Joe: [Chatter] says, "The [mcytblrsexymen] poll isn't supposed to be about real life Joe Hills, but I appreciate the effort."
Joe: The thing is, like, you know, when you talk about like hyper-dimensional monsters, like out of Lovecraft or whatever, where you can only perceive a facet of them at once in any given context. I feel like that's how youtube works.
Joe: When people are like, "Joe from this series and Joe from that series." I'm like, these are just slices of this imperceptibly broader creature. Like they're all me. They're all me. And you can't - Like, as much as somebody's like, "oh, well, I don't want this to be about the real Joe, I want it to be about this projection of Joe."
Joe: It's like, well this projection of Joe is a real slice of me. And so you really - Like, it's not like I came up with a character that I intentionally said was as different from me as possible. Because actors do that all the time. An actor who is the nicest guy in the world, can go in and be like, "I am going to play the king in Hamlet. And you know what, that guy is a murderous jerk."
Joe: Okay? The actor playing him is not necessarily a murderous jerk, but the actor playing him didn't write the part either, right? When you are improvising playing games with your friends, and you are not running off a script, that is gonna be a projection of your self, to some degree.
Cleo: Uh-huh, that's true.
Joe: And some people have higher levels of abstraction than I do, but I'm running pretty close to the metal on this, this is not a highly abstracted thing for me.
Cleo: Also true. (laughs) Joe is - Joe, Joe is very what you see is what you get.
Joe: Yeah.
Cleo: I think most of the Hermits are very close to what you get.
Joe: Yeah. Well, people are saying like Ren plays a lot of characters. Yeah, so when Ren plays a character though, he like -
Cleo: You know he's playing a character.
Joe: He devises like a script even if he's improvising. He does - he designs boundaries for that character that he improvises within. When I play Minecraft, I don't do that. I don't have boundaries, you just get whatever comes up. It's, it's still only a projection or a slice of my full self, but it's not an inaccurate one.
Joe: And if people are like, well, we're combining Joe from 10 different seasons of Hermitcraft and Joe from UHCs and Joe from the Super Hostile series; you're getting a pretty broad picture that starts to converge on reality. Like, I'd, I, I would be lying if I felt like I said you could separate that from me. So, I don't know.
Joe: [Chatter] says, "I prefer conceptualizing the character as separate from the creator, so I don't convince myself I have access to a real person that I have never met."
Joe: That's a fine delusion to have. You're attempting to counter one delusion with another though. And so that's an interesting way to double down? Like, like, I mean, I'm just saying - You, you got that doubling down on delusions, that's 3D right there. You are, wow, height, width, depth on that.
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