I wonder how much of a culture shock sp tumblr is to kids coming from sp tik tok?
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I wonder how much of a culture shock sp tumblr is to kids coming from sp tik tok?

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normally I find fandom discourse entertaining af, but this resurgence in kyle vs cartman and the question of whoās a better person (or more specifically, whether Kyle is as bad) is just tiring to read, dude
I dont get hating heiman but shipping ky/di.cartman was an abusive piece of shit to heidi but both him and kyle used her in their selfish rivalry game... he didnt like heidi until he felt like he had to save her from cartman, never showed interest before or after the fact. Heidi got the shorter end of the stick in that arc and she wasn't used as a character since thenš she deserved better
Also wendy was a hypocrite mockign her for liking cartman despite her too having a crush on him once
SP discourse on TikTok?? I don't care that I fucking hate Tik Tok anyway.
"tweek is the fourth member of craig's gang"
"actually tweek is the wendy to craig's gang"
"jimmy is the kenny of craig's gang, so he's the fourth member"
how about... not all friend groups have to follow the same rigid format? you can have more than four or five members of a friend group and one person being part of the group doesn't revoke the friend title of another!

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i love all the snotty south park fans that are likeĀ ā lMaOO theSE SoUTH PArK aUS suCk THey maKe No SeNsEĀ ā. like youāre gonna have a hoot with invader zim aus.Ā
grow up so what if people are putting your lil egg boys in weirdass situations. each episode of the show is just a different au for the boys. what do you win if you smack people in the face with theĀ ā THIS IS SUCH MISREPRESENTATION OF THE CHARACTERSSSSSSSSSSSSĀ ā stick? really? what do you win.Ā
i mean the source media is still there. its not gonna change because fans exist. put your big boy pants on once you learn to stop pissing and shitting yourself over people on the internet.Ā
sure i might be a bitch that likes to complain about people but like. yeah. just shut the fuck up for 5 seconds and close yourself off from the fandom if you cant handle the internet takin the piss out of a show. periodt. hot take over
Balance issues
Big Gay Alās Big Gay Boat Ride shows up in 1997, and while itās definitely aged, at the time itās a sympathetic and not unrealistic portrayal of a gay dude.Ā Heās not perfect but itās fine.Ā We get a few other portrayals, including Satan, who yeah is Satan but is sympathetic, his boyfriend Chris, a few mentions here and there.Ā So when Mr. Garrison is embodying every negative shitty thing said about gay dudes and Death Camp of Tolerance rolls around, and itās pointed out that hey weāre not criticizing gay people, weāre criticizing A Gay Person, and this is HIS shitty behavior, it actually works!Ā We know thatās the message, because thereās non-shitty gays in the show and weāve seen them and the nuance makes sense because thereās context.
Weāre given a range of gay characters, good to neutral to bad, so when they want to make a point about a particular part of the gay experience or how The Gays interact in society, itās very easy to do so, because thereās a wide range of characters and the world feels bigger and wider than that one āBadā Characterās behavior.
So far, trans characters in the show are:
Mr. Garrison, who is just the most garbage human being
The entire nightmare scenario involving the Mrs. Garrison episode, includingĀ ātrans dolphin Geraldā
Cartman, wanting to sneak into a bathroom
Wendy, wanting to fuck up Cartmanās plan
Randy, also a shit human, also wanting to sneak into bathrooms
Caitlyn Jenner, whose trans identity is never questioned or judged by the show but is otherwise shown as a garbage human being.
Randy Savage, wearing a ballsack thong
So yeah the idea that people need to watch the episode with nuance absolutely have a point but the show hasnāt bothered to establish any kind of context in which that nuance is possible, because the overall context of the show is trans characters are either faking it for personal gain or just genuinely shitty people.Ā The show wants to make a nuanced point while still goingĀ āof course like, you know, trans people are fineā without putting any of the narrative work into making people believe that.Ā And if you think that point should be obvious, donāt ever go on twitter, because people there are PSYCHED that south park is āmaking fun of the trans now againā.Ā And itās a fairly easy solution to just have any random average trans character be likeĀ āhey that dude is a dickā and actually present some context.Ā It just requires thought.
Ā (Sidenote: Iām NOT advocating for perfect paragons of representation, here, either, just normal, average characters to widen the boundaries of the world.Ā The bar lesbians from the 300 episode are some of my favorites because theyāre just so normal and the whole joke and plot works without being ABOUT their lesbianism except as a social group)
Anyway I got their point but the execution wasnāt great, tbh I miss Kyleās dumb little speeches because the amount of ways people misread when the show canāt execute super well is just.Ā Hurrgghhh.