I take you Montparnasse x thenardier and rase you la relation polygame forme l'enfer. @caffeinatedjim
Based pritty literally on there fandom wiki dicriptions. Did not have as much time to draw this so might come back and render it fully. Even if I don't i am definitely drawing them again because the caricter designs are fun
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As a kind of finally to this series I would like to look at how if it is true, the boys from 1817 and the patron minette being the same would efect the narrative and themes in les miserables. Also here is where I should address counter points and holes in my theory be cause I believe it is only just. I believe my self a just man(mistake number one i am sure) never the les I will proceed.
Four: there the only two groups of four in the book. Witch is quite unusual. Because most other araments are eather repeated or at lest brought back in some way. Like the hole barricade situation being present in 93 and the end of les miserables. So simply by making two groups of such simulator composition invites comparison because, there is very rarely in the novel anything that comes up only once. That is part of what i like about the book everything gits a conclusion. With is another thing hugo spends time to let us know what happens in the end to the majority of his caricters exept for thet one guy who hit fantine with a snow ball. So letting such established characters as the boys off 1817 to dissappear is a little out of style for the book.
The parallel argument: this has some ground. In that one translatetion I found sights Montparnasse as twenty but couldn't find a second sorce on that. Even if thay are not the very same people they are parallels, victor hugo likes repeating characters with slight changes in order to show, the how much circumstance can change our perception of a caricter. Like enjolras and javert. Both believe in justice decriing there method of achieving it as absolutely right and just. One is treated as a hero because he is hot and a revolutionary and the other is not. We rediderates the idea of complacency as the central sin of the book. One with is at lest paralleled across the 1817 storyline and the patron minette's. Seemingly saying that sutch groups of young men whos only ambitions are pleasure will come again and again to up hold the social organization. With would be an interesting idea so. I can exept being rong because thinking of them as parallels is equally interesting.
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The worst criminal of the bunch. The one who ruins his lovers. The absencety, thenardiers greatest allie. As tholomyes is one of the most focused on 1817 boy and Montparnasse gits a simulator, amount of focus, if slightly more,as the rest of a the patron minette there is clearly more details that can be proven about tholomyes. But they are eerily simulator.
Dynamic: though not directly the leader of eather group, blachevelle or babet leading both the robbery and the 1817 party, he is one of the loudest. Felix is dispationate, believing in joy over passion and poetry, saying, "Excess of zeal ruins peach-trees and apricot-trees." And Montparnasse is the same "genteel, effeminate, graceful, robust, sluggish, ferocious." A distinctly un poetic kind of person. Caring only for the Rude pleasures of life. He demonstrate the love and caring in a meaningful way seem to beyond his ability in both version. Felix playing with fantine feeling from distant vantage and Montparnasse murdering and raping his way through the female population of paris.
Personally: Montparnasse chief desire.", the height of elegance is idleness; idleness in a poor man means crime" and witch is the life thet felix leaves. He wishs to be part of high society and to have do nothing he must do or strive to. Witch goes along with felix's ideas of mondratiom and elegance. Reading through felix's speech, the idea of style and fashion comes up multiple time. Witch alines perfectly with Montparnasse desires and goals when he says "No haste, gentlemen. Let us mingle majesty with the feast." He likes women and feasting in fine clothes and drink. This being his obsession he would kill to have it.
Cossette: I all ready talked about, this alot in part three, but the gust of it is that pursuing valjean into at least three robbery attempts is not very profitable so what would make sence most would be for him to have a personal motive to persew this actions. That being trying to reclaim his daughter.
Crime: I will talk here about crime in to meanings one in the sense of the law and the other in the sence off sin in the eyes of the narrative. First off the purpose of Montparnasse's crimes is "The cause of all this ... crimes was the desire to be well-dressed" with is active through murder, rape and robbery. All of witch are crimes in the law sence. The themes of the book fallow thet standing for something and acting upon it is as virtue and vice as abandoning this in favor of obiance and sloth. Both Montparnasse and felix tholomyes are guilty of standing for nothing and sloth. Pulling down others for there place in the social grace. Neather stands for anything alowing desire to fill there days.
Escaping: commitment is something for both to escape, felixtholomyes says "I, Tholomyes, I am all illusion; but she does not even hear me" eludeing to the fact of his planed escape form his responsibility for getting fantine pregnant. Montparnasse is always running form the responsibility for his actions,understandably because of the looming possibility of execution. Nether stands up and exepts responsibility for any of there actions.
Society: thay are conformists. Both trying to conform to. Social norms of the middle to upper middle class. Doing all the typical couple things in 1817 and dressing as typical of the days fashion as possible in 1829. Dispight the crime and abandoning of fantine both still fit in with poplar frunch society. Lounging at the poplar café, content with the kings rule, flirting. The methods of achieving this state of normalized tranquility is unusual but to all appearances both are normal, citizens. Not rebellious in the slightest.
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