she didn't get to experience this, but she loved rubbing my belly and watching me get bigger and bigger. Then she moved on to the next baby and looked at him closely. "Baby B is also 15 lbs, he's a big boy. They barely have room to move around, they're all in separate amniotic sacs. Your womb must be full of amniotic fluid, sweetie."
Then your wife looked up at you. "We need to turn her over so I can't see the other babies." Katie said, and when you nodded, the two of you turned me over onto my back. My huge belly was pointing up at the sky with its gigantic form, it was too massive. You leaned into my neck to kiss it and whispered softly. "It's okay, baby girl. The babies will come out soon." Meanwhile, one of your hands reached under one of my thighs to pull it up, spreading me wide so Katie could fit in more comfortably. "You do a great job with your daddy's babies, you're so good." You continued to whisper to me. "I love you, daddy" I replied tiredly, panting, the full weight of the quadruplets weighing on me.
Katie pushed the doppler to the right of my protruding belly button to check on the third baby. "Another huge baby boy.. a 16 lbs. He looks perfectly healthy." She giggled and looked up at you proudly. To find the last baby, she had to run the ultrasound all the way to the top of my belly. "And the big girl of the litter.. an 18 lbs beauty." She giggled and turned off the machine, then handed you some paper towels. I could see the pleasure on your face as you wiped my huge belly and I kissed your cheek. Katie grabbed her phone and started videotaping me. "This is our baby girl, Vicky, our young surrogate." She reached out and patted my belly, then started rubbing it in circles. "43 weeks pregnant with quadruplets, they're huge and if they don't come soon they'll be too big to fit in her tight pussy. We have two 15lbs babies, one 16lbs and one 18lbs. This little girl has some big challenges ahead of her and here's the one who caused it." She raised her phone camera and grinned at you, then moved closer to my belly so you could see the strong kicks under my skin. I sighed heavily and moaned softly, feeling you rub my navel, then reaching under my belly and rubbing my low belly.
Not long after, you helped me walk a few laps around the living room. You held one hand on my huge belly and rubbed it soothingly, while the other held my waist. "Careful, baby girl, just at your pace" You whispered in my ear and slowly rubbed my belly, you were very hard because of my condition. "It's so heavy daddy" I moaned loudly and held on to your shoulder. The first baby was putting so much pressure on me, every step was almost painful. "Your babies are too heavy" I complained again. You continued to gently rub my huge belly and guide my steps. You knew full well that I must be going into labor. "Shhh, sweetie. Katie and I are here to help. You're amazing at carrying your siblings.." You slowly walked behind me and reached under my belly. You didn't lift it up, you just rubbed my lower belly and let me lean against your chest. I reached back and grabbed your neck, letting you to rock my body. "Huh... huh..." I tried to take deep breaths, but I was panting a lot.
Katie came over to me and stood facing me, her hands sliding over the top of my huge belly and slowly rubbing it. "You'll definitely be in labor soon, sweetie. Don't worry. These huge babies will definitely come out soon." She tried to comfort me, her stepdaughter then gave me a kiss on the forehead. She took off my breast pumps and then took me to the kitchen so she could pour it into a bottle. Meanwhile, milk was continuously flowing from my breasts, running down my belly onto the floor. I felt you grab one of my breasts and slowly rub it, and with your other hand, you rub the milk into my belly. "Oh daddy" I moaned sweetly and innocently, my head falling back against your strong chest. You smiled widely and kissed my lips as you slowly continued.
In the evening I was sitting on your lap on the couch, my breast pumps working again. My legs were spread apart, hooked into yours. But my huge belly hung between them. Katie knelt in front of me and stroked my belly with you, another day passed without me starting to go into labor and there was still almost no sign of it. The cameras recorded every intimate moment, Katie was very insistent on this. "I can't take it anymore.." I sighed heavily. "My back hurts so much too.." Then I felt your hand immediately slide over and you slowly rubbed it. "Just hold on a little longer, baby girl, you've carried my babies so beautifully so far." You kissed my ear gently. Katie bent down and started kissing my belly, then continued rubbing. "Would you like to go for a walk again? Maybe we could go out into the garden, maybe the fresh air will entice the babies out..."
You two supported me naked out into the garden, it was quite dark, so you brought a flashlight with you and illuminated my lower body, while your wife brought the doppler and her phone. She was filming me again. "Our pregnant mama cow can't really take it anymore, she needs to move. The calves will finally arrive soon." She told me teasingly, teasing me and my huge body. I was just panting very hard and leaning on your arms, every step I took was so difficult. Then the next moment a very strong contraction hit me, I screamed and clung to your shoulders. "Baby girl, are you okay?" You asked immediately and supported me with your strong arms so that I wouldn't fall. Katie also rushed over and when you shone the light between my legs again, my water suddenly broke, a lot of it was dripping down my legs and my stepmother managed to record it. "Oh, Vicky! You've finally started going into labor! We're so proud of you." She started rubbing my waist gently. "My belly hurts so much." I panted and you started feeling my belly, it was rock hard, much harder than before. "It's okay, baby girl, take a deep breath. These babies are going to be born soon." You looked into my eyes and continued to stroke my belly. "We're going to have to get her into a position where she can give birth," Katie said and she rubbed my bump too.
The next moment I found myself on all fours in the grass, your wife pressing the doppler against my heavy belly and monitoring the heartbeat of the first baby. Until then, you had been helping me through my very hard contractions. I moaned loudly and screamed when I had to, I didn't hold back. The only thing you could use to light me was the flashlight, Katie had her phone pointed completely at my pussy. "The baby is ready, sweetie, it all depends on how fast you dilate" She said and kissed the side of my stomach. "Now... how far am I now?" I asked hopefully. You leaned over and stroked my swollen pussy, then pressed your finger in lightly. "You're still very dilated, Vicky. We still have a lot of time, and these are your first babies.." You said, then sat down opposite me and let my body sag, I immediately wrapped my arms around your neck and let you rock. I cried with the rough contractions, although it helped when you rubbed my pussy. And Katie watched the baby to make sure everything was okay. It was dawn when I started to dilate, I was already eight centimeters. She slowly helped me dilate my tiny pussy with her fingers, with some circular movements, rubbing. "You're doing great, sweetie" You whispered in my ear. "Your young body is ready to push out my first baby. You're good." I felt your hand on my stomach again and I looked at you with sparkling eyes, breathing hard, tired. "I love you so much daddy... I need both of you.." I screamed with another contraction and lowered my head, pressing it against the ground.
"Daddy I have to push" I moaned in pain, suffering and clenched my hands into fists. "Good girl, you're ready, push hard!" You said smiling and started rubbing my belly. At first I started pushing as hard as I could. My belly pressed against the ground and the night air caressed my pussy. At first the pushes seemed so hopeless, there was no progress. I was panting tired and my body was sweating, my milk was flowing because my breast pumps were full and none of you wanted to go back to the house because then you would have missed part of my birth. You illuminated between my legs with your free hand, and Katie followed the baby closely. "I feel.. I feel it sliding down" I moaned after about four hours. I started pushing again, panting, at that time my pussy opened very slightly. From there it opened wider and wider, and I screamed in pain every time. Your wife opened my pussy so she could see the baby, the dark haired head was already faintly visible. "Good girl" She patted my ass. "The baby is coming slowly." It took many more hours.. I tried to push with all my might. After about two hours, the tip of the baby's head pushed out of my pussy, then slowly the rest of his head followed. "Arrghh... huh... huh...mhhhmm" I moaned and one of my hands had to rest on my lumpy bump. I pushed long and hard, but the process was so slow through my tight pussy. My stepmom took lots of pictures while she was videotaping it, while you had to rub my swollen pussy. With the next push, the baby's forehead became visible. "You need to spread your legs more" You noted, then you grabbed my thighs and spread them apart more. Katie finally put the doppler aside and focused on the first baby's huge head.
"Daddy this...this burns!" I screamed as the baby's forehead started to protrude from between my pussy, it had to expand more and more, I felt like I was about to burst. I dug my nails into the ground and felt you pull my thighs wider than before. "This head is huge!" Katie exclaimed in shock. I lowered my head, panting, when the contraction passed. I felt the many other babies writhing inside me. You took a deep breath and rubbed the side of my belly. "Just keep pushing with the next contraction, babe. It'll be okay." You patted the side of my belly and tried to encourage me. I nodded in pain. I didn't have to wait any longer, the next contraction was coming soon... "Aarrrgh!" I screamed in despair and the huge head forced my pussy to stretch even wider. Your wife couldn't hold her hand back and started rubbing the baby's head. "Good girl, push, push harder!" She ordered me. "I'm tearing apart!" I cried out in despair. She felt me crown the head now, it was very painful and too big for my teen pussy. I had to keep my legs almost horizontal. It was already light when I held it here, this much progress I had made all night. You could almost hear my pussy stretching. Then suddenly the huge head popped out, a lot of water squirting out of my pussy with it. "Nice job!" You patted my ass and patted me. "Only the shoulders are left." You fondly stroked your baby's huge head, you simply couldn't believe your eyes. "It won't.. it won't work. I can't take it." I panted tiredly, I could hardly move. Your wife took a picture of the first baby's head sticking out of me. "But you still have three heads to push out, sweetie." She chuckled and started rubbing the side of my stomach.
Over the next few hours, my contractions seemed to intensify, but the process didn’t progress. The huge head just stuck out of my pussy, but I couldn’t push my shoulders out no matter how hard I tried. Katie shook her head and looked at you. “The baby’s stuck.” She sighed. “Maybe changing positions would help her. Go to the pool, see if the water relaxes her muscles.” You suggested. With the help of the two of you, I got up from the ground and had to keep my legs wide apart. “You can’t close your thighs!” You warned me and I nodded in pain. My huge belly bounced with my movement as you started to lead me to the outdoor pool, there was one inside. “You look incredibly sexy with that huge head between your legs!” Your wife grinned. Meanwhile, she went back into the house, got out the ultrasound and a clean towel. Then she placed the cameras around the pool, and one waterproof camera was placed at the bottom of the pool. You were grinning at me as I waddled with the big head. I was very slow and my huge breasts were constantly leaking milk, everything was completely milky... I was panting heavily and trying to rub my bump.
I was sitting on your lap in the pool, you had my legs spread wide, so wide that it almost hurt. My bottom was pressed against your manhood. The cool water soothed my aching, swollen pussy a little. Although I still couldn't see anything of the baby's head. Katie set up the cameras so that she could now record the rest of my labor in a more professional way. Then she climbed into the pool and stood between my legs. She gently stroked the inside of my thigh. "You have to push this baby out. Next time, take a deep breath and push as hard as you can." She made sure once again that the underwater camera was filming my vagina perfectly, then she started rubbing my belly.
The next contraction I honestly tried to push as hard as I could, but I still couldn't push the baby's shoulders out. I grabbed your hands and squeezed them as I pushed. My thighs were shaking so much, as was my pussy. "I'm going to burst! It hurts too much!" I screamed in despair and it didn't help that you both were stroking my belly. I spent hours in agony before my shoulders finally popped out at noon. Katie didn't hesitate for a moment, she grabbed the baby and pulled him out of my tight pussy. Even in the water you could see how much amniotic fluid was coming out again. She laid the baby on my chest, who was crying loudly, and I hugged her tightly. My body was shaking from exhaustion, but I hugged my first baby tightly. "You did it, good girl." You praised me and looked at the baby with teary eyes. She was a very large overdue baby. We wrapped the towel around her and I gently stroked her body. I cried too, it was such a beautiful moment. Meanwhile, Katie took the ultrasound and started looking at baby B... She took a deep breath. "The next baby is completely breech."