#message log

prioritizingpurples hey. i know that you probably don't agree with me or anything i say but i just want you to know that if you ever need help getting away from your friends or husband i'm here for you, okay? i'm not making any accusations, innocent explanations are always theoretically possible, and it's fine if you can't admit things even to yourself, but... you've been making some very worrying posts, and i want you to know that if you ever do feel unsafe then i don't care what our differences are, i will do everything in my power to make sure you're safe and happy

a-terror-of-shadow-and-flame my most recent posts have been about how much I love my husband and friends how is that worrying

prioritizingpurples ...talking about how much physically stronger they are than you, talking about how he owns a gun and you don't, talking about how he beats you up? like, i get that all of those things on their own are totally fine, but all of it in combination just... puts me on guard. just. be careful, i guess? and if you don't see why you have to be careful in this situation, i hope my last message put things a bit in perspective. I'm glad you love them, but love isn't always enough, and i wanted you to know that just in case it is worst case scenario, you have people who will help you

a-terror-of-shadow-and-flame ok. it's sweet that you care, really but like, the people in my life who hurt me most? were not physically stronger than me and did not own guns

prioritizingpurples i definitely don't mean to imply that you can ONLY be hurt if the people involved are physically stronger or who can threaten your life, and i'm very sorry if i did! it's more that--it can be a lot harder to escape people who can validly threaten you, whether physically or otherwise, and so i guess i just wanted to let you know that it's always possible to escape and that even if you can't on your own, you can always get help.

a-terror-of-shadow-and-flame I am not in a situation I need to escape from but thank you for caring, it's really sweet that you care (in character this is not sent: even if you do think all my loved ones are awful people who need to be escaped from)

staringtowardthestars

Pardon me, but I was wondering if your most recent post was directed at me?

skyspoutingviolets

...it wasn't *directed* at you, but yes, it's about you.

"i've seen too many green radicals plot to commit serious pollution violations" right, because personal experience. it's no wonder you had to get a blue to bribe your judge.

i don't even know what to say, honestly. you clearly have some serious mental health problems -- i doubt there's anything i can say to make you understand how despicable your actions were.

staringtowardthestars

Just because I've seen something occur doesn't necessarily imply that I've participated in it.

(Also, she didn't bribe my judge.)

Also, in case it wasn't clear from the post, I am against people doing what you are suggesting that I did. (I completely understand if your suspicions mean that you no longer wish to interact with me.)

skyspoutingviolets

of course seeing something happen doesn't imply you were the one who did it. but in this case, it's obvious that you were.

and yes, that post does say you're against people doing this. but only because they'll get caught! you said *nothing at all* about why it's inherently wrong to spread pollution

you said, in as many words, "pollution is unimportant." which. just. go to hell.

staringtowardthestars

That was intended as a statement about their goals, not a statement about objective reality. The sort of person who would do that presumably thinks, at least to some extent, that pollution is unimportant.

Also, if someone already thinks pollution is unimportant, telling them that an action is bad because it will spread pollution is highly unlikely to be persuasive. In contrast, pointing out the potential harm if they are caught might be.

skyspoutingviolets

well i suppose, but it's still -- i mean, it's like saying "hey, if you believe it's good to assault people, don't do that, because you'll get arrested." it's hard to imagine how sane and decent person could write a long post on the subject while failing to mention that, in addition to being illegal, it's *wrong*.

staringtowardthestars

Perhaps we disagree on means of effective persuasion. If someone thinks it's good to assault people, telling them that it's actually wrong to assault people will probably not be convincing, and it might make them less likely to take other parts of the argument seriously.

skyspoutingviolets

nobody who seriously believed it's immoral to commit assault (or pollution violations, or the like) would write a series of posts about it in which the only reason they give against it is that it's illegal and you'll get caught.

i don't know why i'm continuing this conversation, it's pointless for me to try to reason with you

staringtowardthestars

I entirely understand if thinking about this topic is distressing you! If you don't want to talk to me anymore, I'll respect that, and I won't interact with your posts.

skyspoutingviolets

well, okay, that would be appreciated

staringtowardthestars

Understood.

skyspoutingviolets

skyspoutingviolets: hello! so, i realize this is none of my business, sorry -- but after your post about your professor's wife saving your life, i was curious and i found this article from six years ago which sounds like it might be about you [link]

is that you?

(if so, i am so sorry that happened to you. and i totally respect your not wanting to discuss this publicly on tumblr. it sounds like a really scary and traumatic experience, and people on tumblr can be real jerks)

staringtowardthestars: ...Please don't tell anyone on here.

skyspoutingviolets: i won't!

staringtowardthestars: Thank you.

Also, yes, it was extremely scary.

skyspoutingviolets: i imagine! you were basically kidnapped by a red, that's like, straight out of a horror film! :(

staringtowadthestars: Did you have a particular reason for bringing this up, or were you just curious?

skyspoutingviolets: ...well, i feel a bit bad for asking about this, since i know it was an awful experience and you probably don't want to think about it

but i'm a bit curious about how the blue was involved? there's no mention of how she helped you 

staringtowardthestars: There were (and still are) many people who found it so improbable that she would have actually kidnapped me that they were convinced I had played some role. She helped to ensure that the judge who heard my case was likely to be sympathetic. 

skyspoutingviolets: ah okay. jeez, why did they think it was improbable?

staringtowardthestars: Most random red four-year-olds don't kidnap graduate students for no reason, and if they were going to do something like that one would expect them to have taken me back to the red district, which was not where we were found. Also, I was relatively liberal on red issues, which made people think it more likely that I would associate with her in public.

The police investigators should have been able to use my computer history to determine whether I had coordinated with her, but the investigator who was supposed to be in charge of it broke it so badly that no information could be recovered. 

skyspoutingviolets: how on amenta does someone delete your entire internet history?? 

that's--sorry, hold on

um sorry if this sounds rude but i just saw your last post and uh

i don't know how to phrase this? i don't want to accuse you of anything

but that tag "i thought i'd been careful" -- were you talking about this? like, me figuring out who you are and what happened? 

staringtowardthestars: Yes -- sorry, I wasn't trying to make you feel bad. I know you weren't trying to frighten me, but it's nice to have somewhere where that's not a constant piece of context pertaining to all my actions, and if you can figure it out then someone with less concern for my privacy can as well.

skyspoutingviolets: okay, yeah...i guess 

staringtowardthestars: What did you think the post meant?

skyspoutingviolets: well -- it occurred to me that maybe there was another reason you didn't want this to come up

(other than, not wanting crazy tumblr people to find out and be nasty about it) 

staringtowardthestars: What are you suggesting? 

skyspoutingviolets: ...uh, sorry, i'm not suggesting anything

staringtowardthestars: ...That may have come out more combative than I intended. You should of course feel free to ask any questions you wish.

skyspoutingviolets: yeah, i don't want to sound offensive -- i just wondered that maybe what happened isn't exactly what you're saying happened, and so you really don't want anyone to know about it -- but well

i don't want to sound like i'm accusing you of anything 

staringtowardthestars: I am worried that people on this website will believe, among other possibilities, that I had an intentional role in the incident. Given that there are already people in real life who believe that, I don't think this is an unreasonable concern. 

skyspoutingviolets: makes sense, i guess

why do you think the red did it? 

staringtowardthestars: Because four-year-olds make bad decisions and are highly susceptible to pressure from others. If one of her friends had suggested it, even as a joke, she probably would have complied. All the evidence suggested that she wasn't especially intelligent, even given the typical red IQ.

Of course, I could be wrong about her reasons. 

skyspoutingviolets: i see

my roommate's calling me to dinner now, so i'm gonna go. sorry for alarming you by bringing this up! 

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Thunderstorm-in-the-sky: Hello!

staringtowardthestars

Hello!

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So... I don't want to worry you. But how private are you about your personal life?

staringtowardthestars

I try not to give away too much information. Recent evidence suggests I may not be entirely succeeding.

conversations-across-the-rainbow

Yeah, about that... one side effect of belonging to the smallest caste and a caste that rarely marries out is that sometimes it's easy to stumble upon information starting from "a theologian that was saved by a blue married to a green" :/

I was talking about tumblr to a few acquaintances and the story about a green kidnapped by a red came out

staringtowardthestars

Really? What did your acquaintances say about this person?

conversations-across-the-rainbow

That there was a weird case involving a green and a red interacting outside the red district that was weird and suspicious, in no small part because there was some intervention by a blue during the investigation.

I asked her to elaborate, but she didn't remember that much about the case, but assumed it was an example of "desperate green ideas"

staringtowardthestars

Did you have a question you wanted to ask me about it?

conversations-across-the-rainbow

Let me put this way: I think that if it was me, this would be the kind of thing I'd wish to know so I can adjust accordingly. Even if the "me" in question is "a green not associated with this other green" because it sounds relevant for reputation purposes.

staringtowardthestars

Yes, that would seem the prudent course of action. I suspect that I have been revealing far too much on my blog of late.

conversations-across-the-rainbow

That was years ago, but I'm still facepalming over revealing relationship details on tumblr. It would be so absurdly easy to track me down with just what I gave. sigh.

I hope this helped, and that I didn't give you a small heart attack for one reason or another.

staringtowardthestars

Can I assume that you won't be discussing your suspicions about me on your Tumblr account?

conversations-across-the-rainbow

You can absolutely assume so! I wouldn't even call them suspicions. I'm honestly just raising concerns about things you might want to know. I don't blame you for not thrusting a blue for his words, but I do try my best to not be the kind of blue that throws their weight around to crush people.

staringtowardthestars

Thank you. I appreciate it.

And I know that there are trustworthy blue people.

(For instance, my professor's wife.)

conversations-across-the-rainbow

Of course. And while I won't do much in terms of anything illegal (my grandfather loathes blue corruption like the plague) if you have problem with some Javak and Eleseo blues let me know (because my grandfather really loathes blue corruption like the plague).

conversations-across-the-rainbow

I will. Thank you.

Incidentally, have you tried using a search engine to find out more about this incident? I'm curious how difficult it would be.

conversations-across-the-rainbow

I confess it slipped my mind, but I could try?

Okay, I tried, it came up with this [link] from six years ago.(edited)

staringtowardthestars

Thank you. Not too difficult to find information, then.

conversations-across-the-rainbow

:/

staringtowardthestars

I'll be careful in the future. I have no way to know how the next person to put together the pieces will feel about my internet privacy, or, for that matter, the circumstances of the incident.

conversations-across-the-rainbow

Can't be too careful. I hope everything turns out well for you!

staringtowardthestars

Thank you.

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