used to find it impossible to use windows because of the cruft and scummy dark patterns then I chilled out a little bit and wanted to use particular software more than I didn't want to use windows so I switched to it. now I don't feel like I've unchilled out at all but windows has progressively become even worse to the point where it makes me wince to use it again. Fuck it. how bad can the DAW options for linux really be, anyway.
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My text file noting all of this is lovingly named "Music Sync Adventures".
Per my previous post on the subject:
So Iβm an old fart that still uses an mp3 player that transfers files via USB or SD card, and since changing to Linux, updating that thing has been PAINFUL due to the loss of MediaMonkey.
[I need] proper playlist-based file syncing. (That is, you select the playlists to update, and sync both the files and the playlist m3u to the target device, even if the target device uses a different file folder structure from your computer.)
tl;dr
Best programs: MusicBee or MediaMonkey via Wine (plus a folder deletion script)
Runner-up: Rhythmbox
OS: Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
Wine version 11.0
Winetricks version 20260125-next
MusicBee Portable (Wine)
Plus: Deletes files first
Note: requires Windows .NET Framework version 4.7.2 via winetricks (you can use dotnet 48 for the prefix)
Leaves behind empty folders
MediaMonkey Portable (Wine)
Plus: Can estimate size of files to transfer vs. space left on device
Note: must be version 5 or newer (use winetricks to set prefix to Win11/Win10)
Seems slower than MusicBee?
Leaves behind empty folders
Luckily, the script to delete empty folder chains is very simple and fast! You can look up deleteZeroSizeFiles.sh for the bash script (advantage being that it creates a log for debugging), or you can run two lines through terminal:
cd "[path/to/music/folder]"
find . -type d -empty -delete -print
Rhythmbox
Plus: The only case that is an actual Linux program, no fiddling with Wine
Plus: Will delete old files and folders
Plus: Can estimate size of files to transfer
Note: Requires .is_audio_player file (folder depth 2 or more)
Will not update old folder depth (i.e. if you synced at folder depth 1, it will keep syncing to those folders. After updating the .is file, you have to delete the old files/folders before it will create new folder paths at 2 depth)
Deal-breaker: No way to configure folder structure (Artist-Album)
Generates .pls playlist files, not m3u (so requires script to convert, or a convoluted do-si-do of Rhythmbox's import/export playlist plugin)
Foobar2000 OWS component (Wine)
Plus: Creates playlists in windows format
No future updates to this component since 2021
Deal-breaker: Will not delete files there, only the ones previously synced by Foobar. Will delete files/folders if they were added by Foobar
Device drive for tasks/commands must be updated if plugged into different USB port
Potentially no way to dynamically add track number to file names (add it and a delimiter if there is one and don't if there isn't)
Only deletes files after syncing (so will error out if hit size limit before reaching deletion stage)
Amarok, Strawberry
No playlist-based track selection, and definitely not "select multiple playlists and generate new playlists at the target location".
Android-playlist-sync (did not try)
No MTP. Designed for syncing to Android phones (unclear if works on devices) Rsync based, see issue below.
Dealbreaker: Sync script only works with single playlist
Did not run, so not sure of resulting folder structure
Rhythmbox-Playlist-To-MediaPlayer (did not try)
Removes ALL files for fresh rsync
In general: rsync-based scripts will not work, because they cannot cleanly delete old files in a fast way, or create new file structure based on metadata
Does not have what I am looking for (some might have Amarok/Strawberry level file transfer capability)
Tauon
deadbeef
lollypop
beets
Dead programs
Atunes
Nightingale
Kevin Mehall Rhythmbox Playlist Synchronizer
can musicbee please implement a feature where you can download ur spotify playlist bc if i have to download and recurate all of my playlists by hand im going to lose it
Are you wondering what the differences are between Spotify and MusicBee? Well, they're very goddamn different.
First off, Spotify is a streaming service, this means that you do not need to download any music to be able to listen to it (excluding local files, which are pretty self-explanatory). On the other hand, MusicBee requires that you download and add all the music yourself! This also means that you get to handle the metadata of the music, so you can fix those pesky "Deluxe Edition"'s, "Deluxe Version"'s (looking at you, XXX) without needing to ask for a miracle.
Spotify can be used for free, albeit it has frequent ads every couple of songs and you can't utilize most of its features. It does have a Premium service, which offers a couple benefits such as no ads, downloads, listening parties, amongst other stuff. On the other hand, MusicBee is fully free. As long as you can get a hold of the music, then you don't have to pay a single other penny for it. Fully free! And hell, paired with Soulseek or an account on the private tracker "RED", you won't have to pay a penny to ANYBODY for your music! Aside from your ISP
Hope this helps in your decision-making!
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I canceled my Spotify subscription and I'm now using MusicBee & my normal phone music app and trying to download like 8 years (bruh how luch money did I give those assholes) of songs and it's a little tedious but also fun
Fun fact! You can wifi sync your phone library with your computer's with MusicBee!
anyone know how to copy/move a music library off an android to file explorer/musicbee
idk if im missing something but dragging and dropping is not working and neither is trying to sync my musicbee to my laptop from my phone
this library is from my desktops musicbee and atm i cannot physically access it and i am not a fan of the idea of redownloading all of my music individually but if i have to i will
Got my living room computer, which is hooked up to my stereo, set up to be remotely controlled with my phone now, so that's cool.
I think it only works on the local network although I don't really need to be playing music when i'm not here anyway. But it's cool that I don't have to be in my bedroom to change tracks. I remotely access my computer in the living room from my bedroom computer because I don't have a working monitor for that room.