Title: çĄçèèžâ ćŸȘç° (A Flameless Dance Does Not Equal A Cycle)
Arrangement: é»éł„
Vocals: nayuta
Album: Split Theory
Circle: EastNewSound
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Title: çĄçèèžâ ćŸȘç° (A Flameless Dance Does Not Equal A Cycle)
Arrangement: é»éł„
Vocals: nayuta
Album: Split Theory
Circle: EastNewSound
Original: Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion

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a ryden theory
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weâll keep it to events related to ryan & b or weâll have a never ending post and I donât think anyone wants that.
2004 - brendon meets ryan, becomes lead singer of the band. we know very little of this period of time so i couldnât say for sure if anything happened between that and 2006 but.. safe to assume that brendon was starstruck & probably developed some kind of crush on ryan.
2005 rolled by, and so did afycso. nothing much there either, but then came 2006.
2006 started off as the year of jac vanek and audrey kitching, girlfriends of ryan and brendon respectively. theyâre known to have exchanged messages about how one of them turned the other gay, though I canât vouch for the veracity of these screenshots.
either way, both relationships were short lived and ended in early 2006, which means that in the summer of that year, they were both decidedly single. ryan was probably still recovering from his break up, and brendon rekindled his flame for ryan (ok, i say flame but god knows how infatuated he was)
and then, june 24th, 2006, itâs myrtle beach. we all know those interviews
from greta, who was on tour with them:
Q: Tell us about your craziest touring experience.
A: On the 2006 Panic Tour, we played the House of Blues in Myrtle Beach [JUNE 24TH]. After the show, most of the bands and crew walked a mile to the beach and, having not brought our swimsuits, decided to swim in underwear or totally nude. Bob and I opted to skinny dip and, at one point, he was trying to get back to the shore but the waves were crashing over him and he was gasping for breath. I yelled to him, âBob, are you going to live? As much as I want to help you, we are both naked so I canât.â (Would have been far too awkward). Thankfully, he survived in one glorious piece.
or dream, one of the dancers:
Sat, June 24th, 2006
Itâs our last night in Florida and let me tell you⊠this finally turned into a crazy rock tour⊠lots of shenanigans happened tonight⊠but Iâll save this story for the memoirs! Every night I stand on stage and tell the crowd that Brendon is a virgin⊠letâs just put it this way⊠it ainât true!!!!
and more famously, two of ryanâs lj entries.
Sat, June 24th, 2006
Iâm the ghost in the bed.you can touch because i canât rest. and the lights are always off so I can mold you in the dark.i can shape and pretend.âi just want to have a good time, just like everybody else, but i donât want to fall apartâ
Sun, June 25, 2006
The moon bred new Atlantic life tonight.the salt burned you right out of my eyes.and secrets weâre not proud of were taken with the tide. We were all newborns with blurred vision and no sense of direction.
Today I saw cancer, cigarettes and shortness of breath.
this is why I walk to the ocean.swim with jellyfish.I may never get this chance again.
this is why if you want to kiss you should kiss.
If you want to cry you should cry, and
if you want to live you should live.
You donât have to love me. You already did. At least enough to keep me smiling from South Carolina to Virginia.itâs for lovers (orjustfriends)
This is why I do it.
now, iâm not saying it was about brendon, but ryan definitely had a fling with someone then. the first post suggests that he wants to forget about his recent breakup, and that someone can help him do so by, well, you know, sleeping with him. he doesnât seem to want to be emotionally involved, though.
from this point on, they couldâve had a friends with benefits situation going on all through the summer, which would make sense with all the summer references throughout panicâs discography. (namely âin the middle of summer,â âsummerâs on its deathbed,â etc)
on we go to late august 2006, their triumph at the vmas. thatâs where ryan met keltie for the first time, immediately sending her a note inviting her backstage. brendonâs performance was shaky that night, either because of the pressure on him, or the fact that he could tell ryan was interested by keltie. (or both!)
in august 2007, on ryanâs birthday, keltie throws him a tone deaf party in new york city, which is famously followed by him flying to seattle & a fan getting a picture of him and brendon together. now, whatâs important to know is that they did have a show on september 1st, and getting there made sense because the rest of the band already was.
however, my theory would be that thatâs where ryan finally told brendon just how serious about keltie he was, and that their casual relationship would have to end there. - which would coincide with this video  of brendon breaking down in seattle during the song casual affair
over the course of 2008 - nothing in particular to say, apart from the fact that ryan was becoming increasingly dependent on keltie and that their relationship clearly wasnât healthy.
kerrang! interview from 2008 (ew)
and something from keltie herself, from her 2010 autobiography ârockettes, rockstars and rockbottomâ
âI was a girlfriend and a taskmaster. I kept him focused, and I sewed his clothes and managed his calendar. I made sure someone came to clean the house. I did his laundry, I paid his bills on time, and I paid my bills on time but for a completely different address. I called his family with updates and sent birthday cards when necessary. I did this because I loved him and he needed help. I did this because it was only after all these things were taken care of, that [Ryan] and I could snuggle up and just be âus.ââ (RRR, p126)
this.. made ryan feel like shit, like he was pretty much useless and unworthy of love - hence, she had the world. (who could love me? i am out of my mind)
whatâs important to note is that even though she was probably in love with him by this point, she remained very much in love with her previous boyfriend at the beginning of their relationship and knew ryan was more infatuated than she was.
on brendonâs side, he had met sarah (who was dating someone else at the time) in 2008. one theory could be that he liked her so much partly because he knew ryan wouldnât move on from K.
in february 2009, ryan and keltie broke up. to me, this is when ryan and brendon fell back into old habits, brendon probably was just happy about it and didnât question it too much.
and then, somewhere between then and july 2009, brendon realised that ryan was still trying to get keltie back - and he couldnât understand why. sheâd made him feel shitty, made him dependent and had disappointed him time after time.
this - the fall out. this was when it couldnât go on anymore, when brendon realised that ryan could never see him, love him like that. he probably started to grow distant & ryan started writing songs with jon, which ultimately caused the split of the band in july 2009. Â
cape town wasnât necessarily the breaking point, although ryanâs fling there mustnât have helped.
and thatâs all i have for you today, folks. the information i have lines up with this.
tl;dr: brendon had an unrequited crush on ryan, which was intensified by the friends with benefits situation they had going on through the years. ryan didnât feel the same way.  Â
I canât believe weâre getting fresh ryden content on July 6, 2018 NINE years after the panic split........
The theory is definitely believable! Especially bc it doesnât âleave outâ that Ryan really was in love or tried to be with Keltie, while a lot of other theories discard that and make it entirely about âBrendon and Ryan against the worldâ. If that makes any sense. Unrequited love makes people do weird things and act out. Cool theory!
hey thanks!Â
and yeah, definitely. i didnât even know how important of a part of ryanâs life keltie had been until i read this post and it made a lot of things clearer! and, on top of that, i havenât yet found anything that makes me go âoh ok this makes the whole thing unbelievableâ so, yeah! iâll stick to that timeline until i do find something :â)Â
Unpopular opinion I donât believe the Theory that something happened in Cape Town , I think the song is really about what everyone says it was , Ryan meeting a girl in Capetown . Apparently the band didnât break up until 3 months after they went to capetown
i totally get where youâre coming from. i hadnât heard about that interview jon gave about that song until a little while back, and i get it, but i canât believe they still put that song out knowing very well everyone knew their last show had been in cape town. and it was about love?? jesus, the young veins, what were you thinking

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July 6, 2009, Ryan Ross and Jon walker leave Panic! At The Disco
I keep coming back to this song. I kind of consider it Captain Gancena's pre-VCC theme.
Translation: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Lyrics:_Ash_and_Snow
Subtitled.
Title: Sadistic Paranoia Arranger: é»éł„ (Kokuchou) Lyrics: ç -äž Vocals: Tsubaki Album: Split Theory Circle: EastNewSound