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AAAAHHHHHHH I LOVE THEM
MY SILLLIES
Oh hey! Thatâs my good friend Logan Sanders!! Love that guy
intrulogical fans how do we feel about horatio logan and hamlet remus
logince fans how do we feel about horatio logan and hamlet roman
virgil's old name: crocus?
a lot of people subscribe to the idea that virgil is a shortening of "virgilius," as it generally holds the same meanings but fits with the nomenclature that the dark sides have. some argue it also would explain janus' comment about virgil's name in svs (i think this was just about him being a dark side, but i digress)
an idea came to me. i got curious. i did some research.
crocuses are purple flowers that bloom in early spring, and only for a short while. they're very prominent, but not native, to north america, and are named after a greek man, crocus. here are some versions of his myth:
-he is a lover to a nymph (smilax), but when the gods forbid them to marry, he turns into the flowers from sadness
-he is unhappy with his affair with the nymph and the gods turn him into the flowers
-he was a lover of hermes (GAY!!!! YIPPEE!!) who accidentally killed him (gods always be godding. gods will be gods), and it was his blood that caused the flowers to bloom and/or hermes turned him into the flowers and his blood was the stigmata
-if this sounds familiar to you, it should, as this is most definitely related to apollo and hyacinthus, whether it be a parent myth or an evolution of that myth
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so, virgil? crocus? why?
obligatory, it ends in -us. we know that -is is still a valid option for DS names because LS names go by phonetic rules and there's no reason for DS names to be any different, but still, -us
the most common type of crocus is purple - if the others saw his eustress state, i can see them naming him "crocus," maybe as a way to make fun of him initially. (because of the canon regarding how sides developed, i feel like it's safe to assume that virgil being a vague idea meant that he wouldn't have a strong enough sense of purpose or "self" to give himself or organically Have a name; see tinkerbell, how fairies know their names innately) it would give incentive to change the name later on, to show his growth out of who that person was and to distance himself
crocus gay. i can't say much more for that. actually, YES I CAN: the key formation/first real presence being towards c!thomas' first date during his young adolescence, as well as his general relationship with/regarding c!thomas' queer experiences,,,,,Yeah. again could see this as another aspect as to why it would have been a name that was a jab or just a name that made sense.
transformation. in all versions of the myth, crocus ends up taking on a different form. could have initially been in reference to the way that he changes states, from purples to black eyes, but virgil's key purpose as a character is to demonstrate growth and change. in crocus terms: rebirth, renewal, the way that spring can immediately bring with it something beautiful following the tough winters (i've even found crocuses in the snow before, so they're very resilient and can grow even in the worst, least-ideal circumstances)
crocuses are also associated with youth, in art being picked by young girls. they also only live a fairly short while, flowers dying young (like crocus in the myth), and they come very early, ie 'when spring is young.' crocus being the name for young virgil would be in line with this
crocuses can be associated with sadness or joy. that's very virgil-coded. he kicks in as stress in situations of both the positive and negative varieties.
also just mentioning the existing precedent that side names are sometimes derived from certain mythology, like janus (roman mythology) or roman+remus (biblical mythology)
can you not just hear janus drawling, "well, aren't you just a crocusssss?" after seeing virge "in action" for the first time
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Explore the crocus flower meaning and its rich symbolism of rebirth, joy, and devotion in various cultures around the world.
Crocus was a mortal youth from Greek mythology. Crocus was said by some to be the lover of Hermes, and upon the death of Crocus, the youth w
sanders sides s1: I WAS IN A DISNEY SHOW?? i turned myself into a cartoon!! haha my morality wants me to eat pasta with chocolate syrup and a bunch of crumbled up cookies XD anxiety is a bitch but we can get through this! #adulting
sanders sides s2: am i a good person? will i ever truly be satisfied with the choices i make in life? catholic guilt and childhood conditioning has caused irreparable damage to my mind and instilled in me the idea that i will never be a good person, no matter how hard i try. who am i if i can't be a good friend who's always there for others? what does my existence mean in the grand scheme of things?
this format is the indicator of every good show, without fail. the owl house, amphibia come to mind...big sucker for these

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im so awfully incredibly attracted to thomas sanders
making sasi fanart (nobody is shocked at this lol) and dude. i just. i love roman so much. heâs so. UGH
he is literally me. i am literally him. we are one
ok thank you that will be all. actually nevermind iâm not done
heâs such a great character yes but also just look at him. heâs an imaginary prince that wants a car with windshield made of diamonds, rims made of gold.
heâs stupid i love him so much. the hyperfixation is hyper tonight yall
i can't believe i spent so many years disliking roman and being annoyed by him....my shayla...he's just a cutie patootie :(( i relate to him like crazy now i love u roman sanders
Based on Definitely Nothing In Particular, but uh
Orange as Odysseus, Logan as Achilles, Patton as Patroclus
logan as achilles and patton as patroclus. i'm going to be SICK.
This fanfic shit is easy.
roman sanders wrote this
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I rewatched the jam episode today and I just love for these commercials they are basically just fantasizing their perfect advertisement and Logan automatically includes Patton in his idea. His is the first one, he doesn't know the others are going to pitch their own ideas after. He, just goes ahead and has Patton as his assistant. He includes Patton without even really thinking about it. Like... they fight but they are besties your honor
logan loves patton. i will say this forever and ever.
"we need more complex characters" yall couldnt even handle PATTON!!!!! you couldnt even handle PATTON SANDERS!!!!!!
not to immediately make another post about patton but do you think he goes into his room sometimes and looks over all of the other's old outfits from s1. because of course he'd keep those, he keeps everything. roman grabbed his own during moving on, who's to say patton doesn't have everyone else's too? if not the whole thing, maybe just parts of it. logan's tie. virgil's jacket. do you think he still clings onto them, because he needs the comfort, but doesnât have any of his friends to give it to him?
HEAVY ON LOGANS TIE OH MY GOD
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THEYRE JUST SO FUCKING SPECIAL GO ME YOUR HONOR
Okay now consider: Prinxiety hug.
didnât feel like drawing full bodies, so theyâre napping

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rewatching sanders sides when youâre older and actually conscious is so insane
i would like a hugâŚ. JUST KIDDING! i would like TWO hugs. (suddenly becomes cold and standoffish) i donât need anything or anyone and i donât want to talk about it.
janus switching from patton into logan