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When youâre so deep into the creative fandom you arenât sure if itâs a canon quote or you read it in fanfic:

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the fact that âImagine Kissing Luciferâ can be a thing and no one immediately flips the fuck out says so much about our fandom
What is this show doing to me?? I just walked into my laundry room, smelled sulfur, and yelled, "there's a demon in the house!!"
My dad just showed me his phone typing without him touching the letters. IT TOOK ME EVERYTHING to not say âYouâre phoneâs possessed.â Or âLetâs do an exorcism on your phone.â LMAO
I watched it now and I don't it. Remember in your last review you said u dislike how spn always does the same with the ambiguity; but /this/ is the thing I dislike having s/t major happen like Crowley saving Cas and it not changing/having no longlasting impact on any or their dynamic as seen with Sam/Dean/Crowley. With Crowley but also with Cas who has had one of his biggest moments in his story, is just tossed aside doing his day job and giving off screen plot updates.
Look, on good days I tell myself it just about works, right, because both Sam and Dean basically have the emotional range of a teaspoon and they donât want to talk to each other for various reasons and also weâve got this weird show, yeah, where sometimes weeks and weeks pass between two episodes, so while weâre still sitting here crying and giffing things, for them - they havenât moved on, exactly, but theyâve been on three other hunts and theyâve killed stuff and theyâve been slammed into walls and stabbed and cursed, so, who even knows.
So, yes, if you squint, it sort of makes sense.
But also: it really doesnât. Those are narrative choices, arenât they? Because Iâm still convinced Dean did say something about his mom to that social worker, Beth, and they didnât show us that. And itâs possible Sam had some awkward exchange with a librarian or a waitress or, hell, someone at Asaâs funeral - they never showed us that either. And what about nurses and doctors? I donât know how believable it is that they never need a professional to patch them up, and moments like those - youâre in shock, perhaps, and your adrenaline is still up and your heart is beating boom boom BOOM - Iâm not saying theyâd tell people about monsters, but we know they do confide in other people sometimes. Look at Dean and that priest, or Dean and werewolf widow Michelle - Iâm sure there were a lot of other cases. Theyâre only human, after all. And, well, the same goes for everything else: those dead people they carry on their backs like heavy chains and never talk about, new monsters and new freakishness thatâs never mentioned again, heavy trauma seemingly unremembered, and, yes, momentous events that apparently change nothing, like Cas being afraid to leave the Bunker and Crowleyâs suddenly selflessness.
Ultimately, I think it all comes down to the usual doublespeak. Theyâve got a show about monsters and gore, so thatâs what they keep filming. When I first joined the fandom, I asked around about this, and someone told me it was a CW problem - that all their shows are aimed at women - think Jane the Virgin, The Vampire Diaries and Supergirl - and with this one muscle cars and blazing guns extravaganza, they wanted a piece of the male demographics, so by God, theyâre fighting to keep it. I really donât know enough about any of it to have an opinion, but itâs certainly true that Supernatural is only one step removed from those old Clint Eastwood movies: cowboy stuff with a few tears thrown in. And since they know - and we know - that Sam and Dean are not like that, theyâre probably afraid that any conversation about anything will stray into chick-flick territory -
(which, ironic)
- and that will be it, goodbye male viewers and goodbye Republicans and goodbye anyone who likes to pretend men donât have feelings and never talk about anything because being worried and guilty and anxious and overwhelmed - my God, so gay - pull yourself together and walk it off.
So I understand where youâre coming from - I feel the same way. But this show is mostly subtextual, and thatâs it - love it or leave it. We spend a lot of time on those clues about Deanâs bisexuality and his love for Cas, but we could spend even more time in mapping out what goes down in all those moments we donât see. Because we know they keep in contact with people, for instance, we know they worry (look at Dean casually mentioning to Jody heâd been wondering about how the girls were). We know they probably donât eat fast food day in day out, if only because they look the way they do and theyâre not getting any younger, so someone - probably Dean - buys groceries and cooks. Weâve seen Dean ironing clothes (and that was, like, the first time in 12 season?) but we know that must be a common occurence, as is buying those clothes, which are costumes, really, so there must be some debate between them into what pyschologists wear or whatever. We know they have many painful anniversaries, and how do they spend them? We know Sam must be going through something major right now - that God he prayed to his whole life? a fraud - the archangel who whispered to him every night for years? still around, and Iâll never believe Sam canât feel his presence somehow - the people who burned him with a blowtorch? working with his mother - but itâs been weeks and weeks and Sam is just peachy. And we know a lot about Dean too - in fact, we know so much I wonât bore you with it.
[More on Crowley and Family Feud below the cut.]

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At a SPN Con
Fan: How do I show that I'm a fan of supernatural without appearing to be a Satanist?
Mark Pellegrino: I think about this... sometimes when I'm singing a song enthusiastically in my car... or lip syncing a song, which is more of what I do, and I come to a red light and on my sit I go [shrinks] because I dont want anybody to see me. And I think "Why? It's my fucking life, right? I'm experiencing joy right now and why am I letting somebody-- might sense that somebody might think I'm absurd, crush my joy?" Who cares what they think? It's your joy, embrace it.
Spn probs #18
Me during season one of spn: "Golly, I hope this show doesn't scare me w/ all the ghosts and goblins and such." Me now: "where's my heart? Oh right, ripped out of my chest by traumatic sadness, I forgot."
*when you look up the bloopers for a show and they arenât upwards of 10 minutes long and you get really disappointed*