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I saw this on reddit.
Gestational carrier⌠you mean a living, breathing, human woman who gets artificially impregnated and undergoes severe risks before/during/after giving birth because she's of low(er) socio-economic status and in great need of money?
And why are all the people pink, but sheâs blue? To reduce her to a vessel, a medical machine through which the procedure is carried out?
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there is just no reason thatâll excuse surrogacy to me. sorry. âbut what about same-sexâ âwhat about infertility!!â adopt. âoh but i want it to have my genesâ too bad. we donât all get what we want. iâm sure those kids in the adoption service want fucking parents, too, but itâs a tough life, innit?
btw iâm not saying you have to adopt. iâm not against surrogacy because iâm pro-adoption. iâm against surrogacy because women arenât fucking incubators which you can buy, and if you want to be a parent, children arenât something you pick and choose according to your narcissistic desires. get over urself and stop thinking ur genes are so fucking perfect that you need a âmini-meâ. if u want kids ur gonna have to grow the fuck up and develop some empathy for the rest of human kind outside urself and ur partner.
As fertility science becomes more advanced and cheaper I worry about the creation of a surrogate underclass and the faux liberation of wealthy women. Allow me to explain.
Rich women who are actors or ceos or celebrities often use surrogates to have children so they can keep working, not risk their physical health and appearance, or overcome infertility. Kim Kardashian, Rebel Wilson, Tyra Banks, Elizabeth Banks, Nicole Kidman, and Lucy Lui are all examples of wealthy women who have used surrogates.
Reproductive technology which allows for surrogacy will become more accessible to middle class women. If we reach a culture where it becomes the norm for an upper middle class/middle class woman who wants children to hire a surrogate so that her professional life will not be impacted, we will see an increase of women with more social and economic influence. Pregnancy is a lot of work, after all, and affects how a woman is able to participate in her career and may be seen as a liability on that basis. The women of the upper middle class will be able to participate more in their careers, and this may create an illusion of womenâs liberation.
However this isnât possible without creating a underclass of surrogate women. Upper middle class women will have their freedom from pregnancy only because the burden will have been pushed to the less privileged women. If the surrogacy market expands in this way, more underprivileged women will be dependent on receiving a paycheck from their agency by carrying pregnancies. The ability of these women to have their own careers based on their interests and desires for themselves and the world will be hindered by the physical toll of pregnancy.
This division between women who buy the pregnancy and the women who carry the pregnancy would likely be along lines of race, and nationality which intersect heavily with class. Women arenât liberated until all women are liberated.
This isnât certainly going to happen on a large scale, but itâs a possible future I believe must be avoided.

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absolutely horrific. i urge you guys to be aware and mindful of how this exploitation is unfolding, as painful as it is.