They are both amazingly articulate artists, and both are very open in their discussion of their craft and experiences. It’s well worth the watch. That said - from the perspective of a “shipper” - listening to DAW’s responses regarding Karen’s romantic ties is … difficult. And that’s not on her! I respect her interpretation of the character and what’s driving it: wanting independence for Karen, to be established with her own identity and agency, emotionally-safe from these vigilantes, who are somewhat toxic to her mental and physical wellbeing. (Lets face it, both Matt and Frank are! :) ) And, I can hear her frustration of how this interpretation pushes against the direction of the scriptwriters. She channels Karen’s need to find her own place in the world, and peace with her own identity, to portray Karen’s strength. She argues that Karen needs that inner certainty before she is ready to have a relationship - yet it flies in the face of Karen’s scripted behavior in DD S2 and Punisher S2, and with the script-implied intention behind her refusal to date Ellison’s nephew… And that’s not to say that Karen is supposed to be logical and unswayed by her emotions, even though she may not feel like she is able to commit… but DAW’s message is clear: nether Matt nor Frank. But… I love Karedevil. I believe they both become better people together, than they are alone. Matt - possibly more so… and that’s unfair to Karen. And the feminist part of me rubs against that knowledge, understanding that I, too, have “enslaved” Karen to Matt’s wellbeing in my fic series, through her near-unconditional love for him … And, maybe, this is something I need to think about long and hard for the future fics in my universe. To try to do more to rebalance those scales…
