#sasi analysis

so Logan says this, right?

I can’t add another video but listen to right after he says 69th.

that’s REMUS’ laugh echoing there, causing Thomas to laugh at it. The bugger.

Has anyone else noticed that the “dark sides” get revealed in reverse order to their “light side” counterparts?

Logan showed up first, and Orange is going to be last. Roman was the second side to get introduced, and Remus went sixth. Patton was the last original “light side” to show up, and Janus was the first “dark side”.

And of course, out of seven sides, Virgil showed up fourth, as his own counterpart, not fitting into either category

1. on a deleted stream (or at least, people have had trouble locating the dialogue) joan once indicated that janus' red eye was a permanent injury from orange side, but this would be too dark for the show to address. ofc joan isnt a writer on the show anymore so this could very well be scrapped/will never be considered official canon/never addressed in the show but its worth logging

2. if the above is true, isnt it interesting that its the Different eye that gets targeted?

3. in lntao, the paper logan throws hits roman's eye

4. patton and logan notably have eye accessories

5. remus and virgil have their distinct eye makeup

6. ^ why is roman the only side we know of WITHOUT something drawing attention to the eyes??

7. logan's eyes flash orange when he is upset for SOME reason. it is difficult to pin this reason because we don't know the purpose of orange yet, but it obviously corresponds with whatever he represents (ie, !!!IF!!!! orange was justice, the orange flash isnt due to raw anger, its because logan feels as though something isnt fair)

8. virgil's eyeshadow directly corresponds with his -> thomas's feelings. when thomas is upset enough, the other sides can be influenced to express dark eyeshadow WITHOUT KNOWING.

9. this means that virgil doesnt know when his eyeshadow exhibits eustress versus distress. it is a natural chameleonlike marking, in a sense (something something snake reptile chameleon reptile whatever u get what i mean)

10. virgil either had to SEE himself with purple eyeshadow or be TOLD that it happens. given the negative correlation he has with it - evidenced by the new ep saying he gets nervous about when hes less nervous because of the positive nervousness (WEVE ALL SEEN THE SHOW OK) and also evidenced by him deliberately covering it up.

11. virgil artificially enhances his black eyeshadow. he would rather seem to others unhappy and upset than show that he's happy because he views it as a weakness somehow. this is different to other sides pretending that they are "fine" so as not to cause trouble - virgil attempts to circumvent trouble by becoming its embodiment, in a sense

12. somehow subtly working in puppet!virgil's heterochromia... it could have been an aesthetic choice but i CHOOSE to believe it's deeper. something about being partially blinded? in opting to only display one side of oneself? maybe another permanent injury? maybe reminiscent of his status as both "light" and "dark?"

13. logan's eyes flashing orange is... tricky, at least, to classify. i honestly believe that this happens because logan is most easily influenced by orange or is most likely to see eye to eye with him, whether it be because their functions are similar or because logans recent treatment makes him more susceptible to the function that orange serves. EITHER WAY, i think that if ANY of the sides are pushed enough, their eyes can flash. this is based off the reality that virgil being the loudest voice (literally and figuratively) gave the others eyeshadow - this DOES NOT mean it happens to the others on their own, as it doesnt happen again. what it DOES mean is that virgil and his function had the most influence over everyone

14. OK so remember how i said that the sides werent aware of their eyeshadow? what i mean is that first, patton asked roman when he applied eyeshadow, to which roman says that he didnt - a few minutes later, roman says, "hey, patton!!! eyeshadow buddies!!" ie informing patton about it. so, again, virgil had to FIND OUT that he had eyeshadow at all, had to FIND OUT that it changes, and had to FIND A WAY to deal with it because he thought it was a problem. where am i going with this??? I DONT THINK LOGAN KNOWS THAT HIS EYES CHANGE. i think he recognizes that he feels frustrated and acts out of turn, but i dont think he knows what happens. if he does, he has to have been informed, as both remus and janus now have canonically NOTICED and remus went as far as to say something about it

15. i could go on for a while about why remus probably wants orange to be acknowledged BUT instead im going to stay on theme. does remus have eye makeup just to slay or does it serve a purpose?? given the pattern, i'd honestly guess it's indicative of something. i wonder what it would look like if we got the effect of his makeup on all the sides because for whatever reason, remus had the most influence at a certain point

16. its also established in canon that patton cannot see well without his glasses. ergo, they arent just for decoration there. i honestly love that detail because its really important to remember that theyre sides of c!THOMAS and so they share flaws and shortcomings as cthomas' person. in patton's case, he overlooks things, doesnt have all the answers, often cant make clear decisions and struggles with black and white thinking (skmething something patton sanders autistic REAL!!!)

Something abt the fact he's the only character to regularly change outfits.. The way him wearing bright colour slowly shifts to darker duller colours as the serious gets more mature and in-depth... wearing black and white in the wedding arc to ref romans/pattons black and white thinking... something abt ppl thinking his colour is pink but it's actually black and white because black and white are a lack of/make up all other colours(aka sides)... the flower shirt... man...

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so there was a part in it where the sides all place items important/relevant to them in order, and it went from Remus to Patton, like to say it was a Dark sides to Light sides order? Except it was:

Remus -> Janus -> Logan ->Virgil ->Patton->Roman

do you see it now? I'm probably over analysing but why even place Logan there instead of Virgil? what's the significance? is he actually becoming a 'dark side'? i put them quotations there because i have a different definition of what the dark/light sides are

ive been staring at my wall pretending to be on a fench talk show for an hour. it is 2am.i am having insomnia. and suddenly it is so clear to me.

first, context to this analysis: i have like 2 posts about this already but basically in POF, janus' title is denial, which leads me to believe that "deceit" as the name for his core function was made up by patton or roman in order to influence how cthomas views him. it is easier to lead chhomas away from actions that janus suggests when he is framed as something with an inherently negative connotation than something else that is neutral. denying. an be bad, but it can also be good - thomas is american, which means he is entitled to the fifth amendment right of freedom from self-incrimination which is reiterated in the miranda rights, among other 5th amendment rights. they have chosen to villify janus to scare cthomas,

who else have they done this to?

now, the actual analysis part:

when thomas as virgil delivered the angry line in SVS "i think it's ridiculous that anyone is entertaining and of this. guys, he's a liar. you literally know him as deceit." ,

most of us latched on to thatbas a hint that virgil knew janus' real name. and honestly, that was probably the intention, and i think he definitely did.

HOWEVER

we still dont know why virgil hates janus. when virgil and roman were butting heads in season 1, their conflict boiled down to 2 roots:

1. roman's grandiose ideas made virgil - and subsequently thomas - afraid of the potential failure and fallout, casing virgil to shut down roman's ideas to prevent thomas from feeling that stress and disappointment later when they feell through

2. roman was deeply offended by this and villifies virgil to insane degrees, constantly antagonizing him to the point that he (well, attempts) commits in-universe suicide. virgil would spit back at princey in self defense

BUT there was a personal element there, a kijd of fun gamewheee virgil found roman's boundless energy and optimism for the future unbearable (scary, but also, it goes against his pragmatism and clashes with his more laid back and quiet vibe), and roman disliked how virgil apulf casually dismiss anything without consideration, and thought virgil was too damj emo for his own good. there is no doubt that the two them honestly enjoyed the thrill of the banter they exchanged, even though both of them were hurt by the intentions behind. THAT whole shabang was character driven, not purpose driven, and we've seen them work through that.

we dont know what character conflict exists between janus and virgil, what past needs to be unparacked to understand why janus loves taunting virgil to make him upset and why virgil always raises to the bait so he can let out all of his anger at janus for SOMETHING. and yes, there is also the innate reality that virgil as anxiety dislikes lying or denial because he's concerned about being found out and the subsequent consequences, or of thomas seeming vain by choosing not to give up certain info/prioritizing himself, he's afraid of the social judgement and potential loss of friends there

ok? okay!

so, yes, virgil had multiple dogs in his fight of not wanting janus' ideas entertained. he has an unknown personal vendetta and messy past with him, janus represents everything that sends his nerves into overdrive -

but you know what else?

virgil knew janus as janus, not deceit.

he knew janus as denial, not deceit

"i think it's ridiculous that anyone is entertaining and of this. guys, he's a liar. you literally know him as deceit."

i think it's ridiculous you guys are entertaining any of this. you hate him, and you're listening to him. do you know what happened when you hated me? you were hellbent on shutting me down regardless of the circumstance.

you know him as deceit. you've chosen to make him seem evil. you have completely reframed him and his purpose to be EVIL. and what are you doing?? you're encouraging it. you're hearing him out.

that's not fair. that's not fair, that when i was your villain i got nothing, and now he's your villain and you're talking. show him what i saw. treat him how you treated me.

prove to me that it wasn't just ME that you hated. prove to me that it really was self defense for thomas' sake, and fucking listen to me when i say that you know him as deceit. you know him as untrustworthy.