#prime ben

Always had this headcanon that Bad Ben is just the extremed version of Prime, like more violent, more aggressive, more arrogant. Yk characteristics that Prime already has, just not too intense. After all he's described as "the Ben who chooses the wrong decisions" not the literal evil or the opposite one. His colour pallete is the darker version of Prime's as well.

Ben has mana since he's also 1/4 Anodite, and since Bad's more extremed in everything he might just has learned some of Gwen's skills (it showed in UA that Ben's possible of doing that).

In which a weaponless dreamer yearns to be a hero, and a hero who can only save the world so many times before becoming one with itself.

Loosely inspired by "And Then There Were None", "And Then There Was Ben", "So Long, and Thanks for All the Smoothies".

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RAUGGGG I JUST SAW THIS??? Tumblr be eating my asks 😭😭

IVE ACTUALLY GOT A LOT OF THOUGHTS ON THE ALTS. I love AUs so much, so it's fantastic to just go crazy with rambling. Here you go!!

Bad Ben: Bad Ben is actually very, very interesting to me!! I love it when a good character becomes a bad character in terms of like their role. I would have LOVED to see more about him! I don't know, there's something about heros becoming villains that just makes me go bonkers. I feel like they COULD have added a slightly different color scheme, though, instead of just making him mint. By different I mean literally keeping him looking the same but inverting the white/black on him. I feel like it would have been a subtle change that could represent him deeper as a flipped version of Ben.

Ben 23: MY MUNCHKIN. I LOVE 23 SO MUCH HE'S MY SON. So I actually really do enjoy the concept of him! Someone without guidance, just doing whatever their teenage mind tells them is right at the time. I quite like him! I do think he could have been a bit more out of character, though, since Max did play a huge part in Prime Ben's life (and Max couldn't in Ben 23's). Maybe a bit more careless, but who is Ben if not careless in his actions? 23 could have been significantly more moody, at least in my opinion, because I don't think he would have gotten over Max's death and he's got the teenage brain, but otherwise, I adore him! I really wish we could have seen more of him.

Mad Ben: SEE NOW MAD IS MY SECOND FAVORITE BECAUSE I LOVE ME SOME APOCOLYPSE SHIT. The only reason he doesn't surpass Zarro Ben is because he is not a zombie. But anyway, I do like Mad! Again with the "good-guy-turned-bad-guy" trope, but also because we have confirmation that he went crazy with power and was trained under the unforgiving fist of Vilgax. It makes me INSANE and I do love him. I do think he'd find a way to break out after Mad!Rook put him in chains, though, since- y'know. He's a Ben. Ben's are known for being little bastards. Mad totally has some tricks under his sleeves.

No Watch Ben: See I'm not the biggest fan of No Watch, but I do adore him!! The only Ben in millions of Universes to have never gotten an Omnitrix? Hot DAMN. He is so very unique. I actually love him so bad, even if I don't talk about him or mention him a lot. He's always in the back of my mind just chilling out. I do believe that he is skilled when it comes to weapons, especially guns and artillery! He's just a little guy to me.

Benzarro: BENZARRO. ZARRO. ZEE. ZARRO BEN. BEN OF THE ZARRO. I LOVE HIM. SOSOSOSOSOOSOSSOSOSOSO MUCH. I LOVE ZOMBIES. Dude, if you could see 8 year old me, he'd be tweaken out so bad because ZOMBIES!! I LOVEEEE Apocalyptic Zombie Outbreak things. Benzarro is not the exception. Benzarro holds a special place in my heart as the mandatory undead character that makes a show good (jk, but I do love him so bad if you can't tell XD). Honestly, I don't have anything too bad to critic about him! I only will say that I wish his body was a little more decayed, especially on the side without the Zombitrix. I draw him with more decayed flesh and missing chunks because of it. But otherwise, I adore him SO much.

Eon: He counts, right? I actually really like Eon! Blah blah blah "Good guy is now a bad guy" shtick, but I actually do quite enjoy him! I imagine him as another version of Bad Ben instead of Prime. I think he used to have an Omnitrix, did bad things with it, and it broke along the way during one of his biggest heists. No longer having that power he relied so heavily on drove him insane, and now he wanders the Universe in search for a power just like it- not realizing he has achieved something far, far greater. I think he's cool :)

Gwen 10: I say she counts since she has an Omnitrix and would be considered an "Alt Ben" even though she's literally Gwen. But I think the concept of her is super cool! I like to imagine that she knows about her Spark, but never got too connected to it because she has the Omnitrix. She totally uses her aliens in every day life, and as a typical pre-teen, she also goes bonkers with them at times. She gets the zoomies as a Vulpimancer and denies it ever happened XD

Okay this has been bugging me but not to act like I know more about Ben 10 than one of the actual creators but this cannot be the case. Sorry in advanced for the long post.

Duncan Rouleau didn’t write this episode so I wouldn’t take his word as final for the episode regardless but Alien X-Tinction presents way too many contradictions with the original continuity for those Ben’s to actually be the same Ben’s we saw in those series.

Now may it have been the intention for them to be the same Ben’s? Absolutely but that’s not what happened in the final product. Alien Force Ben is seen very casually traveling between dimensions and is familiar with the concept of meeting multiple versions of himself and his family, which Alien Force Ben is definitely not at the level of yet, also this AF Ben is said to be a Plumber which doesn’t really happen until Darkstar Rising in Season 2 yet this Ben either hasn’t unlocked Alien X yet which would place him in season 1 or he did unlock Alien X but he named the transformation something else whichever explanation it is neither of those happened in Ben 10 Alien Force so the AF Ben we see in Alien X-Tinction is ruled out as being Prime Alien Force Ben.

The 10 year old Ben we see is the only one I think you could argue being Ben Prime maybe Omniverse Ben but I don’t think so especially with his appearance in the Forge of Creation but we know afterwards that young Ben thought it was just a dream, there’s nothing to indicate that these Ben’s lost their memories after they go back to their dimensions.

The Ultimate Alien Ben’s Ultimatrix is obviously backwards as everyone has pointed out but it’s seen like that throughout the whole episode so it seems to be a deliberate choice and not an animation error, granted we know Ben can just take the Ultimatrix on and off whenever he pleases so I suppose it’s possible he just decided to take it off and flip it around that day but I don’t buy that.

Now Omniverse Ben probably has the least amount of contradictions mostly just that his Omnitrix doesn’t work how his Omnitrix works in Omniverse, also this doesn’t necessarily count him out but I don’t think Omniverse Ben should be all that shocked by the Evil Alien X being an alternate Ben given everything he went through in Omniverse.

Now another thing that on it’s own wouldn’t contradict it but along with everything else it just doesn’t add up each of the Bens we see have alterations in design with their original continuity counterparts.

Original Series Ben’s Omnitrix has two activation buttons instead of just one, however this has been seen in the Original Series as well in animation errors so this one can be overlooked.

Alien Force and Ultimate Alien Ben’s Jacket have the two white stripes on both sleeves instead of just one like Original Continuity as well as having the white stripe on the chest of the jacket go all the way around the jacket instead of starting at the shoulder and stopping at the bottom hem of the jacket, also as stated before UA Ben’s Ultimatrix is backwards.

We see two Omniverse Ben’s at separate points and given that one of them dies they’re definitely not the same Ben but both of them also have differences in design with the actual Omniverse Ben, Deceased Ben’s Omnitrix has a different but still similar design to the OV Omnitrix and also his black t-shirt just has a green collar and cuffs and not the green stripe going down the arms connecting the collar to the cuffs like Omniverse Ben’s shirt does, and the OV Ben with a hoodie we see later while having the actual Omniverse Omnitrix it still functions differently as it doesn’t have the faceplate to reveal the Omnitrix core like it does in Omniverse it just pops up with the core instead of sliding to reveal it, also this Ben’s pants don’t have pockets like actual Omniverse Ben’s do.

Also none of the Ben’s seem to have any idea of the true power of Celestialsapiens which aside from 10 Year Old Ben they all should also Omniverse Ben who post Universe V Tennyson got control of Alien X never thought to transform into Alien X to stop the evil one.

Also the alternate Max we meet is very determined to make sure everyone knows that there’s no time travel involved, so those 4 Ben’s cannot be the same Ben just from different points in time, they’re just alternate Ben’s who were born at different points in time relative to their home dimensions.