Glaukos and Polyeidos in the Tomb Sotades; Athens; ca. 460–450 bce.
thank you sotades
ALSO POLYEIDOS IS A CHILD OR VERYYOUNG MAN
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Glaukos and Polyeidos in the Tomb Sotades; Athens; ca. 460–450 bce.
thank you sotades
ALSO POLYEIDOS IS A CHILD OR VERYYOUNG MAN

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wait if im looking at this correctly for Polyidus to be able to help Bellerophon he has to be like... 10 when he meets him, and melampus has to be like already old when he gets his kingdom?
Greek mythology is t known for having a comprehensible timeline lol
Serpent Herbalists
“Tylon or Tylus [of Lydia] was a son of Earth. One day as he was walking on the banks of the Hermus a serpent stung and killed him. His distressed sister Moire had recourse to a giant named Damasen, who attacked and slew the serpent. But the serpent's mate culled a herb, ‘the flower of Zeus,’ in the woods, and bringing it in her mouth put it to the lips of the dead serpent, which immediately revived. In her turn Moire took the hint and restored her brother Tylon to life by touching him with the same plant. A similar incident occurs in many folk-tales. Serpents are often credited with a knowledge of life-giving plants.”**
—J. G. Frazer, Adonis, Attis, Osiris, part 1 (The Golden Bough, vol. V, 1914, p. 186)
**Frazer’s Footnote: “Thus Glaucus, son of Minos, was restored to life by the seer Polyidus, who learned the trick from a serpent. See Apollodorus, Bibliotheca, iii. 3. I. For references to other tales of the same sort see my note on Pausanias, ii. 10. 3 (vol. iii. pp. 65 sq.). The serpent's acquaintance with the tree of life in the garden of Eden perhaps belongs to the same cycle of stories” (p. 186).
Eve taking medical advice from the Serpent in the Garden—"An apple a day keeps the doctor away" (Eva met slang en appel en liggende leeuw, by Hans Sebald Beham [1523]).
(Source: Rijksmuseum, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons)
if i had a nickel for when a seer named their daughter manto I would have 3 nickels which is 15 cents US pacific time
man ngl imma just summarize this myth
Minos and Pasiphae have a son named Glaucus who fell into a jar of honey when he was chasing either a mouse/ ball and drowned in it. horrifying death. Thankfully, a seer, either Polyidus or Asclepius, comes to Crete, Minos holds him hostage, and forces him to try and bring his son back to life. a snake shows up, the seer kills it. another snake brings the other snake back to life via an herb (previously discovered by Medea) minos forces the healer to train Glaucus in divination. at the very end through... mouth spitting. the healer whipes glaucus mind. I'm quite interested in this kid. He's the brother of Ariadne, son of Pasiphae; his relation to Circe and Medea is actually brought up a couple of times. I imagine he's more like his mom, a bit mysterious and magical. its strange, he literally died lmao, he saw the underworld. also damn, dying in honey is horryfing bro got pickled. here are the sources in you want "But Glaucus, while he was yet a child, in chasing a mouse fell into a jar of honey and was drowned. On his disappearance Minos made a great search and consulted diviners as to how he should find him. ///, Polyidus, son of Coeranus, compared the color of the cow to the fruit of the bramble, and being compelled to seek for the child he found him by means of a sort of divination. But Minos declaring that he must recover him alive, he was shut up with the dead body. And while he was in great perplexity, he saw a serpent going towards the corpse. He threw a stone and killed it, fearing to be killed himself if any harm befell the body. But another serpent came, and, seeing the former one dead, departed, and then returned, bringing a herb, and placed it on the whole body of the other; and no sooner was the herb so placed upon it than the dead serpent came to life. Surprised at this sight, Polyidus applied the same herb to the body of Glaucus and raised him from the dead.
Minos had now got back his son, but even so he did not suffer Polyidus to depart to Argos until he had taught Glaucus the art of divination. Polyidus taught him on compulsion, and when he was sailing away he bade Glaucus spit into his mouth. Glaucus did so and forgot the art of divination. Thus much must suffice for my account of the descendants of Europa." this is what Apollodorus says
Hyginus says, " ASCPELIUS, son of Apollo, is said to have restored life either to Glaucus, son of Minos, or to Hippolytus POLYIDUS/// When Glaucus, son of Minos and Pasiphae, was playing ball, he fell into a jar full of honey. In the parents' search, they made inquiry of Apollo about he boy. ///Polyidus, son of Coeranus, -Then Minos said to him: "According to the words of Apollo, you should be able to restore my son to me." While Polyidus was observing omens, he saw an owl sitting over the wine-cellar and putting bees to flight. He interpreted the omen, and brought out the lifeless boy from the jar. Minos said to him: "You have found the body. Now restore life to it." When Polyidus said this was impossible, Minos ordered him to be shut in a tomb with the boy, and a sword placed there. When they had been shut in, a snake suddenly made for the body of the boy, and Polyidus, judging the creature wished to devour the body, suddenly drew the sword and killed it. Another snake, seeking its mate, saw that it was dead, and came and brought a herb, and its touch restored life to the dead snake. Polyidus did the same. When they called out from within, a passerby reported it to Minos, who opened the tomb and found his son safe. He sent Polyidus many gifts back into his country."
He also says in Astronomica about ASCPELIUS this time, "Some have said that by his skill Glaucus, son of Minos, lived again. Because of this, as for a sin, Jove struck and burned his house with a thunderbolt, /// When he was commanded to restore Glaucus and was confined in a secret prison, while meditating on what he should do, staff in hand, a snake is said to have crept onto his staff. Distracted in mind, Aesculapius killed it, striking it again and again with his staff as it tried to flee. Later, it is said, another snake came there, bringing an herb in its mouth, and placed it on its head. When it had done this, both fled from the place. Whereupon Aesculapius, using the same herb, brought Glaucus, too, back to life."
tzetzes himself says "Of Glaucon"; He meant Glaucus, who is the son of Pasiphae and Minos. Apsyrtus is the son of Aeetes, and Circe, Aeetes, and Pasiphae are siblings, so their children are obviously cousins. I told the story backwards (251 31), but I will say it again. Glaucus, whom we mentioned," its pretty much the same as appolodorus after this

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"Athena appeared to him in a dream, standing beside him and saying, “You sleep, O king descended from Aeolus. Come, take this charm”—referring to a golden bridle that would tame the horse. She instructed him to sacrifice a shining (possibly white or prominent) bull to his father, Poseidon the tamer, and then use the bridle. Upon waking, Bellerophon found the bridle beside him and, amazed, brought it to the seer Polyeidos, son of Coiranus, who told him the dream was from the gods and should be obeyed without delay. With Polyeidos’ guidance, Bellerophon sacrificed the bull, dedicated an altar or statue to Athena of Horsemanship, and succeeded in taming Pegasus by gently placing the bridle around his jaw. Though he had sworn never to attempt to bridle Pegasus, the gods made even this oath-bound impossibility come true. Armed in bronze, Bellerophon then trained with Pegasus" -Scholia on Pindar Pythian Odes
wizard bro, also damn the only theory I got for the last part is maybe glaucus's houses traumatized the shit out of him and now he's afraid of magic horses or something
btw later he does give like a really long full exploration of Bellerophon story and its kinda wild cuz for the pegasus taming part this is genuinely like the most in depth version but its literally just what I posted up top but again lmao "Poseidon is called “the Tamer” (Damaïos) in Corinth because of his taming of horses. “Show your father the shining one,” meaning the conspicuous (not necessarily white) bull, large and prominent among the herd. Though Bellerophon was in story the son of Glaucus, son of Sisyphus, in truth he was the son of Poseidon, just as Heracles was the son of Zeus despite Amphitryon. Some take the epithet “shining” (arganta) to mean white, since Homer says to sacrifice “all-black bulls” to earth-shaking Poseidon, but here it means not pale in color but radiant in size and distinguished. While Bellerophon was asleep at Knossos, the dark-aegis-bearing maiden (Athena) seemed to speak at length in the dream, and he arose joyfully and found the bridle ready. Not, as some say, did Athena afterward recount the dream to him—rather, she spoke directly to him in the dream, in poetic fashion. He leapt upright from the bed and eagerly seized the bridle, recognizing it as a divine sign, since what appeared in a dream became visible in waking life. He found it lying there and immediately brought it to the local seer, Polyeidos son of Coiranus, and showed it to him. Polyeidos explained the full meaning and course of the matter: that, as he had advised Bellerophon through prophetic counsel, the youth should sleep at the altar of Athena due to his anxiety about capturing the horse. So he lay beside the altar, and the goddess herself, daughter of Zeus the wielder of the thunderbolt, gave him the golden bridle—called “thought-taming” either because it was splendid in form or because it subdued the wild minds of horses and made them gentle. Even gold itself can tame, being capable of deceit. Polyeidos told him to obey the dream without delay. Once he had sacrificed the mighty, shining bull—called “strong-footed” by the Delphians—to Poseidon, then he should establish an altar or image to the most-horse-skilled Athena. The gods accomplish even things beyond oath, bringing to pass what seemed impossible, and not with difficulty, but smoothly and easily. Not because of perjury, but even what was hopeless despite lawful oath can be achieved by the gods. So Bellerophon, though he had sworn never to yoke Pegasus, did so through Athena’s help. And the brave Bellerophon, eager, took the bridle with zeal and tamed the winged horse Pegasus, gently stretching the bridle around his jaw, calming and soothing him as if with a healing charm. Armed in bronze—either clothed in a bronze breastplate or fully in bronze armor—he trained easily with the horse, as if in play, or even fought skillfully while armored. Together with Pegasus, he once defeated the army of the Amazons from the cold and barren air of the Hyperborean lands, and he overcame the fire-breathing Chimera and slew the warlike Solymoi, a tribe near Lycia and Pamphylia known as Pisidians. Homer too mentions these deeds. About his death the poet falls silent—he withholds it, for Bellerophon fell from Pegasus and became lame. Wishing to ascend to the heavens on Pegasus, he dared lightly, but at Zeus’ will Pegasus was driven mad and cast him off, and he wandered the Aleïan plain alone, eating his heart. Pegasus, meanwhile, returned to Olympus and was taken in by Zeus’ heavenly stables—he was even placed among the stars, as Aratus remembers, where stables and asses are called constellations."
i love Polyidus and athena helping bellerophon like yeah fuck it wizard best friend
Glaucus
One of the sons of the Cretan king Minos by Pasiphae or Crete. When yet a boy, while he was playing at ball, or while pursuing a mouse, he fell into a cask full of honey, and died in it. Minos for a long time searched after his son in vain, and was at length informed by Apollo or the Curetes that the person who should devise the most appropriate comparison between a cow, which could assume three different colours, and any other object, should find the boy and restore him to his father. Minos assembled his soothsayers, but as none of them was able to do what was required, a stranger, Polyidus of Argos, solved the problem by likening the cow to a mulberry, which is at first white, then red, and in the end black. Polyidus, who knew nothing of the oracle, was thus compelled by his own wisdom to restore Glaucus to his father. By his prophetic powers he discovered that Glaucus had not perished in the sea, and being guided by an owl (γλαῦξ) and bees, he found him in the cask of honey. Minos now further demanded the restoration of his son to life. As Polyidus could not accomplish this, Minos, who attributed his refusal to obstinacy, ordered him to be entombed alive with the body of Glaucus. When Polyidus was thus shut up in the vault, he saw a serpent approaching the dead body, and killed the animal. Presently another serpent came, carrying a herb, with which it covered the dead serpent. The dead serpent was thereby restored to life, and when Polyidus covered the body of Glaucus with the same herb, the boy at once rose into life again. Both shouted for assistance from without; and when Minos heard of it, he had the tomb opened. In his delight at having recovered his child, he munificently rewarded Polyidus, and sent him back to his country.
(Comp. Tzetz. ad Lycoph. 811; Palaephat. 27; Apollod. 3.10.3; Schol. ad Eurip. Alcest.; Hygin. P. A. 2.14; Schol. ad Pind. Pyth. 3.96.) The story of the Cretan Glaucus and Polyidus was a favourite subject with the ancient poets and artists; it was not only represented in mimic dances (Lucian, de Saltat. 49), but Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides made it the subject of separate dramatic compositions. (Welcker, Die Griech. Tragoed. vol. i. pp. 62, 416, vol. ii. p. 767, &c.)William Smith.