for those who have payots (or know those who do) if you curl them how does that work? like do you use rollers or a curling iron or something else? how do you make them curled for shabbat?
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for those who have payots (or know those who do) if you curl them how does that work? like do you use rollers or a curling iron or something else? how do you make them curled for shabbat?
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Hey man, hope you're doing well. Would you ever consider showing a pic of how you style your peyos or like a reference photo? I've been working on growing mine out but idk what to do with them.
I don't really style mine, I used to in the beginning with a bit of hair gel just to get the strands to stay together, but now I just like....let them do their thing. Depending on the humidity they vary in curl tightness, so they can look different. When they get too long I trim them so they're about jaw-length. When I have to look more presentable I twist the strands into a uniform curl with water.
I think your styling options really depend on the length of your peyot and your hair texture. Here are some different ways people have their peyot:
This man's peyot are thick, so more hair than is necessary is left uncut. You can see he has wavy hair, and hasn't curled his peyot into a lock, like some Jews do.
This man's hair is curlier, and his peyot are shorter, likely due to him trimming them and the curls being tighter.
This man curled his hair into a tight ringlet curl, likely with the help of gel to keep it together.
This man likely didn't use any gel, and has just twisted the hair strands together into a lock.
This man likely didn't use any gel, but his naturally curly hair allowed him to merely twist his peyot into the tight curl.
A lot of peyot look like this though- these men only left the bare minimum of hair required by halacha to be uncut.
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Crowned Female God from Bronze Age Israel
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I think I have the right hair for payot, but I don't know if I'd like the look on me. Thoughts?
Hi! Hope you’re well. Love your post about trans masculine people and haircuts and peyot. Been growing my hair out and I would like to do something… idk. Kind of modern and inconspicuous-ish but still like. Obviously leaving the peyot for my next haircut. I feel like I need some examples and pictures for inspiration but so far haven’t been able to find any… do you have any recommendations? I’m a transsexual man fwiw (that’s the language I use for myself not trying to impose on anyone else).
So, depending on the community, peyot can vary from long and very conspicuous, to subtle.
Chabad chassidim tend to have shorter peyot than other Chassidic groups, like this:
I've also seen some Modern Orthodox people tuck their peyot short behind their ears.
The only requirement of peyot is to not cut the corners of the head and leave a little length by the ear, but they don't have to be super long if you don't want them to be.
Hope this helped!
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Man I wish there were barbers in my area who knew how to handle peyot. Like going to a barber is such a gender-affirming experience for me, but I always end up having to cut my own hair anywhere around the ears because the barber is so scared to accidentally cut my peyot that they just...... don't touch the hair anywhere around it.
Which of course ruins the whole purpose of getting a haircut if the haircut is unfinished.
Like... I've brought hairbands to my appointments. I've offered to braid my peyot or tie them up so the barber can easily distinguish them from the rest of my hair, but they're just too scared to even try. And I get it. I get it. I'd take that any day than an over-confident barber accidentally cutting my peyot off....but still..... I'd like to be able to get a haircut without having my Judaism or my trans identity be treated as a difficulty.
What I would give to have an LGBTQ friendly barber who's also educated in how to cut around different kinds of peyot......
How does peyot work with balding? I know balding can sometimes leave the sides intact but it also doesnt always.
In that case is it just like well what can ya do or like. Ya get like fake ones if you wa t i guess?
Actually how does one wear a yarmulke while bald is it like. A sticker.
I dont mean disrespect btw idk if it comes across like that, i just like to ask weird questions a lot
If you're bald you just don't have peyot. Again, the commandment is to not shave the sides of the head. For people with hair, it presents as side-locks that are longer than the rest of the head. If that hair never grows or falls out naturally, then it's fine.
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